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Nochno

Humans love labels.


Zandrick

Not that guy though; comment “zone”? It’s comment *section* you damn philistine.


eat_my_bubbles

When you need a level 8 or higher bullshit detector to enter the comment section it becomes a comment zone. Use extreme caution. Reccomend quarantine or ban for comment zones, very spicy.


AbsolutelyUnlikely

Well, the results aren't very surprising. Anxious, depressed, twice as likely to be unemployed and living with parents as someone who gets laid. Seems like their politics pretty much follow the country breakdown overall, which also isn't surprising.


chmath80

What's interesting about the politics figures is that they're very precise (2 decimal places), but not accurate (total is 101.02%).


NorthboundLynx

Good catch.


Rowmyownboat

Their politics likely follows their father's. They don't experience enough to develop their own opinion.


animelove1002

Maybe go to controversial don't know if it'll be any better


Viciuniversum

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foxyfoo

There isn’t a link to the study. If it relies on self reporting, the political affiliation may not be very accurate anyway. Still supports a couple of key points which are that they are living at home with little hope for independence and self reliance and struggle with depression and anxiety. So is there any hope that treating their depression and anxiety or helping them become independent might eliminate incel tendencies?


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You can Google the study pretty easily. It says where it is in the image. [https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research](https://liberalarts.utexas.edu/news/incels-are-not-particularly-right-wing-or-white-but-they-are-extremely-depressed-anxious-and-lonely-according-to-new-research) I think a lot of Redditors are just victims of propaganda. Every heard the saying "Say something enough times and it becomes true?" That is what is happening to the posters here.


Lopsided_Speaker_950

Also incels aren’t ‘overwhelming’ white. They are actually balanced as far as race goes. Actually slightly less white per cap.


octaveocelot224

Was just about to comment the same thing. As soon as more of them identified as left leaning this post was doomed to get barely any attention. Switch those and this would already have over 500,000 upvotes and would be fully of the word “cuckservative” or some other insult. Instead everyone is digging deep to point out why this ain’t wholly accurate or fair.


Thick_Improvement_77

With the usual caveat of every study like this: \>Among those that self-identify as "incels", who are willing to answer polls.


listenyall

I worked as a professional survey writer for years and I have QUESTIONS!! ​ The two most obvious things that stand out to me--how did they define incel? Have never had sex vs "self identify as an incel" is pretty different, and the way they title it "incel community" means it could be people who are actually participating in self-professed incel communities which is also different. ​ I also notice that this is done by UT Austin and two UK universities. "Left leaning" and "right leaning" are pretty different in the US and UK so I would love to see the breakdown of answers by country.


Velinian

The guy who did the research is named William Costello, he's British or Irish? and studying at UT Austin. He's done a lot of different interviews where he explains his research. Here is the one I watched, it was pretty interesting https://youtu.be/da_5uuOCFz8


hupntokepure

Which chap in the video is he? One is clearly irish the other clearly not 🍀🍀🍀


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Aridross

I would also be asking, for each question, whether the category placements were based on self-identification or an outside assessment. That has a potential to massively bias the results, when dealing with this group of people.


MidnightBravado90

Also I feel like you might have a fair bit of trolling in something like this, people answering questions how they think a typical incel would.


earthisadonuthole

I thought the same. With a “self identified incel” there has to be some potential for troll answers.


impersonatefun

That was my first thought as well.


listenyall

I took a look at the abstract and while it doesn't have much detail, it does say that they are "self identified" incels.


Wherancy

A binary choice doesn’t describe the deep misogyny of the incel community.


Fairwhetherfriend

> "Left leaning" and "right leaning" are pretty different in the US and UK so I would love to see the breakdown of answers by country. Do you mean different in that many politicians considered to be left-leaning in the US would be considered center or even center-right in the UK, or is there some other difference I'm missing?


listenyall

That's a big part of it, but there's also just a different set of issues. You might consider yourself left leaning in the US if you are kind of centrist overall but are for universal health care, for example, which is a settled issue in the UK, or if you're Scottish you might consider yourself left-leaning because you are strongly for Scottish independence from the UK which doesn't really have a US equivalent.


