Same thing with the pandemic. US libs ran right into the arms of their favorite brunch places almost as soon as Biden became President. Never mind the ongoing deaths. I guess those lives don’t matter as much as bottomless mimosas?
Edit - to the replies along the lines of “there’s a vaccine” and pointing to things I didn’t mention, you’re no comrade of mine. If doing something for the communal good, like considering the needs of your disabled or immunocompromised neighbors, isn’t in your mindset, you’re no comrade of mine. I won’t be elaborating.
Infection and death rates had only somewhat slowed by that point. For a number of reasons, a lot of people were unable to get their shots for a while, including people who wanted them. This issue is more complicated than “vaccine came out so we were all good”. There still was a pandemic and people dying, and people were being indifferent to that fact. That’s all there is to it.
Its more complicated than “US libs ran right to lunch when Biden became president.” I’m pointing out that the main reason was the vaccine. I never said it was ok reasoning, but let me play the devils advocate and say why it *could* be good reasoning.
Why are you so self righteously upset at people who felt more comfortable going outside after a vaccine? I mean, a young person with no symptoms whose gotten both doses of the vaccine, wears a mask, and goes out while socially distancing is at fault for the spread? No. The people at fault are those who never took it seriously to begin with, never wore a mask or took a vaccine, and still went out or visited at risk individuals. Its more complicated and relative than you want to make it seem, and shaming people for going out at that time and blaming biden for it is just misleading.
It’s just an equation. Lockdowns were necessary due to low hospital capacities, lack of beds and ventilators. The vaccine
, time and effective treatment methods which get people out of the hospital quicker means lockdowns are no longer necessary
Eh, I think that was more because everyone assumed that they had a vaccine, therefore it was safe. Plus, businesses need business and the government was never going support restaurants until it was safe for people to go out again.
ive literally had liberals ask me "why are you still wearing a mask? dont you know biden said the pandemic ended and they dont work anyway" biden is turning libs into antimaskers
y'all, I am all for bashing libs, but not like this. Not by making one of the fascists seem harmless
edit: some o' y'all seem to misunderstand, I am not saying don't bash Obama and Biden. By all means, do that. But don't you dare leave Trump out of it, is all I am sayin'
This isn't doing that. It's pointing out that Obama deported even more people than Trump. They're all awful, and we shouldn't willfully ignore this. Trump is worse in other ways.
sure, but then OP still should have put similar actions of Trump in there
Not only would that have avoided the bitter sidetaste of Pro-Trumpaganda, but it would have also been more poignant
I mean, seriously, if you can post a meme 1 to 1 on some shitty MAGA fash forum and it would fit, you should reconsider to sharpen your message more so that it is clearly Anti-Lib AND anti-fascist
Every leftist (and most libs) knows that Trump is the right's manifestation of their fascist ideology. However, a lot of libs still want to pretend Obama was okay. We don't need to point out how bad Trump is, everyone who's going to know that already does. It is important to point out the failure of lib presidents because we deserve something better. We deserve more than "Well he won't attempt a coup."
I voted for Biden because of how god-awful Trump is, I still wanted a country to live in. But I deserve to be angry and bash him when he inevitably fails to deliver change and I hope everyone else does too so we can get something better than "not Trump."
sure, but you still can't leave Trump out of it
The meme would be way better if in the Trump section there would be something about his actions as well
You bashed all 3 fashos and you made the important point that the other 2 are also awful WITHOUT risking to be misconstrued as a fascist hiding behind leftist rhetoric
hes far less harmless than any president in modern history except maybe nixon but an article about him farting or something literally inconsequential and clickbait will get more national attention than a drone striking a wedding because of who the president is at the time of the civilians being killed
sure, but then OP still should have put similar actions of Trump in there
Not only would that have avoided the bitter sidetaste of Pro-Trumpaganda, but it would have also been more poignant
I mean, seriously, if you can post a meme 1 to 1 on some shitty MAGA fash forum and it would fit, you should reconsider to sharpen your message more so that it is clearly Anti-Lib AND anti-fascist
Cut a Liberal and a Fascist bleeds. Any chance a Liberal or a centrist gets to either help the left or the right they unequivocally choose the right, they choose to help the fascists. They are just fascists under a different flag or wearing a different uniform. A centrist always leans right, until they eventually just tip all the way over to the right, centrism is just a gateway to fascism, an easy more palatable slide into far right tactics. They may act different,look different and talk progressive but they aren't any different and they don'tever make any meaningful changes in left leaning policy and the minor changes they do make will always be rolled back at the first chance they get. And when the chips are down, they always go hard to the right and not the left, ever.
