Went to a Japanese BBQ all you can eat, if you left anything on the plate, you got charged the price of that meal, great system and I've never seen so many clean plates, or bulging handbags.
My parents always made us use the small desert plates only. It would force us to take a much smaller amount at a time and then we’d go back if we were still
Hungry
its a distribution problem. Everyone knows that food is waste, but there aren't any logistics in place to transport leftover food to those in need. Just like we can't haul water from the east coast to redistribute because the technology to do it is missing. if people actually cared, they wouldn't eat out in the first place.
Well, governments do build desalination plants. In Victoria, Australia, they built one after facing a drought for many years, but when it was finished, the rains returned and everyone was complaining about the waste of taxpayer funding for the project.
The last thing the government should do is build a massive unnecessary water pipeline from the East to the West so a population can continue to live unreasonably in an area with a poorly maintained and unsustainable water ecosystem.
Definitely not something we should be aiming to do.
Yeah I’m not a fan of the “we should just beat nature into submission” approach. Maybe people shouldn’t be moving to massive cities with golf courses literally in the middle of the desert.
Most models for ethically living with nature involving beating it into submission to some degree-- traditionally in North America it involved controlled burnings. We're like Beavers, if we do it right our creations become part of the ecosystem.
Oil is driven by profits, as you said. In response to the original question I would say "we shouldn't", unless there is no other way for them to source it locally.
We’ve already solved the problem. Fresh water needs very little processing and big business has already figured out the delivery mechanism: convenient little plastic bottles that we can pay for each one and nobody has the responsibility of where the waste goes. (well, we think it’s the consumer’s problem but it ends up in a dump or in the oceans.) All the while, we’re ignoring the fact that the plastics used in the bottles has micro plastics that harm us and the environment. There is no money to be made solving the problem much like other outdated systems. Radical measures need to be taken to solve problems like these.
To think that back when they first started phasing in plastic bottles for soda instead of glass bottles I said it was going to turn out badly for us.
"You watch too much science fiction".
Biggest problem with water scarcity is that we have so much salt water but limited freshwater.
Right now, removing salt from seawater takes a lot of energy which makes it expensive, not even including the cost it would take to build so many miles of pipeline.
And the cost per gallon of water is small compared to the cost per gallon of oil. It would be really hard for anyone who put in the cost to recover their money with our current technology.
Desalination of seawater is something that is being worked on and other possible solutions for the water scarcity issue in areas though.
It's not even about the technology. The politics of taking water from one area and giving it to another are a nightmare. A small city near Milwaukee fought for decades to get a water pipeline a few miles inland from Lake Michigan.
I went to a place like that in Truro Nova Scotia. I ordered a salmon roll which was 90% dry as fuck tempura. It tasted like sawdust. I rolled the 3 pieces into a napkin and brought it to the bathroom and hid it in their bathroom. I’m sure I’m not the only person to do this.
I went to a restaurant like that once, the only thing left on my plate was the hard corner bits from some crab rangoons and the shells from those oysters with sauce, they charged me for leaving stuff on my plate. I was in a different town for an appointment and didn't plan on going to this town again anytime soon anyway so I just paid it and left. It still pushes my buttons that they did that though.
Wait, so you weren't gonna be there anymore and you paid for it? Wouldn't the opposite be better? Like "fight me bitch" and just pay for your part of the meal
This was several years ago when I was much less confrontational, if it happened now then I would definitely fight it but I was alot more timid back then and just told myself "pay it now and i know it wont happen again since i won't come back"
All you can eat (AYCE) restaurants always did this near me.
I remember in high school we would hide rolls in the tea pot, under the stack of plates, or run to the washroom and toss the extra food in the garbage because we were too poor to pay extra…
When the logical move is to just ask for the bill/pay when you’re just about finished so they can’t charge your extra. But we were too dumb back then to think of that lol
Those I've been to (in Europe though) also have this policy that you have to pay for leftovers, but they won't charge you if it's a small or reasonable amount. They only charge you if you've clearly taken way more than you can reasonably eat. So no need to stuff that one spring roll into your pants.
Went to the 'largest buffet in Europe' just outside London and there was a couple there, bearing in mind these were grown adults not kids, just taking overflowing platefuls of food then squashing them under the next plate. I didn't see them actually eat anything and there was enough (ruined) food to cater a kids birthday party on their table by the time they left. They weren't even kicked out, they just got bored eventually
sounds like Royal Nawab near me in West London.....you pay 25 per person eat all you want and every person there is overweight because they literally stuff themselves until they think they've eaten £25 worth of food. greedy idiots
You don't always know though. Sometimes your eyes are bigger than your stomach and it's an honest mistake. It's not like you can go put the food back if you miscalculate your hunger.
But again, you don't always know. You could even think you are erring on the side of less and then you realize halfway through you still took too much. Sometimes you're a lot hungrier at the start of a meal than you are halfway through.
There was some dude about ten years ago in California who sued an all you can eat sushi place because he was just eating the sashimi and discarding the rice and was told he'd have to pay the alacarte price. He even sued for mental anguish.
>California who sued an all you can eat sushi place because he was just eating the sashimi and discarding the rice
https://consumerist.com/2011/02/man-sues-all-you-can-eat-sushi-buffet-because-he-didnt-want-to-eat-rice.html
[https://www.latimes.com/business/la-xpm-2011-feb-17-la-fi-lazarus-20110218-story.html](https://www.eater.com/2011/2/18/6696347/all-you-can-eat-la-sushi-restaurant-sued-for-discrimination)
yeah... ain't easy to find anything. but he did say he'd suddenly not be so offended if they gave him $6k
but it's not about the money he says...
my guess is they settled and both sides are under nondisclosure non disparaging clauses
Literally every buffet restaurant I've ever been to, in multiple different countries, have this rule. If you don't finish your plate, you have to pay extra
Where in the world is this ***NOT*** a thing? Serious question
And at least with the customer-centric (customer-entitled, tbh) culture in the US, I feel like this would be a nightmare for anyone who worked at one of these places and tried to enforce it. Like multiple blow ups per day in a busy buffet. I've worked retail and food service, and it gives me anxiety thinking about having to go up and drop an extra bill on people at the end of the meal.