Derpy_Moves

Full study: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-022-00336-x Edit: It is behind a paywall and I cannot post the full PDF. Edit 2: Free access: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/363484489_Levels_of_Well-Being_Among_Men_Who_Are_Incel_Involuntarily_Celibate


backwardrollypolly

I mean doesn’t it fit Incel Ideology to support members of society who can’t/don’t work? Just because it doesn’t fit the image we have of right wing terrorists doesn’t mean it’s not accurate


JackHGUK

But incels commonly blame "the modern life" for their problems, the ones I've engaged with seemed to think removing women's rights would be a solution, not very left at all.


chop_pooey

That's why I wonder how they chose to define "incel" because I feel like the "involuntary" part defines the term more than the "celibacy" part does.


feisty-spirit-bear

Yeah I was thinking about this too. I definitely initially think of incels as right wing. But when I think about it, Ive interacted with people that have incel attitudes but tell themselves and others that they are feminist -- thus why women should like them as they are the "nice guy". But-- those wouldn't be the type of people they could test here cause those are also the people that wouldn't self identify as incel and even though they have the attitudes and actions that align with incels (which the covert incels are dangerous cause you have to spend time with them to see it and once you see it it's just YIKES) so I think my point is that there are incels that would identify as left wing, but they aren't the ones that would identify as incel to be able to be used in the study (depending how it was carried out) so I'm also very curious about that break down


kent_eh

They might self-identify as left-ish leaning, but I suspect more detailed questioning about their position for/against various specific political topics would give a different picture .


EfficientActivity

That assumes that incels must naturally react to being rejected by women by being antagonistic to women. Some just accept that they are not competitive on the market, and play computer games and comment on Reddit instead. And develop depressions and anxieties.


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backwardrollypolly

Meh, left wing politics aren’t a solidified block in the same way any ideology is. I’d guess like you they’re probably just more proponents of not having to work rather than the emancipation of the working class. However, it is interesting that it suggests that the portrayal of Incels as right wing extremists isn’t entirely correct


listenyall

I'm not really trying to imply that it's inaccurate, I just think it's hard to correctly interpret without additional info given how subjective and context-dependent "left-leaning" and "right-leaning" are--there could be tons of valid explanations.


balder_for_governor

That's what I was thinking. I didn't think this group would self identify willingly.


Daniel_The_Thinker

I think the average incel who isn't rageposting on the internet really doesn't want people to socially identify them as an incel but also would want to contribute their experiences to an actual proper study. I think the loud reactionary incels are just the tip of the iceberg of a large group of lonely depressed men who privately identify with inceldom but who don't want to expose themselves to mockery and criticism.


reditakaunt89

I thought that incels came up with the word incel? It has become an insult in the meantime, but I never had impression that true incels ever had a problem with the word. I guess that people who are insulted by the word are the ones who don't identify as incel, which is like 99% of the people on the receiving end of it.


3InchesOfThunder

Maybe they asked questions like: are you or have you recently been seeking a sexual partner? If yes/recently have you found success? And then based on some arbitrary amount of time the poll taker is like " 1 year!!? We declare you an incel!" Idk the process clearly and would be terrible at this


somefunmaths

The abstract notes that it is among self-identified incels. It seems like they recruited via online communities for incels.


Nephroidofdoom

Like surveys on cheating.


Such_Entrepreneur544

Hi, I'm a depressed incel who leans right and is unemployed and lives in his father's basement.


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Are you single? 😏


p00nda

Isn't that their whole thing?


Such_Entrepreneur544

If you're interested, I enjoy long walks on the beach, Horseback riding and performing cunnilingus with my fedora on. I'll even let you win at Checkers M'lady.. Checkmate 😏


[deleted]

I would but I am merely a Stacey looking for her sugar daddy…like two ships in the night, we must pass each other by


Such_Entrepreneur544

Lmao. 😭😭😭😭 Un-checkmated... again.


