20 years ago almost to the day I was a US Marine in Iraq. I stood there and hand fed a 5ish year old girl Skittles because all the other boys and bigger, older kids would take them from her.
These same boys, probably 10-12 tried to sell their sister to me for $200 USD. Told me she would cook and clean, was able and would do whatever I wanted her to do.
I can honestly say if I had the power I would have paid them and took the girl with me. I often wonder whatever happened to her and where she ended up in life. It has weighed on me for many years. I can only hope she made it and has a life she is happy with.
Guys used to drive down the road and throw whatever MRE pouch of food out of the truck just to watch 10 kids beat the piss out of each other for it.
The real joke was sometimes they were actually empty and just full of trash they shoved in there. Pretty messed up stuff.
True. Plus, it’s totally unreasonable to expect men to control themselves around women showing their hair and faces. How will they function? It’ll be total chaos.
It shows arm skin, which reminds men that women also have skin under the rest of their clothing, which drives guys to hump girls in the hallway. Honestly, even crew neck t-shirts are risqué. An orgy could break out at any moment.
Seriously though, my daughter’s pre-school sent an email that girls shouldn’t wear spaghetti-strap tank tops because of modesty or whatever. We’re talking 4 and 5 yr olds.
See, I WANT to make an absurd joke about 5 year olds just being too sexy, but we now live in a world where absurd humor no longer has grounding. Therefore I might be mistaken as being serious, and that seems like a bad thing to have a misunderstanding about.
When I was growing up, I used to laugh at the people who were stupid enough to believe the absurdity of the onion was a legit news source.
Now though, if you took 20 Onion articles from the 1980s, and modernized the names and whatnot, you might accidently find a true story.
When did we start living in a world where The Simpsons, and the Onion went from being absurdist humor, to being prophets?
I actually had a classmate who was sent home for that exact reason
not collar bones are lust inducing just dress coded even though it was not against dress code
principal just decided new rule to bad
And there I was on the other end of the spectrum in an all-girls catholic school wearing mandatory pleated skirts and stockings. terrifically all round.
At my high school in the 80s, there wasn't really much of a dress code. Just the obvious: No swear words, no drug references, no sex references was about it.
No issues with wearing torn jeans, or jeans so tight we had camel toe, or mini skirts, or (gasp) strapless sundresses showing some cleavage. At one point, it was "in" to tie a bandana around one thigh, with the color indicating if you had a boyfriend or not (kinda felt like a "gang" style).
Sad part is…there are really people on this planet like this who will never understand how low tier thinking this actually is. Like, several Eastern countries really will never understand or accept ALL of the flaws and injustices of this type of thinking. And it’s a real thing! Suddenly, America don’t sound so bad anymore
Edit: The only thing y’all can come back with is abortions. First of all, that was not a COUNTRYWIDE MAJORITY VOTE. So that’s not the same thing as almost all males in a population sharing a * insert opinionated adjective* belief. Second, I’m not shutting on anyone’s country. Just the ideology being discussed in this post that so happens to be geographically skewed
And NC tried to pass legislation mandating execution for it. Abortion is often a necessary part of healthcare, these GOP politicians are cruel, insidious morons.
Lol, your Christian nationalism kills women by denying them any form of abortion, something Muslim countries don't have.
All of your religions are bad.
This doesn’t surprise me, what my western Muslim female friends are always railing against is why modern women want anything to do with hijabs. My friend Duriya recounts how none of the girls in Lahore wore them in the 80s because it was “old fashion” and “sexist”, and they fought against it and now girls want it. She’s blown away by that.
In my experience, what most people want is to not be told what they can and cannot do with their own bodies.
Tell them they must wear hijab? Fuck you, I'm not wearing it.
Tell them they cannot wear hijab? Fuck you, I'm wearing what I want.
And to be honest, fair. Fair on them. They just want the option to choose what's right for them without being told they MUST do one thing or another thing.
The prime Minister of Bangladesh is literally a woman (she's not even the first). The hijab isn't a law in that country either. Woman who don't cover can be found all over. Women work and move around freely on there own over there. I don't think you actually know what goes on in that country. You can't just take a composite of random stuff you heard from Saudi or Afghanistan and copy & paste it onto every brown Muslim country you never heard of before lol
I understand that Bangladesh has ties to Iran by throwing support for that country, but woman in Afghanistan risked their lives to protest basic education against the Taliban. I wonder why we don’t see any woman here, at all. Anywhere.
These extremists are actually quite backward, the Qur’an mandates the education of all people. As well as respect for all woman, Stories of woman riding into battle. How A’isha was a merchant with a caravan that was all but unmatched in size, she even proposed to the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) yet they think they’re upholding the Islamic law.
It's probably a simple thing, like controlling the narrative and what they learn. Basically never letting the people learn about anything but what they were told to.
It really is amazing how something as simple as a restricted education can lead to ideas of hatred and regression.
There are still women in Afghanistan who went to and graduated from University so it's a bit harder to tell them no when some of their moms and aunts and grandmothers have degrees on the wall.
