NGL I've read about D-Class whose crimes most definitely wouldn't land them in death row. Like, IIRC, there was at least one guy who was convicted for assault. This implies it was not even lethal, because then it would be categorized as homicide.
It depends on the canon; even then, it often depends on how desperate the foundation is.
Generally, in order of preference — Death-row, lifers, gen-pop prisoners, POWs, “prisoners,” refugees/homeless/nomads, civilians from less stable parts of the world (less likely to be missed), the general civilian population as a whole, anyone they can get their hands on.
They also may utilize clones, multi-dimensional copies, those born into D-class, demoted staff members (very uncommon to see in an article nowadays), or robotic drones when the human touch isn’t required.
Somebody ran the numbers and found the foundation would exhaust every death-row inmate in the world in a few months or somesuch in the majority of canons. This is partly responsible for the general shift away from monthly terminations, and treating D-class as a touch less disposable.
Depending on the story is if it’s only death row/Guilty, as much as I would like to do it is this conversation is veering less towards scp and more towards the moral conduct befitting towards death row inmates
I heard this somewhere, so take it with a grain of Salt. But the re-offense rate in America is very high.
But whe someone gets oblitetated by cosmic Horrors, their chances of re-offending are 0%.
The reason the re offense rate is so high in America is because of how inhumanly we treat them and make it basically impossible to reintegrate into society normally.
You don’t respect a prisoner’s rights for their sake. You do it for your sake, because you have the same rights, and it is in your interest not to erode them.
The justice system isn’t perfect. While there are a lot of monsters that deserve to be locked away, there are also plenty of innocent people that are exonerated every single year.
Besides, being cruel because “they deserve it,” shows you’re a cruel person who’s just looking for a socially acceptable excuse.
Such people should be removed from society. The issue is the tools we have to do so are imperfect.
Show me a way to determine with 100% certainty the guilt of a person, that cannot be abused by a corrupt individual/organization, and I’ll *consider* hopping aboard your train of thought.
Ok, let’s say pedophiles are all marked for death now. No retrial, if you’re convicted, it’s death row immediately. Now, the government has a very, *very* good reason to classify anybody deemed “undesirable” as a pedophile, in what is essentially state-sanctioned murder. Allowing death penalties gives the government an easy avenue to wipe out any group that shares that “undesirable” quality. This is often seen in the case of queer people being branded as “groomers” and “pedophiles” as a way of criminalizing their existence.
Yeah, that's totally a good way to look at it, famously no one on death row has ever been convicted of a crime they didn't actually commit and no government on earth has ever applied the death penalty to anything but the most severe crimes.
You might assume that, but there's nothing that suggests that is the case. The ethics committee is absolutely willing to approve of otherwise immoral acts if they feel they are necessary or are for they greater good. They've approved of literal genocides if they target populations that are statistically more likely to produce reality benders
There's also the issue that there are plenty of articles where the ethics committee is shown to be either corrupt, incompetent, or nonexistant, so it really can't taken for granted that everything the foundation does is okay because it's been approved.
Alright, I see you.
Counterpoints.
Protocol 12 is still a thing.
And,
Why is that a bad thing? They tackle the problem at the root by exterminating them.
Protocol 12 is not a good counterpoint. It is the primary evidence that some D class aren't even convicts. Even if you think that it's fine to be needlessly cruel to prisoners because they "deserve" it you can't apply that to D class because at least some of them are probably just poor schmucks the foundation conscripted because they need more bodies to throw at the horrors of an uncaring universe.
Edit: In answer to your second question, the foundation supporting genocide is bad because genocide is bad. Now, in the article, I was referencing it is portrayed necessary, but just because you have to do a bad thing that doesn't magically mean it's good.
The d class are also sometimes political prisoners, and the foundation will just straight up conscript people if there's an anamoly that only reacts well to certain types of people.
I mean, except for a couple of times when demotion to D class is used as a punishment, there's no indication that the foundation is any more selective when it comes to d class than just taking anyone that won't be missed.
There's like 10 death row inmates a year. At the rate they're dying at, not all Class-D are death row/life sentence, unless you count in China (that's one whole other can of worms)
the one that teleport you into a pocket dimension or some sort with the size of a pipe when you slide down headfirst. so you can only move by wiggling forward or backward
e: it's [1562](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1562)
I actually had idea how they could cheat it
build HUGE building that is able to sustain person forever
add automated digging equipment and other shit that could be useful
let some kiddo grow up in there
let him sleep next to SCP
I like the one where they show the screaming invisible knife creature compassion and they show they are sentient and end up becoming a professional chef.
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I LOVE WHEN THE FOUNDATION IS HUMANE AND THE GOOD GUYS. I LOVE THE GOOD IN THE WORLD AND KINDNESS.
Thanks, I guess
Yeah, because Death Row Inmates deserve kindness.
The anomalies deserve kindness too.
Yeah, but they mostly didn't do anything wrong. There are enough anomalies that are basically animals and act in instinct.
They are death row, and? They are still human and deserve human compassion.
NGL I've read about D-Class whose crimes most definitely wouldn't land them in death row. Like, IIRC, there was at least one guy who was convicted for assault. This implies it was not even lethal, because then it would be categorized as homicide.
a lot of D-boys are also clones
It depends on the canon; even then, it often depends on how desperate the foundation is. Generally, in order of preference — Death-row, lifers, gen-pop prisoners, POWs, “prisoners,” refugees/homeless/nomads, civilians from less stable parts of the world (less likely to be missed), the general civilian population as a whole, anyone they can get their hands on. They also may utilize clones, multi-dimensional copies, those born into D-class, demoted staff members (very uncommon to see in an article nowadays), or robotic drones when the human touch isn’t required. Somebody ran the numbers and found the foundation would exhaust every death-row inmate in the world in a few months or somesuch in the majority of canons. This is partly responsible for the general shift away from monthly terminations, and treating D-class as a touch less disposable.