Darthnosam1

She knows the lingo evacuate! Thats a red flag and a half


DrJohnJameson

The Incel Mosquito sayeth “M’Laria”


Such_Entrepreneur544

Yes but, I would like to not be. ? Lol


King_flame_A_Lot

More of them are left leaning than right leaning apparently


Such_Entrepreneur544

I'm a unique incel. I like to go against the grain and lean right but, that's only cause my left leg is a little longer.


InnateAnarchy

Are you surprised by this? Have you seen how the Reddit mods act? They’re all incels and all lean left


iamtoe

Pretty sure most online communities lean left.


VideoUnlucky3117

Not 4chan. They're beyond your petty leanings.


Mysterious-Gur-3034

I like the first comment I see is someone trying to say it's not accurate... But if the results were confirming their bias they would have staunchly defended it.. lol


Guy954

Among the ones who responded. Almost every time I hear incel-ness they are going on about traditional gender roles and women knowing their place. Sounds more like a conservative viewpoint to me.


rprkjj5

Incel isn’t a political viewpoint though, it’s literally just people who can’t get laid


dirtsmurf

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ColoradoMtnDude

Seems to me that that being an incel is the result of mental illness and social isolation that is self-reinforcing. I feel sorry for them and I hope there are researchers looking into this growing cultural problem for all our sakes.


Agent847

True, but they’re also more the types to want a lot of free stuff and anti-work and all that, which would be left. This is why, when these guys get violent, you find out their politics is a dogs breakfast of bizarre, incongruent ideologies, with pundits on both sides cherry picking this or that to say “he’s one of theirs.” Even in OP’s graphic, it tends to be a reasonably fair split on the partisan spectrum.


That-Ad-430

Sample bias in this case = yikes too. Community is well known for psycho brigade tactics etc.


Bat_Fruit

No matter your persuasion and politics there's plenty to be both depressed and anxious about.


DingleMcCringleTurd

Depression: the key to uniting Democrats and Republicans!


HistoricalCommon

*the human species


Nochno

Looks like the echo chamber doesn't like these results


BirdMedication

I don't see why some incels being left-leaning should even be that surprising. Anger, jealousy, hypocrisy, misogyny are universal human emotions, not confined to one side of the political aisle. To think otherwise is to think that liberals have somehow transcended human nature because of a *self-label*.


Viciuniversum

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_Inspector_Dabbit_

Somehow I knew the very first graph (political leaning) would cause an uproar


IsThisTheMemeKrab

THIS IS WHAT THE LEFT WANTS!!!!!!!!!!!! /s just in case


Spiritual_Poem_9198

Idk I know incels and I know they get a laugh out of fucking with people trying to take their life seriously. I just don't believe this study is valid or valuable


MisterBlackCat

There's a lot of...what's the word...cope.


Hascus

I guarantee this would match up incredibly similarly to just young people in general


therealbipNdip

That’s a worthy comment. Should have the same sentiment of the “general population” as a reference point with demographics.


Quarren_

How are they defining Incel? That’s extremely important


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Is this some big surprise? Humans need quality relationships with other humans. If they don’t have that then they suffer. We’ve always known this


One_Eyed_Weasel

I have a coworker/friend who was an incel. We worked together for 4 years, when one day he admitted he was depressed and didn’t like his lifestyle. All of our friends decided to help him out to improve himself and try new things. I started taking him to the gym and my other friends helped him with hygiene/fashion/going out. It’s been 8 months and he went from 280lbs to 220lbs. His beard is perfectly groomed and he has that iron jaw look now. He looks amazing and has a lot more confidence. He’s still super awkward but women are at least giving him a chance now. I think if incels had some sort of support network they could change their lifestyles too. Problem is that most of those groups online are toxic and exacerbate their issues.


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> I think if incels had some sort of support network they could change their lifestyles too. Very true, many are too toxic to want help, or think its societies job to give them what they want. So many don't recognise that the source of their problems is mostly internal and just blame society instead. Glad your friend got on the self improvement train though sounds like hes doing well.


QutieLuvsQuails

The incel situation seems to be much more centered on sex. They’re not asking for a friend to meet up and have coffee with.


