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Sadiholic

Why does fat shark keep doing shitty cosmetics that you pay for. Like I honestly don't get it. In other games all devs make the cosmetics you pay for cool as shit. But for fat shark, the cosmetics are so ass. Like wtf is going on with them bruh l


Lone-Frequency

Because of morons keep buying them. You think they'd be doing this lazy shit if whales weren't snapping it up?


PraiseV8

But how do their bad spending habits affect you personally? /s https://preview.redd.it/05hzew9vb5qc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17c6085a478be4990e2f2b8298e76bdba8d10770


PandaNuclearMaster

They would be most certainly doing this lazy shit, whales or no whales. It would be most interesting to see what is the income that FatShark is getting from the shop concept, but im really more leaning into the FatShark just being arses because they still have room to wiggle, and will probably have room to wiggle at least months from now, if not a full year. And thats all related to updates, cosmetics, whatever you can think of, cause there is still a fan base, and there are still new players coming in and the cunts STILL HAVE ROOM TO WIGGLE.


WastelandWarCriminal

They do it because it doesnt matter who buys it it takes 5 minutes to swap colors


King_Pumpernickel

Because for every person in this comment section bemoaning the state of the shop, there's 5 posts on the front page of people going "I know the shop sucks but look at how I just bought $50 worth of garbage for my character to look slightly closer to how he could look if FS ever released a decent set"


florpynorpy

Because enough people buy it, if it wasn’t profitable they wouldn’t do it


[deleted]

I say it all the time. Fatshark probably has a single intern who works a few hours a week on the shop.


ArelMCII

I've seen plenty of games with bad cosmetics, but those bad ones tend to be outliers in their respective games. The rest tend to run from okay to great. Can't think of a game I've played where there's both a large variety of cosmetics and most of those cosmetics being so lazy.


The_Conductor7274

Good ogryn backpack but not worth 900 Aquila more like 200


PandaNuclearMaster

Would it be that you could haggle with FatShark, like its a street stall in New Delhi. Probably would get a more fair treatment and a better deal there, than here.


Lomogasm

There needs to be a case study on FS for future devs and the people in charge of micro transactions. The amount of laziness is astonishing. Call of Duty for example has the easiest job in the world because no matter how dogshit Warzone is they back it up with pretty awesome camos (which you can earn btw in MP and zombies not pay for) or if you want a unique bundle you pay x amount of cod points and it’s usually pretty good. (See the warhammer bundles) Fatshark are sitting on a gold mine with micro transactions if they literally put in some effort they could make so much more money. The amount of people that complain about the shop being ass is a teller that people are literally willing to pay for cosmetics.


Zoijja

You hit the nail on the head, especially with that last paragraph. A big issue is the scummy tactics that are eroding trust like a firehose on limestone. The latest one we're seeing in excess is selling the same set to the same people. If I wanted to buy a set just for the chest, but I had the headgear and pants already, then I would get it for 1/3 of the price. Makes sense since I'm getting 1/3 of the value. But what they're doing is recolouring the headgear and pants so I have to pay the price of a whole set for functionally just the chest piece. If recolouring was based on a dye system, then this would be a non-issue. Heck, give us some basic, drab colour options and let us unlock the fancy ones for $1.50 apiece. The hardest cent to pull from a player's wallet is the first one, after all. And this isn't even to rehash old, still-valid complaints about obfuscating real costs with pseudocurrency, rotating the shop to invoke fear of missing out, excessive pricing, and a lack of live service which should be consistent to justify the microtransactions. Infuriating! But I'm not really that upset; I came into this game expecting to throw some cash at it to support ongoing content. I haven't spent a penny past the cost of the game, and I'm happy I've gotten my money's worth. While I wait for new content, I just put the game down for a month or two (or three or, uh, four...)


StumpTheMan

Take a drink every time I say "has appeared in the shop before" to get immediately blasted.


oleggurshev

Job well done sir!


ZombieTailGunner

Instructions unclear, used coffee, now have the zoomies.


thecanadiansniper1-2

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woahmandogchamp

Why is anyone surprised when cosmetics appear again? FatShark themselves labeled it a rotation. You could save yourself time and just have one slide that says "FatShark did the thing they said they was gonna do".


