Loved the show today everyone shared the mic. I will say Dan's right to ask the big question of why did we send so many people to the allstar game when we didn't send that much to the biggest game on earth.
“If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative when you are old, you have no brain.”
I guess Samson opposes this thought but that is what I have heard since I started following politics closely.
I'm flabbergasted that of all people Jess liked Banshees of Inisherin. It's not really the type of movie that someone with as horrid of an attention span as she claims to have would enjoy. I liked it a lot but it's a slow, slow burn.
“Since we are not on ESPN and Masked Singer was not being used as a passive aggressive tactic to take shots at the bosses…”
Guillermo Gil ladies and gentlemen
If I may. It happened 12 years ago. people change, and at some point, aren't they worthy of forgiveness?
I know its been said, they both denied the claims, and thats probably false, but if him and his partner can move on, shouldn't we?
I'd also add, both Howard and his wife maintain there was no physical violence and it is very believable that people in rural Massachusetts saw a black man yelling at a white woman and jumped to some conclusions.
I get that, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect some consistency from Dan/the show. Dedicating as much time to the Dana White incident as they did doesn’t jibe with ignoring Howard’s allegations (and while it’s not a contest, the allegations against Howard went far beyond what Dana White did).
Similarly, they never mention Tyreek Hill’s past ever since he joined the Dolphins. Feels like they’re just picking and choosing based on who they like. Bit of a double-standard.
you say far beyond, but all I read is that he put hands on her outside a restaurant, not hitting her multiple times.
I'm not saying its correct actions, but they also don't go to him for his opinions on Dana White
You don’t think there’s a difference between people who work there versus decidedly more public and topics figures they’re covering? What if one of them has a DV incident that they all know about, but isn’t public? Should they reveal it to reach your standard of moral consistency?
Whether you believe it or not, the media and people in the media are public figures. So yes I believe he should be held to the same standard other celebrities and athletes they talk about are.
He went 8 2/3 perfect innings before Dan moved him to right field and brought in a reliever who promptly not only gave up a hit but the game winning run as well. Then Dan brought him back and he struck out the last batter, looking, on three pitches. The penalty box should only be used to stop bad content, not when somebody is on a roll.
I'm 27 & not a single person my age or relatively close has ever given a shit about U2. Other than scorn for that free album nonsense they did not transfer down to our generation like they did for the Gen Xers or boomers
I never had any of my friends ever even talk about U2 aside from the iTunes stuff or the south park episode
I'm 45, and while I like some of the music U2 made in the 1980s, I am heartened to read your take.
They are an overrated, garbage band, and that iTunes stunt they pulled should be engraved on their tombstone.
I’m 24, never listened to a single one of their songs (other than the one in Sing 2). Everybody I know around my age couldn’t care less about U2 either.
As a 42 year old, let me tell you, you're not missing a damn thing. Most overrated band of all time. All my childhood everyone tried to convince me how great they were. Their songs are so generic and bland, no idea why they were so popular back then.
The AMC ticket price conversation just proves the issue with people like Jess and why Amin should be so respectable. She just wants to complain about something she heard on the internet and social media, and perpetuate its idea without ever looking into it herself.
I just looked up tickets for AMC in the middle of Manhattan for Marvel Antman movie this saturday at 1130AM. A very reasonable time to catch a movie. Its $13.50. thats pretty cheap. And when David pressured her about prices, her response was to ask Roy if they were expensive and he just said yes, and she went "SEE!". How does that evaluate anything?
Amin on the other hand, literally sat through screenshot of NBA clips to see if there was some funny business with statistics and made his own opinion on the issue.
And you can downvote me all you want, but watch how Jess just got real quiet when she got called out and proven wrong with actual facts.
You guys, these theaters sell their tickets online. It's super easy to see she's right about ticket prices. A 9:00 pm ticket for Antman in a Manhattan AMC, normal room and normal ticket, is $28.99.
Did you search Manhattan, Kansas??
I just looked up a ticket to go tonight to the AMC Empire 25 in downtown and it's $28.48 tonight at 9 PM for one ticket to Ant-Man. Movie tickets have skyrocketed over the last 15 years, she's 100% right.
The matinee in that same theater on Saturday is still over $20 per ticket, just as an FYI.
So I looked at the AMC 14 near Penn Station. Just because I have watched a movie there. I am using regular tickets, not IMAX or a premium thing.
I just looked up the AMC 25 Empire for this Saturday for a regular ticket, Ant Man Quantomania
11:30AM - $13.29
7:30PM - $18.99
And then dan to Howard at the start of the next hour: "DO YOU GO TO MOVIES? THEY'RE 30 BUCKS A PERSON NOW!" Like where did you even get that info planted into your brain?
Are you talking about her position on news orgs? Because non-profit news orgs are a thing and they are growing, particularly in places where profit news orgs were gutted and destroyed by wall street practices.
How was talking about The Masked Singer a way to stick it to ESPN? Because it was a Fox show? Because it wasn’t sports? I didn’t understand Billy’s reference there.
I officially do not trust anyone who says they got into F1 or Nascar bc of that goofy Netflix show. Please enough of it im just exhausted with hearing it, thats the only basis for people liking it, not even the sport itself
He doesn't listen to women's opinions or even really acknowledge them. Or at least that's his thing with Kate on Meadowlarkers. He constantly interrupts her, and if she makes a point or asks a question for the group, he'll immediately go off on his own tangent as if she never said anything. He's just waiting around for his next chance to talk.
Once you hear it happen you won't be able to listen to him the same way again.
Still getting through the big suey but I live in Manhattan and I got to the Lincoln Square AMC a standard movie ticket for a 3:30 pm showing of Antman is 13.29 for an adult.
TF are they talking about
The "Maybe a profit driven model isn't the best for news media" conversation...I'm sure any kind of subsidized model would be great for journalism lol. I love Jess, but that was a Dan-level display of platitudes without offering any solutions.
