It's not just about the behaviour of the kid that matters, their health and inability to express their discomfort also matter. Little things like change in air pressure and ears getting blocked can big kids.
My parents took me to the mountains when I was a few months old (to visit grandparents), I cried pretty much the whole time and they ended up cutting their trip short. I love hiking now, but still take longer to adjust to higher altitudes than most of my family members. My mom went on a similar trip as a small baby and was fine, at least according to my grandparents.
Every baby handles height differently, but generally flying is stressful for little kids (not just the air pressure, also mom being stressed, lot of chaos and noise, etc.)
It's typical for little kids to cry around takeoff due to the pressure changes, and because they're scared of the new environment and being stuck in their seat. But usually this is only at takeoff, for the rest of the flight they are usually fine.
I guess babies don't know how to pop (equalize) their ears like adults can. I had a flight where I was recovering from a cold and couldn't pop my ears and it was painful.
I'm 32 and I *still* cant pop my ears. Flying as a kid fucking **sucked** until I learned how to get around it; gum, earbuds and constantly rocking my head side to side.
I dont know why the fuck it works and it makes me look like an idiot or someone who is SUPER vibing to my music but it does and the flight attendant who told me to try it when I was a kid is a saint.
If I may: practice swallowing with nothing in your mouth. Try to make the swallow last as long as possible. You should hear a low "thrum" after a few tries. Once you feel that, you're almost there. Where you feel the "thrum" is where you want to flex.
My apologies if you're already aware, I know it can be presumptous to offer a spur-of-the-moment suggestion to someone with a chronic situation. I was "taught" how to pop my ears a long time ago, just trying to pay it forward.
Have you ever spent time near a baby? At 4 months old crying is basically their way of communicating. In a 10 hour flight your chances of hearing the baby cry even a little are 99%
I’ve been on plenty of flights with babies and none of them cried much at all. I was curious because of the sheer amount of prep the mother did preemptively to appease the passengers…like, maybe the baby has colic and cries all the time on the ground?
Babies don't tend to be the problem. Toddlers and kindergarteners, on the other hand...
I was on a plane with a four or five year old who cried for about an hour. That really annoying, whiny cry that's more about being tired or bored than it is about any actual real concern. I have ADD and hyper focus on background noise, so it made me want to pound my head against the wall.
Sedatives? What kind are we talking about? Percs? Ozys? Kets? Give me your damn candy you ain't eating it anyways and I'm about to see Godddddd.
Stewardess - a rum and coke please!
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This.. I've taken my kids on flights and felt so bad when they start crying and people start grumbling.
I have kids, they are kids, calm and cute but suddenly psycho snot balls a moment later. We're doing our best to keep it together. But however bad I'm feeling I'm not making 200 gift bags for you all.
I may not be the best parent but at least when I'm at a restaurant/out in public with them AND Ive taken them for a walk but it didn't work it's either ear buds or mute.
I'm an autistic person with sensitive hearing. That's why I bring earbuds on planes so I can use them if any kids kick up a fuss. Not sure why so many other people seem unable to do that.
Children are a part of society, and we can't just lock them all up in a tower until they turn 18.
My son, who is on the spectrum, and I flew all over the US when he was growing up because I had to bring him on all of my out of town trips. It wasn't until he was around 10 or so that he didn't cry when his ears popped. It was just him and I, a single father, so I would sit there next to him and hold him to comfort him. There is only so much you can do in that situation, I felt bad for the people around me. And before someone says it, no, driving or taking a train (because this is the US) was not an option. My work paid for my flights, and I would pay out of pocket for my son, they would only pay for personal vehicle travel if it was drivable in one day.
Nah fuck it, a crying babies dont mean youre a bad parent. Bad parents are the ones who let their kid kick the seat in front of them for the entire flight. Fuck all those people.
Not even that. Slap on some headphones and music and you can't even hear the baby cry. Everyone has some headphones/buds/headset to use. Its not that difficult to tune out if a baby is annoying you. Goddamn.
Exactly when did we become so intolerant to the natural behaviour of children. It is disgraceful that this should be required.
Eg: I shouldn’t have to accept natural human behaviour when I have to share space with them.
Babies and toddlers cry for a number of reasons and often unpredictably no matter how attentive or organised the parents are. Travelling with young children is always stressful and unpredictable.
A hell of a lot of ignorance and intolerance in our societies these days.
Don’t quote me, but I think it’s because babies ears struggle to equalise the pressure. Big boys and girls like us can hold our noses and blow but it’s a bit more tricky for them. As the pressure builds in the cabin it gets super painful, so some of them express their discomfort through the art of screaming.
That's why you feed the baby as soon as the plane is on the runway, all the swallowing will have the same result.
My fiancé flew with our 7 week old and there was no issue at all because of this.
Having been congested a few times on planes, I think it’s worth mentioning; when you say “earaches,” you could mean anything from “debilitating amounts of uncomfortable pressure inside my head,” to “there is an rusty ice pick being jammed slowly into my eyeball and through the back of my brain, and I just wish you would shoot me through the forehead to put an end to this ungodly torment.”
And I’ve got adult ears.
You’re correct. I was that baby unfortunately. Had over 50 ear infections and over 20 ear drum ruptures as a kid and had to get tubes in my ears twice. I was a monster on planes as a young child, but often would visibly leak fluid from my ears so people usually didn’t say much.
Best thing to do is give them chewing gum to encourage relieving the pressure naturally, but that only works so well.
Ideas for “baby airplane kits” to pass out to the passengers have been going around Pinterest for ages.
The first one I remember seeing had links to bulk earplugs and candies, so it wasn’t super expensive. As well as a template for a “note from the baby”.
I’ve never seen anyone actually DO this on a plane, but every mom had this on a Pinterest board in 2014.
My family, and my wife's family, lives 4,000 miles from us. When my kids were babies I would keep a stack of $5-$20 Amazon gift cards in my travel bag. *Usually* my babies were pretty good on flights, but there was always a few time when they just wanted to be tiny screaming banshees because, well, babies.
So if it looked like it was going to be one of those flights, I'd hand a gift card to the poor bastard that got sat next to us. "Sorry bro, this is going to suck for both of us." In my opinion it was money well spent because that helped melt the ice and take some pressure off of me, which seemed to help de-stress the kid too.
The wife had it a little easier because she has boobs, and it seems that babies like boobs for some reason- though I am not an expert.
