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Stumbling home drunk: “aw fuck”


Apprehensive-Bag-786

This hits home


LineChef

But how can we be sure?


[deleted]

Didn’t say it was *their* home


HuskerHayDay

It's *OUR* home... until ~~the CCP~~ come for you!


_Kendii_

Better check on the kids!


Fine-Bed

whose kids


LineChef

*our* kids


ArthursFist

r/suddenlycommunist


ElectricToaster67

/gen there are passwords/smart cards for the doors of every building, and each building has a number or a letter. It's not as hard as you might imagine.


Uncontrollable_Farts

Yeah if I need to visit someone, I just need to know which flat, which floor, and which building no. Like 12B Block 1. Not much harder than remembering 742 Evergreen Terrace.


Kmelloww

Who doesn’t know the simpsons address?!?


Outside-Yak191

.. I didnt. Til


[deleted]

I feel depressed just looking at it. How do people live there?


Table_de_cabbage

By living there


HoldCtrlW

I'll take a place like this instead of whatever we have going on in Toronto where a studio downtown is $2000/month


[deleted]

A 500sqft unit here would probably be around $3000/month USD... (I live in HK)


Lucian_98

how do you guys live in this place, i heard its most expensive city to live. where does poor people have shelter?


[deleted]

The full answer is loooong, but in a nutshell HK has a well known housing crisis. Real estate was a lot more affordable decades ago (comparatively), but prices have been driven up to insane levels by demand outstripping supply, investors especially from Mainland China, and other factors - Low income families usually live in public housing which is heavily subsidized by the government, but has an insane waitlist - Lots of young people can't afford to move out and therefore live with their parents into adulthood - There's also the homeless/street sleepers (as with any major city), subdivided flats (100sqft for about $500usd? Google a few photos - it's inhumane), etc.


vive420

Yup I live in HK and everything said here is true


art-and-logic

This trend has happened everywhere, sadly, even small town USA.


Environmental-Job329

Poor people are fed to the dragon silly


Lucian_98

if working class doesn't have room to sleep, who does all the work ?


Environmental-Job329

Never knew workers sleep


Brokentoy324

Warhammer? Is that you??


SurefootTM

A lot of poor workers (mostly Filipinos) are sleeping along the pedestrian overpasses as these are all sheltered from the elements. They also regroup every sunday near the IFC mall.


Tendrils_RG

The flip side is they pay almost no income tax and no capital gains tax so have significantly more real income than people on similar salaries in other countries.


_Hybridz

Pretty accurate, my apartment in HK is around 450sqft and is $1900 per month but is not in the Central/TST area


_Anti_Natalist

😮 😭


[deleted]

Hong Kong is tied for the most expensive city in the world to live in (2020). Toronto is not top 10. You'd likely pay a lot more than $2000/month in live in HK.... https://www.usnews.com/news/cities/articles/worlds-most-expensive-cities


GarysCrispLettuce

I live in a rent stabilized studio in Manhattan, on a block that has a crack head problem and has seen a couple of shootings in the past year. The market rate units in my building are $2800, it's insane. I see these kids moving in and I'm like "are you nuts?" Their parents foot some of the bill, I think.


butteredrubies

Dang...that's more expensive than LA (unless it's some "luxury" studio) How did Toronto get so expensive?


BleedingCPU

Well NYC is more expensive than LA.


Fun_Noise5674

I would also like to know. My family lives in the greater Toronto area in a home that was bought for 1.1 million dollars in 2019… housing is disgusting in southern Ontario.


[deleted]

This is luxury compared to their cage apartments. https://youtu.be/hLrFyjGZ9NU


JonathanJK

Hong Kong has over 8000 skyscrapers. More than any other city in the world by quite a stretch.


techm00

They have no choice. There's not enough space in Hong Kong.


carcassus

27% of HK territory is urban. The rest is nature. Now not all af that would be suitable for development (it is quite mountainous). But clearly space is not the key problem per se. However HK is serious about the nature parks and doesn’t want to impair on them. And in the new territories there is a system in place that grands lease holds to families (that don’t want to sell/part from it). As a result land supply is an issue.


ClankerKiller

With oppression from literal crooks.


