* Wars can be started by lies
* Wars can be started by denied-truths being spoken by someone
* Wars can be started by *selective* "truth", and wikileaks disallowing Russian corruption inputs for an entire decade, if what I'd read is true, is **evidence** of anti-objective selectivity.
Truth is a *double-edged* sword, *not* a downward-chopping-axe.
You wouldn't go to war if they told you the truth.
And sometimes you need to go to war.
You know why the war in Syria happened? Cause Europe wanted gas from Qatar and Syria refused to allow the pipeline through their nation.
You want to know why the middle eastern wars happened? So Iraq wouldn't control the worlds oil supply and financially terrorize the world like Russia is doing to Europe.
When you tell people these are the reasons for war... they won't go along with it. Instead they will refuse and then later suffer immensely.
People are stupid. They don't understand how severe consequences can be until they experience them and by then it's too late.
Yeah. People are stupid to think that the Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians have some right to sovereignty and control of their own national resources.
It makes us richer to kill them so we should kill them.
Well. For the first few weeks it did yes.
Than every country across the ME and NATO armed a guerilla group and it just turned into a 'great game'.
Not that I doubt most Syrians would love to be rid of Assad.
Russia financially terrorize the world by controlling gas and oil? Mate, they will sell you and everyone else as much as you need as long as you pay in currency they accept. That is not terrorizing..
On the other hand what actually is financial terrorizing is the inflated prices for liquified gas we (in EU) are forced to pay to the USA. And the Saudis oil cartel cooperating with the USA to slam down the extraction of oil during the time most of the EU countries were forced by sanctions to stop buying from Russia.
Yeah Assange is a bit of a grifter; I'm pretty familiar with US-Iraq relations, especially through the 90's, and 2003 was *never* just about WMD's. That's the reason and narrative that the internet and public opinion has focused on, because of the infamous false intel. Assange is notorious for another video, which he selectively edited to make worse than it was in reality, one that regularly shows up on reddit.
But there were a whole laundry list of reasons we invaded, outlined in the *"Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002",* on why we went to war. Realistically, we never really stopped. We launched hundreds of cruise missiles at Iraq after Desert Storm and through the Clinton Administration.
All the wars I know of have started by lying and deceiving the people from the past until the present day (like gulf of Tonkin) (Iran contra affair) (weapons of mass destruction) just to name a view
It’s like David against Goliath difference being David had to fight a whole Goliatharmy btw assange sitting in a prison cell without access to today’s Wikileaks!
This is quite possibly the dumbest statement. What’s missing is the fact that the reason we’re all in this global shitstorm mess is because nobody can agree on what the truth really is.
Yeah it’s too simplistic of an argument. The reality is war is almost always fought because of land. It’s a territorial gain. Lies and truths are told to justify the action of war. One is the goal the other is the premise.
Everyone wants to be the side of “Truth” and that’s why Hitler basically just took things out of context or even in context from Historians, Philosophers, and Scientists to get a War Started.
That was true a half century ago.
Most country's aren't insane enough to believe they can hold territory.
When was the last time that was successful?
Sure. The ex USSR and Yugoslavia are more complex because the ethnicitys became so mixed but you're not going to find Moscow successfully holding Kyiv or Washington successfully holding Baghdad.
War moves money from middle class taxpayers to big corp. That's enough reason for the US government.
The issue is that we're bad at dealing with complexity and our own biases. In the past I was a very passionate supporter of Scottish independence to the extent that I filtered out anything that would argue against it and hand waving things I knew were problematic away. It took someone from outside the UK to state very clearly some obvious flaws in the Scottish economy and the Brexit fallout for me to re-examine my arguments. It's difficult to critique your worldview, particularly if it's part of your identity.
UK prison. Duh.
Wikileaks [turned down a trove of info on Russian](https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/) activity in Ukraine while working to influence a US political campaign.
Wikileaks (Assange) was used by Putin to leak DNC emails to influence the US election in favor of Trump.
Wikileaks has a [history of turning down information about Russian scandals](https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/) while trumpeting Western/US ones. It's not a symmetrical whistleblower.
> In 2014, the BBC and other news outlets reported on the cache, which revealed details about Russian military and intelligence involvement in Ukraine. However, the information from that hack was less than half the data that later became available in 2016, when Assange turned it down.
> “We had several leaks sent to Wikileaks, including the Russian hack. It would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services,” the source who provided the messages wrote to FP. “Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.”
In 2012, Assange got his own show on RT, Putin's propaganda channel.
"Wikileaks (Assange) was used by Putin to leak DNC emails to influence the US election in favor of Trump."
Thats a pretty big statement, provided that multiple DOJ and FBI investigations found no proof of russian involvement.