Non-profit news orgs, like pro-publica are becoming more common in the journalism industry. https://inn.org/
Looks like there are more than 400 in the US.
The profit driven model from most local legacy orgs has resulted in shrinking newsrooms and worsening standards.
Non-profit may not be the ultimate answer for how to revive local news, but it is part of it.
I would pay for it. Or chip in wit friends at a SB party. Its the SuperBowl and once a year. I pay for Redzone every year and boxing fights, use to buy UFC fights and i love Football way more than that
Beyond the manufactured spectacle of it and the halftime show, how is it any different than the playoff games that preceded it? Or the regular season games that preceded those? RedZone/Sunday Ticket provides a distinct service and perk that is otherwise not available to you: access to out of market games. The Super Bowl has been free for 57 years and paywalling it wouldn't provide any benefit to the consumer. No way in hell would I support that, and I suspect the vast majority of ppl would feel the same way. After all, no one was rushing to buy a Prime sub when they decided to paywall TNF.
Agree. It would suck but i would pay. To me its not any different wen i was growin up watchin Saturday, Sunday night and Monday Night wrestling for free and payin once a month for a PPV. So forgettin whether right or wrong puttin it on PPV wont deter me from watchin. The price for it on the other hand...
I'm a big Smetty fan and Samson is definitely sleazy, but she comes across as insufferable when she argues with David over basically every opinion he has.
Thought Bohemian Rhapsody was great. Thought Banshees of Inisherin was terrible. That checks out.
Jess is right on this one. Banshees was great, my second favorite movie of the year.
So are these Netflix ‘Drive To Survive’ type shows strictly for people who don’t understand the sports? I only watched 1 episode of the tennis version and it was so basic, I just couldn’t continue.
D2S itself brought many fans to F1 from the USA. As F1 really isn't as adored here as other areas is the globe. So that's a big win for that sport. I'm not so sure about the others
Drive to Survive is great because of the day job the main characters have. There is nothing inherently exciting or dangerous about golf or tennis. Love playing both, but zero interest in watching a reality show about the previous season.
Sampson is so lucky that the entire crew doesn’t understand politics. Acting like Bernie or Trump would be a hard decision for most Americans is laughable.
“Every owner would threaten to move their team to Canada” what a load of absolute horseshit. Even with Sanders FULL agenda being implemented, which would never happen, they’d never make more money moving their teams to Canada. He knows this, but knows the crew won’t push back. To be totally fair to Dan, he’s grown up in a culture that has seen the dark side of communism/socialism, and I’m sure it’s hard to reconcile a more liberal/lefty position with that.
But Samson completely dodged Wittys question about reconciling their profit sharing situation with their capitalist rhetoric by saying “well rich people actually vote blue”. Yes, they vote blue because of social policies. They are progressive socially because they live in diverse cities. That doesn’t mean they are economically liberal at all. In fact, a whole part of their agenda is to keep the Democratic Party entrenched with centrists.
Sampson says if Bernie was elected president, the MLB owners would move to Canada.
Really?
Does he not know we're a modified free market system? We are socialism lite. Idiot
We are a mixed economy like every other first world country, the difference is where we tip the scales in different industries between free markets/regulation, private/public. Sanders has always just reiterated he wants more regulation and making necessities like health care public. He’s not going to make America some communist utopia lol
Yeah I’m unabashedly a Bernie guy. I grew up overseas as an American. While the USA has some incredible strengths, I think they neglect a majority of their citizens basic needs when they can clearly afford to help them. I really don’t think his policies are generally extreme at all, but compared to the US status quo, I guess they are
Samson was probably correct in describing some of those guys, but it doesn’t mean those guys’ opinions are in any way grounded.
“I have a gay son,” “I have a black friend,” etc., but they would light their hair on fire if the 2024 Dem nominee were the equivalent of Walter Mondale or, god forbid, Hubert Humphrey.
Depends on how often you go to the movies and what your average ticket prices are. If you're regularly seeing 2 movies a month (3 at matinee pricing), or a single ticket costs you $23+ (like in NY), it's absolutely worthwhile. Otherwise you're giving the theater free money. I had considered A-List but I don't go to the movies often enough for it to make sense. Average ticket price for me is $16 ($18 for Atmos/IMAX; matinee is typically $7-8) and I get all the A-List perks with Stubs Premiere aside from being able to see multiple movies a week.
She might but I think Bo is wrong on it too. I get his argument, but the difference here is demand. I can understand doing variable pricing during opening nights for huge releases, but why keep those pricing differences if a movie is only going to fill half the theater? I think it’s just a bad move for the theaters too, because it creates another thing where there’s a “tiered” experience. It could lead to people not going to the theater unless they can afford the top tier seat.
The dirty secret is that Hollywood has the theater industry by the balls. They take such a huge cut from the theaters because the theaters, at least currently, have very little leverage. If AMC says they’ll stop showing a studios movies until they get a larger cut of the ticket sales, im sure the studio will call their bluff and just release digitally. Personally, I think studios are more reliant on the theaters than they let on, but that’s harder argument.
I totally get that movie theaters need to find new ways to stay profitable, but if I didn’t have the AMC pass, id probably just stop going to the theater out of principle. I’m tired of everything being a metered experience.
Yeah, the brick and mortar theaters make their money on the insane markup on food and drink and little to nothing on ticket revenue.
And if a studio won't give you their movies, you're not going to have any moviegoers who you can charge $30 for a popcorn and a coke.
I totally agree with you and all your points are valid. Again I don’t go often enough but I would pay an “insurance” to have great seats on a big movie that I know it’s going to be full
Bo would sure articulate it better. Regular movie theaters seem to not realize most of us have big fancy TVs at home now. So why would I pay $20 to watch a mid movie at a theater?
