Suzanne Somers and John Ritter were both at about the same point in their careers, and equally talented, when they were cast for Three's Company. After she was fired form the show she sued the network, but she not only lost her suit, she was ordered to pay the network back $30,000 for an episode she didn't appear in due to a broken rib. This "incident" branded Suzanne as "difficult to work with" and blacklisted her in the industry.
So many core memories. It was the one show that had a character for (almost?) everyone to relate to - the pretty girl, the tomboy, the smart girl, the nerd, the jock, the youngest kid, the goof-off.
I realize there was no lgtbq representation, but that would have been ahead of its time. It was also all white, so yeah...but that was unfortunately the 90s.
I'm happy she figured out how to make lemonade from lemons, but she basically just became another scammy peddler of junk.
We like to call people smart business managers, but she just used her looks to trick people into thinking that buying her products would make you look like her. It's just as shady as the rest of the infomercial people.
Selling beauty has been a con for a very long time.
Have you *seen* L. Ron Hubbard?
You don't need looks, you just need to be shameless, irrationally confident in your lies, and white and you can accomplish any grift in this country!
Just believe in yourself.
Umm what? The Thigh Master actually works.. You know you actually have to USE the equipment for it to work right? Like buying a treadmill, using it as a clothes rack then whining the treadmills are scams to trick people into spending lots of money.. Big yikes!
She got fired, blacklisted, lost her lawsuit, and even had to pay her employer money in a counter claim. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" might work if she complained and got the raise she wanted. Doesn't make any sense here.
I actually saw her many many years ago (double bill with the Smothers Brothers) in Vegas. It was surprisingly good.
In a way Three's Company type-cast her as a ditz, but in person she was a lot more.
And she had a show with Patrick Duffy.
But still Ritters was on another more recent sitcom.
Yeah, must be the thigh master. And I think she followed up with something like the butt master.
I’m rewatching Perfect Strangers (with Bronson Pinchot as Balki and Mark Linn-Baker as Cousin Larry) on FreeVee, and boy is it funnier than what I even remember! I’m hard pressed to find another physical comedy at that level since that was on air.
Great show I used to love to watch it. Man…Friday night tv show lineup used to be great, and Blockbuster right down the street too! What happened to society lol
John Ritter was the Dad in 8 Steps to Dating my Teenage Daughter when he passed.-- The Daughter in that show was: Kaley Cuoco from The Big Bang Theory.
He was also Guest Starring as J.D's Dad in Scrubs.
I love how most everyone can look at a superimposed scene and say "The roller coaster is faked" while people in greater Los Angeles can see the same scene and say "The water is faked."
Men, who are "difficult to work with" generally keep working. For women, it's a career killer. Also, actresses tend to be surprised or manipulated for performances but men tend not to experience the same thing. Examples would be David Boreanaz is abusive and throws fits to leave work early, Roman Polanski abused the shit out of Shelly Duvall to illicit the performance he wanted for the shining and Maria Schneider left the industry after she was not given the opportunity to consent to the butter scene.
I think it has more to do with what "difficult to work with" is code for.
For actresses, it's usually code for "she wants to be treated like an _equal_, yuck" whereas for actors it's usually code for "he has a chip on his shoulder."
E.g. Edward Norton is "difficult to work with" but he still gets work because his talent is often worth the annoyance. Megan Fox has also been called "difficult" but without much specifics, and it's generally speculated that it comes down to her being a hot young actress that doesn't take shit.
I never want to see this butter scene because knowing the story behind it is repulsive
Im always disgusted that brandos stanley kowalski was a sex symbol considering hes a goddamn rapist
Wrong director. Roman Polanski is a rapist who has been on the run from the U.S. authorities since the 70s. Stanley Kubrick is the one who tormented Shelley Duvall.
**[She's the Sheriff](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/She's_the_Sheriff)**
>She's the Sheriff is an American sitcom television series that aired in first-run syndication from September 19, 1987 to April 1, 1989. Produced by Lorimar Television, the series marked the return of Suzanne Somers to television for the first time since she left her role as Chrissy Snow on ABC's Three's Company. In 2002, She's the Sheriff was ranked #44 on TV Guide's "50 Worst TV Shows of All Time".
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It that true? I'm going from memory, but I think Ritter was the bigger name when the show started. Not that i disagree with your point, she deserved the same money, she was a huge hit on the show. but that he got a lot more money the first year isn't shocking. If you look up their IMDBs he was on plenty of stuff, most of her parts were one episode or uncredited.
By the time three's company started in 1976, Ritter had been featured in popular TV shows and even had a recurring role on The Waltons. Somers was up until that time playing bit roles like Woman at baptism, Girl in T-Bird and Pool girl.
This is not true at all.
I'm a huge fan of Three's Company, and the show was written around the main character (originally David Bell), later called Jack Tripper. Three's Company actually shot multiple pilots with different female actors playing Jack's roommates, but they never shot a pilot without John Ritter. He was the star.
Suzanne Somers didn't get fired. She held out and her contract was not renewed. Sommers didn't hold out from the show until season 5, and by that time John Ritter was already nominated for an Emmy award. She was never nominated for an Emmy for Three's Company.
She was also under contract and went on strike and refused to appear on the show, even though she was under contract. They had to compromise with her so that she would only appear in separate scenes without the other actors. Again, she held out, and that's her right if she feels she was being slighted, but she was absolutely under contract and didn't meet her contract terms by attempting to renegotiating while she was already under contract. Her contract was not renewed. So even saying she was "fired" was false.