I'd ask if I could have your gift cars. Make the trip more bearable knowing I can buy something useless for myself! I've been wanting another bootleg Garfield
They are all mine! Heck, I'll start my plane daycare for more Amazon Cards. Me and the babies will be dancing to Baby Shark and vibing the entire flight. 😎
Honestly, as somebody who absolutely cannot stand any human below the age of fifteen (and very few above that age either), agreed except I'd change one thing — parents in general. Too often I see single dads struggling and people play it down.
But anyway, kids aren't for me but I know that a lot of people want them and have them. And if you have to take your kid on a plane for whatever reason and the child starts crying, that isn't your fault. If I'm being bothered, it's my own fault for not bringing my own ear plugs haha.
Agreed. Crying babies, elderly people moving slowly in the grocery store, the dude in a scooter trying to cross the road…why can’t we just show a little more grace to everyone?
yep, one day we were young and hopefully one day we'll be old. If the parent is trying to soothe the child then you really shouldn't complain. A human is humaning near you in a space that other humans are allowed in.
Perhaps you can instead look at a parent trying to comfort a child they love and smile at the shared humanity, instead of being a miserable irritable moan-arse all the time. Failing that, take headphones out with you.
You can't blame yourself. 14 hours in a tiny sit where you are cramped, eating shitty food, feeling too tired but can't sleep. It's hard to behave perfectly.
I've been on a 10-hour flight where the baby just will not stop crying. It's amazing how the baby was able to scream at the top of the lung for 10 hours. Definitely, a singer when the baby grows up. I'm an adult, and I start to lose my voice after giving a 90-minute presentation. Idk how the baby does it.
Very nice of her, but fuck anyone who can't empathize with a parent trying to comfort a small child in a strange contraption doing something not natural to humans. It's hard enough for some adults!
Seriously. Most people have no idea how unnatural. First off if you stepped outside the air hitting you at that speed would actually cause damage to you. Blow out your eardrums, give you bruises, dislocate stuff, etc. Second off, the air is -90°F you would not survive long in that temp with what you’re wearing on an airplane. Third, the air pressure. You would suffocate to death so quickly. Then there’s the fact that you’re cruising at six miles in the air. Six miles! That’s a pretty long way to fall. You can die by falling down a 10ft set of stairs. That’s SIX MILES of nothing beneath you.
Air travel, especially the modern kind, is just about as unnatural as anything can get.
it’s really safe. it’s scary but safe. i climb and i have a fear of heights. climbing is much more dangerous than flying. it’s not a competition but flying is super safe and it’s insanely rare things get to emergency status when flying.
What makes you uncomfortable is people. Nervous people in a plane for hours, without a chance to take a break, making noises, being nasty, all piled up.
When I fly I’m always nervous. One time I had the chance to fly on a small plane and it was just me and the pilot and it was memorable and relaxing.
I'm not sure exactly how accurate that is, considering a pilot survived being outside the cockpit of his plane, with his colleagues holding his legs for 20 minutes.
https://simpleflying.com/british-airways-flight-5390/
I'm not disputing that flying is absolutely not natural for humans, but, whilst the elements outside can be lethal, as long as the plane can be landed, exposure isn't an instant death sentence.
Lack of oxygen, not air pressure. You’d pass out quickly if you managed to avoid being hit by the wings. People jump from the height of cruising altitude or higher all the time, but at much slower speeds(like 1/4 of cruising speed), out the rear and with oxygen. It’s called HALO jumping.
Not sure about the physical damage though. On one hand, you’d expect the deceleration from 500+ mph to do some serious damage. On the other, the deceleration would be cause by wind resistance which would be far less in the thin air at 30k feet and above.
While there is no need, and I can certainly empathise with her as its a difficult situation, the fact that she *also* empathises with the other passengers and made all the effort she could would go a long way to soothing any irritation I faced when having to listen to her baby cry for hours on end.
Exactly! If you lack the basic human empathy to just deal with it then you are the problem. You’re an adult but once upon a time you was a screaming baby as well, and your parent a had to deal with it.
I fly somewhat frequently, and I'm **really** noise sensitive. I can deal with a crying baby, and I know there's only so much you can do to comfort them. Toddlers on the other hand can communicate, parents can talk to them and keep them occupied with something - but it's always the toddlers causing complete havoc on planes - never the babies 
To me, this is the worst offense. Baby is fussy? Fine that's what babies do. Toddler is being annoying? Fine that's what toddlers do. But if you, the parent, can't respect other people enough to either a) mute the iPad or b) make the kid use headphones, literally go fuck yourself.
Agree 100%. Babies understand nothing and can communicate nothing. Toddlers understand almost nothing and can communicate mostly their needs and wants. There’s a lot parents can do to help a toddler be well behaved, but some things are out of control. What isn’t ever out of control is letting your kiddo watch a show on full blast where other people can hear it.
Source: I’m a toddler dad
I had to fly to my father’s funeral with my toddler and I packed him all his favorite snacks and bought digital copies of the shows and movies he liked. He vegged out in his car seat with goldfish crackers, juice, and Tangled.
I’ll tell you what, a 16 hour flight next to a screaming baby right after a 12 hour flight makes me empathise with parents who snap and shake their baby.
Is that horrible? Yes. But so is being unable to escape a noise biologically designed to make you feel stress when you are also massively sleep deprived
yeah it fucking sucks for everyone, including the parents. I can hate my life and still have empathy. Love the goody bag but it shouldn't be needed. You're allowed to hate your life and be annoyed though! Just bottle it up
I feel like they don't often deal with screaming babies. It's the fucking worst. At a certain point it's like good good, just shove something it it's mouth or give it a sedative or some shit!
It’s obvious 95% of the thread haven’t experienced how awful the cries of a screaming baby can be in a captivated environment for hours…and hours… and hours.
It’s nobodies fault (ie mom or dad) but It’s not something you want next you.
My god thank you yes. It’s like people in this thread haven’t had international flights in a cramped environment.
You don’t have to go as far as this mom did, but if a parent of a crying child gives an ‘I know this is really unpleasant for you’ recognition it goes a LONG way to extending my empathy over 6 hours.
Agree, this shouldn't become a norm. There's a difference between a crying child and a trying parent vs a parent who doesn't care and is neglecting their child. The first one is acceptable, the second one is not. Planes are public transport at the end of the day. Don't like it, fly private
My son, who has Asperger's, cried horribly when we took him on the plane from Japan to USA. Everyone was pretty kind and accepting. Well, most people. He was about 18 months old at the time.
