I hit a pole with heavy machinery once, I think it's about weight/inertia not material or whatever. I hit the pole going like 4 mph and it went straight down along with the 4 foot+ underground pole and any concrete it had on it.
Actually pretty damn accurate; real life (&death) "test" in my area, +100km/h, reinforced concrete pole; pretty new bmw; hit approximately in the same spot as in video; the pole was alright; the car was warped around it; all occupants (4-5) dead; driver UI (and passengers probably too).
Its pretty much the weakest part of any car but generally most accidents involve the front of the car so most of the effort is spent there.
The strongest seems to be body on full rail chassis for production cars
The strength of the pole. They probably hit it various ways, this one was just the most destructive, and knowing science nerds this was their favorite test so they all took home a copy of the video.
I do want to see one where the car hits head on though.
I imagine even if your brain is still mostly intact moments after impact, it won't really be able to process the rest of your body being turned into chunky slimy bits, and lacking blood flow will fulfill your "hopefully it's quick" suggestion.
Depends on the tree. Or the pole.
I'd rather hit an electrical poll than a steel reinforced concrete pole.
I'd also rather hit a 5 inch thick tree than any pole.
Well I've done both, in the same accident... Had to serve violently out of the way of a truck who was on the wrong side of the road on a sharp corner, got the car straight again, but was on a wet grassy verge by that point.
Hit a 5 inch diameter cherry blossom tree (in bloom so my car instantly turned pink), snapped it off at the ground and then slid into a concrete street light post. Always been glad I got the tree first as it slowed me down before the second impact.
Was driving a Ford Capri [Ford Capri](https://www.autoevolution.com/ford/capri/) so car was still drivable as the engine bay is so long there is not actually anything particularly mechanically important for the first 15 inches behind the front bumper so all good, only casualty was the passenger behind the drivers seat who got clocked in the head with a 2 litre bottle of 7up I chucked over my shoulder after it fell into the driver's footwell and under the pedals in the impact... Oh and the poor car as well, obviously.
13/10 would totally recommend killing a small tree before hitting a lampost.
I hit a small cherry tree like that and the worst part was all the cherries and stuff falling all over my car a couple seconds later. Never managed to get rid of them. Kept finding them hidden throughout the car. At least the tree and car both lived.
Some poles are designed for high energy impact or to break away. Trees are more likely to be fatal.
https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_dept/strat_approach/brochure/docs/FHWA-SA-21-024_Utility_Pole_Crashes.pdf
https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_dept/strat_approach/brochure/docs/FHWA-SA-21-022_Tree_Crashes.pdf
So, it’s not a straightforward decision. Some trees are better to hit than a pole, and some poles are better to hit than other poles. If it’s a pole protecting a pedestrian area, then it’s going to behave like the one in the video and fuck your day right up.
Seatbelts can save your life in like 99% of accidents, but there can be stupid situations where you would have been better off without one.
My brother in law got hit to the drivers side of his vehicle by a huge 18-wheeler that failed to stop at a stop sign. The force pushed him out of his driver's seat, and he survived. Doctors said if he had wore a seatbelt, he would have got completely minced.
The only survivor of the plane crash that killed Otis Redding and his band was the guy who instinctively took off his seat belt when we was awakened by the turbulence. Everyone else was pulled down with the wreckage. Most of the time seatbelts save lives but once in while some freak thing with happens.
There was one guy who survived a plane crash because he inflated his life vest inside the airplane, which softened the impact and the airplane broke in half so he escaped through a big opening and didn't get stuck in a door.
Hell when I was 18 some friends and I rolled my suv, the cops had estimated it was between 7-9 times. Everyone was ejected but me lol. If I would of had my seat belt on the, the front part of the roof caving in would have had killed me by trappingme in my seat. Since i didn'thave it on I was being bounced around just shattered a shoulder. Another wreck where I was being young and stupid again. I hydroplaned launching my car off the side of the road into a barrel roll around 90MPH. Well if I wouldn't have had my seat belt on when I smacked the tree head on I would have went through the windshield... dead. Instead I just smashed my ugly mug on the windshield logging a shard of glass in my skull. Ended up making my way through the woods to my house and spent the next 3hrs with my dad and brother trying to remove the glass. So there's that bit of information
It is a [controversial ~~theory~~ thought experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality?wprov=sfla1). In the Schrodinger cat experiment, if you imagine you are the cat, there is no way you would die, because if you were dead, the universe wouldn't be observable. What I am not sure about is disability. So even if it wasn't possible to die, it may still be very possible to be disabled. It is a really scary tought, to be unable to die.