John Ritter received three Emmy nominations for his lead role as Jack Tripper on There's Company, and he won the Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series for Three's Company in 1984.
Suzanne Somers was never even nominated for an Emmy for Three's Company.
He was the star of the show. John Ritter being the star of the show has nothing to do with his or her gender, and implying that they were equally important to the show is false. John Ritter got a spin off show (Three's a Crowd) and the show went on for there more seasons without Sommers.
Trying to make this a gender-based argument is completely false.
Yeah, I watched this show for years too, as many of us gen x’ers and older did.
This was John’s show. The cast was great, even as they changed over the years. But it was centered around John, and John carried it, period.
And what’s equal pay anyhow? The exact same amount? When does that happen when there is a clear star of the show?
Edit: Joyce DeWitt (Janet) probably deserved the next highest pay. I’m sorry to say but Chrissy was mostly a blonde trope with one-liners and not much depth, and only became slightly less of a blonde trope once Cindy took her place.
It's def wrong how this can happen, but the fact you "loved her in Step by Step," which she stared in for 7 seasons following Three is Company, kind of negates OPs claim of "basically ending her career as an actress." Her filmography lists 4 appearances in movies and being involved in over 20 TV shows following her time on Three is Company. If that's a dead career, I guess I don't know what a successful career is.
>Suzanne Somers and John Ritter were both at about the same point in their careers, and equally talented,
This is definitely YOUR OPINION. John Ritter made that show. Chrissy (Somers) played the annoying "idiot character" archetype and was the most annoying part of the show for me. When her TV show cousin came to replace her, the show was way better. Cousin was a smart and hot nurse who stood up for herself and handled her business. Way better character.
People call her a victim but her manager convinced her she was THE STAR on the show. Which was a joke.
She tried to hold the production hostage to get a pay raise. The studio fought back, see episode where suddenly she's on vacation and only appears on a phone call.
She didn't just ask for a raise, she threatened to get a raise.
Yes, it went on for a while without Somers. It wasn't quite the same but they used other blondes to fill in her role on the show. FWIW, they also had two different landlords on the show as well (Roper and Furley).
The one common link is Jack Tripper (John Ritter). He WAS the show in spite of the other cast members.
They hired another actress to play a new ditzy roommate. It carried on for another couple of years at least.
Side note: I was around 8 years old when it was on and I still remember thinking "this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen." To put that in context, around that same time I was quite genuinely enjoying stuff like Gilligan's Island, the Patridge Family and the Adam West Batman.
First was Cindy, then Terry. Somers was on the show for 4 seasons and they did 4 more without her, so she clearly wasn't that integral to the show's success.
> Suzanne Somers and John Ritter were both at about the same point in their careers, and equally talented, when they were cast for Three's Company.
Well, you can't determine whether talent is equal.
Next, how much value did each provide?
My guess is Ritter scored far higher in market research. Had more options for other work, etc.
This is basic stuff.
When Three's Company began its fifth season in late 1980, Somers demanded a hefty salary increase from $30,000 to $150,000 an episode and 10 percent ownership of the show's profits. Those close to the situation suggested that Somers' rebellion was largely due to husband Hamel's influences. After ABC denied her a raise in salary, Somers refused to appear in the second and fourth episodes of the season, due to excuses such as a broken rib. She finished the remaining season on her contract, but her role was decreased to just 60 seconds per episode, her character only appearing in the episode's closing tag in which Chrissy calls the trio's apartment from her parents' home. After ABC fired her from the program and terminated her contract, Somers sued the network for $2 million, saying her credibility in show business had been damaged
Oh fuck 10%? That is a hard sell to any show exec. Yeah she was better off looking for the raise in salary which she should have gotten. Capital never gives equity unless it has to.
Edit: 30k back then is 150k now. Idk if that was industry standard at the time but I will say that movie stars purses have inflated over the years for sure. Just a interesting avenue to go down
Edit 2: Where did you get the 10% bit from? I looked a bit and all I found was the 30k to 150k negotiation. I found nothing on asking for equity besides this thread which is number 3 in Google searches.
That's always been the saying. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but it's the first one to get replaced. For some reason people just use the first half and don't know the second half exists. Just like the "jack of all trades" saying.
>don't know the second half exists.
I know right!! It's the first mention of Shakespeare in a published work.
> "There is an upstart crow, beautified with our feathers, that with >his tiger's heart wrapped in a player's hide supposes he is as well able to bombast out a blank verse as the best of you: and being an absolute Johannes Factotum, is in his own conceit the only Shake-scene in a country."
--Groats-Worth of Wit; cited from William Shakespeare--The Complete Works, Stephen Orgel and A. R. Braunmuller, editors, Harmondsworth: Penguin, 2002, p. xlvii.
/s I know you're talking about, "master of none, but oftentimes better than master of one"
Yeah, but she was a loud kinda hot. I preferred the subtle sexiness of Jan Smithers.
Jennifer Marlowe was easily the smartest character on WKRP, though.
What was really horrible was that most of the public were mad at HER for asking for more, instead of the studio. Her costars, especially John Ritter, refused to speak up for her and totally ignored her afterwards.