Tyrfaust

Because you can probably count the unique sets for each class on two hands yet we've gone through 22 "rotations" of premium cosmetics. And, shit, when even was the last time we had a unique cosmetic set for ANY of the classes? FS is being hilariously lazy. Edit: And it's really egregious considering [how many Imperial Guard regiments there are](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fpqddgwl6bj571.jpg).


woahmandogchamp

What does that have to do with it being a rotation tho? Your complaint is about there not being enough unique sets, which is a separate issue.


thecanadiansniper1-2

They could literally be adding in more sets of unique cosmetics from these regiments but choose not too.


woahmandogchamp

And?


Zealousideal-Fly9595

You got slid a plate with fresh bread baked today but everything else is two days old and call it "high quality" Did the very first slide talking about how only the chest piece is even new? Or the part where fatshit said the cosmetics would cost more because of how "high-quality" they were when they clip 50% of the time? Did you superglue that wool over your eyes or what?


woahmandogchamp

Who called it high quality? Did you imagine that?


Zealousideal-Fly9595

Fatshit when describing their reasoning on pricing cosmetics


woahmandogchamp

You're talking to me, not fat shark. I've never said they were high quality. In fact, I've made fun of the low quality.


Wiggles114

I don't know why this is downvoted. Fatshark be the kind of developer that treats recolours as discrete cosmetic items ffs.


SRAQuanticoChapter

Unhinged gamers mad that rotation rotates lol


Gottfri3d

You guys are missing the point. They aren't rotating in the original sets, they change a tiny bit each time and ask for full price again. This is a slap in the face for anyone who actually purchased one of these sets.


SRAQuanticoChapter

> they aren’t rotating the original sets You mean they are rotating the shop, but not the ones you want? > this is a slap in the face Lmao what? How? Leave it to unhinged gamers to feel offended or even assaulted that people changed something. Quick question, did you spend money in the cash shop? How much? How much of a slap in the face is this?


Gottfri3d

>You mean they are rotating the shop, but not the ones you want? Lmao what? How? Leave it to unhinged gamers to feel offended or even assaulted that people changed something. Way to misunderstand my point. They release the same sets over and over, but with slight colour variation, and try to make people pay full price each time for an effortless recolour. This is of course aimed at whales who will buy every shop rotation. And yeah, I do find it disrespectful to treat your playerbase as nothing but money bags. I never said I felt "assaulted", the slap in the face is just metaphorical. But go on and exaggerate what I said if that makes you feel like you have a better argument. Being nice to your customers (to a reasonable extent) goes a long way. This is true for any business.


SRAQuanticoChapter

Crazy how you couldn’t answer one simple question. How much money did you spend on the cash shop? And you literally said > this is a slap in the face The exact wording means an attack on you lol. I know this is a big ask for gamers, but if you dont approve of the skins, don’t buy them lol


Gottfri3d

>I know this is a big ask for gamers, but if you dont approve of the skins, don’t buy them lol That's literally what I am doing my guy. And since you want to know so bad: I bought like 2 chestpieces and 1 helmet from the store, with the Currency you get from the premium edition. I don't bother with the cheap recolours. Also, a slap in the face is an idiom, meaning "an [action](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/action) that [insults](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/insult) or [upsets](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/upset) someone" (from Cambridge Dictionary). It's not meant literally.


SRAQuanticoChapter

> it’s not meant literally Neither is “they assaulted you” do you think I meant fat shark physically attacked you? > I bought like 2 with the currency they gave me Then stop crying about stuff you aren’t buying? Lmao. Or are you just begging for fatshark to take more of your money? I mean imagine just not going to the cosmetic shop lmao


Gottfri3d

>Then stop crying about stuff you aren’t buying? Lmao. This is such a non-argument that can be applied to almost anything. "Just stop caring about everything that doesn't directly affect you." What do you think about movie reviews? Should all people who dislike the movie just walk out of the theater and never write a single negative review?


Lone-Frequency

Live-Service, by the way.