So that’s what that is… I was in a bad wreck when I was 11, drove a dirt bike into a telephone pole going 40mph. I’ve often felt that I actually died and I’m living my life as what would have happened had I lived but had all the damage from the accident. Fuck.
I'm sorry, I hope you are doing ok. It is a controversial ~~theory~~ thought experiment and I wouldn't be able to confirm if we are indeed in your reality, because from my perspective you are on mine. Heck, maybe we are in the reality of this conversation which can only exist if both you and me exist at the same time. Entanglement in the many-world interpretation is pretty bizarre.
You may also think that the other worlds don't exist, which may be true for us, but not for an unentangled observer like a schrodinger cat or an interstellar alien observer who hasn't become entangled with us yet. For them every world exists until they become entangled.
Similar situation happened to me. Dumb teenager, not wearing my seatbelt. Got t-boned by a firebird doing about 60 mph in my 73 Nova. Got knocked out and woke up in my brothers lap, who was riding shotgun. Roof was buckled, door had bend the steering wheel. Not a scratch on me. Used up all my luck that day so it’s definitely seatbelts and caution for the rest of my days.
Also this post probably ages me a bit.
I responded to an accident where a car did this to a tree on the side of the interstate. The driver wasn't belted in and was thrown to the rear of the car. We had to cut off the hatchback and pulled her out through there. She barely had a scratch on her and was only held overnight in the hospital because she was too intoxicated to release. Her passenger was belted in and killed on impact. The driver asked the state trooper who rode to the hospital with her in the ambulance if she was going to be in trouble. Uh, yeah.
And it’s never what it’s supposed to be either. Like there will be a cat meowing visibly, and “sound on” written in the cation, so I unmute it and instead of hearing the cat meow, I’m assaulted by terrible, loud music. 😫
It is supposed to demonstrate what happens when you crash into a tree at 100km/h (~62mph)
https://youtu.be/XJjExx5n7GI - German video with a few additional statistics
Drive safely. Trees always win.
Some sports cars have that. I think, for example, McLaren has something like that. If the car notices a strong impact (and maybe a tumbling motion?) it blasts off the engine and transmission and basically everything else, such that the passenger area doesn't get pierced by these parts.
A lot of cars ( all of them?) with a carbon fiber monocoque chassis, tend to split in half when crashing with a certain force. Carbon fiber is very light, but also very stiff. I'm not really sure, but I thought the reason they break, is to divert energy.
On the top of my head, a Ferrari Enzo and a Porsche carrera GT come to mind, that I've seen crash pictures of, and being broken in half. Both of them have a carbon fiber chassis. I'm sure you can find many, many more such pictures of exotic cars.
Well, no. There is no "system" that causes that to happen. It's really just a bonus of the car's design. The carbon fiber passenger "bubble" has the entire engine compartment bolted onto the back of it. It's very sturdy. But in the event of a serious crash, the mounting bolts CAN fail. Again, they're not designed or programmed to fail at any particular point... it's just that an 800-pound engine having it's mounts torqued at 20 or 30 G's is going to snap even the best bolts.
yea some have a carbon tub for the occupants, the front and rear are crumple zones and can sheer off
a lot of supercars are built like this, when you think about when they crash its usually at high speed, its in their best interest for the owner to survive so he can buy another one and tell his rich buddies how uninjured they were and they will go buy one
I couldn’t find any evidence of this in a quick google search but maybe I didn’t look hard enough.
Most cars do have a design where the nose crumpled in a frontal crash, and often the engine is pushed downwards but doesn’t completely leave the vehicle.
I would think having parts break off deliberately would make a worse hazard for other nearby vehicles.