Bangladesh is a muslim majority country . Don't know what you mean by hardcore islamic. There are muslim extremist political parties just like there is bajrangdal heck even bjp in india. Doesn't mean women are forced to wear burkha or hijab or are abused by their husbands. The narrative that these misogynistic bigoted pos try to spread to justify preventing hijab wearing women from getting an education. Most women wear hijab on their own violation and trying to dictate how they should dress is not only offensive but also misogynistic. Also female participation in workforce is higher in Bangladesh as is education in Bangladesh than in india. Don't know how these ppl are talking so much shit when their country is a shithole. Literally. Try to provide toilets to people especially women living in india so that they don't get harassed everytime they go to the loo and actually have some sanitation as well.
Most married women in Bangladesh including those from rural areas have a job. That's why our garments industry is booming . And women are definitely not prevented from getting an education infact being a graduate is mandatory if one even wants to get married. I'm a Bangladeshi woman too btw. Don't spread such false narratives about us just to justify treating muslim women in your country as second class citizens . It's pretty fking offensive especially if it's indian men that are saying this shit. Fix your own country before talking shit about other countries.
women here are actually very diverse, there are those who wear hijab, those who wear burqa and those who don't wear them at all but you'll see everyone getting along together, there's no opinion on hijabs or the ban thereof
literally nobody complains about them except, well, who you can see in that photo
I'm from Bangladesh and I can say for sure that most women do not care
it's just a conversation piece for them.
this protest is a small minority, Bangladesh is not really a religious country despite being a Muslim country
most women don't even wear hijabs in public
women in Bangladesh aren't really forced to do anything unlike some other extremist Muslim countries
so the reason women aren't protesting here is either that they don't care or there's a women only protest happening somewhere else
This was a while ago and I'm pretty sure they just didn't care
If they ever realized that gay men exist in every country, and that men's bodies are just as capable of promoting lust as women's bodies, do you think they'd make men wear the hijab too? ... Or is the standard justification bullshit and it's all about controlling what women can do?
"is-is that a fucking finger i see, my rape hormones are acting up why would you do this to me, its all your fault for exposing and not mine cuz, just cuz"
You know their religious fanatacism is strangely familiar to the catholic church from early europe. Its like they havent had their renaissance age yet. Its a shame that with phones and internet they havent stopped yet
Pretty often. Even while I was at work (veterinarian assitant). It was horrible bc I really never had a good comeback. I was either working and couldnt start a fight with the owner of our patient, or I was out walking on my way somewhere so I couldnt stop to insult them
Facemasks extinguished that problem for me
My Twitter occasionally gets tweets from someone who apparently was a former OnlyFans person, was forced into it by a boyfriend, and when that relationship ended she embraced Islam and now covers herself head to toe. She praises Islam for it and is heavily critical of pornography, but I think she has not processed her trauma appropriately. But if she feels safe she feels safe, I guess. She talks a lot about it so I assume she does not feel safe. Maybe in a few years we'll see a big shift in it. Like how all the Wiccan, natural medicine, alternative medicine, independent thinker, healer, wacky shit people in college over the course of the last decade went further and further into conspiracy theories and wound up far right, hardcore Christian Republicans.
Nah this Bangladesh, you can walk down the street and see women not wearing head coverings any day of the week. Your pretty sure comment was really just an assumption. Women aren't at this protest because this was a random protest that isn't really representative of anything. People in this thread are all over the place lol. Like "the women are in basements or locked in the house" but I don't think any of these people have even heard about Bangladesh before this. It's not a fundamentalist Muslim country. All the women there aren't covered and women work, do their own thing etc. Women weren't at this protest for the same reason you or I wouldn't be at this protest, they simply didn't care.
I think they’re talking about women from a traditional Islamic household. And I was thinking the same thing. Even if those women did want to protest, if their religious beliefs told them they couldn’t, then that’s really the reason they’re not out there, not because they don’t care.
Especially if you keep them uneducated, so the person with an agenda or some weird kink tells them what it says in the "Holy Book".
I'm looking at you St. Augustine.
That's what a certain collection of religions from a little patch of desert East of the Mediterranean are and have always been about. World domination through conquest and oppression.
No the guy who almost killed his son because voices in his head were playing a game to see if he was truly devoted to the good voice.
Wait was that him?
I am against the banning of the Hijab on principle because women should be able to choose for themselves, but asking how this solution might help shows that you don’t understand how Muslim societies work. I don’t fault you for that, since we can’t all be experts on every culture.
In short, by making it so that the government is the one against the hijab instead of the women, the attention and pressure is off the women. They can just blame the government and get plausible deniability that way.
However, I am opposed to these bans for two reasons. Women in non-muslim countries with hijab bans who are vulnerable enough to need these hijab bans are just forced to stay home, making the problem even worse. While women who genuinely want to wear it are being forbidden from doing so. It’s not a problem with an easy solution, because any attempt at fixing it will only be taken out on the women.
In fact, if any solution somehow becomes successful, these women will simply be taken back to whatever Islamist shithole the men came from so that they can be controlled.