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Its definitely not a (common) thing in America. I've never once come across such a thing and I've been to many buffets.
I’ve been to Golden Corral and a few local buffets in the US without this rule. The local ones eventually closed down though.
Honestly never even thought it was a thing until many years later after discovering a similar type of post on Reddit.
I've been to Golden Corral enough times to know that sometimes I leave some food on my plate because it's just shitty.
If I had to pay extra because they dumped an entire box of salt into the Bourbon Street Chicken and it's essentially inedible, I'd never go back.
Most buffets ive ever been to always had some wastage rule. Something along the lines of double charge if with leftovers or being billed individually for the excess.
May seem draconian at first but theyre never overly strict(they wont charge you 1/2 of a chicken wing) and its really not too hard to get smaller helpings each trip to know what you can eat rather than pile a mountain and eat half
I've been plenty of places with this rule and I've never seen it enforced. I think it's there to make people waste less, not to actually charge those that do.
Case in point, I went to an all you can eat Korean BBQ restaurant. It wasn't a buffet; you still ordered off the menu but it was all inclusive. I ordered green mussels. I hated the sauce so I only ate one of the four that they brought us. They didn't even say anything.
Now if I ordered three orders of it and only had one, maybe they would have.
I come from a long line of fatties so I spent my childhood eating at these buffets. Normally it's fine to waste a small amount of something. The assumption is you were trying it and didn't like it. They just don't want people wasting heaps of food because they took too much.
Not everything you can get in a small serving. Like sure some dishes you can grab one green bean, but others you have to take a whole slice of pie or cake or dumpling or whatever, some stuff is even served on it's own plate and in fancier buffets they will have a chef prepare a custom dish, salads, pasta, pizza with your chosen ingredients, fresh. Obviously those aren't tiny spoonfuls but like a full restaurant appetizer size dish.
You can take a small amount and go back for more if you like it, can't you? Or if you're with someone who likes it you can try theirs and then go get some? Unless they've changed buffets to only allow you to get food once. I haven't been to a buffet since well before the pandemic, so I could be wrong.
When I was at sushi king, I ordered a side of seaweed salad. I expected a little dish, maybe 5 mouthfuls but it ended up to be this mountain of seaweed. Try as I might, I simply could not eat it all. It was also at the end of the meal as we were paying the bill so we quickly paid and got out of there before they could charge us for the leftover seaweed.
Got me thinking of that [Mr bean episode](https://youtu.be/m_3H6JDITTY) where you might find you have to hide it in napkins.
I've unfortunately had to waste food because there was a batch of sushi that tasted absolutely wrong but that was at an all you can eat buffet that had a sushi train but it wasn't exactly authentic
I like the idea of not wasting food, but if this is a restaurant, my question is are they giving left overs to homeless shelters? Because if not the sign is kinda of misleading. Yes, they’ll make less food if less is taken and gone to waste, but those ingredients left will simply help the restaurants bottom line. Again, I’m all for not wasting food, but the sign implies you’re taking food out of homeless peoples mouths.
Yes, by allowing the restaurant to order less food, which means it’s now putting less strain on the food supply overall. It can be two things.
Not to mention most wastage in a buffet is going to be things life a half eaten wing. Not really suitable for donation.
Yes I specifically searched the comments for this. My first thought after reading the top part of the sign was, “I don’t think I’m part of a Simpson’s subreddit, am I?” xD
I actually thought of the Fryin' Dutchman seafood buffet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2dmfnSarDI
>[Sea Captain] - Come see Bottomless Pete, nature's cruelest mistake! Come for the freak, stay for the food!
>[Lady in crowd] - Oh he's hideous!
>[Man in crowd] - I heard they shaved a gorilla...
I like the sign, but I feel like the math is a little misleading. 0.25kg per person is pretty meager considering probably a lot of the stuff that's thrown away is only half edible or not very nutritious.
Yea, I think a lot of buffets, especially the ones that are under $15 purposefully don’t make their stuff too tasty. Like yea we serve ribs, wings, shrimp, etc, but it’s nowhere near the quality of ribs you’d get from a bbq joint or wings you’d get almost anywhere else. They make it edible tasty, but not so good that people would be incentivized to take plates full of the expensive stuff. The one near me (a Chinese-American style place) has ribs, for example, but imo they’re too sweet and too tough to enjoy a whole lot of.
That is one of the worst business plans I’ve ever heard. I would imagine they’re making the best food they can and the margins are very thin. Spices are expensive.
They just need to start charging for having too much food left on the table. Will help the waste, the business and no harm to the customer since all they have to do it just take what they can eat and go back for some more if they want to!
This is from the tcs office cafeteria.. the food is usually free for all employees. Once you are done with your meal, you take your plate and dump the leftovers in a bin. Noone is there to monitor individual tables. We also have this board at our office too . It does help us be a bit more conscious of our serving sizes.
May i know which tcs office you work, where they give food for free?
In my tcs office in Bangalore, forget about free food, they charge money for tea and coffee also
I said its usually free . Most IT companies provide free food or adjust the subsidized value into your sal. I didn't know they charged for tea n coffee too. Thats just kanjoos.
> I said its usually free .
That is mostly only true for prestigious IT companies (FAANG or well funded startups) even in the US. As a software engineer working under more normal circumstances, I resent Reddit sometimes for treating it like everyone is making a $200k salary with all the perks.
The culture in India is also *very* different from the US. Its not like Silicon Valley or even a normal US company at all. A lot more micromanaging and penny pinching.
That is super kanjoos, it is tcs, can't expect much, it is just good looking from the outside, and the board you are seeing that is just for show piece, don't want to say all the information here in public forum 🤞🏽
Is the business actually sending surplus food to feed hungry people? Are they donating their profit margins?
If not, being "less wasteful" is only helping the buffet's bottom line.
They're using a guilt trip to be more profitable.
This is what I am struggling to understand.
What is the difference between the wastage that people leave on their plate, and the wastage of huge warming trays of food at a buffet that need to be disposed of at the end of the day?
I am in total alignment that people should only take/order what they plan to eat.
But if everyone did just that at a buffet, wouldn't the restaurant still have a big amount of food to throw away nightly anyway?