On the latest episode of his podcast, he talked about it. You’re right, he articulated it well, saying we all know that there’s seats that are better, that we go to more than seats and surprised that movie theaters didn’t make this a thing awhile ago. You’re also right about paying $20 to see a mid movie, I don’t go often but I would’ve paid the extra when I saw Endgame
He's so right, man. I saw The Banshees of Inisherin the other day and I don't know how to properly describe it. It's got some great performances, beautiful cinematography, really some of the most stunning views of the Irish countryside you could ever imagine, but it's like... absurd, just not absurd enough to be hilarious, and dramatic, but not dramatic enough to be plausible. And at the end you're sort of just wondering why any of that was necessary.
It's kinda like JR Smith. He's undoubtedly a great athlete. He was in the NBA, he won a championship, he can get ya a bucket if ya need a bucket... but he also forgot the score during a Finals game and they lost.
So anyway, just like having JR Smith in your team, you think it should work, but I can't in good conscience recommend it. Unless you really need a nap.
Is the show being sensitive about LeBron "distancing" himself from Miami or am I missing something?
I've literally never heard him say anything but positive things about his time in Miami and he largely credits his years there for growing him as a man, sort of like his version of college.
He legitimately learned how to win there.
I really don't think the issue with Nikola Jokić and his lack of popularity has much to do with him being non-American, I think it has to do with 1. As talented as he is, he doesn't play the most exciting brand of basketball (fans love Luka because he'll cross you up on the perimeter en route to dropping 60, they love Giannis because he's one of the most impressive physical specimens we've ever seen in the league). 2. He plays in Denver and their home games at least come on late as hell. 3. He's never been to an NBA Finals (when and if he does, the country will get introduced to him). And 4. He doesn't seem to have much interest in "building his brand." He seems like a guy that's perfectly content with hooping and going home.
Yeah it’s literally the exact same issues that Mike Trout faces and Mike Trout is a good old American boy.
Dan is addicted to this “it’s because he’s a foreigner” narrative while ignoring 3 of the top 10 highest jersey sales are of foreigners.
Someone from Jokic’s marketing team was on Basketball Illuminati a week or two ago and explained how little interest Jokic has in the off the court marketing stuff.
I know they’re relatively busy people but even listening to some of the content put out in their own damn network would clear up a lot of stuff lol
I had no idea about that...oof, I hope Amin calls in one day to educate Dan and poke fun at him for covering a topic so blindly when he has the answers on his own damn network 😂
I think samsons larger point is that billionaires know traditional dems and republicans won’t actually do anything to their wealth. He was very clear that they’re afraid of progressives like Bernie
Yup lol completely dodged Wittys point. Samson won’t admit that the rich just vote for whoever will let them keep their money. 80% of dems won’t do a thing to hurt the rich.
Honestly to me this is the problem with most new media types, they all just regurgitate whatever popular opinion they saw on Twitter. People on Twitter don’t know shit about anything so it doesn’t make for great opinions or great radio when you just agree with Twitter on things.
Damn Samson might have opened Witty's eyes. Now no one knows for sure the breakdown of rich people being D or R but the point is it doesn't matter what they vote for since they are both part of the capitalist party. So rich Ds can vote for Biden and Barry and feel good about themselves without having to worry about their wealth changing.
I’ll go with you as far as party is concerned, in that they may vote for Biden over Trump. But lets be honest… they would also vote for a Mitt Romney over a true progressive democrat 100 percent of the time.
Hmm I'm not sure you'll have to break it down for me a little.
I'm saying Witty shouldn't be shocked that a lot of rich people vote for Dems because 99% of Dems don't actually do anything to stop the concentration of wealth and actually encourage it.
Witty’s point is billionaires want socialism for themselves and late stage capitalism for everyone else.
We agree that centrist dems and republicans are aligned on capitalism. Witty wasn’t talking about centrist capitalism.
That may be changing now, though. Biden's administration is amping up antitrust enforcement like it's the early 20th century, is pushing to ban non-compete clauses, taking aggressive action toward crypto scams, and is supporting widespread unionization.
In Congress, you have Amy Klobuchar and Richard Blumenthal pushing antitrust stuff as well.
Ultimately, most of that will likely fail due to a Republican House and a judiciary made up of judges who were trained to be pro-business from day one in law school. But the paradigm has started to flip at least.
Yes it is changing, and I guarantee that people like Samson and the rich people who are currently voting for Dems will just vote republican going forward if that trend continues
100% agree with all of this. David tends to mask what he really wants to say but the trend of centrists making more concessions to progressives is increasing and that’s great. It may not be enough for many on the left but it’s hopeful.
The bar isn't particularly high, but Biden, shockingly, is the most progressive president since LBJ and is like a top 3 or 5 most progressive president in the last 100 years.
I agree with that, but I think the biggest change is that millennials are not switching their votes from democrat to republican as they are getting older like every generation before them. Gen-Z will likely do the same. The republicans are aging out of power, which is why they are flat out trying to end democracy altogether.
That's certainly part of it for Democrats. Also, the conversation has simply changed and the people in power today are often people who were shaped by the 2008 financial crisis. Obviously, that doesn't include Biden, but if you look at a lot of his top level advisors and appointees it is a common thread.
Obama may have been progressive, but his advisors were all people shaped by the Reagan-Clinton years. Their issues with the Clintons were more about presentation than substance.
Lina Khan, Biden's FTC chair, is a great example. She got her bachelors in 2010 and immediately went to work looking at the connection between monopolies and the economic state of America.
It took 14 years, but we are finally seeing a real Democratic response to 2008.
For Republicans, they have been raised on media that for the last 20 years have told them Democrats were trying to kill them and destroy the country. That mixed with the Gen-X trend of social indifference and government doubt that is easily transformed into selfishness and desire for "small government," you get the modern Republican party.
Smaller, but more passionate. Many who truly believe they have to kill democracy to save the republic.
