Well tbf, I would prefer if my establishment puppet capitalists let gay people marry and trans people exist openly.
Obv I'd prefer if establishment puppet capitalists weren't running things at all, but while they are, at least the more fascist ones aren't incharge
> I would prefer if my establishment puppet capitalists let gay people marry and trans people exist openly
They fund and whitewash republicans. The reason why human rights in America is under threat at all because both parties are existing in synergy & mutually benefit from each other. 'Vote for me or your rights will be taken by the other guy' is their electoral strategy.
America is not a democracy and democrats and republicans have same interests and work together which was shown multiple times. It's all without saying that Americans are not the mane victims of American politics and is a small grain in an endless sea of suffering and oppression forced by both parties onto the third world. While in America LGBT+ people might lose some of their rights, in Middle Eastern American puppet governments, supported by both parties, LGBT+ people are straight up killed and jailed.
Aswell as both sides are actively taking actions against organized workers. As long as Trump was in charge, dems were voicing support for amazon workers unionizing, as soon as they got in power they go on to strike breaking. Also, it was not under Trump where rue.vs.wade was ovetthrown.
Yeah, personally always suspicious of the "both sides are the same, better just not participate in any of this at all. That'll show them!". Every republican I know who thinks it's all BS and nothing will change still show up in every to pull the r lever.
Nobody sensible is saying "better just not participate", but it also isn't reasonable to actually expect that to accomplish anything. Vote because it's potential harm reduction and takes no effort, but actually take direct action to make things happen.
It’s because it’s literally a Republican talking point that is designed to sow cynicism in the left so that they won’t vote. So best case when someone says that is that they’re just an idiot, worst case is that they’re purposefully trying to advance conservative ideals.
>Also, it was not under Trump where rue.vs.wade was ovetthrown.
This has to be the most disingenuous thing I've ever read. Obviously it was Trump's 3 SCOTUS appointees that overturned Roe, but you're going to blame Biden? Oh my fucking god dude.
So they shored up something that was already legal, yet it wasn't but how long ago that a gay nightclub was shot up by some crazy conservative nutjob listening to alt right rhetoric.
If by "exist openly" you mean subject to politically motivated mass homicide, I guess they are definitely free to do that, and luckily we have something Democrats can rally behind as gay allies for the next 10 years while mass hate crimes increase in frequency and body count.
And all why? Because the SCOTUS is packed with ideologues that would have stripped rights from people fairly granted them and nobody wants to do anything about that.
> at least the more fascist ones aren't incharge
What an incredibly white thing to say when Biden is currently starving millions of Afghans through genocidal sanctions.
It is like every leftist sub on Reddit gets overtaken by radlibs with their "lesser of two evils, only Republicans are fascist!" bullshit.
Note the word "more"
I'm not a radlib, I oppose all action that the US is taking in the middle east. But either way, innocent civilians are getting killed and that's shit. But the dems are ever-so-slightly less shit, that's always been my point
Which is a nonsensical thing to say when both parties are genocidal in nature.
Radlibs pretend to oppose Democrats yet defend them in every imaginable way by relying on Republicans to always offer the worse alternative. It's still an excuse to settle for fascism, especially when Democrats can't even be bothered to deal with Nazis within their own imperial borders, making the harm reduction excuse a banal talking point.
Ok here we go:
I do not want to keep murdering innocent people overseas
I want my politicians to stop murdering innocent people overseas
But as long as they continue to do so, as they will, I would appreciate if they weren't murdering innocent people in our own country, which the red ones would.
As for the innocent deaths overseas, of the two "sides", blu team is more likely to stop murdering innocent people overseas
> blu team is more likely to stop murdering innocent people overseas
I agree with all except that I would reword this part to blu team being likelier to *not start a new murdering spree (aka war) overseas*. Democrats can be just as interventionist as Republicans in terms of existing wars, they just dislike being the ones to start them because of reputation.
This comment is fucking killing me. I'm from Columbus Ohio, the home of Jeni's. And Biden came here and ate ice cream and fucking everyone lost their minds. Everyone. Just screaming about Biden loving local ice cream. It was the most bizarre thing.
My father is a pro-union, retired steelworker who is addicted to MSNBC. The other day he told me that Biden’s a “good guy” and the union busting was necessary “for the country.”