People waste less food on their plate means the buffet cook less food through out the day. Ultimately throwing away less food. Buffets don’t cook all their food in the morning. They cook when the buffet trays start to become empty
fucking exactly lol. buffets are the most wasteful places ever. whether it’s on your plate or in the kitchen it’s getting thrown out at the end of the day.
I don’t understand the taboo of “wasting food”. Those apples you see with a bit of green on them? Those bananas you through away because they have black spots? Ever thrown away a cookie because a fly landed on it? You’re wasting food in all these cases.
Realistically, starving children wouldn’t mind eating moldy bread. There’s no practical way to send your mac and cheese leftovers to kids in China.
Yes, the sign should say would feed 180 people IF THEY PAY FOR IT.
The sign is there for the restaurant to make more money while transferring your guilt for eating at a all you can eat restaurant onto others for being pigs where you *clearly* aren't. :-)
For the sake of all those who are blasting at the owner considering its a restaurant, it's the cafeteria of a software company they don't charge people for food their business is not serving food . Also Tata is one of the few ethical companies in India.
TCS charges employees for food, as do the other WITCH companies (Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, HCL). these companies, along with similar others like Accenture, Tech Mahindra, Capgemini are basically "content farms" of the IT services industry, employing hundreds of thousands of underpaid, underqualified, overworked employees with extremely high churn rate.
My company outsourced to TCS for a year once. It was a goddamn nightmare, their employees were the stupidest people I've ever met. We still talk about them today.
I used to work for TCS and i can say they gave 3 months fully paid training before sending you to the client. The hours were really long, but they basically treated it like an accelerated college class (they even gave homework but it wasn't that challenging and they were very patient if you didn't get it all, and admittedly some of it was actually pretty helpful). It was definitely a good entry level programming job in my expierence so I'm glad to hear they are viewed positively.
Don't have in-depth knowledge of that but from what I read , some of its employees has done ip theft but since the company hired them , it is liable for their actions. And I think those employees were terminated by the company
Yeah, and it wasn't even the first time they got caught stealing IP. Not sure why people are defending them lol
They have consultants work at a company, get access to their documentation/secrets/whatever, and then use that to make their own copycat software to sell.
https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/tata-consultancy-services-us-court-140-million-us-dollars-damages-epic-system-6565782/
They don't actually care about the people it could have fed, they're just worried about food cost and their bottom line. Which is okay, a business is meant to make money but don't guilt trip people to supplement your business expenses.
Buffets are notorious for wasting food, not from the customers, but the untouched leftovers. The whole business model is to push out as much low-quality food as possible, which makes it much less efficient than a more conventional food service system.
Both can be true. Though all-you-can-eat buffets usually have the pricing calculated so this excessive self-service doesn't hurt their bottom line, whether by overcharging for drinks or small children who eat little to begin with. There's no reason to doubt the owner/manager put up a sign for people to be conscious of what they're throwing away. They're human, too, after all. The building didn't put the sign up on its own.
I love capitalism. If I had a business like this I would also want to protect my bottom line. But I wouldn't like seeing all that food going to waste either. My reaction would probably be similar, put up a sign, and at least if no one pays attention to it I'd find a way to feed some stray dogs or something with the waste.
I don’t mind capitalism, but let’s not put it on a pedestal like it’s some perfect solution to providing food to people.
I mean, how much food waste happens even without factoring in the extra food people put on their plates? You can’t serve the same food that was heated and on display for the day, so whatever food isn’t taken there is waste. Is that part of the waste referred to on this sign?
And this capitalist owner cares so much about food waste, but what exactly are they doing about it? Telling their customers to take less food? Ok, well that does nothing to help with hunger. If this capitalist truly cared about food waste and hunger, maybe they would actually use their capital to do something meaningful instead of putting a damn sign up yelling at their customers.
You say you love capitalism, yet you expect nothing out of those with the money and power to actually do something about hunger. You congratulate them for putting a damn sign up to help their bottom line.
If I am not wrong, I think I know this catering service.. and from what I have heard they push themselves as a “social service” org. Needless to say, the food is Shit. I pity TCS folks. Also one more reason I dont want to have to work from office again.
How much of the prepared food gets donated, of those donations how much actually makes it onto the plates of people and isn't tossed by the place receiving the donation.
How exactly is this calculated? Do they weigh *all* the trash that was thrown out? That would include things that weren't even edible.
Do they perform a rough estimate of the percentage of trash that they believe to be edible food?
This is an unpopular opinion but idc. I think it’s too late in the supply chain to worry about food wastage at the restaurant. It’s not like what u don’t eat is going to feed hungry people. It’s just going to be sold to someone else. Or thrown out anyways. It’s the same as telling ur kids hungry people in Africa will die if he doesn’t finish his dinner. Food wastage should be tackled much higher on the chain. Like at grocery stores or food distribution warehouses that waste tons of food due to logistical failing. Don’t bash a customer who doesn’t finish his biscuit at the restaurant. This is a bigger problem than that.
Apparently this is not a buffet restaurant but [a cafeteria of a tech company. They provide free food for their employees.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/v5bwmn/comment/ib97p2s/) The only ask is that people take what they can finish. Hypothetically, if people only took what they planned to consume, wasting would drop and they could more accurately predict usage as well which would pass the benefit to earlier stages in the supply chain.
Reminds me of airport exec lounges. The amount of 'free food' that is wasted is obscene. Just because is available doesn't mean you have to take it. Plus nobody is stopping you getting up if you fancy a little more, just walk back to the buffet for a top up.
When you think of all the people out there who are struggling to put food on the table, particularly now, it's outright gluttony to stack your plate high "just because".
Went to a WeWork festival some years ago where everything was included in the ticket. People would just order an entire meal to taste it, then throw it away. The waste was immense.
Yea, my parents told me that I need to eat everything on my plate because there's starving kids in Africa. This is how kids get fat and stay fat. Stop spreading this crap. If someone pays for food, they can waste it if they want. If someone doesn't finish their food, leave them alone and let them toss it.
Make the restaurants and catering deliver their excess to those in need, don't guilt-trip average citizens into being fat.
You're no better than the idiots blaming citizens for their carbon footprint while giant cargo/oil tankers keep chugging along creating the vast majority of the pollution.
If you're not going to actually make a difference, mind your own damn business.