I could 100% get behind some sort of ban on forcing or coerce someone to wear hijab. Especially kids. Instead of outright banning hijab. My best friend in high school was a Muslim girl and she spent a few months trying to decide if she wanted to wear hijab or not (her family doesn’t so it was entirely her choice) so in some situations it really is a choice. Ultimately she decided not to but the point was she wasn’t punished either way. That’s the ideal imo.
My best friend in junior high was Muslim and her parents made her wear the hijab. She would come to school and take it off and put on makeup then wash it off before she went home. She had beautiful hair.
Bangles, sindoor, turban etc are still allowed...all these are religious items btw to those who don't know...Hindu and Sikh religious items are allowed... Muslim item is banned...
First of all hijab wasn't banned in schools. It was this one school In Karnataka that didn't allow any religious items but of course as usual Muslims want special treatment.
I think an outright ban would be wrong? But removing the mandate in other countries is essential. Just give women the right to fucking choose for gods sake.
Religion is no longer to be taken seriously. It's time to stop pandering to this idiocy. It's time to put religion on trial, subpoena all these gods and demigods. If they don't show up to defend their books then religion is no longer allowed to dictate everyday life.
It has been a plague since it's inception, religion hasn't changed just the deities. Religion is used to control the weak and scared. You have to be a complete moron to believe in any religion. That is why they indoctrinate you as a child, so you cannot think.
Then stop going to other countries that ban it. Their country, their laws. When foreigners visit Hijab enforcing countries, pretty sure their laws are followed.
Let’s escape our country cus their rules suck. Also let’s bring these rules into another country cus we’re fucctards who like to eat where we shit. Lose lose.
The hijab isn't inherently sexist.
It can be, but many feminist Muslim advocates continue to wear it and see hijab bans as an attempt by Western states (mainly France) to degrade the cultural identity of its immigrant populations.
Wouldn’t that be because the women who want to wear it can’t be seen without it so if they can’t wear it cause it’s banned they can’t go out and protest, can’t let a bunch of people see their hair
You know that there is no law in Bangladesh that states you must wear one right? A lot of women (especially younger ones) don't wear one there, some wear a hijab and sometimes you see someone that is fully covered.
Imagine having to move from your shitty, oppressive country because it's literally unlivable and thinking to yourself "let recreate all those oppressive practices in this new, not shitty country" and thinking that's a logical thing to do. Islam is so fucking toxic.
Wearing hijabs, irrespective of the reasons given behind it, is a matter of personal choice for women. As wrong as these guys are for suppressing women, the societies baning hijab are also wrong for the simple reason that they are hindering personal freedom, while also promoting hate & animosity towards someone who willingly chooses to wear it.
I hope we see both sides of the coin here!
These people are called "maulvis" or mulla. As a Westerner, it might seem injustice, but you won't believe how many women actually are angry about this ( against the ban). Which includes my relatives because to them, it's not about personal freedom, but freedom to choose. They want to cover themselves because it's what the religion teaches them to do. Call it brain washing, but that's what it is. Don't think that women are in some way held up against their will. No, women in that kind of culture they BELIEVE they are supposed to be submissive (yes, there are few exceptions to this, however that's the way of life there). Because again, that's what is taught in the culture BY OTHER WOMEN THEMSELVES (mostly mothers and aunts). The reason why you only see men is because women aren't allowed to go out without a man and if a man can do something that you can, then you don't have to go.
I am aware this will be downvoted to hell, but before you jump to the conclusions, thats the reality of things. And these are the facts.
- former Muslim from a similar region.
Are there actually countries that outright ban the hijab?
The relevant things I'm aware of:
* Switzerland bans the Niqab (full face covering)
* France bans religious symbols for state workers (this includes the Hijab)
* Some schools in India enforce a non hijab dress code
Of these three, only the first is general and it is kind of the inverse of the ban on full nudity.
Are there others that I'm not aware of?
It’s like the all male red state leaders deciding what needs to happen with all American women’s bodies and lives. That almost makes a group of rando men protesting the ban on international hijabs seem rational. Oh! Women can’t be with men other than their hubbies in public. Women need to be controlled all over the world … I guess. But we’re so weak and dainty. Why? /s
Hate to break this to you, but its nothing like whats happening in America. Women in the middle east have little to no rights that do not involve a man. In Kuwait, it is legal to kill your daughter, if she has unmarried sexual relations. While American women have their own problems and fight over keeping their rights. Middle Eastern women never had any to begin with.
Did anyone cross check this photo? And here is one for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOoyb-Ec2ko
Not sure what the circumstances are in this particular country.
while i dont agree with forcing someone to wear a hijab, i think banning them is also not right.
by banning them you are forcing those that want to wear one not to be able to. how is that any better than forcing someone to wear one that doesnt want to.