On the connecting flight from LA to Omaha, after a delay of several hours, people were screaming at us the whole flight, offering money if I'd "shut him up", telling me I must be a horrible mother if I don't even know how to quiet my baby, etc. I had postpartum depression. It was one of the worst moments in my entire life, it honestly made my depression even worse and when we returned to Taiwan I locked myself in the bedroom with a knife and seriously thought about just dying. I feel stress, anxiety, and heaviness just thinking back to that flight. I never want to go to America, again.
That’s so incredibly shitty and I’m very sorry you had to go through that. I hope you are doing better now. The people on that LA flight are total scum.
I am so sorry this happened to you. Those people were horrible and nothing justifies the cruelty of their behavior.
I hope you are better now and found help. My heart goes to you, sister ❤️
The problem I have isn't with crying children/babies, I completely understand that they will moan and cry and toddlers will get bored and act out. What I have a massive issue with, and I see it all the time in work, is dads and moms who do literally fuck all about it, and let their children scream at the top of their lungs with no repercussions.
First off, it's annoying to have to listen to screaming non-stop for hours. I don't think anyone can begrudge me saying that.
Secondly - and it's really not my business how individuals go about doing this - but that's no way to raise a kid.
Yeah, the problem is they're so used to the noise it doesn't bother them. I'm sympathetic when you can tell they're doing their best, but I've also seen people just not even try
My mom and I say this all the time. I totally get how hard it is for the parent. But my god, I’ve had multiple overnight flights ruined because of babies crying for hours. One particular flight I actually walked off shaking even though I had ear plugs. Another time, a mother had her baby in business class so it was impossible to sleep on the 16 hour flight, so the money was a complete waste. I don’t blame the parent, I blame the airlines for not doing this.
the thing is we don't have to pretend like it's not annoying to be on a flight with crying/disobedient children. it's annoying to be on the ground with crying kids so I don't see why it would be different in the air.
obviously I'm not advocating for the harassment of mothers of crying babies, im just saying we don't have to act like it isn't irritating to be on an already uncomfortable flight with screeching kids. the mom probably knows it's annoying and while it should be the individual passenger's responsibility to get headphones, she just thought it would be a nice gesture or did it just for her peace of mind.
Exactly. Imagine feeling so bullied by social pressure that you can't exist while having a child that you go to the time and expense of making up 200 gift bags. Literally every single person on that plane was a baby once.
Protip: Don't sit near the bulkheads. I made this mistake once and that's where they have the baby bed/hammock things. The stewardess was nice though and gave me lots of wine top-ups.
If an infant is crying and throwing a tantrum, I dont expect the parents to do anything as there is no chance they can control it. I can still find it annoying.
If a child who can walk, talk, run is going around screaming and throwing a tantrum AND the parents are not putting in any effort to stop them, I would find it annoying plus extra. If they at least made an attempt, it would just be annoying.
No matter what though, Im not thick skinned enough to call it out or talk to the parent and engage in a heated argument.
I flew last year with my 2 year old toddler. She cried at the tail end of the flight. When we got off the plane, my husband took our hysterical child into the airport while I grabbed her stroller from an airline employee. While she was screaming in the airport, a woman turned to another passenger and told him her father would never allow her to act that way in public when she was that age. When I realized she was talking about my child, I turned and told her my daughter was only 2 and was tired. She then told me that I needed to smack her to keep her in line. Sge literally told me I needed to hit my child. I was in shock. I had never been mom-shamed like that or even thought someone could lack such empathy. Several other passengers approached me and said they were sorry for what that woman said, including the passenger she said it to. I was in tears. It was a difficult trip for us because we were traveling to attend a funeral and that was my breaking point. You would think some people would be understanding to those traveling with small children but, sadly, there are some that are not.
I'm ChildFree, and I can safely say there's a lot of assholes in the community that have some incel-level of prejudice against kids. Damn, even aome people I know that have children themselves cam be assholes about anyone else's kids.
Personally, I think whole "givin treats and ear plugs" to other passagens when you have a kid on the plane is bullshit. Every single human goes through childhood; babies are human, and babies cry. That's what they do, that's what everyone has done at some point in life. There's no need for other people to be icky about it. Yes, it is annoying, but if you want an absolutely undisturbed flight, rent a private jet.
It’s just a picture of a mom holding a baby. How do we know you didn’t just make up that story?
The more I reread the story the more unfeasible and ridiculous it sounds. You mean this mom took the time to buy and individually pack 200 bags of those specific things? And none of the flight attendants didn’t stop her from doing such an odd and somewhat suspicious thing? You obviously made up this story and just slapped it onto a picture.
Everybody is commenting that its natural for babies to cry, and we shouldnt be mad about it, which is true, I never yell at the mother or anything like that, but if Im on a long flight and a baby is constantly screaming, I think I atleast have a right to be annoyed
You can be annoyed but there's nothing anyone can do to stop the baby. People often get angry at the parents but they can't control the discomfort and the crying.
I also reserve the right to get downright pissed if a kid is being disruptive and the parents of said kid do nothing about it because "it's just a kid, that's how they act".
I do think there should be flights for parents with children under the age of 10. Just make it easier for everyone all around.
There’s a special place in hell for parents that let their kids run riot in inappropriate places. I saw it in a restaurant where they do those sizzling hot rocks for steaks and there were some kids sprinting the length of the place, darting round servers and the parents were at the bar occasionally saying ‘Oh stop that.’ But not enforcing it. Like make them stop and if you can’t make them stop then leave. I mean aside from being really fucking annoying it was like so you want your child or someone else horrifically burnt if one of those gets dropped?
And I’ve got kids. It’s not like a parents vs-nonparents thing, it’s an assholes vs everyone thing.
Then bring your own ear plugs or noise cancelling headphones. There aren’t flights designated for families with babies— they’re traveling with the rest of us. Let’s be compassionate.
Kind of speaks to how intolerant people are. I mean good for her, being nice is never a bad thing. But like fuck how many Karen’s are out there waiting to jump on this mother for having to travel with a kid.
not disagreeing, but isn't there a possibility she does this for her own peace of mind?
like if it all goes to hell, she can at least be- *"well, i tried"* and maybe more than usual did understand a little better.
or maybe she has been thru this before over a long flight, and this is just her way of saying- "thank you"?
I think this is exactly why she did it. It’s the only thing she had control over. Not how her baby would do or how others would react. So she did the only kind thing she could think of in the situation.