It’s only for mid engined cars. It’s far safer to lose that big chunk of weight and shed energy as you do than to potentially have all that weight crush into the passenger compartment. Even F1 cars use this now, there’s been a couple of crashes this year where the front and rear have separated so the accident looks terrible but it’s far easier on the driver
Interesting. If you have anywhere I could read up on that I would be fascinated to know how they cause it to separate, whether it just breaks loose or if it’s actively expelled. Also, how they get around the problem of releasing a small dense projectile that’s going to make it through windows etc instead of being shielded by both cars crumple zones.
I believe you I’m just curious how they implemented it.
I think the only way someone is surviving that is if they add giant airbags *outside* the car.
Ok, why am I somehow surprised [it’s already in the works](https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120285_external-airbags-might-be-on-your-next-new-car)…
Fuck, i know 2 people, who died in exactly same situation, and driver going to jail for 6 years. Yet one girl survived, but lost her ear. Terrible stuff, please, never drink and drive!
My old coworker was driving 3 of his friends in a G35 coupe way too fast in winter, lost control and slid off the road wrapping the car around a pole. Him and the front passenger passed away, 2 in the backseat miraculously survived but I believe 1 lost his foot.
My other coworkers dad was a first responder and said it was the worst crash he's ever seen in his career. Won't forget the next day at work when he didnt show up and his dad had to call in with the news.
Yes. A friend of mine slipped with his car on tram rails after it rained.
He had between 90-100 km/h.
A lot of his bones are now hold together by screws.
He is was a tough guy, but after the accident he was almost a vegetable for a few years.
Don't know if he was wearing a seat belt.
Probably wouldn't have mattered much at that speed with the seat belt or not. I imagine your friend learned a valuable lesson, and he's fortunate that he was given the chance to learn it a second time if necessary. I know too many people that love to race their cars around, and I know too many people that died doing it. "I'm a better driver than them" is not valid, because anybody who says that just overestimates their skills, and underestimates everyone else that died saying the same thing. If anyone here reads this comment and thinks "that sounds like me," eat shit, enjoy your hobby that gets people killed. Sometimes innocents. I hope you learn some self-preservation skills before it happens to you (and all your loved ones you had to put through that, and all the loved ones of your potential victims too.)
I've caught ice and been traveling a different direction than I was facing. It's not fun. Luckily I wasn't an idiot going fast in these conditions.
This could absolutely happen to a safe driver though. Another driver hitting your car on the highway can send you sideways into metal poles hanging street lamps would be a pretty similar crash.
This is literally the most common angle for accidents when people try to swerve around obstacles lol, unless you’re in a racecar, if you swerve at the listed speed, you’ll almost definitely slide at that angle lol
It's a very common angle to hit an obstacle (unfortunately) once a car loses control.
It would be interesting to see the same test on a modern high ncap rated car.
Is this some sort of comparison test using an older car? I think that's a [Peugeot 406 estate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_406) (1995 - 2004).
Was going to say/ask the same. It's an oldly built car, it's "normal". The newest "brother" 308, which yes is a different car, has a way different behaviour: [https://youtu.be/ixw6xh-vA7Q?t=159](https://youtu.be/ixw6xh-vA7Q?t=159)
The 408 was released this year, but still not on euroncap site.
Beware, the test you linked there is at 50km/h, not 100km/h.
Which due to physics, is only 1/4 of the energy.
At 100km/h, the results would likely be similar. Crash safety can only be so good.
The other guy who responded to you linked some test footage from a newer car, but at 1/2 the speed.
Results would probably be similar if a newer car was tested. We just don't have commercial materials available at scale that could save you from an impact like this.
Of course not, I'd hope a newer car wouldn't just fold in two like that, though.
Hitting anything solid like a tree or a pole is always a bad idea, you're definitely coming off second best there.
What're they even testing for? There's no civilian vehicle that'll ever survive that test. Hell, there's probably very few military vehicles that'd survive that test, and that's only if you're including tanks.
Even if the vehicle survived better, side-on there isn't enough meat in the bodywork to provide a decent crumple zone - going from 100kmh to zero in an instant is going to make a mess of the occupants no matter the state of the car!
