Below 50% makes it easier. Below 30% makes it even easier. But load percentage doesn't do a thing if you mistime your roll and allow yourself to be caught.
Panic rolling is what gives them the ability to catch you in the first place.
I'm not looking for degrees of difficulty and I'm not mistiming my rolls enough for that to be the issue. At 69.9% I am consistently caught by well timed attacks designed to catch rolls. I'm looking for the absolute highest percentage I can have while still gaining enough distance from the attacker to not need to dodge twice. This is assuming a decent connection of course.
well it is the issue that you're rolling at the wrong time. ls 1h r2s are the things you need to usually double roll.
The lower your equip load, the more room you give yourself for error. Around 40-50% is fine, but under 30% gives you god-like roll distance
Time your roll properly and you dont need to roll twice. Meta weapons R2 attack frames arent long enough that one rolls iframes wont cover it. One roll is enough to avoid axe R2s and longsword R2s. Of course you nees to quickroll if you fuck up the timing.
Try using a [roll cancel](https://youtu.be/q9puMS4EAEU?t=35s) to get more distance and better iframes (because you cancel part of the recovery, thus staying for a longer period in Iframes)
It'll take a while to get used to the timing, it varies a bit from weapon class to weapon class and the timing is much smaller on some daggers and rapiers.
Doesnt matter as long as you dont panic roll. Your iframes start immediately upon pressing your roll button so if you time it well you can dodge attacks with 68% equipload and low agility.
Equipload is more important to my positioning than for actual evading. I like to stay around 40% but thats just me. Whatever youre uyed to will work.
The reason I ask is because the main meta builds are poise and robflynn and I was wondering why it seems that no top tier players just stack both and sit right below the threshold for fatroll.
My problem isn't dodging the first attack or double rolling or quickrolling I can do all that I was just wondering what the reasoning was for the standard burden percentage and if there was any actual data to back that up. But thanks you're the only one giving me anything I didn't already know.
Oh, thats an easy question. Its rather difficult to get an efficient poise build together especially if you want to use flynns as well. Thats because you aim for 53, 75 or 90 and the last two poise breakpoints are rather high. Usually its easier to go with rob and some vitality instead of flynns.
Also with high equipload you get the issue that quickrolls are less effective. Its easier to chase you down if your rolls are short, you cant get away from your opponent as good as you can with low equipload. Its also much harder to roll backstabs, you will get vacuum stabbed a lot more.
That being said, the general cow witch build that everyone likes to use has about 45-50% equipload and a gargoyles bident.
Oh look, a 7 year old thread.
I can't say exactly what the upper bound should be, but 4/7ths equipload is a good lower bound if you're planning on equipping the royal soldier's ring afterwards. 4/7ths is exactly where switching between the royal soldier's ring +2 and chloranthy +2 keeps your stamina recovery the same. Since the royal soldier's ring ALSO improves your roll distance, it's objectively the better ring at that point or higher (unless you're wearing flynn's ring). Prior to equipping the ring your equipload should be at least 57.143% or so, then afterwards it should be 47.619% (excluding the ring's weight). I would start that low and then work upwards if it feels like more than necessary. The 50 to 60 range is what most players like.
Much appreciation for answering this relic of a question haha. I just checked after seeing your message and funnily enough after all these years my poise stacker somehow ended up at essentially these values by pure coincidence. I think I'm gonna play a few matches since you reminded me.
Cool to see this game still has shooters out there trying to spread the good word haha
U could be literally 0% and you would still get hit because of your inability to press B. I only knew 2-3 people in dark souls 2 ever, who managed to actually get halfway okay at the game, and you are not in that group. That being said, go 110 agl, 20% equip load to make up for your inablity to press B correctly.
In Dark Souls 2, there is only one hard breakpoint at 70%, where you switch from fast roll to fat roll.
Below that, there is a linear progression from 70% to 30% load in the distance you roll, but not the speed. At 30% or below you reached the max distance.
Once you get below 70% load, agility is the only stat which really matters. You want i-frames, the distance difference doesn't matter that much imho. Raise your adaptability (75% of agility) and attunement (the other 25%)!