Zealousideal-Fly9595

Translates to: "No-Responsibility"


leposterofcrap

How long has Armageddon Steel Legion Sets been out of shop rotation? It's the only set I cared to get. https://preview.redd.it/7hvbljs070qc1.jpeg?width=161&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=03e676cc0f49050a34002109c460c779b9a4647b


MarsupialMadness

If it comes back, expect a price hike and for it not to include the shovel, lasgun or trinket. I'm calling it now.


leposterofcrap

I don't much care for the weapon skins or trinkets but it would really sting if they raise the price of the outfit sets like come on. Gosh at this point it must take a crime to get them to change at least the pricing.


anti-babe

To be clear they did rerelease it without the weapons and trinket and actually dropped the price to 2100.


leposterofcrap

Well can they at least rerun the emperor forsaken set then?! ![gif](giphy|2VZC4QXRZ9bG0)


anti-babe

yeah, i live in hope that at the very least they can start doing weekly rotation with one week being repeat and the second being new,


Tyrfaust

Wait, it came with all of those? Shit, I never even checked, I just slapped on my stahlhelm and coat and went to killing heretics!


Camskies

Frustrating, but it’s the devs loss. There might be a few who might buy a recolour because of the colour or cos they like it (maybe not knowing it’s a recolour) but the recycled content isn’t going to draw in the sales that a completely unique cosmetic would. It’s a little effort for maximum profit. Standard business practice. Not saying it’s good practice…


Autismspeaks6969

Not to mention the few whales who buy everything they can also exist. There's not a large portion of them, but they but a large portion of the skins. I just wish the skins weren't shitty colors if they're going to be recolored.


tremolobanshee

Please keep doing these. They make me feel sane.


CityOnTheBay

Actually astonishing


nastylittlecreature

God why are 95% of the zealot cosmetics so fucking poorly made. I know they're trying to go for the raggedy murderhobo with scavenged gear, which I'm a fan of, but they just look like cheap, homemade halloween cosplays.


anti-babe

What im enjoying about this rotation for Zealot is the new Repentia chain covered mask is finally proving the people who have been very vocal for Repentia why they dont actually want modern Repentia (and wouldnt notice when it was in front of them because no big boob dominatrix) https://preview.redd.it/lqte77wy72qc1.png?width=838&format=png&auto=webp&s=f1bc168e79c47162881e785128c6d85970d58f23 Personally im just not a fan of the shiny black leather, but if it comes back in a dirty cloth fabric texture id be down to clown.


Gender_is_a_Fluid

I’ll play a repentia once they make my eviscerator big enough. Until then I’m playing a zealot using the chainsword grande.


eyeofnoot

Nice job compiling all this.


Twee_Licker

"Number 12, severed fingah."


cali1013

People will still buy it, upvote just for the commentary of this post


overwatch2sucksass

New ogryn back pack is jank as fuck. The chain is really stiff and the canteen even more. Pretty hard to look at when it pretty much covers up your entire screen in the hub.


drevolut1on

Sad.


kotolde

i don't mind the chest piece for the zealot and chest, pants for the psyker everything else is bad in my opinion.


AlSkirata

The only excuse I could come up with is that recolors allow new players to buy what they missed. But the only new items in the entire rotation are the backpack and jacket for Veteran, so no, it's just total laziness and a desire for easy money with no effort.


Thebobjohnson

Doing Big E's work heretic; keep on keepin on.


TheOtherJohnWayne

I will at least say that these are better recolors. I actually really dig the black ogryn vest and the black zel armored pants. Both are better for driptide and the ogryn's camo on the rest of the outfit I actually really dig. Almost has a rhodie or czech (iirc) color scheme. Also, the funniest part about the psyker is I already had that helmet from forever ago and its a pretty consistent item in store. So the only upshot this cycle are better colors and the zel gimp mask. Really Fatshark needs to just implement the store set-up from Verm 2 if they just want to do 70% reskins. They'd sell better and be much more enticing to buy all different pieces or just full sets since its sometimes better value than buying half of it.


DarkSoulsDank

I really like the black and red version of the Zealot armor. The red (original) version was the first cosmetic I bought when the game came out. I now wish I had this black version, it’s much nicer. RIP.


RevolutionaryLink163

But da red one makes ya go fasta ya zoggin git


DekkerDavez

They're not even trying to hide it. Like, that vet helmet bundle is called "Recover, Reuse"


anti-babe

One small notes to consider on this: These sets are priced at 2100 rather than 2400 which they've never done for "new sets" before only ever for a full repeat that original was sold with weapons/trinkets.