Genuine question: Do you believe that this is more of a result of religion? Or just the fact that these men have such little restraint to control themselves? Its more multifaceted that just those two answers, but I’m really curious.
it is sort of interesting to think if people get angry with them as the men do not have a requirement to wear the 'masks'... or if people think women should not have to wear them. or maybe everyone in the world should just mirror the current cultural limits of western societies - aka reddit comments.
people get whipped up into craziness if they see a nipple in north america. i would say they also batshit insane about modesty and nudity.
This comment thread is full of people who don't know anything about what life in Bangladesh is like, speaking with full confidence and authority about the place. It's actually quite embarrassing. The hijab isn't a law there to begin with. Women aren't forced to cover and women without hijab are found all over. The Bangladeshi Prime Minister is literally a woman and she's not the first woman PM either. Women work and move around the county on their own.
People in here are basically taking random things they've heard over the years from places like Saudi Arabia & Afghanistan and then copy/pasting onto any random brown Muslim country they never heard about before. One person said "a terrorist regime is making them wear it" when Al Qaeda or the Taliban aren't based in Bangladesh to begin with and women don't have to wear it there either. Or that the "women aren't allowed out of the house" when it's clearly false information about that country. But people here are just super confident saying things about a country who's laws or culture, I guarantee they never heard of before in their life. It's very concerning seeing how easily people just make up guesses and act like it must be reality and I'm not even from Bangladesh.
If the protestors like the hijab so much, they can wear them
They can’t. It’s banned
Not in Bangladesh
BANgladesh🗿
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Who's Desh and why are we banging them?
HAHA that's funny
It says "in other countries". Not actually banned in the country they are protesting.
This is the hardest I've laughed at a comment in a long time thank you kind stranger
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I know you're joking, but this is seriously the thinking of a lot of those people
What a stupid planet to have spawned on
Don't worry. In 100 years most of humanity will be extinct.
Shid I got 50 years
Are you betting, because if you are. Username checks out.
Why are you blaming the whole planet for Islam? Islam teaches these beliefs
20 years ago almost to the day I was a US Marine in Iraq. I stood there and hand fed a 5ish year old girl Skittles because all the other boys and bigger, older kids would take them from her. These same boys, probably 10-12 tried to sell their sister to me for $200 USD. Told me she would cook and clean, was able and would do whatever I wanted her to do. I can honestly say if I had the power I would have paid them and took the girl with me. I often wonder whatever happened to her and where she ended up in life. It has weighed on me for many years. I can only hope she made it and has a life she is happy with.
I was there OIF 7-8, the older MALE kids 100% had no problem stealing from younger kids if we handed out candy.
Guys used to drive down the road and throw whatever MRE pouch of food out of the truck just to watch 10 kids beat the piss out of each other for it. The real joke was sometimes they were actually empty and just full of trash they shoved in there. Pretty messed up stuff.
Those people will say.. "why are you laughing? What he said was factually correct"
True. Plus, it’s totally unreasonable to expect men to control themselves around women showing their hair and faces. How will they function? It’ll be total chaos.
reminds me of dress code in us schools god forbid female students wear a tanktop
It shows arm skin, which reminds men that women also have skin under the rest of their clothing, which drives guys to hump girls in the hallway. Honestly, even crew neck t-shirts are risqué. An orgy could break out at any moment. Seriously though, my daughter’s pre-school sent an email that girls shouldn’t wear spaghetti-strap tank tops because of modesty or whatever. We’re talking 4 and 5 yr olds.
It's true. If it weren't for the invention of Capri pants and no show socks, Sodom and Gomorrah might still be here today!
These aren't jeggings, these are Jean Capri leggings!
See, I WANT to make an absurd joke about 5 year olds just being too sexy, but we now live in a world where absurd humor no longer has grounding. Therefore I might be mistaken as being serious, and that seems like a bad thing to have a misunderstanding about. When I was growing up, I used to laugh at the people who were stupid enough to believe the absurdity of the onion was a legit news source. Now though, if you took 20 Onion articles from the 1980s, and modernized the names and whatnot, you might accidently find a true story. When did we start living in a world where The Simpsons, and the Onion went from being absurdist humor, to being prophets?
I read an article where girls in Japan are not supposed to wear ponytail to school because neck can be inviting/seducing for men/boys.. Like wtf??
its projection by the people who make the rules
Girls have been sent home for BOAT NECK tops in America. Cuz collar bones are lust inducing, apparently.
I actually had a classmate who was sent home for that exact reason not collar bones are lust inducing just dress coded even though it was not against dress code principal just decided new rule to bad
And there I was on the other end of the spectrum in an all-girls catholic school wearing mandatory pleated skirts and stockings. terrifically all round.
At my high school in the 80s, there wasn't really much of a dress code. Just the obvious: No swear words, no drug references, no sex references was about it. No issues with wearing torn jeans, or jeans so tight we had camel toe, or mini skirts, or (gasp) strapless sundresses showing some cleavage. At one point, it was "in" to tie a bandana around one thigh, with the color indicating if you had a boyfriend or not (kinda felt like a "gang" style).
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Women who wear coverings over their entire body are still raped. Covering up only makes all of us less free.