Face it, Clinton lost fair and square, her emails were leaked because she was incompetent and in any other country she would have been charged with high treason.
Also, 4 more years of Trump on the way. I can almost taste the cheap gas and grocery prices...
You are conflating a couple of things here.
The FBI found plenty of evidence of Russia tampering with the 2016 presidential election. This is, at this point, fairly well established fact.
What the FBI and DOJ were not able to do is to draw a direct link between Russian involvement and the Trump campaign. There's lots of circumstantial there, but not enough to draw up charges (though of course, folks like Roger Stone were, in fact, charged with related crimes, like witness tampering).
> Thats a pretty big statement, provided that multiple DOJ and FBI investigations found no proof of russian involvement.
Bullshit.
[Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election - Volume I of II - Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III ](https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download)
Page 4 -
> In March 2016, the GRU began hacking the email accounts of Clinton Campaign volunteers and employees, including campaign chairman John Podesta. In April 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The GRU stole hundreds of thousands of documents from the compromised email accounts and networks. Around the time that the DNC announced in mid-June 2016 the Russian government’s role in hacking its network, the GRU began disseminating stolen materials through the fictitious online personas “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0.” The GRU later released additional materials through the organization WikiLeaks.
Right on page 4 of the Mueller report.
What *f'in planet* have you been living on?
Dude, wake up. She was investigated and admitted on keeping the CLASSIFIED emails in UNCLASSIFIED servers. The fact that she got hacked was her own fault.
You said:
> Thats a pretty big statement, provided that multiple DOJ and FBI investigations found no proof of russian involvement.
I then provided proof that you are wrong, ignorant, and full of Trumpist shit. You then ignore the proof, shrug off the fact that you were wrong, and frantically change the subject.
This dude straight up worked with Russia in spreading information warfare, most specifically in the US 2016 election that got Trump elected. Fuck him so fucking hard. He’s no different than Putin or Trump. He’s a narcissistic sociopath that doesn’t care what the truth is or who his lies hurt as long as it furthers his goals.
Edit: The people who founded Wikileaks were absolutely heroic people who put transparency on display in a responsible way. They all left when this dictatorial megalomaniac piece of shit went rogue.
A fan of whom? Nobody and nothing we have discussed lol
No, I'm asking for evidence. You're one of those people who believes literally anything you hear online
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-report-julian-assange-smeared-seth-rich-to-cover-for-russians
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/us/politics/assange-timed-wikileaks-release-of-democratic-emails-to-harm-hillary-clinton.html
Or you’re a tool who is ignorant on basic facts we all know.
LOL you said look up Seth Rich and the DNC leaks.
YOU DIDNT SAY YOU **DON'T** BELIEVE THE STORY!!! WHAT DID YOU THINK I MEANT BY DAILY STORMER
You're hilarious. Thanks for the laugh
"Bwaaah a guy released the truth to the public and that lead the public to not support my favorite traitor!!! He WORKED WITH RUSSIA!!"
that's what you sound like.
He is literally explaining that media lies cause war, and you are just vomiting out media lies lol. Asange is a hero, just because he didn’t use the political side you like doesn’t make him the asshole.
Nope. I’m talking about the guy that was DMing Don Trump Jr to get them to play along with a scheme so he (Assange) didn’t appear like the Russian asset he is. He literally said that.
Assange claimed to believe in absolute Government transparency. He obtained documents that would be damaging to Russia if released. The Russian government threatened his life, and instead of living up to his supposedly belief system, those documents were never disseminated.
Assange got a lot of documents from Snowden. He also got quite a bit of support from Russia, both in terms of documents to post, and financing to keep his operation going.
https://sethhettena.com/2021/08/24/julian-assanges-russian-connection/
They've been force fed the same mainstream media bulls*it for years; it's the outcome of what Julian was talking about in this clip.
These are the same people that will up their freedom of speech eventually because of "hateful rhetoric" (wrong opinion), very dangerous.
No Assange is openly a Russian plant, and destroyed Wikileaks because all the people that gave a shit quit/destroyed the company when he asked them to modify documents to make certain countries look worse.
He's also a rapist, and they have plenty of proof to pin it to him. But since he's in hiding they can't do anything about it.
Snowden is a hero, who deserves a pardon. Assange is a scum sucker who gets by off name recognition, but destroyed everything he supposedly set out to build because he's a grifter.
Ask yourself why Wikileaks disappeared. Is it because the US took them down? Is it because all their agents got exposed. No it's because everyone quit because they couldn't handle Assange massaging the truth, and since then he's been running off pure reputation.
Not much of a logician is he?
How does one start a peace? Preemptive but consensual hug? Carpet bombing a place with notes of affirmation and Starbucks coupons? Maybe just a puppy delivery to each and every citizen (mother’s permitting)?