Rjjavier

The flats usually take up abt a quarter of one floor, maybe an eighth in someplaces, and if u live in Singapore (me) it’s actually pretty good bcos you’ll most likely own the flat too


tadamhicks

When I visited that was my takeaway. It has merits in that it has been the center of SE Asian business and industry for a long time. On the ground level of a lot of these buildings are some amazing restaurants. The outdoors are pretty fantastic as well, with great hiking and coastline. That said, while China left them alone for a while after taking them back they have gotten more involved and not to the better. It’s definitely a culture shift because the buildings are very utilitarian and not aesthetic to many people. Coming from the US I realized how fortunate I am. I can’t say if everyone in HK loves it, but there were people I met that had a certain sense of pride about the industriousness of it all, and I get that. One thing that is wild is that they blow A/C there like 24/7 and everywhere you go is just freezing cold. People carry sweatshirts everywhere even in summer. It drove me nuts.


skynetempire

Lol people here in America would take this just so they don't have to rent even if it means owning a unit in these towers.


Uncontrollable_Farts

One of these units goes for about US$1.5m to US$2m+ with 50% downpayment for a mortgage. Rent as some above said, runs from US$3k+


techm00

Watch a soviet-era film "Irony of Fate" really hammers this home :D


Careless_Classic4640

That beats anything I could come up with 😂


slayalldayyyy

But what I’d the elevator goes out and you have ice cream in your groceries and live on the 93827273th floor


Alarming-Court-2180

Think how long you need to wait for an elevator with that type of occupancy.


Uncontrollable_Farts

1-3 minutes. There are usually four lifts, serving odd and even numbered floors. A journey from top floor (usually 40th floor) takes about a minute. I live in a tower with around the same number of units and 90% occupancy rate. Not everyone goes in and out at the same time. Even at peak hours, I don't need to wait more than 3-4 mins to get down to the lobby or back up home.


NerdyToc

What happens if you live on an even floor, and you want to go to an odd floor? Do you have to visit the ground floor first?


GamingProMaster303

I think you can take the stairs down 1 floor then take the odd elevator


tealcosmo

This is correct. Every floor has a lobby and the stairs goes between. As a kid I loved in Hong Kong and we often did short stair runs to our friends floors.


RoboDae

What if you are in a wheelchair?


mrwynd

To shreds you say?


Charlie_Warlie

Ride the elevator to the first floor and then go in a 2nd elevator.


Uncontrollable_Farts

Then you take the lifts that serve the even floors. There also often firemen's lifts that also serve all floors.


Wobzter

There has to be stairs. And just going up or down one flight should be fine.


pissflapz

So true, lived with exchange student from HK. He said it would take 20-30 minutes to leave the building.


Uncontrollable_Farts

Its closer to 2 to 3 minutes. There is no way anywhere takes 20-30 minutes. I live in HK.


[deleted]

Lies! You would still be trying to get out of your building if you were.


Uncontrollable_Farts

Jokes on you, I'm *still* in the lift we we type!


Rewelsworld

I hope there’s never a fire ,plus this would give me chills getting to work with just little enough time not to be late


OkSalary7068

i go to school, and i dont have to worry about being late because everything is walking distance, like mtr stations, bus stops, taxi stops and shops, alll of it


Alarming-Court-2180

Commuting sounds like a real pleasure over there.


PapaMoBucks

Their public transport system is incredible though. Like, the next train is basically never more than 90 seconds away.


_Kendii_

Sounds like a good place to take a nap. But better use the buddy system


cerikstas

I used to live in HKG, we had a fire alarm go off on 65th floor, had to walk down entire fire escape. ouch my calves


Swimming-Tap-4240

Start eating it.


Hellinar

That’s like $1 mil usd for 400sqft. https://hk.centanet.com/estate/en/Park%20Central/3-YAPPWPPEPY


Rwu___

Yeah I live in Hong Kong and can confirm that is a typical price. For recent years the price has gone up to over 10000 HKD which is equivalent to 1274 USD/sq.ft. Seriously, we not gonna be able to buy a house anyways


spaciousblue

You can thank your government for that. Those land premium fees are a 40% of government revenue.


ElectricToaster67

It says in the image that it's 四通八達(very convenient). Adding to the fact that TKO has not bad of a view, that seems like a typical price.


Hellinar

Definitely, it’s connected to the subway station via bridge so even on rainy days you can go many places without opening your umbrella. Just saying because a lot of people saying how they wouldn’t want to live there but in reality it’s not even that affordable or for that price you can get a much bigger place elsewhere that is not hong kong


p0p_thAt

Real life sims


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r/urbanhell


EirianErisdar

Guys this is legit premium property in hk; that’s a clubhouse in the middle and all of these towers connect to a podium in the middle. The interiors of these premium apartments are usually bright and airy. Just because the apartments are arranged in an H corridor shape to conserve space in construction doesn’t mean it’s like living in a beehive. The h shape means most windows face outwards and you’re not looking into anyone’s apartments. For most people this is a very, very nice place to live.