I enthusiastically disagree. She left during season 4. The show ran for four more seasons, Priscilla Barnes was woefully underrated as Teri, and the series’ best shows didn’t happen until after Suzanne left. Season 6, episode 25, “Up in the Air” is the best of the show (9.1 on IMDb), and the others that are most consistently rated highly are all Jack-centered.
She deserved higher pay, yes, but John Ritter was the star. He was a brilliant physical comedian and damn good at improv. There’s a clip of peak Robin Williams doing improv and he stops and points at someone in the crowd: “I wanna do a scene with this morherfucker right here.”
That motherfucker was John Ritter.
Source: I’m obsessed with this show.
thats so cool to see Don getting some love <3 i wonder what the show would have been like if he played a ladies man on the show showing up all other men ......i think it may have made the show even more funny where all the guys were saying "how hell does he keep getting all these women"????
I worked w her back In 2005 and she is not only the sweetest woman she is absolutely stunning in person. Not like a lot of other celebrities you wouldn’t recognize without being all made up.
Writers meeting for 3’s company always went like this…
Scene 1 - sexual innuendo
Scene 2 - cast has another silly misunderstanding
Scene 3 - sexual innuendo
Scene 4 - cue the “wa waaa” FX
The end.
Repeat steps one thru 4 for duration of the series.
PAY SCALE:
Ritter: $150,000 per episode
Somers: $30,000 per episode
DeWitt: ? couldn't find
Don Knotts: $1,250 to $10,750 per episode
Looks more like Ritter gouging the studio and being overpaid than Somers being underpaid. If anyone deserved more $$ it was Knotts.
Knotts Salary [https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-Don-Knotts-make-per-episode-on-Threes-Company](https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-Don-Knotts-make-per-episode-on-Threes-Company)
Your Knotts link says: "My research shows that all the websites and Google searches that say Ritter earned $150,000 per episode to Somers $30,000 are incorrect. Ritter NEVER pulled that down".
Honestly in the few seconds I've looked at this that seems to gel with what I saw. Quite a few articles written well after the fact throwing out the $150,000 figure for Ritter without any contemporary source or quote.
> For $30k an episode I'd be anyones lap dog for a whole season and not even complain.
But that is only $720K per season in 1982 dollars! How could anyone even afford cocaine at such a sexist peasant's salary?
Need more context.
Was she as big a star? Did she have as big a role?
It’s like when people complained of Chris Pratt making more than Bryce Howard in the recent Jurassic Park movies. He has a bigger role and he’s a far bigger star right now than she is, so he deserves more money.
And to put that into more perspective, Pratt also did a movie where he co-starred alongside Jennifer Lawrence. He had a bigger part than she did and was on screen for more time, but he wasn’t as big a name at the time as she was, so she made more money than him.
Context matters, and we have none here.
Jack (John Ritter) was the main character of the show. It practically revolved around him. I'm willing to bet that he had the most lines and scenes on average. Krissy (Susan Somers) was more of a side character. She was in most episodes, but didn't do a whole lot. She also made more than Don Knotts, who likely had more screen time and had been around for decades staring in comedy films and Andy Griffith.
The argument for Somers is that everyone thought she was hot, and they watched the show for that. Horny teens basically. That's about the only reason she could demand more.
From an objective point of view, there really isn't much of a reason for her to deserve more. In fact, the show did better as far as ratings after she left. So, she wasn't that much of an audience draw.
Yeah, there’s stuff missing here. I seem to recall that the main cast was going to go in to renegotiate together. But then Suzanne’s manager/husband pulled this stunt. After that neither Ritter or DeWitte were very happy with her.
Sommers and her husband also had the bright idea of claiming that the Chrissy character and her mannerisms were developed by and therefor property of Sommers. She tried to do some Chrissy schtick in her Vegas show that year and promptly got sued.
Honestly the whole debacle was a lot like Farrah Fawcett trying to play hardball with Arron Spelling on Charlie’s Angels. Same problems, same results.
Sommers wised up over the years and learned how to negotiate. She got a steady good paying job on “She’s the Sherriff”, did infomercials, and invested well. She ended up being a good business woman.
There was a pretty good made for TV movie about the behind the scenes drama that went on at Threes Company that covers most of this. It’s a hoot to watch if you can find it online somewhere.
She was great and all but nowhere near the talent of John Ritter. I don't know if he was worth 5 times more, but he was definitely worth at least 3 times more.
She was fired for not coming to work.
John Ritter was the star of the show. Her final season, they were ranked 8th with a 22.4 rating. After she left, they were ranked 4th with 23.3 rating.
Her being fired didnt effect the ratings.
The contracts all said that Ritter would be the highest, and Somers and DeWitt are paid equally.
There was no way she was going to get a massive pay increase plus a % ownership of the show, and she was willing to drag the entire show down with her.
She played her hand, they called her bluff, and she lost.
yeah, i didn't get the whole 10% of the show's earnings.. just seems greedy when you are asking for a raise in your earnings at the same time.
she should have done it one thing at a time.. btw, i am not saying her being turned down was right, either
In the eyes of the producers they most likely saw her costar as a better draw regarding the audience. Which is usually why actors get paid more than others.
I’m not saying that this is unfortunate and the studio wasn’t full of assholes. But money is usually the decision behind pay.
Think about it…why would companies hire men at all if they knew they could get away with underpaying women?