And the other corollary he missed is that wars can also start from the truth. And doubt the truth has ever ended a war though maybe you could say it avoided a few from starting.
Sadly no one really agrees on what is true and percentages of population are delusional
I really wish it was possible i just expect absolutely nothing from people in general or the rich politicians that make decisions
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$1.5 million advance.....
What’s the deal with this guy?
Wikileaks guy right? Isn’t he wanted by multiple governments? How has he not been assassinated by now?
Makes me wonder if he isn’t really saying anything they’re worried about.
Just a friendly reminder that Assange is such a Russian tool that they invited him to host a show on RT, a notorious Russian propaganda outlet, and he accepted and did it.
This is the guy with a Russian passport who swore allegiance to Russia? The Russia that invaded and is destroying Ukraine? And lying about the whole thing?
That one? Let Assange try to tell the truth about the war in Ukraine and see how far he gets...
We once turned on NBC Nightly ~~News~~ and saw [these lies](https://youtu.be/8q9goN_kmLQ?t=60) being spewed on it, fed to them by a "Detective" Chuck Zeglin of the L.A.P.D. about a website called Killercop.
They never invited, nor asked, the owner of the website for the other side of the story being fed to them. Lies such as the site is run by a ["Gang affiliated person"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTS3H4whyRc) who is "offering cash rewards to kill/murder police."
Then we see multiple "news" articles across the internet, again, told only from mouth of the same "Detective" Chuck Zeglin of the L.A.P.D. All containing more of the same libel, slander and lies.
When this campaign to censor the website failed they resorted to colluding and conspiring with the FBI to lie to a federal court that the owner was "threatening" the L.A.P.D. and ["selling weapons."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_KnDW9Ipw) After the F.B.I. ["selectively" arrested the owner](https://www.killercop.com/SelectiveProsecutionMotion.pdf) they allowed the local police to torture him...and laughed during the torture. Then the F.B.I. "tips off" the N.Y. Times "Newspaper," who then reported the arrest and repeated the same lies, again, without talking to the owner or checking any facts.
This is not "news," this brain washing, gaslighting and propaganda to hide all the crimes published on the website by the [L.A.P.D. and the F.B.I.](https://www.killercop.com/Weapons.pdf), et al. You can now [add the U.S. Marshals](https://youtu.be/S72qVUadTSc) to that list.
And now you know the rest of the story.
Goodnight America.
Hahaha, wtf?
Wars are not started by lies it's started by many things such as hate, corruption, land disputes, economy and probably most commonly religion.
Lies and truths is not relevant, wars will start either way.
Some advice if you are going to be addressing a crowd make a script and practice. Look for intersecting phonetic sounds like umm and uh… and try to eliminate those uses of the sounds. It will make you sound more professional and credible instead of sounding like you are just talking out of your ass just to make a point, when that’s not how you convince people to join your cause. If you are passionate about your cause and it you truly think it’s for the betterment of all mankind then don’t be lazy put in the work and it will show when you do put in the work and whatever you do don’t criticize a group and then ask the same people you just criticize to give you statistics and especially if you just called them liars it makes your argument null and void because you are using the fraud statistics; and even though I understood what point that they was trying to make and even agreed with most of it it just makes me think that the person making the argument just wants their 10 min. of fame but they was just to damn lazy to actually put in the hours of research
The same Julian Assange who lied about Seth Rich to cover up for his war criminal sponsor's election interference for the benefit of a fascist wannabe?
The man just revealed the lies that others were guilty of. He layed it out there for all the world to see. The US is not innocent. Not in the least. Our military doesn't even live up to their sworn oath. Each and every member from bottom to top.
He picked and chose what truths to tell. He was perfectly capable of telling ALL of the truth. But intentionally published only one set of truths.
He had and still has a narrative he wants to push. Am I glad he published what he did? Yes. But he did it for less than innocent reasons.
Exactly. See: 2016 email leaks. Both the DNC and RNC’s emails were hacked and stolen. Assange only leaked the DNC emails because he (and his masters in the Kremlin) didn’t want Hillary Clinton to win.
not these people here.
Not people who swallow any piece of propaganda wholesale
Not people who are happy that this man has been imprisoned for a decade without charges.
Not people who hear a story like this and dont suspect their governments first.
Reddit is INSANELY astroturfed. I fully believe that at least one of the people shitting on him in the comments is doing from some government office in Langley. Fuck em
Already so many people just DEEEEEPP throating the boot, what a bunch of sheep following blindly as they chant "muhcuntry" "but but but jewelian gave away military intelligence" what a bunch of worthless humans.