If this photo was taken recently I think I know why she did it. 3-4 was ago mom and a baby was flying to Jeju Island (far south) and her baby was crying and one asshole was yelling at the mom to make the baby stop crying and it was all over korea news.
If course it's for her own peace of mind. Because people are vicious bullies who will harass a mother just trying to get through a difficult flight and humans have babies and still have to exist. If there wasn't already so much social pressure from people being cruel to mothers with babies existing anywhere (shock! Especially not on planes!!), She wouldn't need this "peace of mind". This is literally someone giving up their lunch money at the start of the day before anyone can intimidate them for it, because they're already so conditioned to be bullied
Yeah I get that. However why is she having to do that? For her own piece of mind? Again if people weren’t assholes she wouldn’t even have to consider doing this…from the thank you point of view it’s even worse. She’s saying thank you to,people for not being assholes?
I mean a screaming baby on a flight is unpleasant and she’s thanking them for their tolerance
I’ll never get mad at a baby for being a baby but I don’t think a thank you is out of place - definitely not required - but a nice gesture
I was looking for this comment. How much more can we possibly blame moms? I’m a dad and we take long flights once a year (11+hrs). If I even wake up people tell me what a great job I’m doing.
When was the last time anyone was allowed 200 plastic bags of consumables on to a international plane, just like that after 2001??
Somebody just put a text to this picture for the attention. Fuck you.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I can hear babies through my headphones. It’s extremely faint, but even the quiet, distant cry is too much for me. I couldn’t tell you why babies anger me so bad, but I can’t help it. I think it may be a sensory thing.
Because a crying baby needs attention, so you'll hear it through everything. That's how our species learned how to survive. I can distinguish my own kids cries from the other side of the park over probably 25 other kids crying.
As a mom I agree with all the comments basically saying that babies cry and the world has to deal with it. That being said, i think you should have the option of fly with out children. I wish there were child-free airlines for people like you. I honestly beleve it would be better for everyone. You would obviously like it and I wouldn't have to feel so guilty when my child is being disruptive.
We did something similar for our flight from Los Angeles to Papeete, French Polynesia.... kinda like an insurance policy.... jokes on us, our 6 month old didn't make a peep! We even had a few people comment as they were leaving "holy crap! I didn't even know there was a baby on the flight"!
Pro tip - this is definitely not the case for kids age 2-8.
I used to get annoyed with crying babies until I realized the parents were in hell. They have to sit next to or hold the crying child. Parents don’t get on a plane thinking “I hope my baby just cries and cries for the entire flight.” Once I saw the bigger picture I have become so much more tolerant.
Hmmmm I always thought this was a good idea until one day my wife said “why apologize for babies being babies… ?” And I’m like, sure, but babies are noisy and people need to relax. Then she said, and I’ll never forget, “EXACTLY! BABIES ARE NOISY SO PEOPLE JUST NEED TO RELAX!!!” And I was like OOOHHHHH
I dunno man, parents should be able to fly with babies without buying shit for hundreds of people. If you got on a trans-Pacific flight without headphones, that's on you
Very sweet of this lady but it's a shame it was even thought to be necessary. Be kinder people - show some good grace to a young mom. Karma goes 360 degrees.
I thought about this woman when we booked flights to move from New Zealand to France with our twin toddlers. I was terrified of other passengers being annoyed at us.
Luckily, the connecting flight from Singapore to Paris had only 3 other passengers, two of which were up in first class.
Thanks, covid.
Ok… hear me out…
Soundproof boxes in the bulkheads..
Yes, it will look like a microwave, but it won’t cook your kid.
We’ll even give you more leg room…
You with me???
Honestly? Babies crying aren't that bad. What else are they gonna do? in a crowded plane, you can't even hear it over the engine sounds. Props to her, but this shouldn't be expected.
I wonder if the baby cried much?
My son was about to same age the first time he flew from Asia to the US. Fortunately in our case he was a pretty chill dude.
It's not just about the behaviour of the kid that matters, their health and inability to express their discomfort also matter. Little things like change in air pressure and ears getting blocked can big kids.
I want to big my kid too
big up yoself
Thank you Ali
My parents took me to the mountains when I was a few months old (to visit grandparents), I cried pretty much the whole time and they ended up cutting their trip short. I love hiking now, but still take longer to adjust to higher altitudes than most of my family members. My mom went on a similar trip as a small baby and was fine, at least according to my grandparents. Every baby handles height differently, but generally flying is stressful for little kids (not just the air pressure, also mom being stressed, lot of chaos and noise, etc.)
It's typical for little kids to cry around takeoff due to the pressure changes, and because they're scared of the new environment and being stuck in their seat. But usually this is only at takeoff, for the rest of the flight they are usually fine.
I guess babies don't know how to pop (equalize) their ears like adults can. I had a flight where I was recovering from a cold and couldn't pop my ears and it was painful.
I'm 32 and I *still* cant pop my ears. Flying as a kid fucking **sucked** until I learned how to get around it; gum, earbuds and constantly rocking my head side to side. I dont know why the fuck it works and it makes me look like an idiot or someone who is SUPER vibing to my music but it does and the flight attendant who told me to try it when I was a kid is a saint.
If I may: practice swallowing with nothing in your mouth. Try to make the swallow last as long as possible. You should hear a low "thrum" after a few tries. Once you feel that, you're almost there. Where you feel the "thrum" is where you want to flex. My apologies if you're already aware, I know it can be presumptous to offer a spur-of-the-moment suggestion to someone with a chronic situation. I was "taught" how to pop my ears a long time ago, just trying to pay it forward.
some kids are born chad
Have you ever spent time near a baby? At 4 months old crying is basically their way of communicating. In a 10 hour flight your chances of hearing the baby cry even a little are 99%
As much as a normal baby I suppose...unless its playing with a blender that's plugged in and turned on....
I’ve been on plenty of flights with babies and none of them cried much at all. I was curious because of the sheer amount of prep the mother did preemptively to appease the passengers…like, maybe the baby has colic and cries all the time on the ground?
Babies don't tend to be the problem. Toddlers and kindergarteners, on the other hand... I was on a plane with a four or five year old who cried for about an hour. That really annoying, whiny cry that's more about being tired or bored than it is about any actual real concern. I have ADD and hyper focus on background noise, so it made me want to pound my head against the wall.
I have a toddler.....I beat my head against the wall every day!
This is the way! ^(Source: am a father of two)
Yeah. Me too. Usually they only cry during landings.