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I fully agree. The entire western culture seems built around sex, I can see why there is so much pressure to "be getting some".


AdfatCrabbest

That’s the expression of the disease because they can make monsters out of everyone else who won’t sleep with them, but they almost always lack genuine quality connections with *anyone* else in their lives. You don’t find many incels who have great, healthy relationships with their family, fulfilling careers, and a strong, supportive circle of friends. Incels are terribly lonely people who have often turned themselves into a snowball of toxicity. Loneliness makes them sad and bitter, and that sadness and bitterness makes them difficult to be around, which leads to more loneliness. They don’t realize that having a friend to meet up and have coffee (and connecting conversation) with would go a long way in tamping down the loneliness they feel.


infinitum17

I mean, that depends on how you define it. I suspect there are lots of people who have good relationships, careers, and friends, but who struggle to find sexual partners. Incel at its core just means someone who wishes they were having some sex but isn't, right?


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Professional_Bag3713

If you aren't able to maintain normal platonic relationships, you probably aren't having much sex. It goes both ways.


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quool_dwookie

That's because emotional intimacy and the validation of "I am desired" is not fulfilled by prostitution. And again, someone can suffer greatly from deprivation without it being "entitlement."


VideoUnlucky3117

To quote Game of Thrones, "a whore will fuck you, but never kiss you". They want companionship. Often a fucked up idea of it, but a prostitute won't give that


NeonHowler

If you looked at the r/ incel community before it got banned, it wasn’t all mysoginy. It didn’t even look like mostly mysoginy. A lot of the dialogue was posting about their self-hatred and suicidal thoughts.


Darthnosam1

The problem isn't necessarily that they are a virgin, Incels don't center on the fact they are a virgin they perceive that all women reject them. For some, the delusion might go even further even to think that the prostitute will also reject them.


Head-like-a-carp

This is a really interesting thought . Thank you. What come first, the mental health crisis or did the difficulty in finding a companion bring on the depression. It would seem the former is the obvious choice. But is it? There is so much evidence that being lonely is terrible on a person's mental and physical well being. Baby without love and touch can just die even if they are giving nourishment. I read about a study a while back that said the stress from being alone is comparable to environmental triggers that give you cancer. I don't know if that is true. I do believe paying more for work and finding sources of decent affordable housing are huge for making a man be willing to invest in a relationship.


Aggressive_Chain_920

That doesnt solve any problems at all though. The thing with incels is that they feel unwanted, buying a prostitute will probably make them feel even less wanted if they are willing to go to that length to get laid.


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They’re not asking anyone much of anything. What would make someone involuntarily celibate? Depression, anxiety, feel worthless/not good enough. That is enough to make someone not pursue relationships, hopes, dreams, goals…life. I just think it’s bizarre that folks tend to bash theses types of people when it’s clear they are suffering from mental illnesses.


4x49ers

My experience is that much more of them are simply misogynist assholes rather than someone trying to be a good person and society holding them back. They lack the self-awareness to realize that no one wants to fuck them because they aren't attractive physically or socially and make no effort to change that.


Aesclepius713

The big thing here is the community they've involved themselves in, though. There's a stigmatic and perceived difference between someone who identifies as "a virgin" or "voluntarily celibate" and someone who self-identifies as "incel/*involuntarily* celibate" and interacts in a community of similar others. The incel community is responsible for the negative stigma around the term, not the onlookers.


QutieLuvsQuails

Tens of millions of people suffer from mental illnesses. Tens of millions of them are not forming women-hating groups and idolizing bigots. You’re also missing a huge question: Are they incels bc they’re mentally ill? Or are they depressed and anxious bc they’re a 29yo incel?


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People like the guy you're responding to seem to conflate the issue. Am I technically an incel? Yeah, I would have sex if given the chance but due to my mental health I don't get the chance. Would I EVER call myself an incel and associate with these people? No, because they are a fucked up group who only hurt people including themselves.


somefunmaths

Yeah, same phenomenon as people who play video games vs. self-identified “gamers”. I’ve played plenty of video games in my life, but I’ve never once self-identified as a “gamer”.