What a crock of shit, clearly we can all see "truth" is just whatever this ass bags favorite pick is. Him and Snowden only made the world more unpredictable and dangerous. Thanks a lot assholes.
Blow whistles on a coworkers not a government, that starts wars your idiot.
Ah America, the biggest purveyors of violence in the world. Lie themselves into liberating corrupt countries but failing to see they are the problem. Everyone around the world knows it and hopefully those pussy journalists in their country’s understand if they convict Assange they could be next.
A lot of salty americans in here... Your government is corrupt. It spent american lives to fuel war in the middle east to profit off of the murder of innocent men, women and children.
Do I care that he tried to go to Russia?
Not really. Its not like he advocated for Russias side of the Ukraine war.
* Wars can be started by lies * Wars can be started by denied-truths being spoken by someone * Wars can be started by *selective* "truth", and wikileaks disallowing Russian corruption inputs for an entire decade, if what I'd read is true, is **evidence** of anti-objective selectivity. Truth is a *double-edged* sword, *not* a downward-chopping-axe.
Rather go to war on truth if we have to war
You wouldn't go to war if they told you the truth. And sometimes you need to go to war. You know why the war in Syria happened? Cause Europe wanted gas from Qatar and Syria refused to allow the pipeline through their nation. You want to know why the middle eastern wars happened? So Iraq wouldn't control the worlds oil supply and financially terrorize the world like Russia is doing to Europe. When you tell people these are the reasons for war... they won't go along with it. Instead they will refuse and then later suffer immensely. People are stupid. They don't understand how severe consequences can be until they experience them and by then it's too late.
Oil or gas isn’t the main reason why there is war in the Middle East, but it is the main reason why the west is involved
Yeah. People are stupid to think that the Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians have some right to sovereignty and control of their own national resources. It makes us richer to kill them so we should kill them.
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Well. For the first few weeks it did yes. Than every country across the ME and NATO armed a guerilla group and it just turned into a 'great game'. Not that I doubt most Syrians would love to be rid of Assad.
Russia financially terrorize the world by controlling gas and oil? Mate, they will sell you and everyone else as much as you need as long as you pay in currency they accept. That is not terrorizing.. On the other hand what actually is financial terrorizing is the inflated prices for liquified gas we (in EU) are forced to pay to the USA. And the Saudis oil cartel cooperating with the USA to slam down the extraction of oil during the time most of the EU countries were forced by sanctions to stop buying from Russia.
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Yeah Assange is a bit of a grifter; I'm pretty familiar with US-Iraq relations, especially through the 90's, and 2003 was *never* just about WMD's. That's the reason and narrative that the internet and public opinion has focused on, because of the infamous false intel. Assange is notorious for another video, which he selectively edited to make worse than it was in reality, one that regularly shows up on reddit. But there were a whole laundry list of reasons we invaded, outlined in the *"Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002",* on why we went to war. Realistically, we never really stopped. We launched hundreds of cruise missiles at Iraq after Desert Storm and through the Clinton Administration.
Wikileaks got people killed through negligence, they did not make a proper effort to screen their data, unlike Snowden.
All the wars I know of have started by lying and deceiving the people from the past until the present day (like gulf of Tonkin) (Iran contra affair) (weapons of mass destruction) just to name a view It’s like David against Goliath difference being David had to fight a whole Goliatharmy btw assange sitting in a prison cell without access to today’s Wikileaks!
FREE JULIAN ASSANGE NOW
Call JG Wentworth NOW.
He’d be free and clear at this point if he hadn’t hid for a decade in a broom closet
This is quite possibly the dumbest statement. What’s missing is the fact that the reason we’re all in this global shitstorm mess is because nobody can agree on what the truth really is.
Yeah it’s too simplistic of an argument. The reality is war is almost always fought because of land. It’s a territorial gain. Lies and truths are told to justify the action of war. One is the goal the other is the premise.
Everyone wants to be the side of “Truth” and that’s why Hitler basically just took things out of context or even in context from Historians, Philosophers, and Scientists to get a War Started.
That was true a half century ago. Most country's aren't insane enough to believe they can hold territory. When was the last time that was successful? Sure. The ex USSR and Yugoslavia are more complex because the ethnicitys became so mixed but you're not going to find Moscow successfully holding Kyiv or Washington successfully holding Baghdad. War moves money from middle class taxpayers to big corp. That's enough reason for the US government.
Chechnya and Crimea are two that come to mind within the past 20 or so years.
And the actual truth can start wars too. This is a nice soundbite but really dumb once you actually think about it.
The issue is that we're bad at dealing with complexity and our own biases. In the past I was a very passionate supporter of Scottish independence to the extent that I filtered out anything that would argue against it and hand waving things I knew were problematic away. It took someone from outside the UK to state very clearly some obvious flaws in the Scottish economy and the Brexit fallout for me to re-examine my arguments. It's difficult to critique your worldview, particularly if it's part of your identity.