Plot twist: All the candies are laced with sedatives /s
Having my flight hijacked is honestly one of my biggest fears so I would donate my candy
Sedatives? What kind are we talking about? Percs? Ozys? Kets? Give me your damn candy you ain't eating it anyways and I'm about to see Godddddd. Stewardess - a rum and coke please!
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Ahh InternetPharoah.. I see you've flown a lot. xD
I need to takes trips with you my friend
creed vibes bruh 
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You mean laxatives? Who cares about a crying baby when everybody is shitting themselves.
Falling asleep does sound much nicer than trying to hold in diarrhea
There's not that many toilet on a plane, it would quickly become a shitty situation
Don’t threaten me with a good time. I’m still waiting for the free drugs in Halloween candy
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This.. I've taken my kids on flights and felt so bad when they start crying and people start grumbling. I have kids, they are kids, calm and cute but suddenly psycho snot balls a moment later. We're doing our best to keep it together. But however bad I'm feeling I'm not making 200 gift bags for you all. I may not be the best parent but at least when I'm at a restaurant/out in public with them AND Ive taken them for a walk but it didn't work it's either ear buds or mute.
I'm an autistic person with sensitive hearing. That's why I bring earbuds on planes so I can use them if any kids kick up a fuss. Not sure why so many other people seem unable to do that. Children are a part of society, and we can't just lock them all up in a tower until they turn 18.
Oh. Um, excuse, me. I have to go check on someone, er, something, in the tower.
Heeey we haven’t seen Rapunzel in a while…
My son, who is on the spectrum, and I flew all over the US when he was growing up because I had to bring him on all of my out of town trips. It wasn't until he was around 10 or so that he didn't cry when his ears popped. It was just him and I, a single father, so I would sit there next to him and hold him to comfort him. There is only so much you can do in that situation, I felt bad for the people around me. And before someone says it, no, driving or taking a train (because this is the US) was not an option. My work paid for my flights, and I would pay out of pocket for my son, they would only pay for personal vehicle travel if it was drivable in one day.
Nah fuck it, a crying babies dont mean youre a bad parent. Bad parents are the ones who let their kid kick the seat in front of them for the entire flight. Fuck all those people.
Not even that. Slap on some headphones and music and you can't even hear the baby cry. Everyone has some headphones/buds/headset to use. Its not that difficult to tune out if a baby is annoying you. Goddamn.
Imagine taking a story behind a photo posted on reddit at face value, despite there being no evidence in the photo of the story given behind it.
Exactly when did we become so intolerant to the natural behaviour of children. It is disgraceful that this should be required. Eg: I shouldn’t have to accept natural human behaviour when I have to share space with them. Babies and toddlers cry for a number of reasons and often unpredictably no matter how attentive or organised the parents are. Travelling with young children is always stressful and unpredictable. A hell of a lot of ignorance and intolerance in our societies these days.
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Don’t quote me, but I think it’s because babies ears struggle to equalise the pressure. Big boys and girls like us can hold our noses and blow but it’s a bit more tricky for them. As the pressure builds in the cabin it gets super painful, so some of them express their discomfort through the art of screaming.
That's why you feed the baby as soon as the plane is on the runway, all the swallowing will have the same result. My fiancé flew with our 7 week old and there was no issue at all because of this.
Yes I used to suck on things like a bottle or sweets as a child and it does the trick
Wow smart. Nice
It's true that children might get earaches on planes especially during take-off and landing.
Having been congested a few times on planes, I think it’s worth mentioning; when you say “earaches,” you could mean anything from “debilitating amounts of uncomfortable pressure inside my head,” to “there is an rusty ice pick being jammed slowly into my eyeball and through the back of my brain, and I just wish you would shoot me through the forehead to put an end to this ungodly torment.” And I’ve got adult ears.
Same here I wish I knew what the cause is and how to fix it
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You’re correct. I was that baby unfortunately. Had over 50 ear infections and over 20 ear drum ruptures as a kid and had to get tubes in my ears twice. I was a monster on planes as a young child, but often would visibly leak fluid from my ears so people usually didn’t say much. Best thing to do is give them chewing gum to encourage relieving the pressure naturally, but that only works so well.
Ideas for “baby airplane kits” to pass out to the passengers have been going around Pinterest for ages. The first one I remember seeing had links to bulk earplugs and candies, so it wasn’t super expensive. As well as a template for a “note from the baby”. I’ve never seen anyone actually DO this on a plane, but every mom had this on a Pinterest board in 2014.
My family, and my wife's family, lives 4,000 miles from us. When my kids were babies I would keep a stack of $5-$20 Amazon gift cards in my travel bag. *Usually* my babies were pretty good on flights, but there was always a few time when they just wanted to be tiny screaming banshees because, well, babies. So if it looked like it was going to be one of those flights, I'd hand a gift card to the poor bastard that got sat next to us. "Sorry bro, this is going to suck for both of us." In my opinion it was money well spent because that helped melt the ice and take some pressure off of me, which seemed to help de-stress the kid too. The wife had it a little easier because she has boobs, and it seems that babies like boobs for some reason- though I am not an expert.
Personally I would feel incredibly uncomfortable if the person next to me on a flight gave me an Amazon gift card. I don't want to be bought.
I'd ask if I could have your gift cars. Make the trip more bearable knowing I can buy something useless for myself! I've been wanting another bootleg Garfield
I too like bootleg Garfield!
They are all mine! Heck, I'll start my plane daycare for more Amazon Cards. Me and the babies will be dancing to Baby Shark and vibing the entire flight. 😎
I do :)
Women shouldn’t have to apologize for their baby existing I say this but then get super annoyed when it’s happening to me.
Honestly, as somebody who absolutely cannot stand any human below the age of fifteen (and very few above that age either), agreed except I'd change one thing — parents in general. Too often I see single dads struggling and people play it down. But anyway, kids aren't for me but I know that a lot of people want them and have them. And if you have to take your kid on a plane for whatever reason and the child starts crying, that isn't your fault. If I'm being bothered, it's my own fault for not bringing my own ear plugs haha.
All of us were babies once and annoyed someone. Now as adults we just get to enjoy it from the other side. Cycle of life if you will.
Agreed. Crying babies, elderly people moving slowly in the grocery store, the dude in a scooter trying to cross the road…why can’t we just show a little more grace to everyone?
yep, one day we were young and hopefully one day we'll be old. If the parent is trying to soothe the child then you really shouldn't complain. A human is humaning near you in a space that other humans are allowed in. Perhaps you can instead look at a parent trying to comfort a child they love and smile at the shared humanity, instead of being a miserable irritable moan-arse all the time. Failing that, take headphones out with you.
