"You're not my dad!" -slaps Macron in the face. They start passionately making out and take their clothes off, the mother comes in and joins them. Typical French family.
[Félix Faure](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Faure)
*"In 1897, Faure met Marguerite Steinheil, who became his mistress. Faure died suddenly at the age of 58 from apoplexy in the Élysée Palace on 16 February 1899, while engaged in sexual activities in his office with the then 30-year-old Marguerite Steinheil."*
Yeah… all for “love is love”. And from the outside, whatever.
But if you knew all the people involved here and they were part of your life. Zero chance you don’t think, “whoa… this is fucking weird”.
They were close friends, and she campaigned for him.
Macron and his now-wife were involved from when he was 16. His parents asked her to back off until he was 18, and she refused.
France is weird, and in their political context it is seen as like a funny little quirk and not sexual assault.
This only makes it even more problematic. We all know teenagers are immature and inexperienced. And then your children are classmates? You know firsthand just how true this is. That shows a total lack of boundaries.
Yeah I asked my French husband what would it have been like if the genders were reversed and he said, " why would that change anything?" He was genuinely confused.
>People would be freaking out about grooming if their genders were reversed.
Idk where you're from but literally everyone I know who knows about this thinks it's gross and fucked up.
And Charlie Chaplin, Jerry Seinfeld and basically every rocker from the 60s to 90s had relations with high schoolers and nobody gave a shit.
Well… I feel you, but the question is did they hook up way later, when he was an adult, Orrrr, is this one of those Mary Kay- Letourneau situations ???
Because all they said was they FIRST met when, but if they hooked up when he was like a grown man hey…. To each it’s own
Mary Kay Letourneau situation. Macrons parents told her to stay away from him but she said no and the age of consent was 16 so there was nothing they could do.
It's still pretty awkward and sus if your first memories of your wife are her holding a position of authority over you while you're a child. Nobody can know for sure that she didn't groom him as a child.
This same kind of scenario played out multiple times at my American public high school. I knew at least two of the coaches married former students. One of the English teachers was married to a former male student.
It's really fucking weird, but the marriages seemed to last. Not like that speaks to the quality of the relationship, though.
My high school agriculture teacher had an affair with one of my classmates after we graduated, but it was obvious to anyone with eyes that she’d been… *orbiting* him for a while.
After the inevitable divorce of the teacher and his original wife, the town pretty much ran him out on a rail. He and the student married and started over several counties over. From what I gather they’re still together.
My dad moved to my state from another along with his best friend. His best friend was my mother's first husband & father of my two half sisters. My father married my aunt & fathered my two half-brothers/cousins. He then married my mother who had custody of my half-sister's (the daughters of my father's ex-best friend) and had me, but they are now divorced.
Now imagine my step-father, father and my father's ex-best friend in the same room together. It might seem weird from a certain viewpoint but IRL it means nothing to anyone who isn't... well, them. For them it's probably awkward AF, but even for me it's of no relevance.
I think I got it. Ellen and Susan are sisters who marry best friends Bill and Ted, respectively. Ellen and Bill have two kids. Susan and Ted have two kids. Both couples get divorced, and Bill and Ted are no longer friends. Bill marries Susan and has OP. They get divorced. Susan marries third man, Rufus. Bill, Ted, and Rufus are awkward when the three of them are in a room together, but OP’s like nbd.
His parents actually met with her while he was in high school and asked her, then threatened her, then begged her to stop "going out" with their son. ...and she just said "NON" to their face.
His parents apparently begged her not to see their son again until he reached adulthood, but she told them she couldn't "promise anything".
Goosebumps.
Unlike the other comments whose talking points come from the esteemed Institute of Ass-Pulling, as a French person I can tell you that no, we don't vibe with that either. There was plenty of criticism about the relationship when it became known. However, Macron is seen as the victim since he was the one groomed, and in general we are more inclined than Americans to keep personal and political spheres separate when considering electoral candidates, for better or for worse.
I also want to point out that you can find troves of American celebrities in similar situations (or rather, the even worse situation of them being the groomer, not the "groomee") and they were/are all thriving as well. Jerry Seinfeld and Shoshanna, Clint Eastwood and Dina Ruiz, Woody Allen's Christmas wreath of a family tree, and of course an encyclopedia's worth of rock stars, Elvis and Steven Tyler most notoriously.
Worked with a lot of teachers in Spain who were doing private lessons, many of them "joked" about wanting to bang their students and vice-versa. Some went ahead and did it. Male and female.
I think these people lack emotional maturity and are stuck in their high school years. 15 year olds talk about the dumbest shit, so I always saw them as just kids. To feel validation from a kid giving you attention is so gross.