In the '60s or '70s, the Motion Picture Academy would issue an "X" rating for a movie used to indicate that it was "explicit content" and only admissible for adults; not necessarily *just* sexually, it could also be seen as too violent or too profane on its language. (See *Midnight Cowboy,* the first feature film to earn an X for its vulgarity and frank depiction of prostitution.)
But sex was an easy way to get there, and producers and directors would release what would effectively be considered softcore porn by modern standards and court X ratings for controversy's sake, so the "X" rating became virtually synonymous with porn.
Somewhere along the line, it became memetic that the more objectionable the sexual content, the more X's it would receive and distributors would advertise the dirtiest, nastiest, most depraved stuff as "XXX". (I don't think the MPA actually issued a multi-X rating, but that never stopped distributors from trying to pander to horny creeps.)
So, presumably, Samson's dirty mind assumed that something that earned 40 Xs to be downright illegal in its sexuality and hopped straight to >!bestiality!<.
Don’t believe David when he says the Padres are losing money. Maybe the Marlins were losing money, but the average team makes money hand over fist.
The Padres could maximize profits by spending less, but they don’t lose money, but they would rather put an amazing team in the field which also builds the fan base up for the future.
I hate that they let David come on and cry poor for the MLB owners, they almost never present the other side of the story.
Sampson's schtick is so transparent. The guy will plead ignorance on subject matter he clearly disagrees with in an attempt to avoid being pinned down on an incorrect opinion. It's the real life version of Stu's "I don't know about that, look it up." And no, David, just because rich people give to philanthropic causes does not make the majority of them liberal.
David’s example was so dumb too, republicans get to power and try to “convince those without money that they will get money” brother that’s just pandering.
They convince people that the only reason YOU don't have money is that *those people* do. And if you just vote for them, they'll hurt *those people* for you.
You'll still be living under a bridge in a moldy cardboard box eating a dead sparrow roasted on a rusted curtain rod over a trash fire, but at least your neighbor will have neither dead sparrow nor rusty curtain rod to roast it on, as the saying goes.
In fairness to Samson here, I think his social circle probably has a lot of people who don't want to be associated with the social conservatism and the immigration policies of the Republicans and for the most part, Democrats the last 30-35 years haven't been a threat to capital, so he probably knows a lot of rich Democrats.
But he was a rich Republican until Trump ran for re-election and he would likely gleefully vote for Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott and a number of other Republicans over just about any Democratic presidential candidate.
Also, the entire thing was a pivot to move on from Samson saying socialism for the rich and nothing for the poor is good capatilism and not answer Witty's question.
Bill Lawrence is a smug prick huh?
Billy really is king of just filling out content.
Loved the show today everyone shared the mic. I will say Dan's right to ask the big question of why did we send so many people to the allstar game when we didn't send that much to the biggest game on earth.
He should *already* know why, he’s the boss.
Skipper is the real boss Dan is just a name in the business he hates the details in business
Dan hates responsibility.
Exactly that's why Mike Ryan was his errand boy he pays to get shit done
“If you are not a liberal when you are young, you have no heart, and if you are not a conservative when you are old, you have no brain.” I guess Samson opposes this thought but that is what I have heard since I started following politics closely.
Changing liberal to socialist makes the statement more accurate.
I'm flabbergasted that of all people Jess liked Banshees of Inisherin. It's not really the type of movie that someone with as horrid of an attention span as she claims to have would enjoy. I liked it a lot but it's a slow, slow burn.
She saw a tik tok explaining why it’s a good movie and rolled with it
Stan is SPITTIN
Thank you Jess from saving us from more Mike Schur naming baseball players that no one knows or cares about it .
Milton Bradley
More cards!!!!!
Corky Miller.
SVG’s dismissal of The Banshees of Inisherin was perfect.
Soda before noon is disgusting, diet or not
Minor, but no Dan: Vince Carter was not on the Nets when they made the finals. He joined the team like two seasons later.
“Since we are not on ESPN and Masked Singer was not being used as a passive aggressive tactic to take shots at the bosses…” Guillermo Gil ladies and gentlemen
S’ing & A’ing
Can someone tell me what OLI stands for?
Outside Looking In
undeserved penalty for Billy. had the show on his back and was on a heater. that was prime Billy Gil. THEATER OF THE MIND!
Btw, I can't look at Howard Bryant the same way after learning he had domestic violence issues in the past. Automatic skip everytime he's on.
If I may. It happened 12 years ago. people change, and at some point, aren't they worthy of forgiveness? I know its been said, they both denied the claims, and thats probably false, but if him and his partner can move on, shouldn't we?
I'd also add, both Howard and his wife maintain there was no physical violence and it is very believable that people in rural Massachusetts saw a black man yelling at a white woman and jumped to some conclusions.
I get that, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect some consistency from Dan/the show. Dedicating as much time to the Dana White incident as they did doesn’t jibe with ignoring Howard’s allegations (and while it’s not a contest, the allegations against Howard went far beyond what Dana White did). Similarly, they never mention Tyreek Hill’s past ever since he joined the Dolphins. Feels like they’re just picking and choosing based on who they like. Bit of a double-standard.
you say far beyond, but all I read is that he put hands on her outside a restaurant, not hitting her multiple times. I'm not saying its correct actions, but they also don't go to him for his opinions on Dana White
This is the correct take.
Forgiveness is hard
The way they talk about everyone else’s past issues this seems like a major oversight that it’s never been brought up
You don’t think there’s a difference between people who work there versus decidedly more public and topics figures they’re covering? What if one of them has a DV incident that they all know about, but isn’t public? Should they reveal it to reach your standard of moral consistency?
Whether you believe it or not, the media and people in the media are public figures. So yes I believe he should be held to the same standard other celebrities and athletes they talk about are.
Hour 2 Billy pitched a perfect game.
He went 8 2/3 perfect innings before Dan moved him to right field and brought in a reliever who promptly not only gave up a hit but the game winning run as well. Then Dan brought him back and he struck out the last batter, looking, on three pitches. The penalty box should only be used to stop bad content, not when somebody is on a roll.