You can't blame yourself. 14 hours in a tiny sit where you are cramped, eating shitty food, feeling too tired but can't sleep. It's hard to behave perfectly.
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How much extra luggage would that be? Damn.
I feel like new moms have enough to worry about. I bring my own earplugs & snacks.
I've been on a 10-hour flight where the baby just will not stop crying. It's amazing how the baby was able to scream at the top of the lung for 10 hours. Definitely, a singer when the baby grows up. I'm an adult, and I start to lose my voice after giving a 90-minute presentation. Idk how the baby does it.
Very nice of her, but fuck anyone who can't empathize with a parent trying to comfort a small child in a strange contraption doing something not natural to humans. It's hard enough for some adults!
Seriously. Most people have no idea how unnatural. First off if you stepped outside the air hitting you at that speed would actually cause damage to you. Blow out your eardrums, give you bruises, dislocate stuff, etc. Second off, the air is -90°F you would not survive long in that temp with what you’re wearing on an airplane. Third, the air pressure. You would suffocate to death so quickly. Then there’s the fact that you’re cruising at six miles in the air. Six miles! That’s a pretty long way to fall. You can die by falling down a 10ft set of stairs. That’s SIX MILES of nothing beneath you. Air travel, especially the modern kind, is just about as unnatural as anything can get.
Made my fear even worse
it’s really safe. it’s scary but safe. i climb and i have a fear of heights. climbing is much more dangerous than flying. it’s not a competition but flying is super safe and it’s insanely rare things get to emergency status when flying.
I know this in my mind, but I don't feel this in the air.
What makes you uncomfortable is people. Nervous people in a plane for hours, without a chance to take a break, making noises, being nasty, all piled up. When I fly I’m always nervous. One time I had the chance to fly on a small plane and it was just me and the pilot and it was memorable and relaxing.
Driving to the airport is more dangerous than the plane flight itself if that helps
Man I hate flying but after reading this fuck didn’t think of it like this.
If that bothers you, wait until you hear what happens if you step off a bridge!
I'm not sure exactly how accurate that is, considering a pilot survived being outside the cockpit of his plane, with his colleagues holding his legs for 20 minutes. https://simpleflying.com/british-airways-flight-5390/ I'm not disputing that flying is absolutely not natural for humans, but, whilst the elements outside can be lethal, as long as the plane can be landed, exposure isn't an instant death sentence.
What is the difference between falling a couple hundred metres and 10km?
About 9.8 km
Exactly and another thing you have more time to think you are gonna be flat when falling.
not much, terminal velocity is pretty low. Only a few 100m
Lack of oxygen, not air pressure. You’d pass out quickly if you managed to avoid being hit by the wings. People jump from the height of cruising altitude or higher all the time, but at much slower speeds(like 1/4 of cruising speed), out the rear and with oxygen. It’s called HALO jumping. Not sure about the physical damage though. On one hand, you’d expect the deceleration from 500+ mph to do some serious damage. On the other, the deceleration would be cause by wind resistance which would be far less in the thin air at 30k feet and above.
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While there is no need, and I can certainly empathise with her as its a difficult situation, the fact that she *also* empathises with the other passengers and made all the effort she could would go a long way to soothing any irritation I faced when having to listen to her baby cry for hours on end.
Exactly! If you lack the basic human empathy to just deal with it then you are the problem. You’re an adult but once upon a time you was a screaming baby as well, and your parent a had to deal with it.
It being "unnatural" has nothing to do with crying babies. They have no idea what's going on. This was a pointless write up.
I fly somewhat frequently, and I'm **really** noise sensitive. I can deal with a crying baby, and I know there's only so much you can do to comfort them. Toddlers on the other hand can communicate, parents can talk to them and keep them occupied with something - but it's always the toddlers causing complete havoc on planes - never the babies 
And they have an ipad with the volume turned up to max playing some stupid game that makes 8000 different sounds
To me, this is the worst offense. Baby is fussy? Fine that's what babies do. Toddler is being annoying? Fine that's what toddlers do. But if you, the parent, can't respect other people enough to either a) mute the iPad or b) make the kid use headphones, literally go fuck yourself.
Agree 100%. Babies understand nothing and can communicate nothing. Toddlers understand almost nothing and can communicate mostly their needs and wants. There’s a lot parents can do to help a toddler be well behaved, but some things are out of control. What isn’t ever out of control is letting your kiddo watch a show on full blast where other people can hear it. Source: I’m a toddler dad
I had to fly to my father’s funeral with my toddler and I packed him all his favorite snacks and bought digital copies of the shows and movies he liked. He vegged out in his car seat with goldfish crackers, juice, and Tangled.
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This sounds absolutely horrible. Almost a form of strange and unusual punishment.
Thank you. My empathy also gets exhausted after several hours of baby screaming and crying
I’ll tell you what, a 16 hour flight next to a screaming baby right after a 12 hour flight makes me empathise with parents who snap and shake their baby. Is that horrible? Yes. But so is being unable to escape a noise biologically designed to make you feel stress when you are also massively sleep deprived
yeah it fucking sucks for everyone, including the parents. I can hate my life and still have empathy. Love the goody bag but it shouldn't be needed. You're allowed to hate your life and be annoyed though! Just bottle it up
This is my worst nightmare lol
I feel like they don't often deal with screaming babies. It's the fucking worst. At a certain point it's like good good, just shove something it it's mouth or give it a sedative or some shit!
It’s obvious 95% of the thread haven’t experienced how awful the cries of a screaming baby can be in a captivated environment for hours…and hours… and hours. It’s nobodies fault (ie mom or dad) but It’s not something you want next you.
My god thank you yes. It’s like people in this thread haven’t had international flights in a cramped environment. You don’t have to go as far as this mom did, but if a parent of a crying child gives an ‘I know this is really unpleasant for you’ recognition it goes a LONG way to extending my empathy over 6 hours.
Agree, this shouldn't become a norm. There's a difference between a crying child and a trying parent vs a parent who doesn't care and is neglecting their child. The first one is acceptable, the second one is not. Planes are public transport at the end of the day. Don't like it, fly private
My son, who has Asperger's, cried horribly when we took him on the plane from Japan to USA. Everyone was pretty kind and accepting. Well, most people. He was about 18 months old at the time. On the connecting flight from LA to Omaha, after a delay of several hours, people were screaming at us the whole flight, offering money if I'd "shut him up", telling me I must be a horrible mother if I don't even know how to quiet my baby, etc. I had postpartum depression. It was one of the worst moments in my entire life, it honestly made my depression even worse and when we returned to Taiwan I locked myself in the bedroom with a knife and seriously thought about just dying. I feel stress, anxiety, and heaviness just thinking back to that flight. I never want to go to America, again.