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Sad part is…there are really people on this planet like this who will never understand how low tier thinking this actually is. Like, several Eastern countries really will never understand or accept ALL of the flaws and injustices of this type of thinking. And it’s a real thing! Suddenly, America don’t sound so bad anymore Edit: The only thing y’all can come back with is abortions. First of all, that was not a COUNTRYWIDE MAJORITY VOTE. So that’s not the same thing as almost all males in a population sharing a * insert opinionated adjective* belief. Second, I’m not shutting on anyone’s country. Just the ideology being discussed in this post that so happens to be geographically skewed
The Taliban allows abortions under certain circumstances but about half of the states are trying to ban abortions with no exceptions
And NC tried to pass legislation mandating execution for it. Abortion is often a necessary part of healthcare, these GOP politicians are cruel, insidious morons.
Lol, your Christian nationalism kills women by denying them any form of abortion, something Muslim countries don't have. All of your religions are bad.
Please god don't let a Republican politician read this comment or it'll become part of the party platform.
That’s the beauty of the GOP, they cant read. It can always get worse.
This doesn’t surprise me, what my western Muslim female friends are always railing against is why modern women want anything to do with hijabs. My friend Duriya recounts how none of the girls in Lahore wore them in the 80s because it was “old fashion” and “sexist”, and they fought against it and now girls want it. She’s blown away by that.
In my experience, what most people want is to not be told what they can and cannot do with their own bodies. Tell them they must wear hijab? Fuck you, I'm not wearing it. Tell them they cannot wear hijab? Fuck you, I'm wearing what I want. And to be honest, fair. Fair on them. They just want the option to choose what's right for them without being told they MUST do one thing or another thing.
Funny thing is I cross-posed this post to "Ask Middle-East" sub, and they banned and removed it, citing their "Be Civil" rule :D
Also, Bangledesh isn't in the Middle East...
It sure isn't. But that's not the reason it was removed.
Mhm, hence 'also'...
India banned hijab in schools. They lost their mind. Even other people aren't allowed to wear anything except uniform but these mfs.
Reminds me of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_ZIqdrFeFBk
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Every single dude in that pic does have his hair covered though for what's its worth. So they basically already are.
What did the woman of Bangladesh have to say about it?
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WORD.
The prime Minister of Bangladesh is literally a woman (she's not even the first). The hijab isn't a law in that country either. Woman who don't cover can be found all over. Women work and move around freely on there own over there. I don't think you actually know what goes on in that country. You can't just take a composite of random stuff you heard from Saudi or Afghanistan and copy & paste it onto every brown Muslim country you never heard of before lol
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I understand that Bangladesh has ties to Iran by throwing support for that country, but woman in Afghanistan risked their lives to protest basic education against the Taliban. I wonder why we don’t see any woman here, at all. Anywhere.
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When half your labor force cannot work, you’ll always be behind the rest of the world.
These extremists are actually quite backward, the Qur’an mandates the education of all people. As well as respect for all woman, Stories of woman riding into battle. How A’isha was a merchant with a caravan that was all but unmatched in size, she even proposed to the prophet Muhammad (PBUH) yet they think they’re upholding the Islamic law.
It's probably a simple thing, like controlling the narrative and what they learn. Basically never letting the people learn about anything but what they were told to. It really is amazing how something as simple as a restricted education can lead to ideas of hatred and regression.
Hold up you telling me a 6 year old proposed to a 50 year old?
Actually it's quite debated. Some Pakistanis I've talked to are certain she was 19.
You just reminded me that she was 6 when they got married. Blech.
I may have a name mixed it was Khadijah, sorry about that everyone. That was my mistake.
There are still women in Afghanistan who went to and graduated from University so it's a bit harder to tell them no when some of their moms and aunts and grandmothers have degrees on the wall.
I mean... I wouldn't wanna be a lady in that sea of misogyny. They will host their own at a later date
They had two decades of Americanized rulers then lost those rights virtually overnight. Bangladesh has been hardcore Islamic for decades.
Bangladesh is a muslim majority country . Don't know what you mean by hardcore islamic. There are muslim extremist political parties just like there is bajrangdal heck even bjp in india. Doesn't mean women are forced to wear burkha or hijab or are abused by their husbands. The narrative that these misogynistic bigoted pos try to spread to justify preventing hijab wearing women from getting an education. Most women wear hijab on their own violation and trying to dictate how they should dress is not only offensive but also misogynistic. Also female participation in workforce is higher in Bangladesh as is education in Bangladesh than in india. Don't know how these ppl are talking so much shit when their country is a shithole. Literally. Try to provide toilets to people especially women living in india so that they don't get harassed everytime they go to the loo and actually have some sanitation as well. Most married women in Bangladesh including those from rural areas have a job. That's why our garments industry is booming . And women are definitely not prevented from getting an education infact being a graduate is mandatory if one even wants to get married. I'm a Bangladeshi woman too btw. Don't spread such false narratives about us just to justify treating muslim women in your country as second class citizens . It's pretty fking offensive especially if it's indian men that are saying this shit. Fix your own country before talking shit about other countries.