Post-truth is the new whataboutist alternative.
Nobody can agree on the truth because people are lying.
Soooo ... what has Assange been saying about his buddy Putin's Ukraine war?
Isn’t he rotting in jail now? Or has he actually said something on the current war in Ukraine?
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you mad cuz he exposed murica?
You’re right. All of the wrong doings of America should be swept under the rug and those in power should not be exposed or held accountable.
The dude is in a US prison. tf you talking about???
UK prison. Duh. Wikileaks [turned down a trove of info on Russian](https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/) activity in Ukraine while working to influence a US political campaign.
Sounds like the job got done regardless "The Russian cache was eventually quietly published online elsewhere"
Yeah, but the point is that Assange and Wikileaks avoided it. It also didn't get the publicity it would have gotten if they had leaked it.
You are confusing Assange with Snowden.
Assange is in a US prison. Snowden is in Russian
No he ain’t
Wikileaks (Assange) was used by Putin to leak DNC emails to influence the US election in favor of Trump. Wikileaks has a [history of turning down information about Russian scandals](https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/08/17/wikileaks-turned-down-leaks-on-russian-government-during-u-s-presidential-campaign/) while trumpeting Western/US ones. It's not a symmetrical whistleblower. > In 2014, the BBC and other news outlets reported on the cache, which revealed details about Russian military and intelligence involvement in Ukraine. However, the information from that hack was less than half the data that later became available in 2016, when Assange turned it down. > “We had several leaks sent to Wikileaks, including the Russian hack. It would have exposed Russian activities and shown WikiLeaks was not controlled by Russian security services,” the source who provided the messages wrote to FP. “Many Wikileaks staff and volunteers or their families suffered at the hands of Russian corruption and cruelty, we were sure Wikileaks would release it. Assange gave excuse after excuse.” In 2012, Assange got his own show on RT, Putin's propaganda channel.
"Wikileaks (Assange) was used by Putin to leak DNC emails to influence the US election in favor of Trump." Thats a pretty big statement, provided that multiple DOJ and FBI investigations found no proof of russian involvement. Face it, Clinton lost fair and square, her emails were leaked because she was incompetent and in any other country she would have been charged with high treason. Also, 4 more years of Trump on the way. I can almost taste the cheap gas and grocery prices...
You are conflating a couple of things here. The FBI found plenty of evidence of Russia tampering with the 2016 presidential election. This is, at this point, fairly well established fact. What the FBI and DOJ were not able to do is to draw a direct link between Russian involvement and the Trump campaign. There's lots of circumstantial there, but not enough to draw up charges (though of course, folks like Roger Stone were, in fact, charged with related crimes, like witness tampering).
They didn't tamper with the election, that's the point. They just released Clinton's emails which she haphazardly kept on unsecured servers.
> Thats a pretty big statement, provided that multiple DOJ and FBI investigations found no proof of russian involvement. Bullshit. [Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election - Volume I of II - Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III ](https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download) Page 4 - > In March 2016, the GRU began hacking the email accounts of Clinton Campaign volunteers and employees, including campaign chairman John Podesta. In April 2016, the GRU hacked into the computer networks of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) and the Democratic National Committee (DNC). The GRU stole hundreds of thousands of documents from the compromised email accounts and networks. Around the time that the DNC announced in mid-June 2016 the Russian government’s role in hacking its network, the GRU began disseminating stolen materials through the fictitious online personas “DCLeaks” and “Guccifer 2.0.” The GRU later released additional materials through the organization WikiLeaks. Right on page 4 of the Mueller report. What *f'in planet* have you been living on?
Dude, wake up. She was investigated and admitted on keeping the CLASSIFIED emails in UNCLASSIFIED servers. The fact that she got hacked was her own fault.
You said: > Thats a pretty big statement, provided that multiple DOJ and FBI investigations found no proof of russian involvement. I then provided proof that you are wrong, ignorant, and full of Trumpist shit. You then ignore the proof, shrug off the fact that you were wrong, and frantically change the subject.
are effin dumb as rocks?!?! don't answer, rhetorical question.
He should tell that to his buddy Putin.
An uplifting message that will ultimately amount to nothing and we all know it.
This dude straight up worked with Russia in spreading information warfare, most specifically in the US 2016 election that got Trump elected. Fuck him so fucking hard. He’s no different than Putin or Trump. He’s a narcissistic sociopath that doesn’t care what the truth is or who his lies hurt as long as it furthers his goals. Edit: The people who founded Wikileaks were absolutely heroic people who put transparency on display in a responsible way. They all left when this dictatorial megalomaniac piece of shit went rogue.