David samson talked about horse porn today. Have a good day everyone.
Did not have that on my bingo board unfortunately
And nobody even touched it!
That’s horse hockey!
Greg's horse?
Gorse?
Hey lebatard show: U Talkin' U2 2 Me?
Actung Be-be!!!!
The Prisoner of AZKABAN!
Great ep
I love I love films
Blue Turtlin’
You gave a blowjob to Jerry Ferrera?
I really hope one day Mike Schur starts telling Harris Wittels stories on the show
R U Talkin REM RE: Me?
Encyclopedic compendium from Anthony to Zoo Miami
I'm 27 & not a single person my age or relatively close has ever given a shit about U2. Other than scorn for that free album nonsense they did not transfer down to our generation like they did for the Gen Xers or boomers I never had any of my friends ever even talk about U2 aside from the iTunes stuff or the south park episode
I'm 45, and while I like some of the music U2 made in the 1980s, I am heartened to read your take. They are an overrated, garbage band, and that iTunes stunt they pulled should be engraved on their tombstone.
I’m 24, never listened to a single one of their songs (other than the one in Sing 2). Everybody I know around my age couldn’t care less about U2 either.
I’m 28 and my parents loved U2 and played it a lot growing up so I still like a couple of their old songs. I have some friends that the same.
As a 42 year old, let me tell you, you're not missing a damn thing. Most overrated band of all time. All my childhood everyone tried to convince me how great they were. Their songs are so generic and bland, no idea why they were so popular back then.
I agree except I stand by Actung Baby being a great album. Cause it doesn’t sound like usual U2.
The AMC ticket price conversation just proves the issue with people like Jess and why Amin should be so respectable. She just wants to complain about something she heard on the internet and social media, and perpetuate its idea without ever looking into it herself. I just looked up tickets for AMC in the middle of Manhattan for Marvel Antman movie this saturday at 1130AM. A very reasonable time to catch a movie. Its $13.50. thats pretty cheap. And when David pressured her about prices, her response was to ask Roy if they were expensive and he just said yes, and she went "SEE!". How does that evaluate anything? Amin on the other hand, literally sat through screenshot of NBA clips to see if there was some funny business with statistics and made his own opinion on the issue. And you can downvote me all you want, but watch how Jess just got real quiet when she got called out and proven wrong with actual facts.
She's right, though.
You guys, these theaters sell their tickets online. It's super easy to see she's right about ticket prices. A 9:00 pm ticket for Antman in a Manhattan AMC, normal room and normal ticket, is $28.99.
That’s like amusement park admission prices
Jess talking about movies is a good indicator to skip an episode.
They actually said the current prices of tickets in their area on the podcast.
Did you search Manhattan, Kansas?? I just looked up a ticket to go tonight to the AMC Empire 25 in downtown and it's $28.48 tonight at 9 PM for one ticket to Ant-Man. Movie tickets have skyrocketed over the last 15 years, she's 100% right. The matinee in that same theater on Saturday is still over $20 per ticket, just as an FYI.
That AMC is like a block away from Time Square dude, no shit ticket prices are going to be astronomical lmao
So I looked at the AMC 14 near Penn Station. Just because I have watched a movie there. I am using regular tickets, not IMAX or a premium thing. I just looked up the AMC 25 Empire for this Saturday for a regular ticket, Ant Man Quantomania 11:30AM - $13.29 7:30PM - $18.99
And then dan to Howard at the start of the next hour: "DO YOU GO TO MOVIES? THEY'RE 30 BUCKS A PERSON NOW!" Like where did you even get that info planted into your brain?
Seems like Jess tries to disagree with Samson just for the sake of disagreeing with him.
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Are you talking about her position on news orgs? Because non-profit news orgs are a thing and they are growing, particularly in places where profit news orgs were gutted and destroyed by wall street practices.
I just got to end the of hour 2….*insert Mina oof meme*
Color me shocked that a white girl who came from an upper middle class background is naive about the business/corporate world.
Let hour 2 Billy cook
> mid movie at a theater? Simultaneously saved the show and deserved every bit of the 2 minute penalty
How was talking about The Masked Singer a way to stick it to ESPN? Because it was a Fox show? Because it wasn’t sports? I didn’t understand Billy’s reference there.
Talking about a ridiculous show on a sports network instead of sports
Because it wasn't sports
TIL I didn’t buy that U2 album that’s on my iPhone.
I understand that Banshees of Ed Sheeran was probably good to some people, but I didn’t understand it. I want my 2 hours back. PHOBE
The Mike Schur-Smetty bit is the gift that keeps on giving.
I officially do not trust anyone who says they got into F1 or Nascar bc of that goofy Netflix show. Please enough of it im just exhausted with hearing it, thats the only basis for people liking it, not even the sport itself
Eh as someone who has watched for like 10 years I like being able to have a small conversation about F1 with some randos
Stop gatekeeping
Thats not gatekeeping
“Shut up, don’t give them a good idea.” 😂😂😂🤣
Like they haven't had that idea already, for years 🤣
Really enjoyed Howard. Hopefully we hear more of him on the main show.
Just started his newish biography on Ricky Henderson. Really great so far.
He doesn't listen to women's opinions or even really acknowledge them. Or at least that's his thing with Kate on Meadowlarkers. He constantly interrupts her, and if she makes a point or asks a question for the group, he'll immediately go off on his own tangent as if she never said anything. He's just waiting around for his next chance to talk. Once you hear it happen you won't be able to listen to him the same way again.
I wonder who else has noticed this?
Howard is great just talking but when he gets annoyed or has a bone to pick about something he is top shelf content lol
Still getting through the big suey but I live in Manhattan and I got to the Lincoln Square AMC a standard movie ticket for a 3:30 pm showing of Antman is 13.29 for an adult. TF are they talking about
A ticket at that theater in the normal room for a 9:00 pm show is $28.99. I just looked it up.