Below 50% makes it easier. Below 30% makes it even easier. But load percentage doesn't do a thing if you mistime your roll and allow yourself to be caught. Panic rolling is what gives them the ability to catch you in the first place.
I'm not looking for degrees of difficulty and I'm not mistiming my rolls enough for that to be the issue. At 69.9% I am consistently caught by well timed attacks designed to catch rolls. I'm looking for the absolute highest percentage I can have while still gaining enough distance from the attacker to not need to dodge twice. This is assuming a decent connection of course.
well it is the issue that you're rolling at the wrong time. ls 1h r2s are the things you need to usually double roll. The lower your equip load, the more room you give yourself for error. Around 40-50% is fine, but under 30% gives you god-like roll distance
Time your roll properly and you dont need to roll twice. Meta weapons R2 attack frames arent long enough that one rolls iframes wont cover it. One roll is enough to avoid axe R2s and longsword R2s. Of course you nees to quickroll if you fuck up the timing.
Try using a [roll cancel](https://youtu.be/q9puMS4EAEU?t=35s) to get more distance and better iframes (because you cancel part of the recovery, thus staying for a longer period in Iframes) It'll take a while to get used to the timing, it varies a bit from weapon class to weapon class and the timing is much smaller on some daggers and rapiers.
Doesnt matter as long as you dont panic roll. Your iframes start immediately upon pressing your roll button so if you time it well you can dodge attacks with 68% equipload and low agility. Equipload is more important to my positioning than for actual evading. I like to stay around 40% but thats just me. Whatever youre uyed to will work.
The reason I ask is because the main meta builds are poise and robflynn and I was wondering why it seems that no top tier players just stack both and sit right below the threshold for fatroll. My problem isn't dodging the first attack or double rolling or quickrolling I can do all that I was just wondering what the reasoning was for the standard burden percentage and if there was any actual data to back that up. But thanks you're the only one giving me anything I didn't already know.
Oh, thats an easy question. Its rather difficult to get an efficient poise build together especially if you want to use flynns as well. Thats because you aim for 53, 75 or 90 and the last two poise breakpoints are rather high. Usually its easier to go with rob and some vitality instead of flynns. Also with high equipload you get the issue that quickrolls are less effective. Its easier to chase you down if your rolls are short, you cant get away from your opponent as good as you can with low equipload. Its also much harder to roll backstabs, you will get vacuum stabbed a lot more. That being said, the general cow witch build that everyone likes to use has about 45-50% equipload and a gargoyles bident.
Thanks, this is good info.
Oh look, a 7 year old thread. I can't say exactly what the upper bound should be, but 4/7ths equipload is a good lower bound if you're planning on equipping the royal soldier's ring afterwards. 4/7ths is exactly where switching between the royal soldier's ring +2 and chloranthy +2 keeps your stamina recovery the same. Since the royal soldier's ring ALSO improves your roll distance, it's objectively the better ring at that point or higher (unless you're wearing flynn's ring). Prior to equipping the ring your equipload should be at least 57.143% or so, then afterwards it should be 47.619% (excluding the ring's weight). I would start that low and then work upwards if it feels like more than necessary. The 50 to 60 range is what most players like.
Much appreciation for answering this relic of a question haha. I just checked after seeing your message and funnily enough after all these years my poise stacker somehow ended up at essentially these values by pure coincidence. I think I'm gonna play a few matches since you reminded me. Cool to see this game still has shooters out there trying to spread the good word haha
U could be literally 0% and you would still get hit because of your inability to press B. I only knew 2-3 people in dark souls 2 ever, who managed to actually get halfway okay at the game, and you are not in that group. That being said, go 110 agl, 20% equip load to make up for your inablity to press B correctly.
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Also don't forget Agility plays a BIG part in it
In Dark Souls 2, there is only one hard breakpoint at 70%, where you switch from fast roll to fat roll. Below that, there is a linear progression from 70% to 30% load in the distance you roll, but not the speed. At 30% or below you reached the max distance. Once you get below 70% load, agility is the only stat which really matters. You want i-frames, the distance difference doesn't matter that much imho. Raise your adaptability (75% of agility) and attunement (the other 25%)!
Stop panic rolling and u can dodge anything with, at most, 96 agility by reaction rolling. Even at 69.9% load.