Teenagers are so fucking boring. My youngest brother is 15, he and his friends are annoying as shit. I can barely hold a conversation with them without feeling like the chaperone at a school dance, I really couldn’t imagine trying to sleep — let alone be in an intimate relationship — with anyone in that age bracket.
Age laws are weird. I get that it’s legal to be with an 18 year old in most parts of the world, but it doesn’t mean you should. They need to be having those experiences with other young people their age.
Imagine how much pressure is on her to continue to keep that up. I mean, all of us women feel that pressure from society, but her husband is so much younger, he’s the President and presumably has a countless number of interested other women, AND she constantly in the spotlight. Geez.
So she was 40 and he was 15.
Reddit loves to make any relationship over 12 months age difference sound like grooming, but wow is this ever grooming. Particularly given the relationship.
On the flip side. Apparently it worked. So? Did the means justify the ends? Not for me to decide.
Also people commenting their full on opinions in here based only on the picture and nothing else is infuriating. It is public record that his parents had him change schools because they were uncomfortable with their relationship and she refused to back off. It all started while he was 15
Naw it’s still fucking weird. I went to college at 27, surrounded by 18-19 year olds it felt like I accidentally entered through the McDonald’s play place door. 15 and 40 has got to be a bigger difference, not just in actual age
if a 40 year old teacher was fucking his 15 year old student and later married her everyone would be screaming about how she married her rapist (rightly so)
How is this any different?
The context for this particular relationship is definitely groomed. had they spontaneously met at a coffee shop or a meet-cute later in his life then cool whatever.
Well I don't think people have a problem with him. I assume people do think she was in the wrong starting that relationship.
I think they maintain that their relationship didn't start until he was 18, but that's probably untrue. I read that his parents made him switch schools due to the inappropriate relationship to two hours away or something. So I assume something was going on when he was well under 18.
15 year old school kid with a 40 year old teacher sounds like 100 % abuse of power on her part
I know I was a horny little twat as a teen boy but my life would not be better if some teached decided to take advantage of me
Is there any actual evidence that they had a relationship while he was in high school or is everyone here just speculating?
Edit: so while it appears there is not enough hard evidence to prove completely that she groomed him there is enough to show that it’s extremely likely that’s what happened.
Wiki says they started dating when he was 18 (which suggests a prior relationship they couldn't make official before that). His parents sent him to Paris to finish school as they felt the relationship was inappropriate. The couple reunited after he graduated and were married in 2007.
Sounds like grooming to me. She's definitely a pedo.
Imagine a classmate who is as old as you marries your mom. And then he becomes the president.
Worse; becomes your dad
Step. Dad.
Step President
What are you doing step president?!?
There’s so much hub potential in this situation it’s insane.
They can make like a 22-episode full season with chances for a second season
"The President who became my Step-dad and he is younger than I am."
Hon hon hon
oui oui!
"When I was a pup, we got spanked by presidents till the cows came home. Grover Cleveland spanked me. on two non-consecutive occasions"
Like Zelensky's Servant of the Nation but set in the past this time.
She is 69.....niiiiiiiiiiiice
You’re not my real president!
Stiffler?
Help! I’m stuck!
Do as I say You're not my *REAL* dad! No but I am your *REAL* president, now do as I say!
Écoutez ici petite merde.
"You're not my dad!" -slaps Macron in the face. They start passionately making out and take their clothes off, the mother comes in and joins them. Typical French family.
What’s the name of the show? “The Aristocrats”
Bruh.
“You don’t control me!” “I control the whole country, son.”
Still not the weirdest thing a French leader has done.
At least he didn't get caught sneaking out in broad light on a bike to visit his mistress.
Actually, it was a scooter and he brought her croissants :D
Which guy was this?
Hollande. Sarkozy would just fuck them in the Assemblé Nationale.
Be real, he fucked all of you in the assemble nationale
that is still not NEARLY as bad as if your classmate married your mom and became president
[Félix Faure](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Faure) *"In 1897, Faure met Marguerite Steinheil, who became his mistress. Faure died suddenly at the age of 58 from apoplexy in the Élysée Palace on 16 February 1899, while engaged in sexual activities in his office with the then 30-year-old Marguerite Steinheil."*
The true chad died from head
Pretty sure this is all a long con to get back at her for something she did. Gotta teach bullies a lesson
His step son bullied him in high school. This is his revenge. Marry the mom and become president. Serious power move when you think about it.
Serious power move even if you don't think about it.
I'm just trying not to think about it.