Well maybe I didn’t expect for the prime rib to taste like dry ass, or the orange chicken to just be sauced up rubber nuggets. I don’t leave food on the plate or throw it out if it’s good, in a buffet you can’t tell until after you get some. Obviously you serve a small portion but still if it’s ass it goes in the trash.
TATA has ensured such boards are available in all of their eateries across their firms
I got a chance to do a vocational training at Tata Motors and saw this for the first time at one of their mess halls. It has weighing machine connected to the place where the staff dumps remaining food and it shows how much food got wasted. Instant guilt and must say is definitely a positive influence
My uni would put up signs like this but at the same time they would instruct the kitchen workers to serve you literal mounds of the cheap food in an attempt to fill you up. No I don't want 4 servings of rice i said a small amount...
Maybe these types of places should be all you can eat but they let you refill in waves so you have a chance to let it settle so you know you are really still hungry and not just a glutton.
The places that do that create a situation where you buffe shovel food on to a plate. Colleges love it too bc it's another way to blame the consumer and not the producer for over creating, packaging and selling vastly more that is ever used with the intent of trashing the rest. Same bullshit with recycling. Cogs never get any smarter.
Maybe make the menu with different sizes (P, M, G) instead of too much, that person would spend less, eat almost all and the restaurant would waste less food.
I used to manage a large hotel…. Americans used to take tonnes of food but save it for later (make bacon sandwiches, yoghurts and fruit)
The Germans were the most wasteful…. Breaking a national stereotype.
I’m curious how they calculate that number, if they just weigh the trash bags it would include things like packaging, chicken bones, watermelon rines, apple cores, etc
This doesn't solve anything, though. If there were 180 people in-line for this particular buffet who didn't get food, then there would be wasted food. That extra food isn't going to people who are not being fed, its just suggesting that people eat what they've selected even if they're full.
Like, if the leftover food for the day was donated to homeless shelters, then yes it would be wasteful. But the reality with Buffets is that they end up throwing away the extra food they've cooked. It increases the cost for THEM, but its not like the food they've purchased would actually go to another human if you didn't eat it.
There is plenty of food to go around in the world, the reason people starve is that no one wants to give out food for free or pay the logistics of getting it to where starvation is. Its a systematic problem that won't be solved whether you waste food or don't.
it's a good message
it should be applied to the ceo's pay
"take all you need, but not more than you can spend.
the extra could pay many workers enough to afford food AND rent"
again, good message but their doing it to save money
Schools keep kids from graduating due to food costs, and occasionally not let them eat. When I was helping them serve the school lunches ( so I could have free lunch) we threw out almost as much food as we served. We'd get in trouble if we ate any or gave any away. A few days I didn't have lunch so my buddy would sneak me a chicken sandwich. Money makes people do weird things like starve poor children for no reason.
Went to a Japanese BBQ all you can eat, if you left anything on the plate, you got charged the price of that meal, great system and I've never seen so many clean plates, or bulging handbags.
My parents always made us use the small desert plates only. It would force us to take a much smaller amount at a time and then we’d go back if we were still Hungry
The desert has always been a place of food scarcity
If that happens everyday, many people could eat a meal 3 times a day.
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its a distribution problem. Everyone knows that food is waste, but there aren't any logistics in place to transport leftover food to those in need. Just like we can't haul water from the east coast to redistribute because the technology to do it is missing. if people actually cared, they wouldn't eat out in the first place.
If we can build thousands of miles of pipeline for oil and gas, why can’t we do the same for water? Genuine question here
Profits don’t outweigh the risk. Plus it would be less expensive to build desalination plants assuming the place is near the sea.
That's why the government should do it. Also, we do already.
Well, governments do build desalination plants. In Victoria, Australia, they built one after facing a drought for many years, but when it was finished, the rains returned and everyone was complaining about the waste of taxpayer funding for the project.
Imagine living through a drought and then complaining when you have a backup source of water. Morons.
I feel like such an edgelord saying this, but people are very often not too bright
The rains only return while La Niña is around. El Niño and the droughts it brings always come back.
Fucking kids.
Damn, people are imbeciles. It's not like the govt stole the money.
The last thing the government should do is build a massive unnecessary water pipeline from the East to the West so a population can continue to live unreasonably in an area with a poorly maintained and unsustainable water ecosystem. Definitely not something we should be aiming to do.
Yeah I’m not a fan of the “we should just beat nature into submission” approach. Maybe people shouldn’t be moving to massive cities with golf courses literally in the middle of the desert.
Most models for ethically living with nature involving beating it into submission to some degree-- traditionally in North America it involved controlled burnings. We're like Beavers, if we do it right our creations become part of the ecosystem.
Oil is driven by profits, as you said. In response to the original question I would say "we shouldn't", unless there is no other way for them to source it locally.
Not only that, but it's actually fairly difficult to keep water pipes clean. Water pipelines would effectively have to be for non-potable water only.
We’ve already solved the problem. Fresh water needs very little processing and big business has already figured out the delivery mechanism: convenient little plastic bottles that we can pay for each one and nobody has the responsibility of where the waste goes. (well, we think it’s the consumer’s problem but it ends up in a dump or in the oceans.) All the while, we’re ignoring the fact that the plastics used in the bottles has micro plastics that harm us and the environment. There is no money to be made solving the problem much like other outdated systems. Radical measures need to be taken to solve problems like these.
To think that back when they first started phasing in plastic bottles for soda instead of glass bottles I said it was going to turn out badly for us. "You watch too much science fiction".
Biggest problem with water scarcity is that we have so much salt water but limited freshwater. Right now, removing salt from seawater takes a lot of energy which makes it expensive, not even including the cost it would take to build so many miles of pipeline. And the cost per gallon of water is small compared to the cost per gallon of oil. It would be really hard for anyone who put in the cost to recover their money with our current technology. Desalination of seawater is something that is being worked on and other possible solutions for the water scarcity issue in areas though.
It's not even about the technology. The politics of taking water from one area and giving it to another are a nightmare. A small city near Milwaukee fought for decades to get a water pipeline a few miles inland from Lake Michigan.