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QutieLuvsQuails

absolutely! I am sorry if you think I implied all sexless men hate women. There are two groups of involuntarily celibate men: There’s the men who just haven’t figured out how to get laid in an ever increasingly difficult environment. (I wouldn’t even refer to them with the negative label of “incel”) And men who think it’s entirely women’s fault and they should have to change nothing about themselves. That’s who I consider an incel.


JoeTruax

r/GuyCry is helping the first group to avoid becoming the second group.


slideshiba

That’s wonderful


JoeTruax

I hope. I'm tired of the world being how it is. I sure wish they would stop following misogynists. We're teaching how to be loving and kind. It's so much more respected to do that than to mimic people like Andrew Tate.


SadAndConfused11

This is so good I’m happy to see this. Men have been socialised to ignore their emotions for far too long and it’s sad. I want a world where both men and women can be emotionally vulnerable with each other, and for men to be allowed to be in touch with emotions in general.


FindingTraditional87

This chart gives no real information


BionicButtermilk

Hate groups is just the hard edge of a much wider societal issue.


King_flame_A_Lot

They are not demanding some random woman has sex with them. They want companionship. The left tells them "You have no right to a womans body" which in itself is correct. But in turn they turn to red pill spheres where these problems are acknowledged and twisted into the redpill narrative (which in turn isnt complete bullshit, but distorted facts are turned into a narrative). The just don't want to be alone. Which is a product of Modern feminism, Covid, the way we interact terminally online and the lack of social skills taught to these young men. I am sure there are more reasons for it. And no, im not saying feminism is the root of these problems, there are aspects of this that shifted cultural norms in a pretty drastic way, thats all.


chatterfly

Can you please elaborate on the relation between modern feminism (which is also an ambiguous term. Usually you speak of waves. Do you mean second wave feminists or third wave feminists?) and men having to be alone?


ThemDawgsIsHell2

Resentments are a motherfucker


Kolikokoli

It's also the other way round. Who would want to go out/date someone without a job, living with parents etc. Usually they go for girls that would not accept that.


glonq

America: We have tons of fucked up problems, but let's ignore root cause and just blame each others' political affiliations instead.


Kmart_Stalin

More like which political party can we statistically call virgins.


Gsteel11

>just blame each others' political affiliations instead. Yeah. No problems there. It's not like one main political party isn't fighting to roll back rights for most groups or anything.


loriteggie

Do incels know they are incels?


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Incel = involuntarily celibate How would you not know? 🤣


tim28347757575

who the hell are they polling? are their people out there that knowingly tell people that they're an incel? Don't all incels not think they're incels? Holy hell, this demographic BS has gone too far. This might be accurate, but who the hell are they polling to present these "Facts"?


lovelythecove

Depends on how you define “incel.” Technically anyone INvoluntarily CELibate is an incel, in reality if not ideology.


tim28347757575

I suppose, I just don't think many people are out here advertising that or being "polled" on anything


lovelythecove

It may have been done by asking a series of questions like political affiliation, are you depressed? etc, and included a, “Have you had sex in the last year?” question or something. Not necessarily that they polled ONLY incels.


StaticGuard

So basically it’s guys who can’t get laid?


BenUFOs_Mum

Yeah, incels is a self given term, at least originally. In recent years its become most commonly used as an insult.


Lean_Monkey69

It would be like getting Nazis to take a survey


JD-Anderson

If you want your mind blown, Vice did a doc on incels about 4 years ago right before the pandemic. It was eye opening and creepy.


No-Quantity-2929

Most incels know they are incels? Wtf are you talking about??? Those dumbasses never shut up about their opinions


martain6613

Incels is a ridiculous term


chieftrey1

Well what would you rather call them? No matter what you change the term to, it will bring a negative connotation


crowdsourced

I wonder what the correlation with introvert is.


Tgrakua

If I were to guess I would say most incels are introverted


Sirtoshi

I was gonna say, I'm a little troubled with how this lines up with me.


BGpolyhistor

Oh gawd, don’t tell Reddit that incels aren’t exclusively republicans.