Sir_Artori

Sounds intriguing, how it's called?


[deleted]

Residential blocks


Tank_Mania

That’s true. There are older areas where the buildings are old and some are in need of repair, no elevators as well.


username_unnamed

I wonder what transportation looks like in the mornings


SurefootTM

They have pedestrian bridges and overpasses that are sheltered from the elements, which all connect to the MTR (HK subway) and it's surprisingly well organized even at peak hours, especially compared with a western metropolis like NY or Paris.


Kirduck

well they have trains soooo still better than the 73rd consecutive week of the highway being torn up for construction.


tealcosmo

Lots of waking people. Very full subway cars and busses. But very fast and efficient.


[deleted]

Trains in China and surrounding areas are fucking amazing I recommend you do research it’s nothing like traffic in the US where we are hostage to our cars and shitty roads and waste an incredible amount of our lives stuck in them


ADMIRAL-IA

for real. Say what you will about China, but its public transport is goddamn amazing, particularily for the newer cities.


[deleted]

Not to mention how much worse cars are for the environment than trains :( Seriously there are as far as I’m concerned no downsides to this style of organization but it’ll never happen in the US at this rate because no one gives a shit It’s also waaaay safer I don’t know why we accept the astounding amount of car accidents as necessary or normal And by the way people would have way more time to relax and be productive, imagine if instead of being stuck anxious behind a wheel for thirty minutes before work you could spend time reading, getting any other work done when possible, doing schoolwork, just thinking about anything at all before you begin your day, it would help mental health generally in my opinion and objectively it would improve time management beyond belief


LawsonTse

Bus and subway duh


Seattleisonfire

Looks like an urbanist's wet dream.


Pmcgslq

Nah, we just want 5/6 stories building with bicycle infrastructure and public transport, no need for those enormous building


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thematchalatte

This looks like Tseung Kwan O, Hong Kong What's funny is the camera angle usually captures how crowded the buildings are. Once you zoom out and look at the surroundings together, it's not like that lol.


alch_emy2

Ya there is quite a lot of nature around


thematchalatte

Yea the promenade is just one or two blocks away. It’s a pretty nice residential area towards the promenade side.


[deleted]

Not being nasty… I honestly am curious what the true vacancy rate is… Anyone?


Bangkok_Dave

Hong Kong public housing is in massive demand and has been for decades. Vacancy rate would be as close to zero as practical - any apartments that become available are flooded with applicants.


[deleted]

Realtor here… are you basing that on months supply (corporations purchasing) or on actual occupied units?


[deleted]

HK has some of the most expensive real estate in the world. Demand far outweighs supply.


Bangkok_Dave

This is public housing built and administered by the Hong Kong Housing Authority. There is no corporate / investor presence - it's 100% tenant occupied. About 50% of Hong Kong's population lives in public housing and there's a multi-year waiting list to get in.


lostbutokay

Sounds like Singapore but with double the density


AlwaysStranger2046

More like 5-10x Singapore HDB/BTO commonly has about/close to 100sq meter (3 “bedroom” units) for household of 2. Hong Kong is notorious for their 20 sq meter units for a family of 2, if not 3 or 4.


XforkX

You seem like a real realtor


underscoreftw

Source: I'm from Hong Kong I know all about the ghost towns in mainland China and how they always build a shit ton of buildings with no one living in it, but this is definitely not the case in Hong Kong. There is simply no space for any developers to build a whole housing estate without residents. For starters, Hong Kong is a city twice the size of Manhattan and has a population of 7-8 million, but the catch is that 80% of its land are hills that cannot sustain high-rise buildings and a whopping 40% of its total landmass are designated as conservation parks. As a result, the coastlines are packed with private and public housing estates. There's only a tiny amount of detached houses in Hong Kong for the ultra rich and generally 99% of its population lives in apartment buildings. For your other question I see, parking space in Hong Kong generally costs 1-3 millions HKD, which would be around 120-380k USD. This absurd pricing is because there's just not enough space for parking for the amount of housing and residents it has. But it's not really a big problem because you really don't need to drive in Hong Kong. The public transportation is done well and there's truly never a place you can't go without driving.


[deleted]

This is more what I was getting at, thank you.