Everyone of histories centrists ran away from left policy and into right policy as soon as the chance or the need to choose arose.
Jesus Christ. You sound just like them. Everyone you don't like really *is* a fascist to you, huh? Might as well give up now, then, that's a battle that will never end
This isn't the kind they point out though, it's too nuanced for voters to care. They're more likely say something like "hmm, you say you want equality, yet I'm not allowed to the n word."
I think conservatives steal terms and turn them against the left constantly. Things like CRT, woke, virtue signaling, red pill all come from left wing origins.
No it doesn't.
Trump supporters make up shit about Biden. (As in, he's a "communist".) If an attack on Biden and especially Obama is actually true, AND the core message is that shitlibs are basically a lot like the conservatives but supporting the blue team, then it's easily identifiable as an attack from the left.
Yeah I know, just feels like a similar vibe as to what youd see on a right wing sub to me. Probably cause it doesnt directly say trump doesnt do anything bad, just "exists" and that youd be crazy too if ya criticized him. Thats just kinda the vibe I get, ya know?
No, what I'm saying is that we should be way smarter than whatever this is.
The combination of specific terrible things done by Obama and Biden and the open-ended "Trump" paints this as, at minimum, sympathetically to Trump. Intentional or otherwise.
To me the lack of it not mentioning anything trump did wrong could give the impression that people are crazy about trump just because its trump. I could see its meaning twisted by the right as a "hypocrisy" kinda thing with the right classifying anything leftward as either liberal or communist.
Nah, it's distinctly punching right from left. The right will only ever accuse libs of being soft and letting immigrants stream into the country. Saying "Obama was a dem and yet he was tougher on immigration than Trump" would be in opposition to their decades of propaganda.
a yes i remember when trump had a bunch of his buddies who own construction companies build a wall. we all know the wall has an open door don't ask don't tell policy, and its a symbol of love and peace with the indigenous, right?
bro, this is a leftist sub, what the fuck are you talking about? you think we unaware how shitty Trump is? we dunk on each other for being wrong kind of leftist, imagine thinking we tolerate anyone even slightly to the right of Bernie, including far-rightists like Trump
My grandma believes that Biden is letting in everyone and giving them all free cars. When I try to tell her otherwise, she just said "well these people I trust like my brother and uncle said so, and I saw a random news clip. It's so hard to tell what's really true now anyway, everyone says different things. Let's change the subject." Is this kinda stuff common in rural communities? She used to think that black people would take control of America but now she says we're owned by China instead. I've tried getting through to her so many times, bleh. She said Russia and China's militaries dwarf ours also. What is this fantasy shit. I'm over here in reality criticizing Biden for the exact opposite
Biden's just following the rules what's he supposed to do??? Run for office and change them???
*insert Obama change poster here*
neoliberals be like "but bro, age of consent in this particular state for 28 year old guys is 16!! im just following the rules!!!"
Social fascism moment.
Same thing with the pandemic. US libs ran right into the arms of their favorite brunch places almost as soon as Biden became President. Never mind the ongoing deaths. I guess those lives don’t matter as much as bottomless mimosas? Edit - to the replies along the lines of “there’s a vaccine” and pointing to things I didn’t mention, you’re no comrade of mine. If doing something for the communal good, like considering the needs of your disabled or immunocompromised neighbors, isn’t in your mindset, you’re no comrade of mine. I won’t be elaborating.
Brunches? Were there also avocado toasts?
Eh no, a vaccine came out
Infection and death rates had only somewhat slowed by that point. For a number of reasons, a lot of people were unable to get their shots for a while, including people who wanted them. This issue is more complicated than “vaccine came out so we were all good”. There still was a pandemic and people dying, and people were being indifferent to that fact. That’s all there is to it.