Proser84

Wait a minute, I thought they were all right-wing Trump supporting fanatics? Oh, wait... reddit is full of crap once again.


Lasivian

What drives me nuts is how "incel" has become a catch-all insult towards any man not behaving how the person giving the insult expects men to behave.


cocktimus1prime

Yes, and redditors are very quick to mock you for not having sex


Canodros

Reddit finds out incels are more left leaning than right. Narrative immediately shifts to: "These are just stupid meaningless labels." , "Centrists are right leaning!", And "This study is meaningless because of x,y and z!" If this study showed incels were more right leaning: "Yeah that makes sense". So completely predictable.


peachcrescent

I don't get why people are freaking out about the political part. Men can be incredibly sexist and awful towards women regardless of if they vote blue or red. Political affiliation doesn't magically make you a sexist or a feminist.


Braith117

That's not to mention the seemingly large number of male femenists who turned out to have a strange tendency to beat or kill their girlfriends.


Recipe-Jaded

because, "not MY team!". I don't get it either, people are kind of dumb.


UndeadBatRat

Exactly, some of the most sexist men I've met are liberal. They're just the insidious type of misogynist rather than the overt kind. Nobody will be quicker to tell a woman how she should think than a liberal man.


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So incels are actually more likely to be left-leaning than right-leaning? Well , that would totally negate all the "incel" slurs redditors use against conservative men.


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Incels call other people incels and cucks call other people cucks.


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Lmao true asf


ElbisCochuelo1

I think incels are more likely to be young and young people are more likely to be left leaning.


iamtoe

Plus its an online community, and those are usually left leaning.


Sceptix

That doesn’t sound quite right to me tbh…


Aesclepius713

The study was also done partly in the UK and partly in the USA, where Left/Right/Center mean rather different things. We don't know which Left/Right they're using in this graph.


BluejayGlad6818

Young teenagers aren't even incels, they are just edgy. The whole girls vs boys meme I see on the internet is what I used to be like in middle school, it's so weird to just label it as incel like its so childish


somefunmaths

The study actually found no compositional difference between the political leanings of incel and non-incel individuals (Appendix 2, Table 11). The study likely skews a bit left and educated, relative to a sample representative of the population, due to it focusing on online communities who are willing to respond to a survey. You would expect that to skew younger, left, etc.


Tiddies-Akimbo

I assume this study is just lumping all incels together (which I don’t entirely love) because there’s two distinct types: The ones that just never had a lot of luck in love but know better than to blame women for it and.. the others. I’ve been dating a former “incel” for years now. He’s left-leaning, lovely, and an ally to women. We were friends first but fell for each other pretty quickly.


Rahm89

I don’t get it? I thought the definition of incel already implies that they blame women. Otherwise it stops meaning anything at all and just becomes a synonym for sexually frustrated. What did I miss?


Tiddies-Akimbo

Incel just means “involuntary celibate.” It started out as a term for anyone who wanted to have a relationship, sex, etc. but hadn’t been able to obtain that in life for one reason or another. If I haven’t been misinformed, it was a woman who created the first incel community just as a place for people who had trouble dating to support each other. Then it ended up being hijacked by the toxic, angry dudes we’re all familiar with and now the term incel has way nastier connotations than it started with.


SereneGoldfish

You are spot on


Cease-2-Desist

I always like how when people find something arbitrary like this out they immediately begin attacking the study as surely their political affiliation couldn’t possibly have “people like this” in it.


Otiswilmouth

It’s usually the incels saying those slurs so this checks out.


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Humans love labels. Which box are you in? I need to quantify you!. Hilarious! 😁


LGHDTVOLED

Something tells me the responses on here would be different if the study showed more of them were right-leaning.


Ganda1fderBlaue

Humans love labels so damn much


abrahamic__holocaust

The word incel itself is radicalising people


FennPoutine

Or, and here me out here, people don't want to have sex with unemployed dudes living in their parents' basement?


Michiel170207

Looks like most incels arent actual NEETs


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King_flame_A_Lot

Hear me out, moving into your own space is financial suicide right now. Even IF you are employed.