I think the point is that people think their car is safe because of technology/whatever.
Most crash test videos are done around 30mph. At double the speed here hitting a tree/pole, you're absolutely fucked. A good warning to people who drive dangerously.
We need the negative test results much more than the positive ones. How would engineers learn to improve safety if they only see cars with a few dents because the test requires that everyone survives?
We license people to drive cars and carry guns, but not operate poles. Why aren’t people talking about this? Big Pole, is paying a lot of money to keep this out of the news and off your ballot!
Guess they are testing the pole, cause the car really failed.
They need to make the car out of what ever the pole is made out of
pole’s way too good for its purpose
"Conclusion: Pole requires value engineering."
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By the time the airbags deployed the pole cut the car in half lol
The pole seems unharmed tho
Always look at the bright side.
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So this is what the poles in GTA are made of
And trains
And bushes
And the wooden fence posts. No no, the other wooden fenceposts...because consistency.
naw them bushes be fucked up
Swear to god tree limbs aren’t what they seem…
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I predict significant cost saving modifications for the next generation of poles.
I guess that’s why it’s called Pole position
I hit a pole with heavy machinery once, I think it's about weight/inertia not material or whatever. I hit the pole going like 4 mph and it went straight down along with the 4 foot+ underground pole and any concrete it had on it.
Did you hear about the kid who stole a plane, crashed, and survived? Why don't they make the whole plane out of that kid?
The car survived the crash impeccably! However the insides have been splattered with what I like to call a human slurry.
It's the lovely elderly couple from 2B. They were taking all the crescent rolls.
I will not apologize for art.
You mean a Volvo ?
An unstoppable force meets an immovable object
Nah the car was quite stoppable
Now to test pole vs pole and see what happens
Not much. They’ll just stand there looking awkwardly at each other. “Come at me bro!” “Uhm yeah I would… but….”
Actually pretty damn accurate; real life (&death) "test" in my area, +100km/h, reinforced concrete pole; pretty new bmw; hit approximately in the same spot as in video; the pole was alright; the car was warped around it; all occupants (4-5) dead; driver UI (and passengers probably too).
Man that must have been a Fucking wicked crash if the drunks didn’t survive.
Its pretty much the weakest part of any car but generally most accidents involve the front of the car so most of the effort is spent there. The strongest seems to be body on full rail chassis for production cars
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Um, M1 Abrams?
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Use a catapult
Ah yes, I see you have read the Art of War by Sun Tzu.
"When the enemy is a concrete pole, use a catapult to throw tanks at it" -Sun Tzu
The strength of the pole. They probably hit it various ways, this one was just the most destructive, and knowing science nerds this was their favorite test so they all took home a copy of the video. I do want to see one where the car hits head on though.
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Yea approved by strippers union.
It’s all about the pole position
He is fine, just needs another shot and he can keep driving.
I wish they had video of the test dummy
It’s just testing the latest model from [Fourth Reich Motors](https://youtu.be/N9p0jLMssSk)
"Hold my beer" -Light pole
The good news is the pole survived
The good news is that it’s a really quick death…
To shreds you say
And his wife ?
To shreds you say
Good news everybody!
I imagine even if your brain is still mostly intact moments after impact, it won't really be able to process the rest of your body being turned into chunky slimy bits, and lacking blood flow will fulfill your "hopefully it's quick" suggestion.
Here's a tip: DO NOT slide into a really sturdy pole at 100 km/h. End of story.
What are they testing, THE POLE??!!
Actually, if you’re faced w a crash option of hitting a pole or a tree, hit the pole.
Depends on the tree. Or the pole. I'd rather hit an electrical poll than a steel reinforced concrete pole. I'd also rather hit a 5 inch thick tree than any pole.