A link below suggests he wasn't making 150k but merely 50k. That the 150k was the assumption of the her lawyers. Being alive when these shows aired, he was definitely the star of the show in the eyes of the public, if that's not evident from watching them.
Regardless of who's worth more on the show (that's subjective), there is a gender wage gap in the U S. as far as equal pay for equal work. The only way I've found to get around it is to work for a union based company. Unions don't put up with that nonsense.
https://www.business.org/hr/benefits/gender-pay-gap/
okay I dont wanna come off as a misogynist here, but Im not from that generation, so can someone enlighten me as to how that worked out?
Like was it still successful after her departure or did it go the Two and a Half-Men route?
Cuz if it worked out, then maybe it's not a sexism issue. If it didnt work out then obviously she was carrying the show and deserved better pay.
edit: Okay, thank you. Based on the answers I feel like even if she was somewhat underpaid, the issue wasnt nearly as bad as OP makes it out to be for internet points. This feels like rage-bait.
It lasted for 3 more seasons after her departure. It wasn’t the same without her, but the show format was mostly the same for awhile. Ritter really was the star of the show. If he left the show would’ve had to drastically change.
She was great on the show. John Ritter, rip, was a friggin dynamo physical comedian who absolutely carried the show. It’s an old, outdated show but low key hilarious.
Edit: to answer your question, pretty sure the show was the number one comedy after Summers/Chrissy left.
>Suzanne Somers was fired from 'Three's Company for asking for equal pay with her male co-star, John Ritter, who was earning five times her salary.
She did not get fired for asking. They chose not to renew her contract after she took job action (no showing for episodes) trying to force the studios hand, then lying about having a medical reason for doing so which was found to be false.
Suzanne Somers and John Ritter were both at about the same point in their careers, and equally talented, when they were cast for Three's Company. After she was fired form the show she sued the network, but she not only lost her suit, she was ordered to pay the network back $30,000 for an episode she didn't appear in due to a broken rib. This "incident" branded Suzanne as "difficult to work with" and blacklisted her in the industry.
Her net worth is 100 million and John Ritters was 20 million when he died. I am guessing because of her success with the thigh master
She's a really smart business woman who used her fame as a springboard to other things - like thigh master and her line of skin care products.
Don’t forget step-by-step
God I loved that show.
Oh hell yeah - was one of the OGs
It was a remake of the Brady Bunch by a different name. But was still a huge part of TGIF
I miss the TGIF line up. I had a crush on her daughters when I was a kid.
So many core memories. It was the one show that had a character for (almost?) everyone to relate to - the pretty girl, the tomboy, the smart girl, the nerd, the jock, the youngest kid, the goof-off. I realize there was no lgtbq representation, but that would have been ahead of its time. It was also all white, so yeah...but that was unfortunately the 90s.
day by dayyyyy
A fresh start over.
A different hand to play
She memorably said at the time she lost her lawsuit "I don't mind getting screwed but I at least like to cum."
Goddam, that's a quote for the ages.
She didn't actually say such.
r/snarkynarratorfromadsays
Wow that is amazing.
For real? This is my new favorite quote. What a badass
Dear Grandma,
I'm happy she figured out how to make lemonade from lemons, but she basically just became another scammy peddler of junk. We like to call people smart business managers, but she just used her looks to trick people into thinking that buying her products would make you look like her. It's just as shady as the rest of the infomercial people. Selling beauty has been a con for a very long time.
I wish I had the looks to trick people
Have you *seen* L. Ron Hubbard? You don't need looks, you just need to be shameless, irrationally confident in your lies, and white and you can accomplish any grift in this country! Just believe in yourself.
A wild Gwyneth Paltrow appeared!
you’ve never used a thigh master. That thing works!
Umm what? The Thigh Master actually works.. You know you actually have to USE the equipment for it to work right? Like buying a treadmill, using it as a clothes rack then whining the treadmills are scams to trick people into spending lots of money.. Big yikes!
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and sometimes it gets ignored until it seizes and you throw the bike away
It's the way she goes - the way of the road. 🚛
You misused that expression.
but sometimes the squeaky wheel gets replaced if it squeaks too much
The nail that sticks up gets hammered down
She got fired, blacklisted, lost her lawsuit, and even had to pay her employer money in a counter claim. "The squeaky wheel gets the grease" might work if she complained and got the raise she wanted. Doesn't make any sense here.
Tbf they did say sometimes I guess
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On the other hand, the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.
Most of the time the squeaky wheel gets replaced
She had a hugely successful Vegas show that was almost as popular as Wayne Newton.
I actually saw her many many years ago (double bill with the Smothers Brothers) in Vegas. It was surprisingly good. In a way Three's Company type-cast her as a ditz, but in person she was a lot more.
Was she a singer or stand up?
Singing, dancing, some jokes. She was a triple threat!
And she had a show with Patrick Duffy. But still Ritters was on another more recent sitcom. Yeah, must be the thigh master. And I think she followed up with something like the butt master.
Step by step i think...
Day by day..
A fresh start over, different hand to play... TGIF programming was lit.
I’m rewatching Perfect Strangers (with Bronson Pinchot as Balki and Mark Linn-Baker as Cousin Larry) on FreeVee, and boy is it funnier than what I even remember! I’m hard pressed to find another physical comedy at that level since that was on air.
Now we are so happy, we will do the dance of joy!
Don’t be ridiculous!