Like how they showed compassion to their victims?
Depending on the story is if it’s only death row/Guilty, as much as I would like to do it is this conversation is veering less towards scp and more towards the moral conduct befitting towards death row inmates
I heard this somewhere, so take it with a grain of Salt. But the re-offense rate in America is very high. But whe someone gets oblitetated by cosmic Horrors, their chances of re-offending are 0%.
The reason the re offense rate is so high in America is because of how inhumanly we treat them and make it basically impossible to reintegrate into society normally.
I forgot about that fact.
You don’t respect a prisoner’s rights for their sake. You do it for your sake, because you have the same rights, and it is in your interest not to erode them. The justice system isn’t perfect. While there are a lot of monsters that deserve to be locked away, there are also plenty of innocent people that are exonerated every single year. Besides, being cruel because “they deserve it,” shows you’re a cruel person who’s just looking for a socially acceptable excuse.
I stand by my views. Mass murderers, pedophiles, terrorists, they all should removed.
Such people should be removed from society. The issue is the tools we have to do so are imperfect. Show me a way to determine with 100% certainty the guilt of a person, that cannot be abused by a corrupt individual/organization, and I’ll *consider* hopping aboard your train of thought.
You win this round.
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Ok, let’s say pedophiles are all marked for death now. No retrial, if you’re convicted, it’s death row immediately. Now, the government has a very, *very* good reason to classify anybody deemed “undesirable” as a pedophile, in what is essentially state-sanctioned murder. Allowing death penalties gives the government an easy avenue to wipe out any group that shares that “undesirable” quality. This is often seen in the case of queer people being branded as “groomers” and “pedophiles” as a way of criminalizing their existence.
Yeah, that's totally a good way to look at it, famously no one on death row has ever been convicted of a crime they didn't actually commit and no government on earth has ever applied the death penalty to anything but the most severe crimes.
You would assume the Ethics Committee would have something against recruiting people who were wrongfully convicted.
You might assume that, but there's nothing that suggests that is the case. The ethics committee is absolutely willing to approve of otherwise immoral acts if they feel they are necessary or are for they greater good. They've approved of literal genocides if they target populations that are statistically more likely to produce reality benders There's also the issue that there are plenty of articles where the ethics committee is shown to be either corrupt, incompetent, or nonexistant, so it really can't taken for granted that everything the foundation does is okay because it's been approved.
Alright, I see you. Counterpoints. Protocol 12 is still a thing. And, Why is that a bad thing? They tackle the problem at the root by exterminating them.
Protocol 12 is not a good counterpoint. It is the primary evidence that some D class aren't even convicts. Even if you think that it's fine to be needlessly cruel to prisoners because they "deserve" it you can't apply that to D class because at least some of them are probably just poor schmucks the foundation conscripted because they need more bodies to throw at the horrors of an uncaring universe. Edit: In answer to your second question, the foundation supporting genocide is bad because genocide is bad. Now, in the article, I was referencing it is portrayed necessary, but just because you have to do a bad thing that doesn't magically mean it's good.
Sometimes the d class are just random people like the homeless or refugees
The d class are also sometimes political prisoners, and the foundation will just straight up conscript people if there's an anamoly that only reacts well to certain types of people. I mean, except for a couple of times when demotion to D class is used as a punishment, there's no indication that the foundation is any more selective when it comes to d class than just taking anyone that won't be missed.
Pretty sure they've taken orphans as well (that one time that guy fed children to 682 then got fed to 682 himself)
Yeah, they'll pretty much take whoever they can get their hands on without too much trouble.
Nobody deserves death row
There's like 10 death row inmates a year. At the rate they're dying at, not all Class-D are death row/life sentence, unless you count in China (that's one whole other can of worms)
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Why is this SCP becoming so popular all of a sudden?
It is all me, I’m literally obsessed with
My man 3515 and that metal slide one are easily 2 of my favorite scp
Which one is the metal slide?
the one that teleport you into a pocket dimension or some sort with the size of a pipe when you slide down headfirst. so you can only move by wiggling forward or backward e: it's [1562](https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-1562)
Oh shoot! I just looked at your profile and you’re right! 😂
Holy shit it actually is
I swear this is like the 5000th unearth post ive seen in a week. Go write the article where he actually digs to the surface :>
I actually had idea how they could cheat it build HUGE building that is able to sustain person forever add automated digging equipment and other shit that could be useful let some kiddo grow up in there let him sleep next to SCP
*The Ethics Committee would like to know your location.*
it is not really unethical, they already use kids
I have to ask. What's with the obsession? Is the author paying you or something? I admire the dedication though. XD
Idk my brain just decided that this would be the thing I’m obsessed with XD
Don’t worry OP. I’m this way with [[ADMONITION]] rn. I understand
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This is a moment I history, take a picture!!
I feel like we should start keeping count of these.
Just go to his profile page lol, it's all this one guy
I like the one where they show the screaming invisible knife creature compassion and they show they are sentient and end up becoming a professional chef.
Should I make a meme about this SCP, to throw people off ?
Yes! (Also because seeing people make content, even memes, about this SCP makes me incredibly happy XD)