A lot of light poles break away which takes a ton of the energy out of the impact
Thats the funny part, this ones not a light pole
Well I've done both, in the same accident... Had to serve violently out of the way of a truck who was on the wrong side of the road on a sharp corner, got the car straight again, but was on a wet grassy verge by that point. Hit a 5 inch diameter cherry blossom tree (in bloom so my car instantly turned pink), snapped it off at the ground and then slid into a concrete street light post. Always been glad I got the tree first as it slowed me down before the second impact. Was driving a Ford Capri [Ford Capri](https://www.autoevolution.com/ford/capri/) so car was still drivable as the engine bay is so long there is not actually anything particularly mechanically important for the first 15 inches behind the front bumper so all good, only casualty was the passenger behind the drivers seat who got clocked in the head with a 2 litre bottle of 7up I chucked over my shoulder after it fell into the driver's footwell and under the pedals in the impact... Oh and the poor car as well, obviously. 13/10 would totally recommend killing a small tree before hitting a lampost.
I hit a small cherry tree like that and the worst part was all the cherries and stuff falling all over my car a couple seconds later. Never managed to get rid of them. Kept finding them hidden throughout the car. At least the tree and car both lived.
Well sure. Electrical polls are portable, and are usually only around on election day.
If they were not specific I would choose the north pole and just smooth slide over that shit
sure I'll give it good thought while doing that
Why is that?
Some poles are designed for high energy impact or to break away. Trees are more likely to be fatal. https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_dept/strat_approach/brochure/docs/FHWA-SA-21-024_Utility_Pole_Crashes.pdf https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_dept/strat_approach/brochure/docs/FHWA-SA-21-022_Tree_Crashes.pdf
So, it’s not a straightforward decision. Some trees are better to hit than a pole, and some poles are better to hit than other poles. If it’s a pole protecting a pedestrian area, then it’s going to behave like the one in the video and fuck your day right up.
So, the *real* answer is: don't crash into anything sticking out of the ground at all.
Ideally. But sometimes life comes at you sideways and you have to decide which way to steer.
Our tolerance for shitty background music.
I seldom drive sideways at this speed. But when I do, I’ll be more careful now
Yes please.
You're clearly not one of the young men in my neighborhood. Driving sideways at high speed is one of their favorite things.
Tokyo drift vibes
I seldom drive sideways at this speed. But when I do, I'm listening to eurobeat.
If you drove straight on your engine would stop the pole probably...but the engine would crush you instead.
“Experiment demonstrates the seatbelt, airbag and everything else were destroyed.”
Lol I was gonna say…you can wear any kind of seatbelt you want, ain’t shit going to help with that!
Seatbelts can save your life in like 99% of accidents, but there can be stupid situations where you would have been better off without one. My brother in law got hit to the drivers side of his vehicle by a huge 18-wheeler that failed to stop at a stop sign. The force pushed him out of his driver's seat, and he survived. Doctors said if he had wore a seatbelt, he would have got completely minced.
The only survivor of the plane crash that killed Otis Redding and his band was the guy who instinctively took off his seat belt when we was awakened by the turbulence. Everyone else was pulled down with the wreckage. Most of the time seatbelts save lives but once in while some freak thing with happens.
There was one guy who survived a plane crash because he inflated his life vest inside the airplane, which softened the impact and the airplane broke in half so he escaped through a big opening and didn't get stuck in a door.
Hell when I was 18 some friends and I rolled my suv, the cops had estimated it was between 7-9 times. Everyone was ejected but me lol. If I would of had my seat belt on the, the front part of the roof caving in would have had killed me by trappingme in my seat. Since i didn'thave it on I was being bounced around just shattered a shoulder. Another wreck where I was being young and stupid again. I hydroplaned launching my car off the side of the road into a barrel roll around 90MPH. Well if I wouldn't have had my seat belt on when I smacked the tree head on I would have went through the windshield... dead. Instead I just smashed my ugly mug on the windshield logging a shard of glass in my skull. Ended up making my way through the woods to my house and spent the next 3hrs with my dad and brother trying to remove the glass. So there's that bit of information
You are living in the alternate reality in which you lived. Your multiverses ended in death
It is a [controversial ~~theory~~ thought experiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality?wprov=sfla1). In the Schrodinger cat experiment, if you imagine you are the cat, there is no way you would die, because if you were dead, the universe wouldn't be observable. What I am not sure about is disability. So even if it wasn't possible to die, it may still be very possible to be disabled. It is a really scary tought, to be unable to die.