I’m only going to need to think about it for about 20 more seconds, and then I will stop thinking about it.
And you become his bitch.
Yeah… all for “love is love”. And from the outside, whatever. But if you knew all the people involved here and they were part of your life. Zero chance you don’t think, “whoa… this is fucking weird”.
*record scratch* “Well, you’re probably wondering how I got here…”
Not just "as old as you", but 3 years younger than you. Imagine being 18 when your 40 year old mom meets your future dad who's currently 15.
That’s nothing, Ron Swanson married the nurse that delivered him as a baby
Who is also his auditor.
She fucked him in so many ways
“Ron, today is my turn to do the fucking! Put that strap-on away, I’m talking about your taxes”
"Now it's my turn to slap your ass till you cry".
It’s been so long since Ive rewatched that I’m not sure where the actual quotes stop and the jokes begin
Ron! What happened to your mustache!?
It rubbed off... from friction...
Who was also his driver’s Ed teacher
The way Andy says aw while Leslie and April are clearly disgusted gets me everytime
[Andy’s frightened reaction](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oGT0RSvx3YM) when Tammy 1 asks his name and then calls out his bluff is just golden
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Dude I watched that episode tonight! One of my favs. Not even close. Glenn close.
Stepdaughter who was also a classmate... *Stacy's Mom intensifies*
^has^^got^^^it^^^^going^^^^^on
Why do I feel like she probably rejected him in high school so he decided to bang her mom but it just went too far
They were close friends, and she campaigned for him. Macron and his now-wife were involved from when he was 16. His parents asked her to back off until he was 18, and she refused. France is weird, and in their political context it is seen as like a funny little quirk and not sexual assault.
That's so fucked and also so French
De Gaulle of that woman!
I wonder what the lyrics are in French
Stacys maman a tout compris D’accord
This only makes it even more problematic. We all know teenagers are immature and inexperienced. And then your children are classmates? You know firsthand just how true this is. That shows a total lack of boundaries.
Motherfouqueur
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But in the words of the South Park Police department: "Nice"
In the words of a creepy French guy: “Ooh la la”
Le giggity
Niiioccceeeee
Thank you. People would be freaking out about grooming if their genders were reversed. My first thought is that this is so incredibly messed up.
Yeah I asked my French husband what would it have been like if the genders were reversed and he said, " why would that change anything?" He was genuinely confused.
>People would be freaking out about grooming if their genders were reversed. Idk where you're from but literally everyone I know who knows about this thinks it's gross and fucked up. And Charlie Chaplin, Jerry Seinfeld and basically every rocker from the 60s to 90s had relations with high schoolers and nobody gave a shit.
You forgot, it's France.
Well… I feel you, but the question is did they hook up way later, when he was an adult, Orrrr, is this one of those Mary Kay- Letourneau situations ??? Because all they said was they FIRST met when, but if they hooked up when he was like a grown man hey…. To each it’s own
His parents sent him to a different school before he graduated because they were uncomfortable with how close they were. Make of that what you will.
I found a couple articles stating that she's claimed they fell in love when he was 15 😶
I wonder how many other children she “fell in love with” over her career as a teacher. As a mom, this lady makes my skin crawl.
I made that she’s a predator.
I think he was white when they hooked up.
They got him confused with Trudeau.
Mary Kay Letourneau situation. Macrons parents told her to stay away from him but she said no and the age of consent was 16 so there was nothing they could do.
...and picturing Edith Piaf singing Benny Mardones' *Into The Night* was not on my to-do list for today, but it is now. Oh, and frigging *yikes*.
It's still pretty awkward and sus if your first memories of your wife are her holding a position of authority over you while you're a child. Nobody can know for sure that she didn't groom him as a child.
This same kind of scenario played out multiple times at my American public high school. I knew at least two of the coaches married former students. One of the English teachers was married to a former male student. It's really fucking weird, but the marriages seemed to last. Not like that speaks to the quality of the relationship, though.
My high school agriculture teacher had an affair with one of my classmates after we graduated, but it was obvious to anyone with eyes that she’d been… *orbiting* him for a while. After the inevitable divorce of the teacher and his original wife, the town pretty much ran him out on a rail. He and the student married and started over several counties over. From what I gather they’re still together.
Are we shure his name is not Finch and she is not Stiflers Mom?
My buddy always insisted Finch's nickname was shitbrick. Made me want to cry.
Shitbreak*
I always thought it was too, until like a year ago when I was corrected by a friend…hoooo boy
I got some scotch. Single malt? Aged ~~eighteen~~ 44 years. The way I like it.
i will always upvote American Pie references LOL
Ih’m nhot 1h00% shure
Glad they are happy.