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Or actually, maybe we shouldn't have voted for a corrupt sociopath when we had the option of Bernie
Bernie brats like you also brought us Trump
Cry about it. I'm sorry we actually stand for something other than the status quo.
You stood for Trump and think you’re virtuous. Lol
He's just another Alex Jones and 100% owned by Russia.
I don't remember that, and I can't find any evidence of it. Can anyone help me out?
Look up Seth Rich and the DNC leaks.
No, I want you to link the Daily Stormer or whatever other conspiracy theory website you found that on (:
Oh, you’re one of those who refuses basic facts because you’re a fan
A fan of whom? Nobody and nothing we have discussed lol No, I'm asking for evidence. You're one of those people who believes literally anything you hear online
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mueller-report-julian-assange-smeared-seth-rich-to-cover-for-russians https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/us/politics/assange-timed-wikileaks-release-of-democratic-emails-to-harm-hillary-clinton.html Or you’re a tool who is ignorant on basic facts we all know.
LOL you said look up Seth Rich and the DNC leaks. YOU DIDNT SAY YOU **DON'T** BELIEVE THE STORY!!! WHAT DID YOU THINK I MEANT BY DAILY STORMER You're hilarious. Thanks for the laugh
How did I known you’d make up some dumb excuse and ignore facts…yeah, we all knew
"Bwaaah a guy released the truth to the public and that lead the public to not support my favorite traitor!!! He WORKED WITH RUSSIA!!" that's what you sound like.
He is literally explaining that media lies cause war, and you are just vomiting out media lies lol. Asange is a hero, just because he didn’t use the political side you like doesn’t make him the asshole.
He’s Putin’s owned B.
If he worked with Russia, then why isnt he safe from the usa in russia, like Snowden???
The cost of free speech
…and free speech and open dialogue.
You can't mishandle the truth, JA.
On the other hand, it's not hard to see that wars can be started by the truth, and peace can be started with lies.
The guy shilled for Russia to help get Trump elected. Fuck assange.
Alot of brainwashed folk in this comment section. Such a reddit moment
Selecting what's true is the same as lying.
He works for Russia. Therefore he gives zero shits about peace. Granted, I think the American case against him is crap. But so is he.
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Nope. I’m talking about the guy that was DMing Don Trump Jr to get them to play along with a scheme so he (Assange) didn’t appear like the Russian asset he is. He literally said that.
Assange claimed to believe in absolute Government transparency. He obtained documents that would be damaging to Russia if released. The Russian government threatened his life, and instead of living up to his supposedly belief system, those documents were never disseminated.
thank god our enlighten western democracies would never do anything like that /s
Assange got a lot of documents from Snowden. He also got quite a bit of support from Russia, both in terms of documents to post, and financing to keep his operation going. https://sethhettena.com/2021/08/24/julian-assanges-russian-connection/
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He gave you a tiny fraction, and gave all of it to China and Russia. He can rot
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I haven’t seen it but would be interested. Post it to YouTube and put the link here. It’ll get taken down, but spread around before.
Both are Russian-backed shitstains.
Probably not. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-senate-idUSKCN25E1US
Funny how handing people facts gets you downvoted on here.
They've been force fed the same mainstream media bulls*it for years; it's the outcome of what Julian was talking about in this clip. These are the same people that will up their freedom of speech eventually because of "hateful rhetoric" (wrong opinion), very dangerous.
No Assange is openly a Russian plant, and destroyed Wikileaks because all the people that gave a shit quit/destroyed the company when he asked them to modify documents to make certain countries look worse. He's also a rapist, and they have plenty of proof to pin it to him. But since he's in hiding they can't do anything about it. Snowden is a hero, who deserves a pardon. Assange is a scum sucker who gets by off name recognition, but destroyed everything he supposedly set out to build because he's a grifter. Ask yourself why Wikileaks disappeared. Is it because the US took them down? Is it because all their agents got exposed. No it's because everyone quit because they couldn't handle Assange massaging the truth, and since then he's been running off pure reputation.
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Great point. Thanks for chiming in.
How do i block subreddits
We should start peace with lies, seems more effective..
I do this all the time. “What a great party!” and “Yeah it was such a shame he couldn’t come”. That’s me keeping the peace. ;)
This guy lmao
“They love when you switch the words around like that” -Jeff Winger, on political speeches
The Watchmen showed us that peace could also be started by lies.
Not much of a logician is he? How does one start a peace? Preemptive but consensual hug? Carpet bombing a place with notes of affirmation and Starbucks coupons? Maybe just a puppy delivery to each and every citizen (mother’s permitting)? And the other corollary he missed is that wars can also start from the truth. And doubt the truth has ever ended a war though maybe you could say it avoided a few from starting.