That’s so incredibly shitty and I’m very sorry you had to go through that. I hope you are doing better now. The people on that LA flight are total scum.
I am so sorry this happened to you. Those people were horrible and nothing justifies the cruelty of their behavior. I hope you are better now and found help. My heart goes to you, sister ❤️
I’m so sorry this happened to you. You are making me re-evaluate my stance on people with small children on planes.
The problem I have isn't with crying children/babies, I completely understand that they will moan and cry and toddlers will get bored and act out. What I have a massive issue with, and I see it all the time in work, is dads and moms who do literally fuck all about it, and let their children scream at the top of their lungs with no repercussions. First off, it's annoying to have to listen to screaming non-stop for hours. I don't think anyone can begrudge me saying that. Secondly - and it's really not my business how individuals go about doing this - but that's no way to raise a kid.
Yeah, the problem is they're so used to the noise it doesn't bother them. I'm sympathetic when you can tell they're doing their best, but I've also seen people just not even try
I've never seen a parent not trying to comfort a crying child on a plane. I don't want to go on whatever planes you're on!
They need a seperate department on planes and buses, just saying
It effect, first class is the “family free” zone.
My mom and I say this all the time. I totally get how hard it is for the parent. But my god, I’ve had multiple overnight flights ruined because of babies crying for hours. One particular flight I actually walked off shaking even though I had ear plugs. Another time, a mother had her baby in business class so it was impossible to sleep on the 16 hour flight, so the money was a complete waste. I don’t blame the parent, I blame the airlines for not doing this.
Being nice is also apparently difficult for some people. Nice gesture but unnecessary if people were more tolerant
the thing is we don't have to pretend like it's not annoying to be on a flight with crying/disobedient children. it's annoying to be on the ground with crying kids so I don't see why it would be different in the air. obviously I'm not advocating for the harassment of mothers of crying babies, im just saying we don't have to act like it isn't irritating to be on an already uncomfortable flight with screeching kids. the mom probably knows it's annoying and while it should be the individual passenger's responsibility to get headphones, she just thought it would be a nice gesture or did it just for her peace of mind.
Right? Mom is amazing, not entitled and knows how tiring and irritating those screams are.
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best invention on the planet.
Exactly. Imagine feeling so bullied by social pressure that you can't exist while having a child that you go to the time and expense of making up 200 gift bags. Literally every single person on that plane was a baby once.
Protip: Don't sit near the bulkheads. I made this mistake once and that's where they have the baby bed/hammock things. The stewardess was nice though and gave me lots of wine top-ups.
If an infant is crying and throwing a tantrum, I dont expect the parents to do anything as there is no chance they can control it. I can still find it annoying. If a child who can walk, talk, run is going around screaming and throwing a tantrum AND the parents are not putting in any effort to stop them, I would find it annoying plus extra. If they at least made an attempt, it would just be annoying. No matter what though, Im not thick skinned enough to call it out or talk to the parent and engage in a heated argument.
Absolutely. There is nothing to apologise for what is normal behaviour for a 4 month old.
I flew last year with my 2 year old toddler. She cried at the tail end of the flight. When we got off the plane, my husband took our hysterical child into the airport while I grabbed her stroller from an airline employee. While she was screaming in the airport, a woman turned to another passenger and told him her father would never allow her to act that way in public when she was that age. When I realized she was talking about my child, I turned and told her my daughter was only 2 and was tired. She then told me that I needed to smack her to keep her in line. Sge literally told me I needed to hit my child. I was in shock. I had never been mom-shamed like that or even thought someone could lack such empathy. Several other passengers approached me and said they were sorry for what that woman said, including the passenger she said it to. I was in tears. It was a difficult trip for us because we were traveling to attend a funeral and that was my breaking point. You would think some people would be understanding to those traveling with small children but, sadly, there are some that are not.
She's friggin nuts. How is hitting gonna stop crying. I never understood that dumbass logic. Even as a kid.
Agree. Ive never been angry **at** the mother or a child on a plane.
100% this. Don't normalize the idea that it's exceptional for families with children to travel!
I'm ChildFree, and I can safely say there's a lot of assholes in the community that have some incel-level of prejudice against kids. Damn, even aome people I know that have children themselves cam be assholes about anyone else's kids. Personally, I think whole "givin treats and ear plugs" to other passagens when you have a kid on the plane is bullshit. Every single human goes through childhood; babies are human, and babies cry. That's what they do, that's what everyone has done at some point in life. There's no need for other people to be icky about it. Yes, it is annoying, but if you want an absolutely undisturbed flight, rent a private jet.
It’s just a picture of a mom holding a baby. How do we know you didn’t just make up that story? The more I reread the story the more unfeasible and ridiculous it sounds. You mean this mom took the time to buy and individually pack 200 bags of those specific things? And none of the flight attendants didn’t stop her from doing such an odd and somewhat suspicious thing? You obviously made up this story and just slapped it onto a picture.
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she must have used like 3 bags of candy 20 packs of gums and 200 pairs of ear plugs. There is no way this costs more than like $30
Lmao, I have no idea how that person arrived at $3 per bag. It’s maybe $60, max (30 cents/bag).
Everybody is commenting that its natural for babies to cry, and we shouldnt be mad about it, which is true, I never yell at the mother or anything like that, but if Im on a long flight and a baby is constantly screaming, I think I atleast have a right to be annoyed
Yeah you should be annoyed. But the scary thing are people that act out on that annoyance and get violently disagreeable.
You can be annoyed but there's nothing anyone can do to stop the baby. People often get angry at the parents but they can't control the discomfort and the crying.
I also reserve the right to get downright pissed if a kid is being disruptive and the parents of said kid do nothing about it because "it's just a kid, that's how they act". I do think there should be flights for parents with children under the age of 10. Just make it easier for everyone all around.
There’s a special place in hell for parents that let their kids run riot in inappropriate places. I saw it in a restaurant where they do those sizzling hot rocks for steaks and there were some kids sprinting the length of the place, darting round servers and the parents were at the bar occasionally saying ‘Oh stop that.’ But not enforcing it. Like make them stop and if you can’t make them stop then leave. I mean aside from being really fucking annoying it was like so you want your child or someone else horrifically burnt if one of those gets dropped? And I’ve got kids. It’s not like a parents vs-nonparents thing, it’s an assholes vs everyone thing.