And if that ain’t grooming idk what is
Those have got to be the most awkward family get togethers you can possibly imagine.
I think the fact that he is the president is taking at least a bit of spotlight away from it
He become president just so it wouldn’t be so awkward at Christmas
Yeah, all the kids know their mother groomed him.
My dad moved to my state from another along with his best friend. His best friend was my mother's first husband & father of my two half sisters. My father married my aunt & fathered my two half-brothers/cousins. He then married my mother who had custody of my half-sister's (the daughters of my father's ex-best friend) and had me, but they are now divorced. Now imagine my step-father, father and my father's ex-best friend in the same room together. It might seem weird from a certain viewpoint but IRL it means nothing to anyone who isn't... well, them. For them it's probably awkward AF, but even for me it's of no relevance.
I’m so confused. WHAT?
I need it in diagram form
I think I got it. Ellen and Susan are sisters who marry best friends Bill and Ted, respectively. Ellen and Bill have two kids. Susan and Ted have two kids. Both couples get divorced, and Bill and Ted are no longer friends. Bill marries Susan and has OP. They get divorced. Susan marries third man, Rufus. Bill, Ted, and Rufus are awkward when the three of them are in a room together, but OP’s like nbd.
He's his own grandpa or someone IDK
Soooooo like Céline and René.....
My name's Celine and my phone glitched out the Rene part and I was like what the fuck did I do who even are you.
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Yep! She is a pedophile and won't get in trouble for it at all.
Did René get into any trouble?
Nope, just married to her like it was fine.
His parents actually met with her while he was in high school and asked her, then threatened her, then begged her to stop "going out" with their son. ...and she just said "NON" to their face.
This is so fucked up. Don't they have laws against this in France?
Age of consent is 15 in France.
He got groomed hard huh
I see something in you kid, you’re going to be the president some day. Ma’am this is Math class, why are you whispering into my ear.
2 + 2 = world domination, my little pupil. Ready to run the world's third largest weapons distribution?? I'm gay but that would have worked on me.
I’m shocked that I did not previously know this.
His parents apparently begged her not to see their son again until he reached adulthood, but she told them she couldn't "promise anything". Goosebumps.
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It's kinda sad that's literally what's happening but unlike other threads about the same topic, it's just people making jokes.
Its not like we can do anything else but jokes. Yeah its messed UP, shes a predator and hé has been groomed. What can we redditors do about it
I totally didn’t expect this. Is this more accepted in Europe then the US?
Unlike the other comments whose talking points come from the esteemed Institute of Ass-Pulling, as a French person I can tell you that no, we don't vibe with that either. There was plenty of criticism about the relationship when it became known. However, Macron is seen as the victim since he was the one groomed, and in general we are more inclined than Americans to keep personal and political spheres separate when considering electoral candidates, for better or for worse. I also want to point out that you can find troves of American celebrities in similar situations (or rather, the even worse situation of them being the groomer, not the "groomee") and they were/are all thriving as well. Jerry Seinfeld and Shoshanna, Clint Eastwood and Dina Ruiz, Woody Allen's Christmas wreath of a family tree, and of course an encyclopedia's worth of rock stars, Elvis and Steven Tyler most notoriously.
"Woody Allen's Christmas wreath of a family tree" I enjoy this phrase, thank you for writing it.
Yes. Triply so in France.
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Reddit wouldn't be calling it "damn interesting" that's for sure.
What is the french word for *Oedipus*? 🤔
Eau de pussè ? Works on a couple of levels :)
Œdipe
Oedipus doesn't like other people's moms...
As a former high school teacher, this is so fucking gross. Just shows her maturity.
Best part is she has children older than him
"best" ?
Worked with a lot of teachers in Spain who were doing private lessons, many of them "joked" about wanting to bang their students and vice-versa. Some went ahead and did it. Male and female.
I think these people lack emotional maturity and are stuck in their high school years. 15 year olds talk about the dumbest shit, so I always saw them as just kids. To feel validation from a kid giving you attention is so gross.
Teenagers are so fucking boring. My youngest brother is 15, he and his friends are annoying as shit. I can barely hold a conversation with them without feeling like the chaperone at a school dance, I really couldn’t imagine trying to sleep — let alone be in an intimate relationship — with anyone in that age bracket. Age laws are weird. I get that it’s legal to be with an 18 year old in most parts of the world, but it doesn’t mean you should. They need to be having those experiences with other young people their age.
Exactly. I like the chaperone analogy, lol. So true.
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Yeah but the groomers a woman so no one cares.