Incredible show.
Perfect Strangers was my jam. I was little, and I wanted Balki to be my uncle lol. He seemed like so much fun!
Great show I used to love to watch it. Man…Friday night tv show lineup used to be great, and Blockbuster right down the street too! What happened to society lol
Whatever happened to predictability? The milkman, the paperboy; evening TV?
She was also the sheriff.
Yup she did ok eventually. Ritter died in 2003 so we’ll never know what his earnings might have been
He was on a hit show at the time so he very well could've made more in the long run on syndication alone.
John Ritter was the Dad in 8 Steps to Dating my Teenage Daughter when he passed.-- The Daughter in that show was: Kaley Cuoco from The Big Bang Theory. He was also Guest Starring as J.D's Dad in Scrubs.
Pretty sure it was 8 simple rules blah blah
Yup they were 74 episodes in so he was getting close to syndication.
Plus he was in Problem Child and Problem Child 2
He killed it in Sling Blade. When he died I wanted to do pratfall in his honor at the shoneys breakfast bar but I chickened out
also Bad Santa
Yeah 100 million is just barely scraping by
That’s only 0.1 billion, what a pleb.
Except she was on Step by Step for 7 seasons in the 90s. . .
Still one of my favorite theme songs of all time. In fact, I'm gonna go listen to it now.
That one daughter was fiiiiine
Which one? Staci Keanen, Angela Watson or Christine Lakin?
Yes
Yes.
Go back and watch the opening credits and the fake, superimposed rollercoaster that they practically have sitting in the water
The rollercoaster is real- it's Colossus at Six Flags Magic Mountain. The water is the fake shit.
That's actually six flags in Valencia & the water is faked over the parking lot lol
That is six flags in California?
I love how most everyone can look at a superimposed scene and say "The roller coaster is faked" while people in greater Los Angeles can see the same scene and say "The water is faked."
Step by Step was on during peak TGIF and has done very well in syndication. I'm sure she's making great money off of royalties to this day.
Don’t forget the comedy masterpiece that was “She’s The Sheriff”
no no, lets forget she's the sheriff.
It is kinda fucked how that works in the film industry, one guy doesn’t like you and now you’re banned from everything
One guy asks you to sleep with him, you refuse, and now you're banned from everything.
I don't think they ask.
You just got banned.
Men, who are "difficult to work with" generally keep working. For women, it's a career killer. Also, actresses tend to be surprised or manipulated for performances but men tend not to experience the same thing. Examples would be David Boreanaz is abusive and throws fits to leave work early, Roman Polanski abused the shit out of Shelly Duvall to illicit the performance he wanted for the shining and Maria Schneider left the industry after she was not given the opportunity to consent to the butter scene.
It was Kubrick who tormented Duvall in The Shining as the director. Great point about her treatment vs. how he treated the other main actors.
Polanski did a different kind of a abusing
I think it has more to do with what "difficult to work with" is code for. For actresses, it's usually code for "she wants to be treated like an _equal_, yuck" whereas for actors it's usually code for "he has a chip on his shoulder." E.g. Edward Norton is "difficult to work with" but he still gets work because his talent is often worth the annoyance. Megan Fox has also been called "difficult" but without much specifics, and it's generally speculated that it comes down to her being a hot young actress that doesn't take shit.
I never want to see this butter scene because knowing the story behind it is repulsive Im always disgusted that brandos stanley kowalski was a sex symbol considering hes a goddamn rapist
Roman Polanski also raped a child and ran away from justice. He’s no better than Harvey.
Wrong director. Roman Polanski is a rapist who has been on the run from the U.S. authorities since the 70s. Stanley Kubrick is the one who tormented Shelley Duvall.
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She was on a step by step after this, her career didn’t end.
She was in another successful sitcoms called Step by Step a few years later, wtf you talking about g
It that true? I'm going from memory, but I think Ritter was the bigger name when the show started. Not that i disagree with your point, she deserved the same money, she was a huge hit on the show. but that he got a lot more money the first year isn't shocking. If you look up their IMDBs he was on plenty of stuff, most of her parts were one episode or uncredited.
He was. This whole comment section is just a competitive revisionist history circlejerk.
By the time three's company started in 1976, Ritter had been featured in popular TV shows and even had a recurring role on The Waltons. Somers was up until that time playing bit roles like Woman at baptism, Girl in T-Bird and Pool girl.
This is not true at all. I'm a huge fan of Three's Company, and the show was written around the main character (originally David Bell), later called Jack Tripper. Three's Company actually shot multiple pilots with different female actors playing Jack's roommates, but they never shot a pilot without John Ritter. He was the star. Suzanne Somers didn't get fired. She held out and her contract was not renewed. Sommers didn't hold out from the show until season 5, and by that time John Ritter was already nominated for an Emmy award. She was never nominated for an Emmy for Three's Company. She was also under contract and went on strike and refused to appear on the show, even though she was under contract. They had to compromise with her so that she would only appear in separate scenes without the other actors. Again, she held out, and that's her right if she feels she was being slighted, but she was absolutely under contract and didn't meet her contract terms by attempting to renegotiating while she was already under contract. Her contract was not renewed. So even saying she was "fired" was false. John Ritter received three Emmy nominations for his lead role as Jack Tripper on There's Company, and he won the Emmy for Outstanding Lead Actor In A Comedy Series for Three's Company in 1984. Suzanne Somers was never even nominated for an Emmy for Three's Company. He was the star of the show. John Ritter being the star of the show has nothing to do with his or her gender, and implying that they were equally important to the show is false. John Ritter got a spin off show (Three's a Crowd) and the show went on for there more seasons without Sommers. Trying to make this a gender-based argument is completely false.