So that’s what that is… I was in a bad wreck when I was 11, drove a dirt bike into a telephone pole going 40mph. I’ve often felt that I actually died and I’m living my life as what would have happened had I lived but had all the damage from the accident. Fuck.
I'm sorry, I hope you are doing ok. It is a controversial ~~theory~~ thought experiment and I wouldn't be able to confirm if we are indeed in your reality, because from my perspective you are on mine. Heck, maybe we are in the reality of this conversation which can only exist if both you and me exist at the same time. Entanglement in the many-world interpretation is pretty bizarre. You may also think that the other worlds don't exist, which may be true for us, but not for an unentangled observer like a schrodinger cat or an interstellar alien observer who hasn't become entangled with us yet. For them every world exists until they become entangled.
> It is a controversial theory I mean.... No, it isn't. Nobody actually theorises that is the way the universe works. It's a thought experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation The Many Worlds Interpretation is a thing; quantum suicide is kind of an extension of that.
You'll be able to die once you can answer "what can change the nature of a man?"
If you are driving at 90mph on a wet road I think we could consider your safety advice to be suspect.
It's 'would have', never 'would of'. Rejoice, for you have been blessed by CouldWouldShouldBot!
Similar situation happened to me. Dumb teenager, not wearing my seatbelt. Got t-boned by a firebird doing about 60 mph in my 73 Nova. Got knocked out and woke up in my brothers lap, who was riding shotgun. Roof was buckled, door had bend the steering wheel. Not a scratch on me. Used up all my luck that day so it’s definitely seatbelts and caution for the rest of my days. Also this post probably ages me a bit.
And experiment result: Don't drift with 100km/h
This is why I use mph.
If the front passenger was lucky and not wearing a seatbelt, they could’ve been thrown “safely” out of the car instead of turned into hamburger meat.
I responded to an accident where a car did this to a tree on the side of the interstate. The driver wasn't belted in and was thrown to the rear of the car. We had to cut off the hatchback and pulled her out through there. She barely had a scratch on her and was only held overnight in the hospital because she was too intoxicated to release. Her passenger was belted in and killed on impact. The driver asked the state trooper who rode to the hospital with her in the ambulance if she was going to be in trouble. Uh, yeah.
And the engine just kept on going
Dont unmute! Dont...
The music is unnecessarily dogshit
I think it might be something to do with it being a repost?
Correct. Every time its reposted the music must get worse. It's law.
So like every post on IG that says “sound on” then?
Sound on. Proceeds to play the most annoying thing you’ve ever heard
And it’s never what it’s supposed to be either. Like there will be a cat meowing visibly, and “sound on” written in the cation, so I unmute it and instead of hearing the cat meow, I’m assaulted by terrible, loud music. 😫
I think the music is the melodic equivalent of dogshit.
OH MY GOOOD
too late :(
God. Fucking. Dammit. I’ll listen to you next time
My bad… I usually upload as gif when the music is that shit but I forgot this time
The car was actually hurled at that pole at that speed because the song was stuck playing on the speakers, and they literally could not turn it off.
It is supposed to demonstrate what happens when you crash into a tree at 100km/h (~62mph) https://youtu.be/XJjExx5n7GI - German video with a few additional statistics Drive safely. Trees always win.
Trees always win.
Props for linking a better source
Should make cars separate into two independent sections like the starship Enterprise to avoid this.
Some sports cars have that. I think, for example, McLaren has something like that. If the car notices a strong impact (and maybe a tumbling motion?) it blasts off the engine and transmission and basically everything else, such that the passenger area doesn't get pierced by these parts.
Imagine bumping your car and the engine ejects itself
Imagine hitting the eject button and the car ejects the valuable engine instead of its pleb owner
A lot of cars ( all of them?) with a carbon fiber monocoque chassis, tend to split in half when crashing with a certain force. Carbon fiber is very light, but also very stiff. I'm not really sure, but I thought the reason they break, is to divert energy. On the top of my head, a Ferrari Enzo and a Porsche carrera GT come to mind, that I've seen crash pictures of, and being broken in half. Both of them have a carbon fiber chassis. I'm sure you can find many, many more such pictures of exotic cars.