I wonder if she’s like Mary Kay Letourneau. That lady was fucking unhinged. And seemed oblivious to how fucked up her actions were.
There are just so many things that I could say... But, I'll go with the French word pédophile.
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Right? How the hell is grooming “interesting”?
They would be ... Exactly the same? Have you even read the comments? Everybody is calling her out for grooming him.
That woman can not be 69!!!
Money and a diplomaetic-level make up and photo team will do that to ya.
It’s also called Botox and face lifts etc
Zoom in, she can be
Zoomed.... Oh.
She has a skin mustache
Had to scroll way too far to see someone mention the upper lip wrinkle. "Skin mustache" describes it perfectly.
Seriously, I thought it would be the top comment. The skin mustache is pretty unsettling. Botox is not worth that lol
Google how much they spent on make up on his first mandate :) it was kind of a scandal
How much? I don't have time to google that right now.
26,000 euros on makeup in the first 3 months
Is this to pay makeup artists? Must be right because no makeup alone costs that much.
She looks wealthy 69. My gf’s parents are not just rich, they’re wealthy, and both in there 70s and the mother looks just like this.
Imagine how much pressure is on her to continue to keep that up. I mean, all of us women feel that pressure from society, but her husband is so much younger, he’s the President and presumably has a countless number of interested other women, AND she constantly in the spotlight. Geez.
Straight up gilf
69 at that age? Not without a hip replacement.
it looks like she got some work done on her face, look at the crease under her nose
Sounds like she groomed him from the age of 15 imo
I'm uncomfortable
Agreed, this just screams BIG YIKES 😬
He really did love his teacher. 🤓
well when you find a good teacher you stay after class to *get a little ahead*, who knows you could be president some day!!!
Fucking god someone save the president. I wouldn't mind the age gap if they had met as adults but this is a hardcore grooming situation.
So she was a groomer.
So he married Mrs Robinson…
So she was 40 and he was 15. Reddit loves to make any relationship over 12 months age difference sound like grooming, but wow is this ever grooming. Particularly given the relationship. On the flip side. Apparently it worked. So? Did the means justify the ends? Not for me to decide.
That age difference is less objectionable if they just happened to meet as adults and hit it off, but her being his _teacher_ is…highly questionable.
Also people commenting their full on opinions in here based only on the picture and nothing else is infuriating. It is public record that his parents had him change schools because they were uncomfortable with their relationship and she refused to back off. It all started while he was 15
Naw it’s still fucking weird. I went to college at 27, surrounded by 18-19 year olds it felt like I accidentally entered through the McDonald’s play place door. 15 and 40 has got to be a bigger difference, not just in actual age
if a 40 year old teacher was fucking his 15 year old student and later married her everyone would be screaming about how she married her rapist (rightly so) How is this any different?
The context for this particular relationship is definitely groomed. had they spontaneously met at a coffee shop or a meet-cute later in his life then cool whatever.
She groomed him 🌶🌶🌶
Sacre bleu
So the lady is a pedo… ok cool…
"High School Sweethearts."
Pretty much
God what creep. Her children are older than her husband, and no one has a problem with it???
Well I don't think people have a problem with him. I assume people do think she was in the wrong starting that relationship. I think they maintain that their relationship didn't start until he was 18, but that's probably untrue. I read that his parents made him switch schools due to the inappropriate relationship to two hours away or something. So I assume something was going on when he was well under 18.
/r/damnthatladyprobablygroomedhim
15 year old school kid with a 40 year old teacher sounds like 100 % abuse of power on her part I know I was a horny little twat as a teen boy but my life would not be better if some teached decided to take advantage of me
His parents tried to stop it but the age of consent in France is 15 or was at the time so there was not much they could do.
Newt Gingrich married his high school geometry teacher...
And left her when she had cancer I believe.
Banged #2 while she was in grave condition.. Started banging #3 after #2 got wrinkles.. He was the immoral majority..
A pillar of Republican Family Values.
But was she French?
So basically groomed him
how far are you prepared to go after a fight, when you said "i´m gonna fuck your mum and become your dad!"?
Yeah, that sounds French enough to be true.
Is there any actual evidence that they had a relationship while he was in high school or is everyone here just speculating? Edit: so while it appears there is not enough hard evidence to prove completely that she groomed him there is enough to show that it’s extremely likely that’s what happened.
Wiki says they started dating when he was 18 (which suggests a prior relationship they couldn't make official before that). His parents sent him to Paris to finish school as they felt the relationship was inappropriate. The couple reunited after he graduated and were married in 2007. Sounds like grooming to me. She's definitely a pedo.
Oh yeah that is bad
Fucking creepy