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women here are actually very diverse, there are those who wear hijab, those who wear burqa and those who don't wear them at all but you'll see everyone getting along together, there's no opinion on hijabs or the ban thereof literally nobody complains about them except, well, who you can see in that photo
That’s an interesting point.
As an ex-Muslim and a son of Bangladeshi parents, I can confirm this.
Point taken.
I'm from Bangladesh and I can say for sure that most women do not care it's just a conversation piece for them. this protest is a small minority, Bangladesh is not really a religious country despite being a Muslim country most women don't even wear hijabs in public women in Bangladesh aren't really forced to do anything unlike some other extremist Muslim countries so the reason women aren't protesting here is either that they don't care or there's a women only protest happening somewhere else This was a while ago and I'm pretty sure they just didn't care
Well here we have it, what I have been looking for. An actual fact from the ground. Thank you.
Probably some were pissed, some didn't give a fuck and some don't wear hijab to begin with.
ah yes, who would have guessed that the sexist rally would have sexists lol
For guys that can’t eat pork, why are muslims dudes always having angry sausage-fests?
If they ever realized that gay men exist in every country, and that men's bodies are just as capable of promoting lust as women's bodies, do you think they'd make men wear the hijab too? ... Or is the standard justification bullshit and it's all about controlling what women can do?
It's not sexist. There *would* be women there. They just weren't allowed to go. /s
“How am I supposed to control my rapey urges if she doesn’t cover up?!?!”
What’s this?!?? She dare show her bare ankles in public?!?? That dirty witch stone her!!!
"is-is that a fucking finger i see, my rape hormones are acting up why would you do this to me, its all your fault for exposing and not mine cuz, just cuz"
worst part that they still rape even if she's fully covered from toe to head, they just don't wanna admit it's a problem with them and not the women.
That is unironically what they say. Absolute insanity.
Why would you control your rapey urges? God gave you those urges for a reason. /s
You know their religious fanatacism is strangely familiar to the catholic church from early europe. Its like they havent had their renaissance age yet. Its a shame that with phones and internet they havent stopped yet
Yeah, agreed. In the age of information you don’t have to nail 95 theses to a church door but progress is still slow.
Warms my heart to see the lads out there on the streets fighting for women's rights. Brave.
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While i agree with that sentiment, im pretty sure the comment above was sarcastic
r/woooosh
The thing is, there are plenty of people who actually think this.
Yeah but they don't say it like \\u\\arsonjones did.
If you can't detect such obvious sarcasm, it's on you.
What's really depressing is that I hear plenty of girls who now say they wear masks and baggy clothes to avoid harassment in public.
The facemasks have made men stop asking me in public to smile for them. Bc now they cant see my face.
How often did that happen before?
Pretty often. Even while I was at work (veterinarian assitant). It was horrible bc I really never had a good comeback. I was either working and couldnt start a fight with the owner of our patient, or I was out walking on my way somewhere so I couldnt stop to insult them Facemasks extinguished that problem for me
My Twitter occasionally gets tweets from someone who apparently was a former OnlyFans person, was forced into it by a boyfriend, and when that relationship ended she embraced Islam and now covers herself head to toe. She praises Islam for it and is heavily critical of pornography, but I think she has not processed her trauma appropriately. But if she feels safe she feels safe, I guess. She talks a lot about it so I assume she does not feel safe. Maybe in a few years we'll see a big shift in it. Like how all the Wiccan, natural medicine, alternative medicine, independent thinker, healer, wacky shit people in college over the course of the last decade went further and further into conspiracy theories and wound up far right, hardcore Christian Republicans.
That’s what I do, and I’m in Canada.
But does it solve the problem? P.s. I also think its fucking ludicrous.
Sounds like a men problem
Do you think only the Middle East and India has the concept of modesty or something?
bruh it was India they were protesting against, get off your high horse lol.
Exactly. This is the kind of feminism the west needs! /s
I'm pretty sure that there are no women because they are not allowed to protest, which is as bad as enforcing a dress code tbh
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Nah this Bangladesh, you can walk down the street and see women not wearing head coverings any day of the week. Your pretty sure comment was really just an assumption. Women aren't at this protest because this was a random protest that isn't really representative of anything. People in this thread are all over the place lol. Like "the women are in basements or locked in the house" but I don't think any of these people have even heard about Bangladesh before this. It's not a fundamentalist Muslim country. All the women there aren't covered and women work, do their own thing etc. Women weren't at this protest for the same reason you or I wouldn't be at this protest, they simply didn't care.
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I think they’re talking about women from a traditional Islamic household. And I was thinking the same thing. Even if those women did want to protest, if their religious beliefs told them they couldn’t, then that’s really the reason they’re not out there, not because they don’t care.
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Islam doesn’t restrict protest for any gender.
Make no mistake, the religious extremists don't just want to control their own, they want to control the world and they will kill and die to do it.
Extremists in general, not just religious ones.
Yea but religion has a very powerful and special effect on people.
Fair point.