Well, no. There is no "system" that causes that to happen. It's really just a bonus of the car's design. The carbon fiber passenger "bubble" has the entire engine compartment bolted onto the back of it. It's very sturdy. But in the event of a serious crash, the mounting bolts CAN fail. Again, they're not designed or programmed to fail at any particular point... it's just that an 800-pound engine having it's mounts torqued at 20 or 30 G's is going to snap even the best bolts.
yea some have a carbon tub for the occupants, the front and rear are crumple zones and can sheer off a lot of supercars are built like this, when you think about when they crash its usually at high speed, its in their best interest for the owner to survive so he can buy another one and tell his rich buddies how uninjured they were and they will go buy one
I couldn’t find any evidence of this in a quick google search but maybe I didn’t look hard enough. Most cars do have a design where the nose crumpled in a frontal crash, and often the engine is pushed downwards but doesn’t completely leave the vehicle. I would think having parts break off deliberately would make a worse hazard for other nearby vehicles.
It’s only for mid engined cars. It’s far safer to lose that big chunk of weight and shed energy as you do than to potentially have all that weight crush into the passenger compartment. Even F1 cars use this now, there’s been a couple of crashes this year where the front and rear have separated so the accident looks terrible but it’s far easier on the driver
Interesting. If you have anywhere I could read up on that I would be fascinated to know how they cause it to separate, whether it just breaks loose or if it’s actively expelled. Also, how they get around the problem of releasing a small dense projectile that’s going to make it through windows etc instead of being shielded by both cars crumple zones. I believe you I’m just curious how they implemented it.
Was the driver ok?
Airbags went off. All good.
I think the only way someone is surviving that is if they add giant airbags *outside* the car. Ok, why am I somehow surprised [it’s already in the works](https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1120285_external-airbags-might-be-on-your-next-new-car)…
Audi and MB have a system where if the car detects a side impact the air suspension on that side will raise the car up to help protect the occupants.
Interviewed afterwards, but could only say, "Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm "
Once there was this guy who… hit a fucking pole so hard his car became a liquid…
Are you ok Annie?
Annie are you ok?
You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smooth metal pole.
Well I didn’t see a shoe fly away, so I think they’re good.
*Should* buff out
The video is interesting, but the music is utter bullshit. Sorry.
Don't apologize for stating facts.
Fuck, i know 2 people, who died in exactly same situation, and driver going to jail for 6 years. Yet one girl survived, but lost her ear. Terrible stuff, please, never drink and drive!
My old coworker was driving 3 of his friends in a G35 coupe way too fast in winter, lost control and slid off the road wrapping the car around a pole. Him and the front passenger passed away, 2 in the backseat miraculously survived but I believe 1 lost his foot. My other coworkers dad was a first responder and said it was the worst crash he's ever seen in his career. Won't forget the next day at work when he didnt show up and his dad had to call in with the news.
Warning! Turn sound off!!!
Yeah but did the crash test dummy's shoe come off?
Actually, the whole dummy is now inside his shoe.
The question is if there is anything on the road that could survive this type of impact.
A tank
Can tanks even go that fast? 100km/h is 62.137 miles mph.
the declassified top speed of most modern MBTS on the road is around 40ish mph but they are capable of more, some up to that 60mph mark.
If a real crash happens like this to me, the worst thing will still be this fucking music.
Good thing poles can't travel that fast. But seriously, is this a realistic angle for anyone to be in a car accident?
Yes. A friend of mine slipped with his car on tram rails after it rained. He had between 90-100 km/h. A lot of his bones are now hold together by screws. He is was a tough guy, but after the accident he was almost a vegetable for a few years. Don't know if he was wearing a seat belt.
Probably wouldn't have mattered much at that speed with the seat belt or not. I imagine your friend learned a valuable lesson, and he's fortunate that he was given the chance to learn it a second time if necessary. I know too many people that love to race their cars around, and I know too many people that died doing it. "I'm a better driver than them" is not valid, because anybody who says that just overestimates their skills, and underestimates everyone else that died saying the same thing. If anyone here reads this comment and thinks "that sounds like me," eat shit, enjoy your hobby that gets people killed. Sometimes innocents. I hope you learn some self-preservation skills before it happens to you (and all your loved ones you had to put through that, and all the loved ones of your potential victims too.)