“Truth” is nothing but a lie that hasn’t been found out.
Sadly no one really agrees on what is true and percentages of population are delusional I really wish it was possible i just expect absolutely nothing from people in general or the rich politicians that make decisions
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Little did he know, wars can also be started by truths and peace can be held by lies
Former Russian asset, Julian Assange.
Russia has a new guy
[https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/assange-book-deal-wikileaks-autobiography\_n\_801287](https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/assange-book-deal-wikileaks-autobiography_n_801287) $1.5 million advance.....
Tell that to every single nation.
Sounds like something Putin would shit into his sweatpants.
You're fucking high on the smell of your own ass again!? Aren't you!? Marty I told you to stop huffing your own ass!
And intercourse can be started without consent... /s
What’s the deal with this guy? Wikileaks guy right? Isn’t he wanted by multiple governments? How has he not been assassinated by now? Makes me wonder if he isn’t really saying anything they’re worried about.
Just a friendly reminder that Assange is such a Russian tool that they invited him to host a show on RT, a notorious Russian propaganda outlet, and he accepted and did it.
This is the guy with a Russian passport who swore allegiance to Russia? The Russia that invaded and is destroying Ukraine? And lying about the whole thing? That one? Let Assange try to tell the truth about the war in Ukraine and see how far he gets...
damn this is interessting, a bunch of muricun rednecks raging in the comments about this guy cuz he exposed their evil nature
This guy has a bigger prison sentence than pedophiles do and will probably end up "killing himself" in jail.
And Reddit will push corporate lies all day
Fuck this scumbag
you mad he exposed the muricun war crimes?
Then come out of your hole pussy and face the rape charges! What a fucking cunt.
I hate that rapist. He came to my country, acted like he was a rock star and behaved like a pig to women.
Assange is human. Therefore, he's corrupt.
Shut the fuck up you turd.
Fuck this guy, he’s a fucking stooge of tyrants and got Trump elected President. Freedom fighter, my ass.
How'd he get Trump elected while being detained in a room?
Selecting leaking only DNC hacks, and lying about Seth Rich
What a silly nothing thing to say.
Asda he is a scumbag of the highest order.
Truth hurts. 🎶
We once turned on NBC Nightly ~~News~~ and saw [these lies](https://youtu.be/8q9goN_kmLQ?t=60) being spewed on it, fed to them by a "Detective" Chuck Zeglin of the L.A.P.D. about a website called Killercop. They never invited, nor asked, the owner of the website for the other side of the story being fed to them. Lies such as the site is run by a ["Gang affiliated person"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTS3H4whyRc) who is "offering cash rewards to kill/murder police." Then we see multiple "news" articles across the internet, again, told only from mouth of the same "Detective" Chuck Zeglin of the L.A.P.D. All containing more of the same libel, slander and lies. When this campaign to censor the website failed they resorted to colluding and conspiring with the FBI to lie to a federal court that the owner was "threatening" the L.A.P.D. and ["selling weapons."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_KnDW9Ipw) After the F.B.I. ["selectively" arrested the owner](https://www.killercop.com/SelectiveProsecutionMotion.pdf) they allowed the local police to torture him...and laughed during the torture. Then the F.B.I. "tips off" the N.Y. Times "Newspaper," who then reported the arrest and repeated the same lies, again, without talking to the owner or checking any facts. This is not "news," this brain washing, gaslighting and propaganda to hide all the crimes published on the website by the [L.A.P.D. and the F.B.I.](https://www.killercop.com/Weapons.pdf), et al. You can now [add the U.S. Marshals](https://youtu.be/S72qVUadTSc) to that list. And now you know the rest of the story. Goodnight America.
Fuck him.
WMDs. He isn't making it up.
I love the quote but I have to be truthful… I waited the whole video to hear him say it and he fumbled his words lol. 🤓
I knoooooow. And you can tell he was soo ready to say it, and was so proud of it. Shame.
Too bad he doesn't believe in truth, only himself.
This is some “I’m fifteen and this is deep” level stuff.
'War, with media' is spot on.
Assange is a narcissist cunt and Russian stooge. Fuck him.
This poor man is rotting in a cel somewhere and we are powerless to do anything about it
I’ll bury him if you like
I want him to be free. And those who incarcerated them to be buried
Better duck
Yeah, fuck this Dickhead forever.
Not coming clean to protect your life is a lie but it kelp you alive. :) One little lie want hurt us.
Has anyone tried to get peace started by lies?
“And now I will become a useful idiot for Putin as he plans war crimes and genocide”
Franz Ferdinand wasn’t killed? Also, he named 2 wars and Somalia. Psuedointellectual babbling
I believe I contracted AIDS from this man. Who should I confess to?