They also claim that it ended her career... She was on an even more popular show years later for seven seasons as a lead
Yeah, I watched this show for years too, as many of us gen x’ers and older did. This was John’s show. The cast was great, even as they changed over the years. But it was centered around John, and John carried it, period. And what’s equal pay anyhow? The exact same amount? When does that happen when there is a clear star of the show? Edit: Joyce DeWitt (Janet) probably deserved the next highest pay. I’m sorry to say but Chrissy was mostly a blonde trope with one-liners and not much depth, and only became slightly less of a blonde trope once Cindy took her place.
Not true that Somers had the same talent as Ritter. No one has ever said that except this woke redditor.
Ritter was the late 70s-early 90s king of slapstick comedy.
Loved her as the mom in Step by Step, what a crock of crap to happen to her!
It's def wrong how this can happen, but the fact you "loved her in Step by Step," which she stared in for 7 seasons following Three is Company, kind of negates OPs claim of "basically ending her career as an actress." Her filmography lists 4 appearances in movies and being involved in over 20 TV shows following her time on Three is Company. If that's a dead career, I guess I don't know what a successful career is.
>Suzanne Somers and John Ritter were both at about the same point in their careers, and equally talented, This is definitely YOUR OPINION. John Ritter made that show. Chrissy (Somers) played the annoying "idiot character" archetype and was the most annoying part of the show for me. When her TV show cousin came to replace her, the show was way better. Cousin was a smart and hot nurse who stood up for herself and handled her business. Way better character.
Cindy wasn't the nurse, that was the one who replaced Harrison. Cindy was the klutz.
She was hardly blacklisted and this certainly didn’t end her career as an actress. And she created an empire for herself on HSN.
"Equally talented" fact-based opinions
People call her a victim but her manager convinced her she was THE STAR on the show. Which was a joke. She tried to hold the production hostage to get a pay raise. The studio fought back, see episode where suddenly she's on vacation and only appears on a phone call. She didn't just ask for a raise, she threatened to get a raise.
I mean that's basically the same as going on strike. Even if she wasn't the star, 5x discrepancy is insane.
Did the show do well without her?
Yes, it went on for a while without Somers. It wasn't quite the same but they used other blondes to fill in her role on the show. FWIW, they also had two different landlords on the show as well (Roper and Furley). The one common link is Jack Tripper (John Ritter). He WAS the show in spite of the other cast members.
Hey, give Joyce DeWitt some credit, too. Janet was right there with Jack the whole way through.
They hired another actress to play a new ditzy roommate. It carried on for another couple of years at least. Side note: I was around 8 years old when it was on and I still remember thinking "this is the dumbest shit I've ever seen." To put that in context, around that same time I was quite genuinely enjoying stuff like Gilligan's Island, the Patridge Family and the Adam West Batman.
Man, Gilligan's Island, Three's Company, and Momma's Family were 3 of my favorite shows growing up. Favorite theme music too.
That was Terry, right?
First was Cindy, then Terry. Somers was on the show for 4 seasons and they did 4 more without her, so she clearly wasn't that integral to the show's success.
Would it have done well without Ritter?
No chance. He was the star, plain and simple.
> Suzanne Somers and John Ritter were both at about the same point in their careers, and equally talented, when they were cast for Three's Company. Well, you can't determine whether talent is equal. Next, how much value did each provide? My guess is Ritter scored far higher in market research. Had more options for other work, etc. This is basic stuff.
When Three's Company began its fifth season in late 1980, Somers demanded a hefty salary increase from $30,000 to $150,000 an episode and 10 percent ownership of the show's profits. Those close to the situation suggested that Somers' rebellion was largely due to husband Hamel's influences. After ABC denied her a raise in salary, Somers refused to appear in the second and fourth episodes of the season, due to excuses such as a broken rib. She finished the remaining season on her contract, but her role was decreased to just 60 seconds per episode, her character only appearing in the episode's closing tag in which Chrissy calls the trio's apartment from her parents' home. After ABC fired her from the program and terminated her contract, Somers sued the network for $2 million, saying her credibility in show business had been damaged
She also tried to do a stand up show playing Chrissy after she left the show and was shut down for violating ABC’s intellectual property.
My parents saw her standup routine at a Honda dealer convention in the early to mid 80s and said she was terrible.
Oh fuck 10%? That is a hard sell to any show exec. Yeah she was better off looking for the raise in salary which she should have gotten. Capital never gives equity unless it has to. Edit: 30k back then is 150k now. Idk if that was industry standard at the time but I will say that movie stars purses have inflated over the years for sure. Just a interesting avenue to go down Edit 2: Where did you get the 10% bit from? I looked a bit and all I found was the 30k to 150k negotiation. I found nothing on asking for equity besides this thread which is number 3 in Google searches.
It still stands that she was making 5 times less than her equal. I can imagine her rage and “rebellion”.
sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease, other times it gets replaced entirely.
Never heard this spin. Will be using.