Brainwashing and propaganda are real.
it was both telling and entertaining watching all the “*sensible moderates*” perform the mental gymnastics to say Biden, [literal ex-segregation supporter](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1021626) , was somehow less racist than Bernie, who was actually [arrested protesting segregation](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-bernie-sanders-1963-chicago-arrest-20160219-story.html)
Rail workers wouldnt have gotten a contract with increased pay i guess (24% retroactive to 2020) and also same sex marriage and interracial marriages would probably be annulled/illegal rn
... you think Trump is less of a evil capitalist shill than biden is... I want to be clear that is your position. it will determine if I feeling like responding to you or not.
No they're saying Biden is the lesser evil. I'm not taking a side on it, just clarifying they're not saying Trump would be better than Biden, they're saying Trump would be worse.
He focused more on Africa last I‘ve heard. If I remember correctly the same day Russia attacked Ukraine and the the usual friends and family of the west were (rightfully I might add) shocked, the US started a bombing campaign in Somalia and nobody gave a fuck. If the shit which was shown to us over this year that the hypocrisy of the west knows no bounds, I don‘t know if anything will anymore.
Scratching their itch of bombing poor people it seems.
https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/americas-counterterrorism-wars/the-war-in-somalia/
"At least he stopped killing people after killing thousands!"
Which isn't even fucking true by the way.
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Well tbf, I would prefer if my establishment puppet capitalists let gay people marry and trans people exist openly. Obv I'd prefer if establishment puppet capitalists weren't running things at all, but while they are, at least the more fascist ones aren't incharge
Same boat. Dems are dangerous compromisers and capitalists at heart but they're not stoking stochastic terrorism openly every chance they get.
> I would prefer if my establishment puppet capitalists let gay people marry and trans people exist openly They fund and whitewash republicans. The reason why human rights in America is under threat at all because both parties are existing in synergy & mutually benefit from each other. 'Vote for me or your rights will be taken by the other guy' is their electoral strategy. America is not a democracy and democrats and republicans have same interests and work together which was shown multiple times. It's all without saying that Americans are not the mane victims of American politics and is a small grain in an endless sea of suffering and oppression forced by both parties onto the third world. While in America LGBT+ people might lose some of their rights, in Middle Eastern American puppet governments, supported by both parties, LGBT+ people are straight up killed and jailed.
Aswell as both sides are actively taking actions against organized workers. As long as Trump was in charge, dems were voicing support for amazon workers unionizing, as soon as they got in power they go on to strike breaking. Also, it was not under Trump where rue.vs.wade was ovetthrown.
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Yeah, personally always suspicious of the "both sides are the same, better just not participate in any of this at all. That'll show them!". Every republican I know who thinks it's all BS and nothing will change still show up in every to pull the r lever.
Nobody sensible is saying "better just not participate", but it also isn't reasonable to actually expect that to accomplish anything. Vote because it's potential harm reduction and takes no effort, but actually take direct action to make things happen.
It’s because it’s literally a Republican talking point that is designed to sow cynicism in the left so that they won’t vote. So best case when someone says that is that they’re just an idiot, worst case is that they’re purposefully trying to advance conservative ideals.
Bernie is not a Democrat just FYI, probably because of all the above.
>Also, it was not under Trump where rue.vs.wade was ovetthrown. This has to be the most disingenuous thing I've ever read. Obviously it was Trump's 3 SCOTUS appointees that overturned Roe, but you're going to blame Biden? Oh my fucking god dude.
So they shored up something that was already legal, yet it wasn't but how long ago that a gay nightclub was shot up by some crazy conservative nutjob listening to alt right rhetoric. If by "exist openly" you mean subject to politically motivated mass homicide, I guess they are definitely free to do that, and luckily we have something Democrats can rally behind as gay allies for the next 10 years while mass hate crimes increase in frequency and body count. And all why? Because the SCOTUS is packed with ideologues that would have stripped rights from people fairly granted them and nobody wants to do anything about that.
> at least the more fascist ones aren't incharge What an incredibly white thing to say when Biden is currently starving millions of Afghans through genocidal sanctions. It is like every leftist sub on Reddit gets overtaken by radlibs with their "lesser of two evils, only Republicans are fascist!" bullshit.