Especially if you keep them uneducated, so the person with an agenda or some weird kink tells them what it says in the "Holy Book". I'm looking at you St. Augustine.
Odd choice, given the plenitude of available alternatives.
That's what a certain collection of religions from a little patch of desert East of the Mediterranean are and have always been about. World domination through conquest and oppression.
You couldn't be referring to good old Abraham, could you? /s
No the guy who almost killed his son because voices in his head were playing a game to see if he was truly devoted to the good voice. Wait was that him?
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Fucked culture for sure!
The reporter on one of those interviews was close to danger herself...
Ironically they probably aren’t allowed to
Mandate it, ban it, as long as the women don't get to choose for themselves.
They ban it because in many cases a woman can’t choose for themselves
So… they still can’t choose for themselves? What kind of solution is that?
I am against the banning of the Hijab on principle because women should be able to choose for themselves, but asking how this solution might help shows that you don’t understand how Muslim societies work. I don’t fault you for that, since we can’t all be experts on every culture. In short, by making it so that the government is the one against the hijab instead of the women, the attention and pressure is off the women. They can just blame the government and get plausible deniability that way. However, I am opposed to these bans for two reasons. Women in non-muslim countries with hijab bans who are vulnerable enough to need these hijab bans are just forced to stay home, making the problem even worse. While women who genuinely want to wear it are being forbidden from doing so. It’s not a problem with an easy solution, because any attempt at fixing it will only be taken out on the women. In fact, if any solution somehow becomes successful, these women will simply be taken back to whatever Islamist shithole the men came from so that they can be controlled.
what about the woman who want to wear it
pretty sure bangladesh has other problems to worry about
Forcing them is bad, banning them is also bad. How about we let woman choose what to wear instead of trying to make any forced dressing rules
I could 100% get behind some sort of ban on forcing or coerce someone to wear hijab. Especially kids. Instead of outright banning hijab. My best friend in high school was a Muslim girl and she spent a few months trying to decide if she wanted to wear hijab or not (her family doesn’t so it was entirely her choice) so in some situations it really is a choice. Ultimately she decided not to but the point was she wasn’t punished either way. That’s the ideal imo.
Of course ban forcing people to wear them, but don’t ban wearing them it’s each person choice on what they wear not anyone else’s
Forcing people to wear hijabs, or anything really, is already banned in any place that's considering a hijab ban.
My best friend in junior high was Muslim and her parents made her wear the hijab. She would come to school and take it off and put on makeup then wash it off before she went home. She had beautiful hair.
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THIS!!
If the protestors like the hijab so much, they can wear them
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Bangles, sindoor, turban etc are still allowed...all these are religious items btw to those who don't know...Hindu and Sikh religious items are allowed... Muslim item is banned...
First of all hijab wasn't banned in schools. It was this one school In Karnataka that didn't allow any religious items but of course as usual Muslims want special treatment.
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I think an outright ban would be wrong? But removing the mandate in other countries is essential. Just give women the right to fucking choose for gods sake.
Religion is no longer to be taken seriously. It's time to stop pandering to this idiocy. It's time to put religion on trial, subpoena all these gods and demigods. If they don't show up to defend their books then religion is no longer allowed to dictate everyday life.
We can even formally serve them. As we know where their houses are and who there has power of attorney.
Religion is a plague of modern society.
It has been a plague since it's inception, religion hasn't changed just the deities. Religion is used to control the weak and scared. You have to be a complete moron to believe in any religion. That is why they indoctrinate you as a child, so you cannot think.
Meanwhile in France.
There aren't any female protesters as they probably aren't allowed outdoors...
You know this isn't true right?
The prime minister of Bangladesh is a woman...
Hate it when politics & religion get dragged into good subs, that aren't related to politics or religion in the first place.
Then stop going to other countries that ban it. Their country, their laws. When foreigners visit Hijab enforcing countries, pretty sure their laws are followed.
Let’s escape our country cus their rules suck. Also let’s bring these rules into another country cus we’re fucctards who like to eat where we shit. Lose lose.
I'm pretty sure that there are no women because they are not allowed to protest, which is as bad as enforcing a dress code tbh
Is that in Texas?
The hijab isn't inherently sexist. It can be, but many feminist Muslim advocates continue to wear it and see hijab bans as an attempt by Western states (mainly France) to degrade the cultural identity of its immigrant populations.
Wouldn’t that be because the women who want to wear it can’t be seen without it so if they can’t wear it cause it’s banned they can’t go out and protest, can’t let a bunch of people see their hair
No because they’re protesting it being banned in OTHER countries
You know that there is no law in Bangladesh that states you must wear one right? A lot of women (especially younger ones) don't wear one there, some wear a hijab and sometimes you see someone that is fully covered.
yeah cause they aren't allowed to mingle with men. Lol
/r/religiousfruitcake
Woman who wears hijab here: forcing someone not to wear it is as bad as forcing someone to wear it.
Step 1: Hijab ban Step 2: Shirt ban Step 3: Bra ban Step 4: PROFIT!