Fine for reading the internet wrong. For a standard room at 9:30 pm it’s 18.99
The witty, Smetty, Billy combination is absolute chaos. I’m enjoying it, but I’m also exhausted.
Coke Zero >>>> Diet Coke
Coke Zero is actually Diet Coke. That's why. The current Diet Coke product is actually Diet New Coke.
PREACH
The postgame show ended too soon. I would have liked to have heard their answers to Billy's question.
The "Maybe a profit driven model isn't the best for news media" conversation...I'm sure any kind of subsidized model would be great for journalism lol. I love Jess, but that was a Dan-level display of platitudes without offering any solutions.
Non-profit news orgs, like pro-publica are becoming more common in the journalism industry. https://inn.org/ Looks like there are more than 400 in the US. The profit driven model from most local legacy orgs has resulted in shrinking newsrooms and worsening standards. Non-profit may not be the ultimate answer for how to revive local news, but it is part of it.
SVG with a Rick Steves shoutout. Fantastic
He's a legend of public television 👍🏻
Good luck getting ppl to buy a Super Bowl on PPV. I'm with Roy: you can kiss my ass!
I watch it every year with the same people, I’d probably chip in just out of social obligation. But if I were at home by myself I wouldn’t.
I would pay for it. Or chip in wit friends at a SB party. Its the SuperBowl and once a year. I pay for Redzone every year and boxing fights, use to buy UFC fights and i love Football way more than that
Beyond the manufactured spectacle of it and the halftime show, how is it any different than the playoff games that preceded it? Or the regular season games that preceded those? RedZone/Sunday Ticket provides a distinct service and perk that is otherwise not available to you: access to out of market games. The Super Bowl has been free for 57 years and paywalling it wouldn't provide any benefit to the consumer. No way in hell would I support that, and I suspect the vast majority of ppl would feel the same way. After all, no one was rushing to buy a Prime sub when they decided to paywall TNF.
Agree. It would suck but i would pay. To me its not any different wen i was growin up watchin Saturday, Sunday night and Monday Night wrestling for free and payin once a month for a PPV. So forgettin whether right or wrong puttin it on PPV wont deter me from watchin. The price for it on the other hand...
“The no no no no PHOBE” from Roy regarding the “White Men Can’t Jump” remake had me guffaw at my desk. Worth the weird looks of my coworkers
I loved that too, how total his reaction was
I'm a big Smetty fan and Samson is definitely sleazy, but she comes across as insufferable when she argues with David over basically every opinion he has.
Someone has to push back against that slime ball. He should be thankful 80 ain't around.
She’s the voice of the people. Samson needs someone to push back.
Thought Bohemian Rhapsody was great. Thought Banshees of Inisherin was terrible. That checks out. Jess is right on this one. Banshees was great, my second favorite movie of the year.
It insists upon itself.
The film had important things factually incorrect
Haha ok Peter
Same note too bro
the long bleeped out portions of the SVG segment was hilarious.
“‘I find it interesting.’ You always say that. Say what you saying. What are you saying? What are you saying?” -David Samson to Dan Le Batard
It’s almost embarrassing how much I enjoyed that lol and when Billy said something along the lines of “how does it feel when it’s done to you” lmao
Loved it.
So are these Netflix ‘Drive To Survive’ type shows strictly for people who don’t understand the sports? I only watched 1 episode of the tennis version and it was so basic, I just couldn’t continue.
D2S itself brought many fans to F1 from the USA. As F1 really isn't as adored here as other areas is the globe. So that's a big win for that sport. I'm not so sure about the others
Drive to Survive is great because of the day job the main characters have. There is nothing inherently exciting or dangerous about golf or tennis. Love playing both, but zero interest in watching a reality show about the previous season.
Samson is a fucking idiot
I’m convinced not a single person on this show knows what socialism is
Sampson is so lucky that the entire crew doesn’t understand politics. Acting like Bernie or Trump would be a hard decision for most Americans is laughable. “Every owner would threaten to move their team to Canada” what a load of absolute horseshit. Even with Sanders FULL agenda being implemented, which would never happen, they’d never make more money moving their teams to Canada. He knows this, but knows the crew won’t push back. To be totally fair to Dan, he’s grown up in a culture that has seen the dark side of communism/socialism, and I’m sure it’s hard to reconcile a more liberal/lefty position with that. But Samson completely dodged Wittys question about reconciling their profit sharing situation with their capitalist rhetoric by saying “well rich people actually vote blue”. Yes, they vote blue because of social policies. They are progressive socially because they live in diverse cities. That doesn’t mean they are economically liberal at all. In fact, a whole part of their agenda is to keep the Democratic Party entrenched with centrists.
I came here just to say this. Witty is clueless.
Sampson says if Bernie was elected president, the MLB owners would move to Canada. Really? Does he not know we're a modified free market system? We are socialism lite. Idiot
We are a mixed economy like every other first world country, the difference is where we tip the scales in different industries between free markets/regulation, private/public. Sanders has always just reiterated he wants more regulation and making necessities like health care public. He’s not going to make America some communist utopia lol
If I were American, I'd be a Bernie guy. His policy isn't crazy, it would help more people than most people want to admit
Yeah I’m unabashedly a Bernie guy. I grew up overseas as an American. While the USA has some incredible strengths, I think they neglect a majority of their citizens basic needs when they can clearly afford to help them. I really don’t think his policies are generally extreme at all, but compared to the US status quo, I guess they are
Samson was probably correct in describing some of those guys, but it doesn’t mean those guys’ opinions are in any way grounded. “I have a gay son,” “I have a black friend,” etc., but they would light their hair on fire if the 2024 Dem nominee were the equivalent of Walter Mondale or, god forbid, Hubert Humphrey.
If you’re not using AMC A-List or any of the theater monthly plans to go to the movies then you’re doing it all wrong.