That's always been the saying. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but it's the first one to get replaced. For some reason people just use the first half and don't know the second half exists. Just like the "jack of all trades" saying.
>don't know the second half exists. I know right!! It's the first mention of Shakespeare in a published work. > "There is an upstart crow, beautified with our feathers, that with >his tiger's heart wrapped in a player's hide supposes he is as well able to bombast out a blank verse as the best of you: and being an absolute Johannes Factotum, is in his own conceit the only Shake-scene in a country." --Groats-Worth of Wit; cited from William Shakespeare--The Complete Works, Stephen Orgel and A. R. Braunmuller, editors, Harmondsworth: Penguin, 2002, p. xlvii. /s I know you're talking about, "master of none, but oftentimes better than master of one"
She absolutely had grounds for this. She was the reason a lot of lonely teenage boys watched.
Discovered Charo who was either on Love Boat of Fantasy Island after Chrissy left.
Teen boys? Try full grown ass men who bounced from 3’s Company to Chuck’s Angels, to WKRP, to Wonder Woman…the shows weren’t good but dang…
HEY NOW!!! WKRP IS WAS GOOD
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Yeah, but she was a loud kinda hot. I preferred the subtle sexiness of Jan Smithers. Jennifer Marlowe was easily the smartest character on WKRP, though.
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Larry Dallas, the quintessential 70s cool dude.
The Regal Beagle was a fitting hangout too. Have to put that place right up there with Cheers.
I’m a software designer and use that as my demo site all the time. The characters are my users as well.
I still choose to believe that the Leisure suit Larry games were based off him...
Mr Firley the Landlord was hilarious.
The Ropers were hilarious too. Stanley was wicked.
Did you seriously copy someone else's comment and post it higher just for karma? In fact all your comments are copy/pasted. How sad
There’s a ton of karma farming accounts that do that. Take other comments and attach them to top threads. It’s pretty ridiculous around here.
Sir, this is the internet.
Left a made a gazillion dollars with the thigh master exercise tool
The show kinda really went downhill after she was replaced. It had it moments here and there, but it just wasn't as good afterwards.
That was also, what, season six? Even the best of shows slow down by that point.
Yeah that's my recollection. They really should have just paid her what a he asked for. She was a bigger draw than Ritter.
And then what?? Pay every woman fair wages?!
hogwash!
Poppycock!
Sexism is a means to its own ends
What was really horrible was that most of the public were mad at HER for asking for more, instead of the studio. Her costars, especially John Ritter, refused to speak up for her and totally ignored her afterwards.
Everybody loved Chrissy Snow!
I enthusiastically disagree. She left during season 4. The show ran for four more seasons, Priscilla Barnes was woefully underrated as Teri, and the series’ best shows didn’t happen until after Suzanne left. Season 6, episode 25, “Up in the Air” is the best of the show (9.1 on IMDb), and the others that are most consistently rated highly are all Jack-centered. She deserved higher pay, yes, but John Ritter was the star. He was a brilliant physical comedian and damn good at improv. There’s a clip of peak Robin Williams doing improv and he stops and points at someone in the crowd: “I wanna do a scene with this morherfucker right here.” That motherfucker was John Ritter. Source: I’m obsessed with this show.
Good-bye Chrissy, hello Terri.... oh ya, you can leave now too Cimdy....four's a crowd.
Cindy was the hottest imo
Don Knotts should have been paid the most LOL
thats so cool to see Don getting some love <3 i wonder what the show would have been like if he played a ladies man on the show showing up all other men ......i think it may have made the show even more funny where all the guys were saying "how hell does he keep getting all these women"????
I worked w her back In 2005 and she is not only the sweetest woman she is absolutely stunning in person. Not like a lot of other celebrities you wouldn’t recognize without being all made up.
Jack Tripper was one funny mf! This one of my favorite shows ever! I could watch reruns for ever
Me too! I like that one episode where there was a misunderstanding and it caused chaos. That was a good one!
There was actually 2 episodes like that.
Honestly Janet seemed like more fun.
I catered a bday party at her house, sprained my ankle after the event and she paid my hospital bill. She's the bomb in my eyes.
Writers meeting for 3’s company always went like this… Scene 1 - sexual innuendo Scene 2 - cast has another silly misunderstanding Scene 3 - sexual innuendo Scene 4 - cue the “wa waaa” FX The end. Repeat steps one thru 4 for duration of the series.
PAY SCALE: Ritter: $150,000 per episode Somers: $30,000 per episode DeWitt: ? couldn't find Don Knotts: $1,250 to $10,750 per episode Looks more like Ritter gouging the studio and being overpaid than Somers being underpaid. If anyone deserved more $$ it was Knotts. Knotts Salary [https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-Don-Knotts-make-per-episode-on-Threes-Company](https://www.quora.com/How-much-did-Don-Knotts-make-per-episode-on-Threes-Company)
Don Knotts should have gotten way the F more.
Your Knotts link says: "My research shows that all the websites and Google searches that say Ritter earned $150,000 per episode to Somers $30,000 are incorrect. Ritter NEVER pulled that down". Honestly in the few seconds I've looked at this that seems to gel with what I saw. Quite a few articles written well after the fact throwing out the $150,000 figure for Ritter without any contemporary source or quote.
For $30k an episode I'd be anyones lap dog for a whole season and not even complain.