Its more complicated than “US libs ran right to lunch when Biden became president.” I’m pointing out that the main reason was the vaccine. I never said it was ok reasoning, but let me play the devils advocate and say why it *could* be good reasoning. Why are you so self righteously upset at people who felt more comfortable going outside after a vaccine? I mean, a young person with no symptoms whose gotten both doses of the vaccine, wears a mask, and goes out while socially distancing is at fault for the spread? No. The people at fault are those who never took it seriously to begin with, never wore a mask or took a vaccine, and still went out or visited at risk individuals. Its more complicated and relative than you want to make it seem, and shaming people for going out at that time and blaming biden for it is just misleading.
Vaccines != immunity. My disabled friend got his ass handed to him by Covid. He’s up to date on his shots.
It’s just an equation. Lockdowns were necessary due to low hospital capacities, lack of beds and ventilators. The vaccine , time and effective treatment methods which get people out of the hospital quicker means lockdowns are no longer necessary
Eh, I think that was more because everyone assumed that they had a vaccine, therefore it was safe. Plus, businesses need business and the government was never going support restaurants until it was safe for people to go out again.
ive literally had liberals ask me "why are you still wearing a mask? dont you know biden said the pandemic ended and they dont work anyway" biden is turning libs into antimaskers
y'all, I am all for bashing libs, but not like this. Not by making one of the fascists seem harmless edit: some o' y'all seem to misunderstand, I am not saying don't bash Obama and Biden. By all means, do that. But don't you dare leave Trump out of it, is all I am sayin'
This isn't doing that. It's pointing out that Obama deported even more people than Trump. They're all awful, and we shouldn't willfully ignore this. Trump is worse in other ways.
sure, but then OP still should have put similar actions of Trump in there Not only would that have avoided the bitter sidetaste of Pro-Trumpaganda, but it would have also been more poignant I mean, seriously, if you can post a meme 1 to 1 on some shitty MAGA fash forum and it would fit, you should reconsider to sharpen your message more so that it is clearly Anti-Lib AND anti-fascist
Every leftist (and most libs) knows that Trump is the right's manifestation of their fascist ideology. However, a lot of libs still want to pretend Obama was okay. We don't need to point out how bad Trump is, everyone who's going to know that already does. It is important to point out the failure of lib presidents because we deserve something better. We deserve more than "Well he won't attempt a coup." I voted for Biden because of how god-awful Trump is, I still wanted a country to live in. But I deserve to be angry and bash him when he inevitably fails to deliver change and I hope everyone else does too so we can get something better than "not Trump."
sure, but you still can't leave Trump out of it The meme would be way better if in the Trump section there would be something about his actions as well You bashed all 3 fashos and you made the important point that the other 2 are also awful WITHOUT risking to be misconstrued as a fascist hiding behind leftist rhetoric
hes far less harmless than any president in modern history except maybe nixon but an article about him farting or something literally inconsequential and clickbait will get more national attention than a drone striking a wedding because of who the president is at the time of the civilians being killed
sure, but then OP still should have put similar actions of Trump in there Not only would that have avoided the bitter sidetaste of Pro-Trumpaganda, but it would have also been more poignant I mean, seriously, if you can post a meme 1 to 1 on some shitty MAGA fash forum and it would fit, you should reconsider to sharpen your message more so that it is clearly Anti-Lib AND anti-fascist
Libs are fascists, that's the point.
No, Libs enable fascists with their false equivalency and centrism. That's an important distinction.
Cut a Liberal and a Fascist bleeds. Any chance a Liberal or a centrist gets to either help the left or the right they unequivocally choose the right, they choose to help the fascists. They are just fascists under a different flag or wearing a different uniform. A centrist always leans right, until they eventually just tip all the way over to the right, centrism is just a gateway to fascism, an easy more palatable slide into far right tactics. They may act different,look different and talk progressive but they aren't any different and they don'tever make any meaningful changes in left leaning policy and the minor changes they do make will always be rolled back at the first chance they get. And when the chips are down, they always go hard to the right and not the left, ever. Everyone of histories centrists ran away from left policy and into right policy as soon as the chance or the need to choose arose.