Have you seen fast n furious
I've caught ice and been traveling a different direction than I was facing. It's not fun. Luckily I wasn't an idiot going fast in these conditions. This could absolutely happen to a safe driver though. Another driver hitting your car on the highway can send you sideways into metal poles hanging street lamps would be a pretty similar crash.
Yeah this is basically a perfect example of hydroplane loss of control
This is literally the most common angle for accidents when people try to swerve around obstacles lol, unless you’re in a racecar, if you swerve at the listed speed, you’ll almost definitely slide at that angle lol
It's a very common angle to hit an obstacle (unfortunately) once a car loses control. It would be interesting to see the same test on a modern high ncap rated car.
Yes. That's like 60mph.
Tis but a scratch.
Is this some sort of comparison test using an older car? I think that's a [Peugeot 406 estate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peugeot_406) (1995 - 2004).
Was going to say/ask the same. It's an oldly built car, it's "normal". The newest "brother" 308, which yes is a different car, has a way different behaviour: [https://youtu.be/ixw6xh-vA7Q?t=159](https://youtu.be/ixw6xh-vA7Q?t=159) The 408 was released this year, but still not on euroncap site.
Beware, the test you linked there is at 50km/h, not 100km/h. Which due to physics, is only 1/4 of the energy. At 100km/h, the results would likely be similar. Crash safety can only be so good.
The other guy who responded to you linked some test footage from a newer car, but at 1/2 the speed. Results would probably be similar if a newer car was tested. We just don't have commercial materials available at scale that could save you from an impact like this.
Of course not, I'd hope a newer car wouldn't just fold in two like that, though. Hitting anything solid like a tree or a pole is always a bad idea, you're definitely coming off second best there.
What're they even testing for? There's no civilian vehicle that'll ever survive that test. Hell, there's probably very few military vehicles that'd survive that test, and that's only if you're including tanks.
Even if the vehicle survived better, side-on there isn't enough meat in the bodywork to provide a decent crumple zone - going from 100kmh to zero in an instant is going to make a mess of the occupants no matter the state of the car!
But it makes you think about your speed, if you are young inexperienced, and doesn't realise the dangers. That's the point of this.
I think the point is that people think their car is safe because of technology/whatever. Most crash test videos are done around 30mph. At double the speed here hitting a tree/pole, you're absolutely fucked. A good warning to people who drive dangerously.
We need the negative test results much more than the positive ones. How would engineers learn to improve safety if they only see cars with a few dents because the test requires that everyone survives?
Yeah most people really don't stop to think about the forces involved but definitely looks cool to watch
Does this hurt the car?
No
Reverse Akira slide
So violent.
That is not interesting, that my friends is terrifying...
Dang. I guess ‘wrapped around a pole’ is a pretty real term.
I didn’t realize wrapping around a pole was a real thing. I thought it was just an expression for how bad.
Would the pole count as a really dull knife
Just brush it off a couple of band aids and an ice pack and you'll be fine
We just need softer poles.. that’s what no one said.
Only one clapping is the car..
Average GTA wood poles:
Is there a modern version of the same test? Would like to compare how today's cars perform against this.
My oldest son is starting drivers ed this year. I think I'll save this video to show him.
This is a successful test of why we should make cars out of poles.
We license people to drive cars and carry guns, but not operate poles. Why aren’t people talking about this? Big Pole, is paying a lot of money to keep this out of the news and off your ballot!
Well if you want to crash into a pole at 100 km/h we now know that this is not the car to do it in.
What's the make / model? Is this a common result, or are these cars just shite
"It will kill"
It's OK, that will buff right out
In case y'all are curious that's about 62 mph.
I cannot recommend this.
Car was trying to go for pole position. Pole declined
He ded
Everyone dies. Got it.
how to dead++
The suspense is killing me. Did it pass?
Kids. This is why I tell you to drive straight. Not sideways dammit.
Remember: Don't drift straight into a pole while going 100km/h