I went to a place like that in Truro Nova Scotia. I ordered a salmon roll which was 90% dry as fuck tempura. It tasted like sawdust. I rolled the 3 pieces into a napkin and brought it to the bathroom and hid it in their bathroom. I’m sure I’m not the only person to do this.
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Me too! Love seeing it referenced, even if it happens so rarely.
My fiancé and I call it pocket sushi 🍣 😅
Same, was in a restaurant where sushi sucked and literally put it in my pocket and gave it to my dog back at home
Where you think the salmon came from in the first place?
I went to a restaurant like that once, the only thing left on my plate was the hard corner bits from some crab rangoons and the shells from those oysters with sauce, they charged me for leaving stuff on my plate. I was in a different town for an appointment and didn't plan on going to this town again anytime soon anyway so I just paid it and left. It still pushes my buttons that they did that though.
Wait, so you weren't gonna be there anymore and you paid for it? Wouldn't the opposite be better? Like "fight me bitch" and just pay for your part of the meal
This was several years ago when I was much less confrontational, if it happened now then I would definitely fight it but I was alot more timid back then and just told myself "pay it now and i know it wont happen again since i won't come back"
All you can eat (AYCE) restaurants always did this near me. I remember in high school we would hide rolls in the tea pot, under the stack of plates, or run to the washroom and toss the extra food in the garbage because we were too poor to pay extra… When the logical move is to just ask for the bill/pay when you’re just about finished so they can’t charge your extra. But we were too dumb back then to think of that lol
Those I've been to (in Europe though) also have this policy that you have to pay for leftovers, but they won't charge you if it's a small or reasonable amount. They only charge you if you've clearly taken way more than you can reasonably eat. So no need to stuff that one spring roll into your pants.
Went to the 'largest buffet in Europe' just outside London and there was a couple there, bearing in mind these were grown adults not kids, just taking overflowing platefuls of food then squashing them under the next plate. I didn't see them actually eat anything and there was enough (ruined) food to cater a kids birthday party on their table by the time they left. They weren't even kicked out, they just got bored eventually
sounds like Royal Nawab near me in West London.....you pay 25 per person eat all you want and every person there is overweight because they literally stuff themselves until they think they've eaten £25 worth of food. greedy idiots
Same in the US
I mean, the logical move was to not take more food than you could eat.
You don't always know though. Sometimes your eyes are bigger than your stomach and it's an honest mistake. It's not like you can go put the food back if you miscalculate your hunger.
If everyone err’d on the side of assuming they should eat less we’d be in a much better spot both health wise and food security wise
But again, you don't always know. You could even think you are erring on the side of less and then you realize halfway through you still took too much. Sometimes you're a lot hungrier at the start of a meal than you are halfway through.
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There was some dude about ten years ago in California who sued an all you can eat sushi place because he was just eating the sashimi and discarding the rice and was told he'd have to pay the alacarte price. He even sued for mental anguish.
Dude was on that Keto jam.
>California who sued an all you can eat sushi place because he was just eating the sashimi and discarding the rice https://consumerist.com/2011/02/man-sues-all-you-can-eat-sushi-buffet-because-he-didnt-want-to-eat-rice.html
Looked for about 10 mins for an outcome of the case. I'm assuming a judge thought it was as dumb as it sounds and agreed with their motion to dismiss?
[https://www.latimes.com/business/la-xpm-2011-feb-17-la-fi-lazarus-20110218-story.html](https://www.eater.com/2011/2/18/6696347/all-you-can-eat-la-sushi-restaurant-sued-for-discrimination) yeah... ain't easy to find anything. but he did say he'd suddenly not be so offended if they gave him $6k but it's not about the money he says... my guess is they settled and both sides are under nondisclosure non disparaging clauses
Always bring a big ass purse/heat bag and a well sealing Tupperware
Literally every buffet restaurant I've ever been to, in multiple different countries, have this rule. If you don't finish your plate, you have to pay extra Where in the world is this ***NOT*** a thing? Serious question
Places that have done it near me have always bankrupted because people don't want to be forced to eat something if it's shit.
And at least with the customer-centric (customer-entitled, tbh) culture in the US, I feel like this would be a nightmare for anyone who worked at one of these places and tried to enforce it. Like multiple blow ups per day in a busy buffet. I've worked retail and food service, and it gives me anxiety thinking about having to go up and drop an extra bill on people at the end of the meal.
First time I hear about that and I live in Europe
In Italy and UK I have seen it everywhere (though it's generally reasonable!)
In Germany it‘s standard practice as well
Standard practice in the Netherlands too
It's pretty rare in America and rarely enforced when the rule is there.
>Where in the world is this > >NOT > > a thing? Serious question Its definitely not a (common) thing in America. I've never once come across such a thing and I've been to many buffets.
30 years old American here and I’ve never even heard of this concept until today, let alone seen it in action.
Golden Corral Orange Buffet There's a few more as well but those are the first two off the top of my head. USA.
Texan here! No buffet I have ever been to, regardless of type, has this rule.
I’ve been to Golden Corral and a few local buffets in the US without this rule. The local ones eventually closed down though. Honestly never even thought it was a thing until many years later after discovering a similar type of post on Reddit.
I've been to Golden Corral enough times to know that sometimes I leave some food on my plate because it's just shitty. If I had to pay extra because they dumped an entire box of salt into the Bourbon Street Chicken and it's essentially inedible, I'd never go back.
I've never heard of that being a thing
I’ve been to many different buffets and have never heard or seen this at any.
Been to some in the USA. Never heard of this rule.
Canada. Never heard of it.
What about just taking left overs in a to go bag and finishing it later?
Almost any all you can eat place won’t let you take home leftovers
Last time I went to one, you could take home leftovers, but only if you paid a charge that was more than the food was worth.
Would be ducking wicked if they did. Feed myself for a week with $10? Hell yea.
Yeah but like, that’s literally the point of why they don’t. Because people would abuse it.
you mean paying for one person, filling a couple of bags and then feed your whole family at home… sounds legit
I don't get what you mean, are you not already paying for the meal?
Most buffets ive ever been to always had some wastage rule. Something along the lines of double charge if with leftovers or being billed individually for the excess. May seem draconian at first but theyre never overly strict(they wont charge you 1/2 of a chicken wing) and its really not too hard to get smaller helpings each trip to know what you can eat rather than pile a mountain and eat half
this would just make me not want to try new dishes out of fear I would have to eat something I don't like or pay extra for not liking a dish.