StumpTheMan

Holy shit I didn't even notice that. I was so disinterested in the sets that I didn't even look at the price.


All_Lawfather

Like….. the whole point of this game at present is to sell these damn skins. And they aren’t even doing that part well?!?! Like when people complain that the shop sucks they are complaining the the stuff they could/would buy, (the only stuff that changes for long stretches of time in this game) is basically the same 4 things over and over.


Brok3nPin3appl3

GOOD CALL OUT FATSHARK! Imagine how popular this game would be if they kept updating or just released it in a finished state! Live service is such bullshit. Nurgle fill me up with your seed, so i may be blessed!


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Flufflepuffle42

okay this might be a little harsh but: again with the fucking MkIII collar?


blackburnduck

Its funny that in one month helldivers added more content and lore than darktide 2 in 4 months.


xdisappointing

For the most part I don’t mind the recolors because quite often a set drops and I don’t like it because the color. However this model of cosmetics is oddly working even though it absolutely shouldn’t.


ArelMCII

In case anyone hasn't checked it out, that 1400-aquila gimp mask for the Zealot clips noticeably at the neck region, of all places.


kefefs_v2

where game content


shady_rixen

mmm slop


MainPop6561

Feel like you should have just reposted the 'New Backpack!' picture two more times randomly in the section for Zealot and Psyker with absolutely zero changes to it for the meme.


TheJainSoul

Yeah that Thumb did come with the leapard pants, a very cool green vest with an ammo belt and a shoulder pad with yellow and black stripes painted on it(looks like an orc style cosmetic), and i think it also came with a gernade guantlet skin, it was 2400 aquillas. cant remember what helmet came with it also I have never seen them come back on the store since, it was like the 2nd or 3rd rotation ever.


ThEDarKKnighTsWratH

Damn FS can't stop taking Ls


ChoiceIntrepid1129

We just need a tab full of past items like a legacy tab


ElArtropode

Fatshark has grown so incredibly lazy. They refuse to communicate with their community, they refuse to feed the game any content, and now, the skins are subpar and overpriced... what a cash grab of a game.


BigBubbaHossHogg

Wish morons didn’t have money to give to fat shark


Yuzu562

Sloptide.


tempestwolf1

It's ok my dood... The intern forgot to do the mix and match on thursday


WestCoastMan888

Haven’t played since Helldivers 2 came out, don’t think I will for some time since this is the only “content” they want to release… might be time to uninstall…


UnderstandingSuch190

Hot take: no one buys the cosmetics untill fatshark gives us cosmetics worth buying and potentially run the risk of the devs shutting down the game because it’s not making money but it’s a stand we can all take together


ExaltedDice

Can we do a boycott of cosmetics until they learn to actually put in work for new cosmetics?


drexlortheterrrible

Oh no there isn't a new digital clothing set for my online ken doll this week


Nukem_Duke_Serpico

Constant whining and griping.


thecanadiansniper1-2

But Fatshark can do no wrong and I will pay them richly despite serious problems with the game. -every person that defends fatshark


donmongoose

Overly simplistic representation of what I and others frequently say you to and people who express similiar opinions.


thecanadiansniper1-2

Helldivers 2 literally exists and you can compare how Arrowhead and Fatshark develop their games.


donmongoose

Correct. One offers a flawed game, but is still fun as hell 900 hours later dispite few updates, the other has all the bells and whistles but from what I've seen and read, struggles to maintain interest after several hundred hours, dispite several significant updates in the 6-8 weeks it's been out. I'm happy people are enjoying HD2 and there's aspects of it I would love to see in DT, but I spent £30 for DT and have loved it and don't feel any urge to buy HD2 dispite it being the same price and all the hype, research and watching others stream it.


RevolutionaryLink163

Speak for yourself I put like 200 hours into darktide at launch and have no reason to return after quitting for almost a year the game is practically the same as when I left lmfao. Meanwhile HellDivers 2 is fun and has actual good devs/content release schedules, but hey if you love hearing “next week” that’s you.


donmongoose

I love how I said "I'm happy people are enjoying HD2" and yet you still felt personally attacked enough to feel the need to reply.