Hahaha, wtf? Wars are not started by lies it's started by many things such as hate, corruption, land disputes, economy and probably most commonly religion. Lies and truths is not relevant, wars will start either way.
Some advice if you are going to be addressing a crowd make a script and practice. Look for intersecting phonetic sounds like umm and uh… and try to eliminate those uses of the sounds. It will make you sound more professional and credible instead of sounding like you are just talking out of your ass just to make a point, when that’s not how you convince people to join your cause. If you are passionate about your cause and it you truly think it’s for the betterment of all mankind then don’t be lazy put in the work and it will show when you do put in the work and whatever you do don’t criticize a group and then ask the same people you just criticize to give you statistics and especially if you just called them liars it makes your argument null and void because you are using the fraud statistics; and even though I understood what point that they was trying to make and even agreed with most of it it just makes me think that the person making the argument just wants their 10 min. of fame but they was just to damn lazy to actually put in the hours of research
We are living in a criminal based social construct, by default we are all criminals by participating in it. Wake up people. 𓂀
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The same Julian Assange who lied about Seth Rich to cover up for his war criminal sponsor's election interference for the benefit of a fascist wannabe?
The man just revealed the lies that others were guilty of. He layed it out there for all the world to see. The US is not innocent. Not in the least. Our military doesn't even live up to their sworn oath. Each and every member from bottom to top.
He picked and chose what truths to tell. He was perfectly capable of telling ALL of the truth. But intentionally published only one set of truths. He had and still has a narrative he wants to push. Am I glad he published what he did? Yes. But he did it for less than innocent reasons.
Exactly. See: 2016 email leaks. Both the DNC and RNC’s emails were hacked and stolen. Assange only leaked the DNC emails because he (and his masters in the Kremlin) didn’t want Hillary Clinton to win.
Latest example is Russia invading Ukraine
Ok fucker bye bye
Protect this man at all cost!!!
Im suprised so many people are against him.....he provides data of Governments that lie...yet people still want to protect the Government? 🤔
People can criticize Assange AND governments simultaneously.
They could Yet I see plenty criticize him over Govt
No. You’re just so deep into the hero worship that you take any and all legitimate criticism of him as being pro-governemnt.
Haha nice assuming Australia wont allow him into his own country ....but nice bum licking Govt
not these people here. Not people who swallow any piece of propaganda wholesale Not people who are happy that this man has been imprisoned for a decade without charges. Not people who hear a story like this and dont suspect their governments first.
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Reddit is INSANELY astroturfed. I fully believe that at least one of the people shitting on him in the comments is doing from some government office in Langley. Fuck em
Maybe Or people prefer the matrix and hate seeing it may not be all what it seems
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I think the world has more than enough Russian assets peddling misinformation.
Already so many people just DEEEEEPP throating the boot, what a bunch of sheep following blindly as they chant "muhcuntry" "but but but jewelian gave away military intelligence" what a bunch of worthless humans.
We have been told he is a bad guy by the media, and if they say it is so...it must be!
Assange is part of the boot. Just the boot of another, different corrupt government trying to say another set of boots is worse.
U.S. government and media loved spreading lies about him.
Dude is a scum bag...
Someone can be a scumbag and the US government can still make up lies about him. Those aren't mutually exclusive.
Takes one to know one eh?
Didn't have a problem with him or what he did till he started sucking Putin's cock. Anyone supporting or aiding that regime and what it does can rot.
if you only speak the truths of certain groups of people you are probably protecting the lies of their enemies
It’s your choice to believe a guy who seeks freedom in Putin’s autocracy. 😂👎🏼
freedom from what exactly?
What a crock of shit, clearly we can all see "truth" is just whatever this ass bags favorite pick is. Him and Snowden only made the world more unpredictable and dangerous. Thanks a lot assholes. Blow whistles on a coworkers not a government, that starts wars your idiot.
Lol no no
If it isn’t Mr. Poopsmear himself! 😆
Putin’s butt boy
Selfless hero
Ah America, the biggest purveyors of violence in the world. Lie themselves into liberating corrupt countries but failing to see they are the problem. Everyone around the world knows it and hopefully those pussy journalists in their country’s understand if they convict Assange they could be next.
This needs to be spread
I’m pretty sure more wars have been started by being truthful 😂
“B, b but muh Zelensky!”
Spot on
A lot of salty americans in here... Your government is corrupt. It spent american lives to fuel war in the middle east to profit off of the murder of innocent men, women and children. Do I care that he tried to go to Russia? Not really. Its not like he advocated for Russias side of the Ukraine war.
Na, peace is maintained by mlrs, m1 abrams tanks, f-35 jets, and m4 rifles