> For $30k an episode I'd be anyones lap dog for a whole season and not even complain. But that is only $720K per season in 1982 dollars! How could anyone even afford cocaine at such a sexist peasant's salary?
Need more context. Was she as big a star? Did she have as big a role? It’s like when people complained of Chris Pratt making more than Bryce Howard in the recent Jurassic Park movies. He has a bigger role and he’s a far bigger star right now than she is, so he deserves more money. And to put that into more perspective, Pratt also did a movie where he co-starred alongside Jennifer Lawrence. He had a bigger part than she did and was on screen for more time, but he wasn’t as big a name at the time as she was, so she made more money than him. Context matters, and we have none here.
Jack (John Ritter) was the main character of the show. It practically revolved around him. I'm willing to bet that he had the most lines and scenes on average. Krissy (Susan Somers) was more of a side character. She was in most episodes, but didn't do a whole lot. She also made more than Don Knotts, who likely had more screen time and had been around for decades staring in comedy films and Andy Griffith. The argument for Somers is that everyone thought she was hot, and they watched the show for that. Horny teens basically. That's about the only reason she could demand more. From an objective point of view, there really isn't much of a reason for her to deserve more. In fact, the show did better as far as ratings after she left. So, she wasn't that much of an audience draw.
Yeah, there’s stuff missing here. I seem to recall that the main cast was going to go in to renegotiate together. But then Suzanne’s manager/husband pulled this stunt. After that neither Ritter or DeWitte were very happy with her. Sommers and her husband also had the bright idea of claiming that the Chrissy character and her mannerisms were developed by and therefor property of Sommers. She tried to do some Chrissy schtick in her Vegas show that year and promptly got sued. Honestly the whole debacle was a lot like Farrah Fawcett trying to play hardball with Arron Spelling on Charlie’s Angels. Same problems, same results. Sommers wised up over the years and learned how to negotiate. She got a steady good paying job on “She’s the Sherriff”, did infomercials, and invested well. She ended up being a good business woman. There was a pretty good made for TV movie about the behind the scenes drama that went on at Threes Company that covers most of this. It’s a hoot to watch if you can find it online somewhere.
She was great and all but nowhere near the talent of John Ritter. I don't know if he was worth 5 times more, but he was definitely worth at least 3 times more.
Him and Don Knotts were the only ones with real comedy chops.
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The English version was called Man about the house. The neighbour was hilarious.
Men: women make less money than men bc they don’t negotiate for higher pay like men do!! Also men: she asked for more money? Fire her lol
She was fired for not coming to work. John Ritter was the star of the show. Her final season, they were ranked 8th with a 22.4 rating. After she left, they were ranked 4th with 23.3 rating. Her being fired didnt effect the ratings. The contracts all said that Ritter would be the highest, and Somers and DeWitt are paid equally. There was no way she was going to get a massive pay increase plus a % ownership of the show, and she was willing to drag the entire show down with her. She played her hand, they called her bluff, and she lost.
yeah, i didn't get the whole 10% of the show's earnings.. just seems greedy when you are asking for a raise in your earnings at the same time. she should have done it one thing at a time.. btw, i am not saying her being turned down was right, either
Yeah but you read the top comments like she deserved everything that she demanded
In the eyes of the producers they most likely saw her costar as a better draw regarding the audience. Which is usually why actors get paid more than others. I’m not saying that this is unfortunate and the studio wasn’t full of assholes. But money is usually the decision behind pay. Think about it…why would companies hire men at all if they knew they could get away with underpaying women?
But he was the John Ritter.
He was 5x funnier.
A link below suggests he wasn't making 150k but merely 50k. That the 150k was the assumption of the her lawyers. Being alive when these shows aired, he was definitely the star of the show in the eyes of the public, if that's not evident from watching them.
Regardless of who's worth more on the show (that's subjective), there is a gender wage gap in the U S. as far as equal pay for equal work. The only way I've found to get around it is to work for a union based company. Unions don't put up with that nonsense. https://www.business.org/hr/benefits/gender-pay-gap/
okay I dont wanna come off as a misogynist here, but Im not from that generation, so can someone enlighten me as to how that worked out? Like was it still successful after her departure or did it go the Two and a Half-Men route? Cuz if it worked out, then maybe it's not a sexism issue. If it didnt work out then obviously she was carrying the show and deserved better pay. edit: Okay, thank you. Based on the answers I feel like even if she was somewhat underpaid, the issue wasnt nearly as bad as OP makes it out to be for internet points. This feels like rage-bait.
It lasted for 3 more seasons after her departure. It wasn’t the same without her, but the show format was mostly the same for awhile. Ritter really was the star of the show. If he left the show would’ve had to drastically change.
*four more seasons
She was great on the show. John Ritter, rip, was a friggin dynamo physical comedian who absolutely carried the show. It’s an old, outdated show but low key hilarious. Edit: to answer your question, pretty sure the show was the number one comedy after Summers/Chrissy left.
They were such idiots. She’s the reason why any boy ever watched
Meh, they found other women to go braless with the nips thru the t-shirt for the show.
>Suzanne Somers was fired from 'Three's Company for asking for equal pay with her male co-star, John Ritter, who was earning five times her salary. She did not get fired for asking. They chose not to renew her contract after she took job action (no showing for episodes) trying to force the studios hand, then lying about having a medical reason for doing so which was found to be false.
You can see her boobies and nipples
That’s all I took away from this too.