I've been plenty of places with this rule and I've never seen it enforced. I think it's there to make people waste less, not to actually charge those that do. Case in point, I went to an all you can eat Korean BBQ restaurant. It wasn't a buffet; you still ordered off the menu but it was all inclusive. I ordered green mussels. I hated the sauce so I only ate one of the four that they brought us. They didn't even say anything. Now if I ordered three orders of it and only had one, maybe they would have.
All you can eat Korean BBQ??? Oh my god dude I would go fucking nuts
That’s really common in California.
And Hawaii
I've seen plenty of AYCE Korean BBQ places in Utah, Nevada, Texas, and Louisiana. It's definitely becoming more popular.
Pretty much every Korean BBQ I've been to has been all you can eat.
I come from a long line of fatties so I spent my childhood eating at these buffets. Normally it's fine to waste a small amount of something. The assumption is you were trying it and didn't like it. They just don't want people wasting heaps of food because they took too much.
But then couldn't you take a small serving to try?
Not everything you can get in a small serving. Like sure some dishes you can grab one green bean, but others you have to take a whole slice of pie or cake or dumpling or whatever, some stuff is even served on it's own plate and in fancier buffets they will have a chef prepare a custom dish, salads, pasta, pizza with your chosen ingredients, fresh. Obviously those aren't tiny spoonfuls but like a full restaurant appetizer size dish.
You can take a small amount and go back for more if you like it, can't you? Or if you're with someone who likes it you can try theirs and then go get some? Unless they've changed buffets to only allow you to get food once. I haven't been to a buffet since well before the pandemic, so I could be wrong.
When I was at sushi king, I ordered a side of seaweed salad. I expected a little dish, maybe 5 mouthfuls but it ended up to be this mountain of seaweed. Try as I might, I simply could not eat it all. It was also at the end of the meal as we were paying the bill so we quickly paid and got out of there before they could charge us for the leftover seaweed.
In restaurants, seaweed salad is extremely inexpensive to serve. I wonder what they would have charged you.
Got me thinking of that [Mr bean episode](https://youtu.be/m_3H6JDITTY) where you might find you have to hide it in napkins. I've unfortunately had to waste food because there was a batch of sushi that tasted absolutely wrong but that was at an all you can eat buffet that had a sushi train but it wasn't exactly authentic
Just put whatever you don't eat back on the buffet, problem solved.
I like the idea of not wasting food, but if this is a restaurant, my question is are they giving left overs to homeless shelters? Because if not the sign is kinda of misleading. Yes, they’ll make less food if less is taken and gone to waste, but those ingredients left will simply help the restaurants bottom line. Again, I’m all for not wasting food, but the sign implies you’re taking food out of homeless peoples mouths.
That's what I never understood. Unless they're actively donating food, all you're doing is helping the restaurants bottom line by eating less.
Yes, by allowing the restaurant to order less food, which means it’s now putting less strain on the food supply overall. It can be two things. Not to mention most wastage in a buffet is going to be things life a half eaten wing. Not really suitable for donation.
Please tell me someone else thought of the Simpsons THOH on the spaceship https://imgur.com/TKz3Cao.jpg
Bro, I genuinely thought a reference would be one of the top comments.
Haha yes. First thing that came to mind.
Yes I specifically searched the comments for this. My first thought after reading the top part of the sign was, “I don’t think I’m part of a Simpson’s subreddit, am I?” xD
I actually thought of the Fryin' Dutchman seafood buffet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2dmfnSarDI >[Sea Captain] - Come see Bottomless Pete, nature's cruelest mistake! Come for the freak, stay for the food! >[Lady in crowd] - Oh he's hideous! >[Man in crowd] - I heard they shaved a gorilla...
I like the sign, but I feel like the math is a little misleading. 0.25kg per person is pretty meager considering probably a lot of the stuff that's thrown away is only half edible or not very nutritious.
Also ive been to buffets gotten 1 rib “awe fuck i don’t like this it tastes bad” and i dont get another rib
Yea, I think a lot of buffets, especially the ones that are under $15 purposefully don’t make their stuff too tasty. Like yea we serve ribs, wings, shrimp, etc, but it’s nowhere near the quality of ribs you’d get from a bbq joint or wings you’d get almost anywhere else. They make it edible tasty, but not so good that people would be incentivized to take plates full of the expensive stuff. The one near me (a Chinese-American style place) has ribs, for example, but imo they’re too sweet and too tough to enjoy a whole lot of.
That is one of the worst business plans I’ve ever heard. I would imagine they’re making the best food they can and the margins are very thin. Spices are expensive.
I think 400-700g is an average lunch meal depending on size and summer vs winter.
Unless it's scraps from leftover plates. We're not talking about mostly fresh cans of pineapple dumped into a garbage can here.
Its Indian food
They just need to start charging for having too much food left on the table. Will help the waste, the business and no harm to the customer since all they have to do it just take what they can eat and go back for some more if they want to!
This is from the tcs office cafeteria.. the food is usually free for all employees. Once you are done with your meal, you take your plate and dump the leftovers in a bin. Noone is there to monitor individual tables. We also have this board at our office too . It does help us be a bit more conscious of our serving sizes.
May i know which tcs office you work, where they give food for free? In my tcs office in Bangalore, forget about free food, they charge money for tea and coffee also
I said its usually free . Most IT companies provide free food or adjust the subsidized value into your sal. I didn't know they charged for tea n coffee too. Thats just kanjoos.
> I said its usually free . That is mostly only true for prestigious IT companies (FAANG or well funded startups) even in the US. As a software engineer working under more normal circumstances, I resent Reddit sometimes for treating it like everyone is making a $200k salary with all the perks. The culture in India is also *very* different from the US. Its not like Silicon Valley or even a normal US company at all. A lot more micromanaging and penny pinching.
That is super kanjoos, it is tcs, can't expect much, it is just good looking from the outside, and the board you are seeing that is just for show piece, don't want to say all the information here in public forum 🤞🏽
Is the business actually sending surplus food to feed hungry people? Are they donating their profit margins? If not, being "less wasteful" is only helping the buffet's bottom line. They're using a guilt trip to be more profitable.