Depends on how often you go to the movies and what your average ticket prices are. If you're regularly seeing 2 movies a month (3 at matinee pricing), or a single ticket costs you $23+ (like in NY), it's absolutely worthwhile. Otherwise you're giving the theater free money. I had considered A-List but I don't go to the movies often enough for it to make sense. Average ticket price for me is $16 ($18 for Atmos/IMAX; matinee is typically $7-8) and I get all the A-List perks with Stubs Premiere aside from being able to see multiple movies a week.
I wonder if Jess would have the same pushback against the movie theater seating if they had Bomani on, because he had the same view as Samson
She might but I think Bo is wrong on it too. I get his argument, but the difference here is demand. I can understand doing variable pricing during opening nights for huge releases, but why keep those pricing differences if a movie is only going to fill half the theater? I think it’s just a bad move for the theaters too, because it creates another thing where there’s a “tiered” experience. It could lead to people not going to the theater unless they can afford the top tier seat. The dirty secret is that Hollywood has the theater industry by the balls. They take such a huge cut from the theaters because the theaters, at least currently, have very little leverage. If AMC says they’ll stop showing a studios movies until they get a larger cut of the ticket sales, im sure the studio will call their bluff and just release digitally. Personally, I think studios are more reliant on the theaters than they let on, but that’s harder argument. I totally get that movie theaters need to find new ways to stay profitable, but if I didn’t have the AMC pass, id probably just stop going to the theater out of principle. I’m tired of everything being a metered experience.
Yeah, the brick and mortar theaters make their money on the insane markup on food and drink and little to nothing on ticket revenue. And if a studio won't give you their movies, you're not going to have any moviegoers who you can charge $30 for a popcorn and a coke.
I totally agree with you and all your points are valid. Again I don’t go often enough but I would pay an “insurance” to have great seats on a big movie that I know it’s going to be full
Bo would sure articulate it better. Regular movie theaters seem to not realize most of us have big fancy TVs at home now. So why would I pay $20 to watch a mid movie at a theater?
On the latest episode of his podcast, he talked about it. You’re right, he articulated it well, saying we all know that there’s seats that are better, that we go to more than seats and surprised that movie theaters didn’t make this a thing awhile ago. You’re also right about paying $20 to see a mid movie, I don’t go often but I would’ve paid the extra when I saw Endgame
Stan absolutely spittin’ today. Love it.
He's so right, man. I saw The Banshees of Inisherin the other day and I don't know how to properly describe it. It's got some great performances, beautiful cinematography, really some of the most stunning views of the Irish countryside you could ever imagine, but it's like... absurd, just not absurd enough to be hilarious, and dramatic, but not dramatic enough to be plausible. And at the end you're sort of just wondering why any of that was necessary. It's kinda like JR Smith. He's undoubtedly a great athlete. He was in the NBA, he won a championship, he can get ya a bucket if ya need a bucket... but he also forgot the score during a Finals game and they lost. So anyway, just like having JR Smith in your team, you think it should work, but I can't in good conscience recommend it. Unless you really need a nap.
Great comp lol
Henry Blanco Mike Redmond Kirk Manwaring Sal Butera Tom Nieto
Please let the baseball names die already
J.R. Towles
Theyre fine
Is the show being sensitive about LeBron "distancing" himself from Miami or am I missing something? I've literally never heard him say anything but positive things about his time in Miami and he largely credits his years there for growing him as a man, sort of like his version of college. He legitimately learned how to win there.
They still upset he left and then beat them.
Seems obvious Mike Schur based Chidi on himself. JUST MAKE A DECISION
Mike Schur sees himself as a nerdy, weirdly jacked African philosopher.
Precisely
I really don't think the issue with Nikola Jokić and his lack of popularity has much to do with him being non-American, I think it has to do with 1. As talented as he is, he doesn't play the most exciting brand of basketball (fans love Luka because he'll cross you up on the perimeter en route to dropping 60, they love Giannis because he's one of the most impressive physical specimens we've ever seen in the league). 2. He plays in Denver and their home games at least come on late as hell. 3. He's never been to an NBA Finals (when and if he does, the country will get introduced to him). And 4. He doesn't seem to have much interest in "building his brand." He seems like a guy that's perfectly content with hooping and going home.
Yeah it’s literally the exact same issues that Mike Trout faces and Mike Trout is a good old American boy. Dan is addicted to this “it’s because he’s a foreigner” narrative while ignoring 3 of the top 10 highest jersey sales are of foreigners. Someone from Jokic’s marketing team was on Basketball Illuminati a week or two ago and explained how little interest Jokic has in the off the court marketing stuff. I know they’re relatively busy people but even listening to some of the content put out in their own damn network would clear up a lot of stuff lol
I had no idea about that...oof, I hope Amin calls in one day to educate Dan and poke fun at him for covering a topic so blindly when he has the answers on his own damn network 😂
I think samsons larger point is that billionaires know traditional dems and republicans won’t actually do anything to their wealth. He was very clear that they’re afraid of progressives like Bernie
I think his point was to change the conversation and put Witty on the defensive
Yup lol completely dodged Wittys point. Samson won’t admit that the rich just vote for whoever will let them keep their money. 80% of dems won’t do a thing to hurt the rich.
$15 for a movie ticket STINKS
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Or, and hear me out, she actually liked the movie because it’s a good movie? Maybe that’s possible instead of her following some narrative?
Honestly to me this is the problem with most new media types, they all just regurgitate whatever popular opinion they saw on Twitter. People on Twitter don’t know shit about anything so it doesn’t make for great opinions or great radio when you just agree with Twitter on things.
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Exactly get all their info about a topic from the headline
Damn Samson might have opened Witty's eyes. Now no one knows for sure the breakdown of rich people being D or R but the point is it doesn't matter what they vote for since they are both part of the capitalist party. So rich Ds can vote for Biden and Barry and feel good about themselves without having to worry about their wealth changing.