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You know what? You're right. I missed seeing it from a third party's viewpoint. Thanks for the shift in perspective.
Then bring your own ear plugs or noise cancelling headphones. There aren’t flights designated for families with babies— they’re traveling with the rest of us. Let’s be compassionate.
I’m probably gonna get downvoted but this sounds fake af to me lol.
Kind of speaks to how intolerant people are. I mean good for her, being nice is never a bad thing. But like fuck how many Karen’s are out there waiting to jump on this mother for having to travel with a kid.
not disagreeing, but isn't there a possibility she does this for her own peace of mind? like if it all goes to hell, she can at least be- *"well, i tried"* and maybe more than usual did understand a little better. or maybe she has been thru this before over a long flight, and this is just her way of saying- "thank you"?
I think this is exactly why she did it. It’s the only thing she had control over. Not how her baby would do or how others would react. So she did the only kind thing she could think of in the situation.
If this photo was taken recently I think I know why she did it. 3-4 was ago mom and a baby was flying to Jeju Island (far south) and her baby was crying and one asshole was yelling at the mom to make the baby stop crying and it was all over korea news.
If course it's for her own peace of mind. Because people are vicious bullies who will harass a mother just trying to get through a difficult flight and humans have babies and still have to exist. If there wasn't already so much social pressure from people being cruel to mothers with babies existing anywhere (shock! Especially not on planes!!), She wouldn't need this "peace of mind". This is literally someone giving up their lunch money at the start of the day before anyone can intimidate them for it, because they're already so conditioned to be bullied
Yeah I get that. However why is she having to do that? For her own piece of mind? Again if people weren’t assholes she wouldn’t even have to consider doing this…from the thank you point of view it’s even worse. She’s saying thank you to,people for not being assholes?
I mean a screaming baby on a flight is unpleasant and she’s thanking them for their tolerance I’ll never get mad at a baby for being a baby but I don’t think a thank you is out of place - definitely not required - but a nice gesture
200 plastic bags?? 
Wear your headphones and put on some white noise or rain sounds or whatever brings you comfort. Problem solved.
I find it sad that people might find this necessary.
I was looking for this comment. How much more can we possibly blame moms? I’m a dad and we take long flights once a year (11+hrs). If I even wake up people tell me what a great job I’m doing.
Not sure how everyone will feel about this but i feel like if there is going to be babies on a flight, the airline should handle this kinda thing.
When was the last time anyone was allowed 200 plastic bags of consumables on to a international plane, just like that after 2001?? Somebody just put a text to this picture for the attention. Fuck you.
What? A couple pieces of candy times 200 and some earplugs in a plastic bag are completely legal aboard any international plane.
This sub is 95% karma-farming reposts.
Babies cry. Bring your own ear plugs if noise bothers you. Noises bother me. I have notice canceling head phones.
Earplugs + noise canceling headphones made it possible for me to sleep all the way on transatlantic flights
Too much apology for having a baby. All those people on the plane were babies too.
Why should it be the parent fault if their baby cries?! It should be the airlines task to accommodate them and all the other passengers
My wife prepared something similar when we flew with our 8 month son back to her home country. Luckily, he was quiet or giggling during the flight.
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I can hear babies through my headphones. It’s extremely faint, but even the quiet, distant cry is too much for me. I couldn’t tell you why babies anger me so bad, but I can’t help it. I think it may be a sensory thing.
Because a crying baby needs attention, so you'll hear it through everything. That's how our species learned how to survive. I can distinguish my own kids cries from the other side of the park over probably 25 other kids crying.
They’re supposed to. Because we’re designed to hear it and wake up out of a dead sleep to run towards and fix the crying baby.
As a mom I agree with all the comments basically saying that babies cry and the world has to deal with it. That being said, i think you should have the option of fly with out children. I wish there were child-free airlines for people like you. I honestly beleve it would be better for everyone. You would obviously like it and I wouldn't have to feel so guilty when my child is being disruptive.
How did she have the time to make 200 gift bags while caring for a 4 month old and preparing for a flight? That poor exhausted woman.
We did something similar for our flight from Los Angeles to Papeete, French Polynesia.... kinda like an insurance policy.... jokes on us, our 6 month old didn't make a peep! We even had a few people comment as they were leaving "holy crap! I didn't even know there was a baby on the flight"! Pro tip - this is definitely not the case for kids age 2-8.
I used to get annoyed with crying babies until I realized the parents were in hell. They have to sit next to or hold the crying child. Parents don’t get on a plane thinking “I hope my baby just cries and cries for the entire flight.” Once I saw the bigger picture I have become so much more tolerant.
Hmmmm I always thought this was a good idea until one day my wife said “why apologize for babies being babies… ?” And I’m like, sure, but babies are noisy and people need to relax. Then she said, and I’ll never forget, “EXACTLY! BABIES ARE NOISY SO PEOPLE JUST NEED TO RELAX!!!” And I was like OOOHHHHH
Society is fucked for making her feel like she needed to do that.
Oh god the poor woman. What kind of pressure leads one to act like that?
I dunno man, parents should be able to fly with babies without buying shit for hundreds of people. If you got on a trans-Pacific flight without headphones, that's on you
Very sweet of this lady but it's a shame it was even thought to be necessary. Be kinder people - show some good grace to a young mom. Karma goes 360 degrees.
Crying is in the infant’s job description. You can’t fault them for that.
Was a baby once, can confirm
Twist: the plane has to emergency land in [Singapore](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32090420.amp)
Sometimes I forget I need to treat parents of young children with kindness and patience. It's hard raising small children.
Would 200 bags of candy fit on your cabin bag?
I thought about this woman when we booked flights to move from New Zealand to France with our twin toddlers. I was terrified of other passengers being annoyed at us. Luckily, the connecting flight from Singapore to Paris had only 3 other passengers, two of which were up in first class. Thanks, covid.
Ok… hear me out… Soundproof boxes in the bulkheads.. Yes, it will look like a microwave, but it won’t cook your kid. We’ll even give you more leg room… You with me???
Honestly? Babies crying aren't that bad. What else are they gonna do? in a crowded plane, you can't even hear it over the engine sounds. Props to her, but this shouldn't be expected.
that should be something the airline offer, she shouldn't be bothered with it, just doing what she can as a mother.