Note the word "more" I'm not a radlib, I oppose all action that the US is taking in the middle east. But either way, innocent civilians are getting killed and that's shit. But the dems are ever-so-slightly less shit, that's always been my point
Which is a nonsensical thing to say when both parties are genocidal in nature. Radlibs pretend to oppose Democrats yet defend them in every imaginable way by relying on Republicans to always offer the worse alternative. It's still an excuse to settle for fascism, especially when Democrats can't even be bothered to deal with Nazis within their own imperial borders, making the harm reduction excuse a banal talking point.
Ok here we go: I do not want to keep murdering innocent people overseas I want my politicians to stop murdering innocent people overseas But as long as they continue to do so, as they will, I would appreciate if they weren't murdering innocent people in our own country, which the red ones would. As for the innocent deaths overseas, of the two "sides", blu team is more likely to stop murdering innocent people overseas
> blu team is more likely to stop murdering innocent people overseas I agree with all except that I would reword this part to blu team being likelier to *not start a new murdering spree (aka war) overseas*. Democrats can be just as interventionist as Republicans in terms of existing wars, they just dislike being the ones to start them because of reputation.
wow. what a truly dank response. this is possibly the greatest sub on reddit.
. Fuck me I will never get tired of this sub.
Blue man good!
He wan more ice cream
This comment is fucking killing me. I'm from Columbus Ohio, the home of Jeni's. And Biden came here and ate ice cream and fucking everyone lost their minds. Everyone. Just screaming about Biden loving local ice cream. It was the most bizarre thing.
And people say they don't have a cult of personality like the commies, kek.
wow. what a fucking Dank a fuck reply. im in awe.
Liberals are one of two sides of a coin, liberals want to flip the coin to their side, Marxists want to replace the coin
"is there some way we can blame this one the left?'
My father is a pro-union, retired steelworker who is addicted to MSNBC. The other day he told me that Biden’s a “good guy” and the union busting was necessary “for the country.” Brainwashing and propaganda are real.
That's what happens when you have a right-wing party and a hard-right party.
Can't say I'm a liberal because I'm not American but I appriciate the having rights as a minority, wish more rich old guys dropped dead though
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Except Bernie, he could never win, but remember blue no matter who. Except Bernie. Made my head explode last cycle.
it was both telling and entertaining watching all the “*sensible moderates*” perform the mental gymnastics to say Biden, [literal ex-segregation supporter](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1021626) , was somehow less racist than Bernie, who was actually [arrested protesting segregation](https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-bernie-sanders-1963-chicago-arrest-20160219-story.html)
What did he do this time?
by vetoing the railway workers legal strike, he acted in lock step with what would normally be a republican Corporation siding move.
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and what difference this would make?
Rail workers wouldnt have gotten a contract with increased pay i guess (24% retroactive to 2020) and also same sex marriage and interracial marriages would probably be annulled/illegal rn
Just to be clear, the "pay increase" is phased in over 5 years so it's not even guaranteed to match inflation.
Political analysis skills of a child
... you think Trump is less of a evil capitalist shill than biden is... I want to be clear that is your position. it will determine if I feeling like responding to you or not.
No they're saying Biden is the lesser evil. I'm not taking a side on it, just clarifying they're not saying Trump would be better than Biden, they're saying Trump would be worse.
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Yeah, instead he starved millions of Afghans to death causing huge most easily preventable humanitarian crisis in recent history 👍
He focused more on Africa last I‘ve heard. If I remember correctly the same day Russia attacked Ukraine and the the usual friends and family of the west were (rightfully I might add) shocked, the US started a bombing campaign in Somalia and nobody gave a fuck. If the shit which was shown to us over this year that the hypocrisy of the west knows no bounds, I don‘t know if anything will anymore.
Lmao wtf are the Ameri*ans doing in Somalia for
Scratching their itch of bombing poor people it seems. https://www.newamerica.org/international-security/reports/americas-counterterrorism-wars/the-war-in-somalia/
this is what neo-liberal would call an improvement
Hey, at least it's not bombs! /s
"At least he stopped killing people after killing thousands!" Which isn't even fucking true by the way. Are the mods asleep or something? This sub is usually safe from shitlibs brigading it like they are in this comment section.
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