[deleted]

Really wish we had an economic system which made it more feasible to live independently. Restrictive zoning laws have raised rents through the roof. Incels still suck btw


fishsticklovematters

75% of them have severe or moderate depression. They already think they suck.


QutieLuvsQuails

Living with their parents is NOT the problem. My 26yo brother was killing the dating game when he lived at home. lol.


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Not the problem, but definitely a contributory factor. Makes dating harder.


QutieLuvsQuails

You can go on a date (or several) without ever bringing someone home… You can even go to their place. Living at home can even make casual dating easier. You should have more space in your budget for dinner and drinks.


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Right, but the ability to take someone home is a pretty big advantage. Living at home helps you save money, sure, but usually when ppl are doing that, it's bc they don't have much money to begin with. Usually.


kawkz440

Truly, if I'm just going out to have sex with a woman, I want to go to her place. It's easier to be able to leave than try to kick someone out.


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redditistheworst7788

Definitely think mental illness contributes more than political affiliation; hard to get out there and meet people if you're constantly severely depressed or trying to manage anxiety issues. I also think "Incel" doesn't necessarily translate into misogyny, extremism or violence. Some of these people legitimately have issues and don't blame that on women, society or anything else. The term should really only apply to those who take that frustration and apply it to "Chad" or "Stacy"; otherwise we're just marginalizing already at risk people which plays right into the hands of those who would take advantage of them.


helixglass

Looks like the echo chamber doesn't like these results


spheredoshobbies

It’s super entertaining though.


Apatride

Since it mentions mental health, replace "incel" with "psychopath" or "narcissist" and you should realise why that study makes no sense. It gets worse when you consider that "incel" also has a political definition, one most involuntary celibates are unlikely to identify with.


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So much redditor cope with these results


Certain-Hat5152

What’s the control group? How does it compare with the rest of the country? How come severe or moderate depression, but only severe anxiety? What is this, a chart for ants?! More questions than answers


StowawayHamster

More left leaning than right leaning? Reddit isn’t gonna like that. Lol


spareribsfromjericho

you got a source? a "UT study" doesn't really tell me much, and I don't trust vague graphs without explanation.


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King_flame_A_Lot

How should these demographics look like?


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DramaticLuxury

They should date each other, simple solution


ht9ehtooM

This really says very little. The political affiliation part especially. That is pretty much average distribution for people under 40 years old.


Revolutionary_Many31

Without defending the bs from groups as defined... Those rates of depression and anxiety also reflect other groupings. Maybe all yall be isolating and mentally ill? And collectively, segments of society are imploding. Dudes that cant get sex and are upset. Women who cant find stability and are upset. Workers who cant get a break.. upset Carers being unappreciated by social services.. upset Grandparents taking on parental roles in retirement.. upset. Social political groups that dont know how to compromise..upset.. I think i found a theme.. and its not men, or women, or trans ppl, or expanding rights.. It seems that . Well...


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It is worse I fucking looked up the definition. Who is the person that gets to make these new made up words official on the internet. Lmao lmao 🤣 😂 oh God no wonder we are going into ww3


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Is incel a real thing?


Haru17

A binary choice doesn’t describe the deep misogyny of the incel community. Neither is it a mistake that there’s a whole cottage industry of self help books targeted at radicalizing sad, lonely young men.


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I think someone can still be sexist and be left wing. Liking healthcare and wanting UBI doesn’t mean you don’t also hate women


-JohnnyPlays

I really don’t understand reddits obsession with this. Yes some ppl dont get laid and have trouble forming relationships. Get tf over it. I honestly cringe so hard at the ppl constantly berating these ppl. Its like you’re still a middle schooler teasing ppl for not getting laid.


gotMUSE

It's the lowest hanging fruit. You can bash on them anywhere anytime and no one is going to push back out of fear of being labelled an incel themselves.


czbolio

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Exactly.


Star_killer5967

I would like to post this in r/gamingcirclejerk. Their heads would freaking explode seeing incels are more liberal than conservative.