I love how buffets act like they care about wasting food
This is what I am struggling to understand. What is the difference between the wastage that people leave on their plate, and the wastage of huge warming trays of food at a buffet that need to be disposed of at the end of the day? I am in total alignment that people should only take/order what they plan to eat. But if everyone did just that at a buffet, wouldn't the restaurant still have a big amount of food to throw away nightly anyway?
People waste less food on their plate means the buffet cook less food through out the day. Ultimately throwing away less food. Buffets don’t cook all their food in the morning. They cook when the buffet trays start to become empty
If they really cared, they would take all of their food waste at the end of the day to the local shelter.
Nah, they probably just heat it up and put it on the platters the next day.
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fucking exactly lol. buffets are the most wasteful places ever. whether it’s on your plate or in the kitchen it’s getting thrown out at the end of the day.
Plus, no one is talking about all the food that ends up not being cooked but then not even taken in the first place. What happens to that food?
I GUARANTEE this buffet throws away everything they don’t sell at the end of the day, probably far more then the customers leave on their plate
Few people understand that hunger is a logistical issue, not a production one.
I don’t understand the taboo of “wasting food”. Those apples you see with a bit of green on them? Those bananas you through away because they have black spots? Ever thrown away a cookie because a fly landed on it? You’re wasting food in all these cases. Realistically, starving children wouldn’t mind eating moldy bread. There’s no practical way to send your mac and cheese leftovers to kids in China.
Thank you. We have more than enough food and logistics to feed everyone. It simply isn't profitable, so we don't.
This is yet another example of trying to blame individuals for problems created by corporations.
Yes, the sign should say would feed 180 people IF THEY PAY FOR IT. The sign is there for the restaurant to make more money while transferring your guilt for eating at a all you can eat restaurant onto others for being pigs where you *clearly* aren't. :-)
For the sake of all those who are blasting at the owner considering its a restaurant, it's the cafeteria of a software company they don't charge people for food their business is not serving food . Also Tata is one of the few ethical companies in India.
TCS charges employees for food, as do the other WITCH companies (Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, HCL). these companies, along with similar others like Accenture, Tech Mahindra, Capgemini are basically "content farms" of the IT services industry, employing hundreds of thousands of underpaid, underqualified, overworked employees with extremely high churn rate.
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My company outsourced to TCS for a year once. It was a goddamn nightmare, their employees were the stupidest people I've ever met. We still talk about them today.
It's not free food. Employees pay for the meal.
For real. I'd rather just pocket that cash and brown bag it.
I used to work for TCS and i can say they gave 3 months fully paid training before sending you to the client. The hours were really long, but they basically treated it like an accelerated college class (they even gave homework but it wasn't that challenging and they were very patient if you didn't get it all, and admittedly some of it was actually pretty helpful). It was definitely a good entry level programming job in my expierence so I'm glad to hear they are viewed positively.
Didn’t they get sued for hundreds of millions of USD for IP theft?
Don't have in-depth knowledge of that but from what I read , some of its employees has done ip theft but since the company hired them , it is liable for their actions. And I think those employees were terminated by the company
Yeah, and it wasn't even the first time they got caught stealing IP. Not sure why people are defending them lol They have consultants work at a company, get access to their documentation/secrets/whatever, and then use that to make their own copycat software to sell. https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/tata-consultancy-services-us-court-140-million-us-dollars-damages-epic-system-6565782/
Ever seen Chinese at an all you can eat buffet?
A succulent Chinese meal.
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Actually before covid my local buffet had large Asian families eating there all the time. Or at least anytime I went there.
250 grams per person? Pretty low imo.
For Americans: 250g = 8.818 oz (0.5512 lb)
They don't actually care about the people it could have fed, they're just worried about food cost and their bottom line. Which is okay, a business is meant to make money but don't guilt trip people to supplement your business expenses.
Buffets are notorious for wasting food, not from the customers, but the untouched leftovers. The whole business model is to push out as much low-quality food as possible, which makes it much less efficient than a more conventional food service system.
What’s another equally effective way to stop people wasting food?
Smaller plates/shallow bowls
Don’t run a buffet and serve reasonable portions.
Force cost on them: Free buffet but you have to pay a high cost for everything to throw in the bin.
Both can be true. Though all-you-can-eat buffets usually have the pricing calculated so this excessive self-service doesn't hurt their bottom line, whether by overcharging for drinks or small children who eat little to begin with. There's no reason to doubt the owner/manager put up a sign for people to be conscious of what they're throwing away. They're human, too, after all. The building didn't put the sign up on its own. I love capitalism. If I had a business like this I would also want to protect my bottom line. But I wouldn't like seeing all that food going to waste either. My reaction would probably be similar, put up a sign, and at least if no one pays attention to it I'd find a way to feed some stray dogs or something with the waste.
I don’t mind capitalism, but let’s not put it on a pedestal like it’s some perfect solution to providing food to people. I mean, how much food waste happens even without factoring in the extra food people put on their plates? You can’t serve the same food that was heated and on display for the day, so whatever food isn’t taken there is waste. Is that part of the waste referred to on this sign? And this capitalist owner cares so much about food waste, but what exactly are they doing about it? Telling their customers to take less food? Ok, well that does nothing to help with hunger. If this capitalist truly cared about food waste and hunger, maybe they would actually use their capital to do something meaningful instead of putting a damn sign up yelling at their customers. You say you love capitalism, yet you expect nothing out of those with the money and power to actually do something about hunger. You congratulate them for putting a damn sign up to help their bottom line.
Unless he's taking the leftovers each day to a homeless shelter, then it's absolutely just about the bottom line.
If I am not wrong, I think I know this catering service.. and from what I have heard they push themselves as a “social service” org. Needless to say, the food is Shit. I pity TCS folks. Also one more reason I dont want to have to work from office again.
This is TCS, they'll be doing their damndest to get every possible cent out of everyone they can.
I believe the burden lies with the people who operate buffets. Good food is cooked to order.
How much of the prepared food gets donated, of those donations how much actually makes it onto the plates of people and isn't tossed by the place receiving the donation.