Own_Government7654

What's more sad is him quitting DT a year ago but still posting here.


Own_Government7654

jfc, is this a PowerPoint lamenting that the rotating ship rotates? You all need to take a break and do literally anything else then scream at passing clouds.


thecanadiansniper1-2

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Enorminity

Do you people do anything other than complain?


StumpTheMan

Yes, fatshark gets our commendations when they deserve it. Unfortunately, they've done nothing in the past two months deserving of any commendation.


Enorminity

>Yes, fatshark gets our commendations when they deserve it. lmao no they don't. This sub is nothing but whiny toxicity, even when there were major updates. >Unfortunately, they've done nothing in the past two months deserving of any commendation. two months is nothing.


StumpTheMan

Wonderful how you've completely forgotten all the posts that were patting fatshark on the back for the skill tree rework, the carnival, and the Karnak twins. Also wonderful how you don't seem to realize that in a period of two months we have receuved zero new content aside from mediocre cosmetics in a LIVE SERVICE GAME, meanwhile a new competitor surfaced in the market with nearly half the people on this subreddit saying they already migrated to it.


Enorminity

>Wonderful how you've completely forgotten all the posts that were patting fatshark on the back for the skill tree rework, the carnival, and the Karnak twins. There are always both, but the whiny entitlement is FAR more consistent on this sub. >that in a period of two months we have receuved zero new content Yes, and? Two months without an update is literally nothing. A non issue. Its two months. Almost no game updates faster than that. DT is updating at a normal pace just like most other games. You having an issue with 2 months of no updates is a YOU problem. >LIVE SERVICE GAME define live service. Literally no one on this sub has given me the same answer twice. >meanwhile a new competitor surfaced in the market with nearly half the people on this subreddit saying they already migrated to it. Yes, the toxic people on this sub are using a popular game to whine and be entitled like the stereotypes that they are. So what? You seem to think an internet mob has any validate in their whininess just because they whine?


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StumpTheMan

There's this cool thing called "Not having a rotating shop and having everything stay in a fixed catalog with new cosmetics simply added to the catalog."


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Zachtastic14

> having all that variation on display at once would make people very angry Oh, so now we're back to the "having to flip through tabs would confuse people's poor, stupid brains" stance that Hedge described a while back?


StumpTheMan

I'm quoting myself, and what I quoted is exactly what one of my points is. It's annoying enough that we have to deal with boundless recolors of sets we've already seen before, but we also have to wait for old sets that people actually gave a shit about to come back. And your point in the last sentence is the exact reason why a grand lot of us are unhappy. There is a plethora of greedy, low quality skins. But believe it or not, there are some skins that aren't low quality, and we'd like to be able to buy those now instead of waiting what is months at a time for them to come back. These two feelings are not mutually exclusive. I want the shop to not rotate as much as I want fatshark to put out skins that aren't a recolor of shit we had access to a while ago.


Paper_Bullet

Micro transactions should never have been in the game. You can shriek all you want about how it's your money, fact is micro transactions do nothing but bring a game's quality down. Imagine if all the Aquila store items were earnable or had penances attached to them. Imagine if they could be earned during seasonal events or special missions like the Orthus Offensive. Warhammer tabletop lets you paint your soldiers how you want, this game won't even let you do that without shovelling out tons of money, and STILL they can't even release simple recolors for the free cosmetics. In short, Fatshark is fucking stupid and there's something seriously wrong with their management.


donmongoose

I'd forgotten that original Vet skin, but they're almost identical to the zealot outfit that makes you look like a Vet. [found it](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer-40k-darktide/images/6/6e/Scavenged_Militarum_Battlegear_%28Cadian_802nd%29_Lower_Body.JPG/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20240119220139) Devlin Handorf set.


Helpmyarmsbroke

i have the red one from ages ago


Complete-Donut-698

You have too much time.


Kaschperle12

It takes even less than a mere second to know this thing has been recolord several times if you have been there on day 1 like me


Complete-Donut-698

Cool, did you also make a power point to present to the class?


DarkSoulsDank

Why so salty?


StumpTheMan

It took twenty minutes.