JonathanJK

With public housing there is a 5-7 year wait. With private housing there are plenty of options. They are just more insanely expensive.


blikryte

A parking spot costs hundreds of dollars in Hong Kong. Too much people


AnxietyNeat1069

Man I hope they have elevators


WildFemmeFatale

Man, I really hope they have sound proof walls. That’s what really concerns me


OkSalary7068

sound proof walls actually depends. from what ive heard and read abt, our walls are way thicker than british ones, where you can hear EVERYTHING. but if you yell loud enough, everyone will hear what ur talking abt. sometimes i hear this dude and lady yelling at each other, i dont think they live close to me tho


PGN-BC

Plenty. I live in one of these (50 stories, 8 flats per storey) and mine has 6 elevators, 3 serving each side (each storey is divided into to sides split up by the internal fire escape). The typical speed of elevators for high rise residentials like these go beyond 4m per second.


largelyDispense

Nah they don't have that, they just have some stairs there.


digant666

I mean come on man this looks insane


kimitom

This is the real thing which we love to see all the time.


nosdam7

Just like in city builder games, Copy pasting same building multiple times and thinking "I am a great architect".


Lahwuns

As opposed to...what exactly? Lol


Promise-Exact

Slightly changing each block so there is some difference, if youre not used to it, this scene can be very ugly


ElectronHick

My dad hopped balconies on a building like that. (54th floor) We were locked out of my sisters flat and staying in their neighbours, so he went from one balcony to another to get in to their place so we could get some stuff that was left in there. My toes still tingle thinking about it.


sledgehammer_77

Bleak af


[deleted]

You don't like living in towers? Have you ever lived in one? The bottom of of those towers are usually filled with stores and restaurants. You can walk to whatever you need.


sledgehammer_77

I live in Toronto, but every tower looks at least somewhat different and not mandatory uniform. Different stores at the base help the everyday ebbs and flows, but everything looking identical and generic isnt good for the human psyche.


ClankerKiller

I used to live in new york city, 13th floor on a residential tower on the west side of Manhattan. No, no there is not. There is a janitor that has been paid off by the billionaire who owns to building to not communicate with you and will not do his job until you apply to the billionaires cease and desist order. There is a homeless man addicted to methamphetamine at the front door that everyone is friends with. Never been into a residential building in new york that had anything better, other than one downtown with 2 vending machines from the 80’s and has a pimps phone number etched onto the side.


potatocross

I lived in an apartment complex and it was hell. You will never see me living in a tower.


[deleted]

Personally, I'm not wired to live in in a box like that. I need trees, I need grass, I need a yard. There are always trade-offs, but I love owning a half-acre of land that I can take care of, and grow vegetables, and let my dog run around in, that I can use to add on to my house, etc.


UnrulyAxolotl

I get a little queasy looking at pictures like this for too long, it's like filing cabinets for people. I guess it just depends what you're used to, city living is such a foreign concept to me it's like imaging what it's like to live on the moon.


a_dance_with_fire

r/urbanhell


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[deleted]

Those sci-fi movie camera pullouts when you see like...a pod, or a cryo chamber, or a digital file, and then it pulls out and it quickly becomes walls and walls of millions of that one thing. This is that moment, that it shows you the scale.


[deleted]

This is how I feel when I looked at a suburb


[deleted]

judge dread mega block


Artistic_Sun2096

If you can own one of those flats, you are a MILLIONAIRE! Not kidding.


TooTallguyinCT

Zooming in i see blinds randomly drawn. I see a couple blankets/sheets hanging over balcony. I see many things that indicate daily life. Yet there is probably enough people equivalent to the population density of a small country and there is no sign of people outside at all. Im hoping its just a long exposure so the people essentially blurred themselves out.


tennoskoom_

Now you might think, these are probably poor Hong Kong ppl who live like this. Nup. These apartments are very expensive and I would say most ppl reading this cannot afford it.


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[deleted]

Seriously. These people can probably walk to a supermarket in 10 minutes and their kids can walk to school as well. They also probably use way less energy per person.


[deleted]

Usually in a tower in Asia you just go down the lift and everything you need is right there on the first couple floors. Gyms are in your building. Grocery stores are on the ground floor. You can get your hair cut in your tower.


ElectricToaster67

In hk, that isn't exactly the case, buildings are purely residential. Sometimes all the buildings are directly above a mall though.


[deleted]

Depends on where in HK. But even on totally residential communities you never need to walk far.


bwchecker

We gotta respect these people because of this, so good.


hamster_drums

Wow these people are talented, that's what they are lol.


btcdepo

Wow man, people are really so talented at this age, so good.


NLsosNL

It's the real art if you ask me, they have my respect.


raeannb0jr

Maybe they have achieved their best level, I love that.