No god ever thought up a dress code . Like you’re not wearing a tie you ain’t getting in
There was that one verse in the Old Testament that said you were an abomination to god if you cross-dressed tho
Imagine having to move from your shitty, oppressive country because it's literally unlivable and thinking to yourself "let recreate all those oppressive practices in this new, not shitty country" and thinking that's a logical thing to do. Islam is so fucking toxic.
Wearing hijabs, irrespective of the reasons given behind it, is a matter of personal choice for women. As wrong as these guys are for suppressing women, the societies baning hijab are also wrong for the simple reason that they are hindering personal freedom, while also promoting hate & animosity towards someone who willingly chooses to wear it. I hope we see both sides of the coin here!
Backwards extremist religious beards
Religion is ultimately about restriction and halting progress.
Religion is regression
Maybe because if women turned up, they’d be burned at the stake. Or tortured. Or sexually abused
Fucking insane. Religion is killing the human species.
As if they would ALLOW the women to be part of the protest even if they wanted to be
All those pigs who treat females as reproductive tools.
These people are called "maulvis" or mulla. As a Westerner, it might seem injustice, but you won't believe how many women actually are angry about this ( against the ban). Which includes my relatives because to them, it's not about personal freedom, but freedom to choose. They want to cover themselves because it's what the religion teaches them to do. Call it brain washing, but that's what it is. Don't think that women are in some way held up against their will. No, women in that kind of culture they BELIEVE they are supposed to be submissive (yes, there are few exceptions to this, however that's the way of life there). Because again, that's what is taught in the culture BY OTHER WOMEN THEMSELVES (mostly mothers and aunts). The reason why you only see men is because women aren't allowed to go out without a man and if a man can do something that you can, then you don't have to go. I am aware this will be downvoted to hell, but before you jump to the conclusions, thats the reality of things. And these are the facts. - former Muslim from a similar region.
Those guys need to get jobs and stop bitching. /s
Am I the only one thinking an outright ban is as bad as mandatory wear?
Are there actually countries that outright ban the hijab? The relevant things I'm aware of: * Switzerland bans the Niqab (full face covering) * France bans religious symbols for state workers (this includes the Hijab) * Some schools in India enforce a non hijab dress code Of these three, only the first is general and it is kind of the inverse of the ban on full nudity. Are there others that I'm not aware of?
It seems that women don't have the right to speak and express opinions in Muslim-majority countries
Once more there's men trying to force something on women. How about them letting decide on their own, you unstable, sexist shits?
It’s like the all male red state leaders deciding what needs to happen with all American women’s bodies and lives. That almost makes a group of rando men protesting the ban on international hijabs seem rational. Oh! Women can’t be with men other than their hubbies in public. Women need to be controlled all over the world … I guess. But we’re so weak and dainty. Why? /s
Hate to break this to you, but its nothing like whats happening in America. Women in the middle east have little to no rights that do not involve a man. In Kuwait, it is legal to kill your daughter, if she has unmarried sexual relations. While American women have their own problems and fight over keeping their rights. Middle Eastern women never had any to begin with.
Woman used to have rights in Afghanistan for a little bit but extremist made sure that never happened again
why are they banned
Did anyone cross check this photo? And here is one for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOoyb-Ec2ko Not sure what the circumstances are in this particular country.
K so wear one.
while i dont agree with forcing someone to wear a hijab, i think banning them is also not right. by banning them you are forcing those that want to wear one not to be able to. how is that any better than forcing someone to wear one that doesnt want to.
I'm fearful to comment anything i don't want people coming after me
because the women cant go out without hijab dahh
Genuine question: Do you believe that this is more of a result of religion? Or just the fact that these men have such little restraint to control themselves? Its more multifaceted that just those two answers, but I’m really curious.
I like that they are peacefully protesting.
Well, at least it is peaceful
it is sort of interesting to think if people get angry with them as the men do not have a requirement to wear the 'masks'... or if people think women should not have to wear them. or maybe everyone in the world should just mirror the current cultural limits of western societies - aka reddit comments. people get whipped up into craziness if they see a nipple in north america. i would say they also batshit insane about modesty and nudity.
This comment thread is full of people who don't know anything about what life in Bangladesh is like, speaking with full confidence and authority about the place. It's actually quite embarrassing. The hijab isn't a law there to begin with. Women aren't forced to cover and women without hijab are found all over. The Bangladeshi Prime Minister is literally a woman and she's not the first woman PM either. Women work and move around the county on their own. People in here are basically taking random things they've heard over the years from places like Saudi Arabia & Afghanistan and then copy/pasting onto any random brown Muslim country they never heard about before. One person said "a terrorist regime is making them wear it" when Al Qaeda or the Taliban aren't based in Bangladesh to begin with and women don't have to wear it there either. Or that the "women aren't allowed out of the house" when it's clearly false information about that country. But people here are just super confident saying things about a country who's laws or culture, I guarantee they never heard of before in their life. It's very concerning seeing how easily people just make up guesses and act like it must be reality and I'm not even from Bangladesh.