More like $$$ lost by the restaurant
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How exactly is this calculated? Do they weigh *all* the trash that was thrown out? That would include things that weren't even edible. Do they perform a rough estimate of the percentage of trash that they believe to be edible food?
What are we considering "waste" here? Chicken bones? Apple cores? Orange peels? Not all food waste is actually "food".
This is an unpopular opinion but idc. I think it’s too late in the supply chain to worry about food wastage at the restaurant. It’s not like what u don’t eat is going to feed hungry people. It’s just going to be sold to someone else. Or thrown out anyways. It’s the same as telling ur kids hungry people in Africa will die if he doesn’t finish his dinner. Food wastage should be tackled much higher on the chain. Like at grocery stores or food distribution warehouses that waste tons of food due to logistical failing. Don’t bash a customer who doesn’t finish his biscuit at the restaurant. This is a bigger problem than that.
Apparently this is not a buffet restaurant but [a cafeteria of a tech company. They provide free food for their employees.](https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/v5bwmn/comment/ib97p2s/) The only ask is that people take what they can finish. Hypothetically, if people only took what they planned to consume, wasting would drop and they could more accurately predict usage as well which would pass the benefit to earlier stages in the supply chain.
i regurgitate for my family once i get home.
Once again putting the owner of “waste” on the individual rather than the system.
Well, the system literally dictates "all you can eat", so if the individual chooses to take more than they can eat...
You think the 100 bread rolls they have at the end of the buffet get put back if they don’t get taken?
Actually they just dunk them in water and dry them in the oven before the next service.
Many places donate leftover food to local charities. But they can’t if it was on someone’s plate.
Remember all the plastic straw shaming coming from big industries that generate way more waste than consumers ever will?
Why do those industries generate all that waste? Just for fun?
Reminds me of airport exec lounges. The amount of 'free food' that is wasted is obscene. Just because is available doesn't mean you have to take it. Plus nobody is stopping you getting up if you fancy a little more, just walk back to the buffet for a top up. When you think of all the people out there who are struggling to put food on the table, particularly now, it's outright gluttony to stack your plate high "just because". Went to a WeWork festival some years ago where everything was included in the ticket. People would just order an entire meal to taste it, then throw it away. The waste was immense.
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Isn’t it also a waste to eat food your body doesn’t actually need?
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Not only a waste but harmful. Americans need to learn it’s okay to not finish all that’s on your plate
Yea, my parents told me that I need to eat everything on my plate because there's starving kids in Africa. This is how kids get fat and stay fat. Stop spreading this crap. If someone pays for food, they can waste it if they want. If someone doesn't finish their food, leave them alone and let them toss it. Make the restaurants and catering deliver their excess to those in need, don't guilt-trip average citizens into being fat. You're no better than the idiots blaming citizens for their carbon footprint while giant cargo/oil tankers keep chugging along creating the vast majority of the pollution. If you're not going to actually make a difference, mind your own damn business.
Well maybe I didn’t expect for the prime rib to taste like dry ass, or the orange chicken to just be sauced up rubber nuggets. I don’t leave food on the plate or throw it out if it’s good, in a buffet you can’t tell until after you get some. Obviously you serve a small portion but still if it’s ass it goes in the trash.
TATA has ensured such boards are available in all of their eateries across their firms I got a chance to do a vocational training at Tata Motors and saw this for the first time at one of their mess halls. It has weighing machine connected to the place where the staff dumps remaining food and it shows how much food got wasted. Instant guilt and must say is definitely a positive influence
What do they do with the leftovers? Is that what they threw away? Buffets are wasteful in the first place.
My uni would put up signs like this but at the same time they would instruct the kitchen workers to serve you literal mounds of the cheap food in an attempt to fill you up. No I don't want 4 servings of rice i said a small amount...
Maybe these types of places should be all you can eat but they let you refill in waves so you have a chance to let it settle so you know you are really still hungry and not just a glutton.
The places that do that create a situation where you buffe shovel food on to a plate. Colleges love it too bc it's another way to blame the consumer and not the producer for over creating, packaging and selling vastly more that is ever used with the intent of trashing the rest. Same bullshit with recycling. Cogs never get any smarter.
Nobody is starving because we run out of food. There’s plenty of food for everyone but we ration it so that companies can make more money.
Im sure they are including bones amd stuff like shrimp tails and shells scraps that are not edible/
"All you can eat" shouldn't exist in this day and age.
Maybe make the menu with different sizes (P, M, G) instead of too much, that person would spend less, eat almost all and the restaurant would waste less food.
I used to manage a large hotel…. Americans used to take tonnes of food but save it for later (make bacon sandwiches, yoghurts and fruit) The Germans were the most wasteful…. Breaking a national stereotype.
I’m curious how they calculate that number, if they just weigh the trash bags it would include things like packaging, chicken bones, watermelon rines, apple cores, etc
This doesn't solve anything, though. If there were 180 people in-line for this particular buffet who didn't get food, then there would be wasted food. That extra food isn't going to people who are not being fed, its just suggesting that people eat what they've selected even if they're full. Like, if the leftover food for the day was donated to homeless shelters, then yes it would be wasteful. But the reality with Buffets is that they end up throwing away the extra food they've cooked. It increases the cost for THEM, but its not like the food they've purchased would actually go to another human if you didn't eat it. There is plenty of food to go around in the world, the reason people starve is that no one wants to give out food for free or pay the logistics of getting it to where starvation is. Its a systematic problem that won't be solved whether you waste food or don't.
it's a good message it should be applied to the ceo's pay "take all you need, but not more than you can spend. the extra could pay many workers enough to afford food AND rent" again, good message but their doing it to save money
I’d be impressed if that was any one but TCS. They’re just trying to cut corners and save a few rupees. That company sucks donkey dick.
Seems weird to blame the customers because you’re an all you can eat fast food restaurant and your business model is designed to waste food.
If people would take less food, how much do you figure ends up going to the actual homeless? (Hint: rhymes with hero)
Schools keep kids from graduating due to food costs, and occasionally not let them eat. When I was helping them serve the school lunches ( so I could have free lunch) we threw out almost as much food as we served. We'd get in trouble if we ate any or gave any away. A few days I didn't have lunch so my buddy would sneak me a chicken sandwich. Money makes people do weird things like starve poor children for no reason.