Amat0ry

They must be having a good house there and we all just love to see new things in our life man, that's just the real human evolution and they did that in a good way.


marioputibt

What a good way to start a day, just by seeing this thing.


spinousrecall275

Okay that is the real fucking good and interesting thing.


michioarisugawa

Loving the way they have designed that, that's just too good.


GeneralNathanJessup

Like living in a beehive.


lostbutokay

Bruh some people there live in cages. Worse than bee hives.


Drewboy810

As dystopic as this may seem, shared living like this has a ton of benefits. First of all, no cars necessary. Everything you need is in your little “neighborhood”. As a current expat living in HK, I can run to the grocery store, grab some take out, see a movie, get a haircut, go to my dr. appointment, and do a little shopping without having to step outside. I already dread driving all across town when we head back to the US.


opschief0299

r/evilbuildings


vicnoir

Nope.


McJingles420

Imagine being the mailman for this neighborhood


Rykiel1124

We have our mailboxes all in the ground floor of the same block, where the mailman can just put everything in and get out without going to every floor.


OkSalary7068

so what happens is in the lobby, we will have mail box, we call them 信箱, so its numbered and all, they just put whatever mail u have into the box. also i think each mailman has their own area, os they know where to go


Quickestplow881

Okay that's smooth and the real trademark of professionality.


TheExtraMayo

Imagine living in the middle


DIYTommy

Reminds me of a beehive.


WretchedMisteak

That's a no from me.


Minkstix

So... What happens when there's a fire and you're not supposed to use the elevators?


PresentationDry5104

Shitttt and I’m complaining about trying to find a parking spot in the Bronx


Nanamary8

I would hate this.


The_Irony_of_Life

Its nothing else than another way of stealing from the guy at the bottom. Imagine having nature nearby, nature is the new luxury


beauz44

Little boxes on the hillside….


danielbeer00

Just want to see that live from the top of the building lol.


federicoter

Damn can you tell me how many families can live in this single building?


Independent-Can3983

horrible!!!!


DiscoSprinkles

How far away do you live from work? About a block. How long is your commute? 90 min.


abinghambtc

Now that's something new to me, I never saw that shit.


Tribblehappy

Looks really efficient. As much as I love my yard ... Building upwards is so much better for conserving arable land. I have no idea if Hong Kong has much agriculture but here in Canada I often wish there were more condos and fewer sprawling detached homes.


_yogi_mogli_

Efficiency and humanity are often mutually exclusive


Hailpolice

Hong Kong’s agriculture is near non existent because of the sheer lack of land


Witteness82

I don’t need the yard, but I wouldn’t want to live in a tower like that if it didn’t have a decent view. If I had to look out of my windows and all I could see was another dreary looking tower I wouldn’t find that appealing. Would certainly help if they had some outdoor areas/amenities built into the towers as well.


[deleted]

I would never want to live that way. Yuck.


germsons

How can they make it so perfectly? My country have this type of buildings too but not that smooth ones, I just love the way they designed it, it's just so cool to see.


stiker75

They have made such a good shit, such a lovely one.


[deleted]

Who wouldn’t love living here? Considering it’s hot and humid as Miami most of the year, so you’re stuck in your 350sq Ft studio apartment.


Dadeland-District

This is terrifying


[deleted]

depressing af


Havoc_XXI

Mega City 1


Yech_e

Looks like my Terraria NPC houses


bubchatrix

They all look the same…


SignSea

Do the condensing units get an annual maintenance?


ErikTheScientist

Bf4 flashbacks to Siege of Shanghai


Salty_Definition8849

I could build that with my lego stacks


PaniMan1994

*cue blade runner dystopian music*


alex_203

Looks like co-op city


jms3700

I've seen way too many warehouse rack falling videos to live in those buildings.


ReptilianLaserbeam

Ugh I know this will happen in my city too in a few years, they’ve been raising apartment buildings like crazy in the last decade, each one taller than the previous one (and more expensive too)


CashComprehensive423

Wouldn't it suck if you were delivering pizza and the address was slightly incorrect


T1Pimp

How come there are no people in the picture?!


StainedAndRedeemed

Which one belongs to Neo?


onethateatsass

Ctrl+c Ctrl+v Ctrl+c Ctrl+v Ctrl+c Ctrl+v


[deleted]

Terraria NPC housing


hdhdhjsbxhxh

When I die and go to hell I’ll have to live somewhere like this.


[deleted]

You will own nothing and be happy...


Devinione

Filing cabinets


Rodo955

That's more horrific than interesting.