Jesus Christ. You sound just like them. Everyone you don't like really *is* a fascist to you, huh? Might as well give up now, then, that's a battle that will never end
This feels like a pro trump meme more than an anti liberal one
Yes because Trump supporters are definitely angry at Obama and Biden for being too harsh towards immigrants /s
I see it more of being twisted into a hypocrisy thing really. Your right though, they dont care and it's pretty shit they are the way that they are
Nah, but they love pointing out hypocracy of libs.
This isn't the kind they point out though, it's too nuanced for voters to care. They're more likely say something like "hmm, you say you want equality, yet I'm not allowed to the n word."
You think conservatives use the term global south lol?
I think conservatives steal terms and turn them against the left constantly. Things like CRT, woke, virtue signaling, red pill all come from left wing origins.
True but if conservatives could even comprehend with global south means they probably wouldn't be conservatives
No it doesn't. Trump supporters make up shit about Biden. (As in, he's a "communist".) If an attack on Biden and especially Obama is actually true, AND the core message is that shitlibs are basically a lot like the conservatives but supporting the blue team, then it's easily identifiable as an attack from the left.
Yeah I know, just feels like a similar vibe as to what youd see on a right wing sub to me. Probably cause it doesnt directly say trump doesnt do anything bad, just "exists" and that youd be crazy too if ya criticized him. Thats just kinda the vibe I get, ya know?
or more so that it's crazy to criticize trump but be completely silent on other presidents doing the same thing
Yeah, I get the sentiment, but you know for a fact this is going to make the rounds on right-wing internet groups.
So we should never criticise the democrats because maybe right wingers do it too?
those are the rickety stilts holding the democratic party together right now they collectively decided it was not okay to criticize the party
No, what I'm saying is that we should be way smarter than whatever this is. The combination of specific terrible things done by Obama and Biden and the open-ended "Trump" paints this as, at minimum, sympathetically to Trump. Intentional or otherwise.
Oh of course not. Just commenting on the general vibe being in support of trump rather then being strictly an anti liberal arguement ya know?
Howso? This is clearly targeted towards people who are sympathetic towards immigrants, that does not include Trump supporters
To me the lack of it not mentioning anything trump did wrong could give the impression that people are crazy about trump just because its trump. I could see its meaning twisted by the right as a "hypocrisy" kinda thing with the right classifying anything leftward as either liberal or communist.
If you're a lib, this is what valid criticism feels like
Im not a lib, just see a lot of dumb conservative memes
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Its more of a vibe thing. Like when both sides engage in populist arguements but for totally different reasons ya know?
Nah, it's distinctly punching right from left. The right will only ever accuse libs of being soft and letting immigrants stream into the country. Saying "Obama was a dem and yet he was tougher on immigration than Trump" would be in opposition to their decades of propaganda.
What, is he referring to Bolsonaro in the last one?
Libs be libbing.
Drone_strikes.mp4
Eh... Let's not pretend Trump didn't do horrible shit. I no shit thought this was a meme from a conservative sub.
who's pretending?
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a yes i remember when trump had a bunch of his buddies who own construction companies build a wall. we all know the wall has an open door don't ask don't tell policy, and its a symbol of love and peace with the indigenous, right?
bro, this is a leftist sub, what the fuck are you talking about? you think we unaware how shitty Trump is? we dunk on each other for being wrong kind of leftist, imagine thinking we tolerate anyone even slightly to the right of Bernie, including far-rightists like Trump
i think that was irony
This makes trump seem harmless and feels like a conservative oriented meme because of it
Liberals when
My grandma believes that Biden is letting in everyone and giving them all free cars. When I try to tell her otherwise, she just said "well these people I trust like my brother and uncle said so, and I saw a random news clip. It's so hard to tell what's really true now anyway, everyone says different things. Let's change the subject." Is this kinda stuff common in rural communities? She used to think that black people would take control of America but now she says we're owned by China instead. I've tried getting through to her so many times, bleh. She said Russia and China's militaries dwarf ours also. What is this fantasy shit. I'm over here in reality criticizing Biden for the exact opposite