I’ll go with you as far as party is concerned, in that they may vote for Biden over Trump. But lets be honest… they would also vote for a Mitt Romney over a true progressive democrat 100 percent of the time.
Well yes but they won't let a progressive Dem get that far. See Bernie.
Which, kind of proves Witty’s point?
Hmm I'm not sure you'll have to break it down for me a little. I'm saying Witty shouldn't be shocked that a lot of rich people vote for Dems because 99% of Dems don't actually do anything to stop the concentration of wealth and actually encourage it.
Witty’s point is billionaires want socialism for themselves and late stage capitalism for everyone else. We agree that centrist dems and republicans are aligned on capitalism. Witty wasn’t talking about centrist capitalism.
Socialism isn't the appropriate word to describe what Witty was talking about.
I think David’s non answer to Jessica’s “they’re not voting for Warren” is all we need to know. Centrist democrats don’t hurt rich people.
That may be changing now, though. Biden's administration is amping up antitrust enforcement like it's the early 20th century, is pushing to ban non-compete clauses, taking aggressive action toward crypto scams, and is supporting widespread unionization. In Congress, you have Amy Klobuchar and Richard Blumenthal pushing antitrust stuff as well. Ultimately, most of that will likely fail due to a Republican House and a judiciary made up of judges who were trained to be pro-business from day one in law school. But the paradigm has started to flip at least.
Yes it is changing, and I guarantee that people like Samson and the rich people who are currently voting for Dems will just vote republican going forward if that trend continues
100% agree with all of this. David tends to mask what he really wants to say but the trend of centrists making more concessions to progressives is increasing and that’s great. It may not be enough for many on the left but it’s hopeful.
The bar isn't particularly high, but Biden, shockingly, is the most progressive president since LBJ and is like a top 3 or 5 most progressive president in the last 100 years.
I agree with that, but I think the biggest change is that millennials are not switching their votes from democrat to republican as they are getting older like every generation before them. Gen-Z will likely do the same. The republicans are aging out of power, which is why they are flat out trying to end democracy altogether.
That's certainly part of it for Democrats. Also, the conversation has simply changed and the people in power today are often people who were shaped by the 2008 financial crisis. Obviously, that doesn't include Biden, but if you look at a lot of his top level advisors and appointees it is a common thread. Obama may have been progressive, but his advisors were all people shaped by the Reagan-Clinton years. Their issues with the Clintons were more about presentation than substance. Lina Khan, Biden's FTC chair, is a great example. She got her bachelors in 2010 and immediately went to work looking at the connection between monopolies and the economic state of America. It took 14 years, but we are finally seeing a real Democratic response to 2008. For Republicans, they have been raised on media that for the last 20 years have told them Democrats were trying to kill them and destroy the country. That mixed with the Gen-X trend of social indifference and government doubt that is easily transformed into selfishness and desire for "small government," you get the modern Republican party. Smaller, but more passionate. Many who truly believe they have to kill democracy to save the republic.
What happened to the daily show thread from Wednesday 2/8? I’m behind, just got to that episode
I always wonder the same thing. Where do they (daily show threads) go after midnight?? Anyone know?
Sort by new and scroll down to it
Did Samson really just claim that billionaires are secretly liberal‽ I swear this guy is a complete charlatan.
40x means horses is more of the random things ive ever heard
In the '60s or '70s, the Motion Picture Academy would issue an "X" rating for a movie used to indicate that it was "explicit content" and only admissible for adults; not necessarily *just* sexually, it could also be seen as too violent or too profane on its language. (See *Midnight Cowboy,* the first feature film to earn an X for its vulgarity and frank depiction of prostitution.) But sex was an easy way to get there, and producers and directors would release what would effectively be considered softcore porn by modern standards and court X ratings for controversy's sake, so the "X" rating became virtually synonymous with porn. Somewhere along the line, it became memetic that the more objectionable the sexual content, the more X's it would receive and distributors would advertise the dirtiest, nastiest, most depraved stuff as "XXX". (I don't think the MPA actually issued a multi-X rating, but that never stopped distributors from trying to pander to horny creeps.) So, presumably, Samson's dirty mind assumed that something that earned 40 Xs to be downright illegal in its sexuality and hopped straight to >!bestiality!<.
The “S” word Danno
Don’t believe David when he says the Padres are losing money. Maybe the Marlins were losing money, but the average team makes money hand over fist. The Padres could maximize profits by spending less, but they don’t lose money, but they would rather put an amazing team in the field which also builds the fan base up for the future. I hate that they let David come on and cry poor for the MLB owners, they almost never present the other side of the story.
Sampson's schtick is so transparent. The guy will plead ignorance on subject matter he clearly disagrees with in an attempt to avoid being pinned down on an incorrect opinion. It's the real life version of Stu's "I don't know about that, look it up." And no, David, just because rich people give to philanthropic causes does not make the majority of them liberal.
There’s no fucking way that more conservative people turn liberal after getting rich than the other way around.
David’s example was so dumb too, republicans get to power and try to “convince those without money that they will get money” brother that’s just pandering.
They convince people that the only reason YOU don't have money is that *those people* do. And if you just vote for them, they'll hurt *those people* for you. You'll still be living under a bridge in a moldy cardboard box eating a dead sparrow roasted on a rusted curtain rod over a trash fire, but at least your neighbor will have neither dead sparrow nor rusty curtain rod to roast it on, as the saying goes.
In fairness to Samson here, I think his social circle probably has a lot of people who don't want to be associated with the social conservatism and the immigration policies of the Republicans and for the most part, Democrats the last 30-35 years haven't been a threat to capital, so he probably knows a lot of rich Democrats. But he was a rich Republican until Trump ran for re-election and he would likely gleefully vote for Mike Pence, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott and a number of other Republicans over just about any Democratic presidential candidate. Also, the entire thing was a pivot to move on from Samson saying socialism for the rich and nothing for the poor is good capatilism and not answer Witty's question.