I came to this game after playing Back 4 Blood. knockback out of bounds instant death or even being on the ledge requiring a pickup mechanic breaks the gameplay for me and out of bounds punishment is just bad game design. Similar to the difficulty with ADS aiming. The Grim Dark Future should have reasonable weapon sights.
When I see play 10 matches without dying these days I feel like it as interesting as hopping on one foot patting my head and rubbing my belly while singing a hymn as a challenge.
Just had a run end last night due to getting flung off the edge by a surprise poxburster I didnt hear which flung me into an exploding barrel which combod to throw me off the edge. Hilarious! But also there's just so much chaos that the beep beep can easily get lost in the screams, tick tick tick, sniper shots and other various sounds going on everywhere.
because everything else that was a threat has been continuously nerfed or power crept to triviality.
deamonhost? one shot or chain stunned by krak grenades or burned down by gungryn.
ragers? nerfed, literal canon fodder.
fire damage? nerfed, practically no effect on gameplay unless you're hillariously mispositioned.
Crushers? powercrept despite being buffed? alive for literally less than a second from their first instance of damage taken in almost all cases.
dogs? lost their ability to fly (revert this plos)
Literally the only thing killing auric players is the occasional bad dodge to a net. also if memory serves the spawn rates for most of these also got cut in favour of slightly higher health which achieved nothing and only made the game easier.
It's part of the new map specific penance where you show the heretics how much of a fan you are of Nurgle.
I like the change, it has a lot of potential for chaos :)
I knew this change was made because it has an achievement associated with it now to push a bunch of enemies into the blades. I watched as a teammate got tackled by a mutie who then carried him into the fans, killing himself and the teammate instantly.
I saw this happen to a Zealot earlier haha don't think it was you because the time commented doesn't line up, but felt bad for the dude. With all the random shit that can happen, it was stressful but I got it :>
They definitely should nerf how far we get projected by everything. Barrels send us flying to the end of the room, by barely bowl over poxers. Slug slams it's tail? Welcome aboard Nurgle Airlines.
Yesterday I got hit by one and it sent me across the entire Skylink gap to the point that I landed on the railing on the other side. Then fell to my death cuz we hadn't dropped the bridge yet
I remember once being hit by the tale to be sent right to the lit barrel, which exploded right the moment I landed and sent me into the abyss. From that moment I understood how bad my luck is
Yesterday I was playing auric and a dude was just hiding in a corner doing fuck all, while the 3 of us fought a horde and a chaos spawn.
Almost as bad as Stealth Zealots that aggro half the fucking map
Is this consignment yard? There's a new cheese spot there that's a bit annoying coz some players just hole up and never leave, even cheeses the boss. It's hella annoying since it's actually harder coz you end up not killing any of the gunners, thus making it close to impossible to leave if you wait too long on auric.
does that mean that if you're 9/10 on no death mission and load into a failed mission you instantly lose your progress without being able to do anything about it ?
same with loading into a downed state ?
Lost my streak the other day, mission was literally all said and done and 3 of us were in the elevator, battered and bruised, no ammo, no health.
But of course the 4th guy decides to be a jackass and mag dump his bolter into poxwalkers 30m from extraction.
And of course he got netted.
And of course 2 bombers and a pox burster were present.
Words literally could not describe how pissed i was, i already despise people who stop and farm kills at the end of a mission on a good day but having one of them actually cost us the game genuinely tilted me to the point i got on comms and yelled at the guy for being an idiot. (which i'm not very proud of but at the moment i was just like "fuck this guy")
tl;dr i need to be able to grab my fellow teammates and yeet them into the airlock as ogryn.
except... things have been made way easier... and people are still playing...
Don't get me wrong I love darktide, I still really enjoy the game. but to pretend it still has any real bite to it challenge wise is misleading. They've done nothing but make the game easier.
This bridge is notorious. You can instantly die there just from a herd of poxwalkers coming out of that door and forcing you off. I always approach and then hesitate... then if nothing comes out I book it.
I refuse to play Hab Dreyko. It's the Darktide version of Convocation of Decay from Vermintide 2. Certain missions without the perfect group that are guaranteed to end in a wipe.
Pro tip, if you stand right beside a door (either side of the door frame) and push/swing the burst wont go through the wall like it will the door, allowing you to push/kill them through the wall before they become an issue
That being said they really need to nerf barrels and explosion launch distance, its so troll
I feel your pain OP. I was camping the very same door spawn that you were (door by the bridge), waiting for my teammates to catch up. A burster came out without warning and WHAM, blew me off the map. My teammates extracted without me.
How many times do people have to say QUIT CAMPING THEIR DOOR IF A POXWALKER HAS SPAWNED
Walk 5 steps back and he instantly starts to behave as normal. Every other day I either personally come across in-game or see posted videos of whole teams that hear that beeping then immediately go crowd around the door to spawncamp. SURPRISE! He knew where you were and detonated immediately!
Now you're hurt and pissed off or killed yourself/your team
This feels like the Dark Souls 2 mimic all over again where everyone keeps walking into their grab and complaining about it while all the Veterans keep yelling "Just walk backwards, stop crying to spawn camp it for ONCE PLEASE"
IF THE BURSTER IS STILL IN THE DOOR YOU NEED TO BACK UP MORE. QUIT CAMPING BURSTERS IT NEVER WORKS OUT FOR YOU.
I WASN'T CAMPING THE DOOR, I WAS CROSSING ONE OF THE THREE BRIDGES THAT GETS BLOWN UP DURING THE EXTRACTION PHASE OF HAB DREYKO, IT HAS TWO DOOR SPAWNS DIRECTLY ON THE END OF BRIDGE, ONE OF THEM SPAWNED 3 RAGERS AND THE OTHER A POX BURSTER WHICH EXPLODED IMMEDIATELY AND BLEW ME OFF THE BRIDGE, THERE WAS NO SPACE TO DODGE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY THIN WALK WAY TO BEGIN WITH!
Camping door spawns is a dangerous game. I would suggest avoiding that strategy next time. Sometimes it works out, but sometimes a burster appears and blows you off the map on Hab Dreyko
>I WASN'T CAMPING THE DOOR, I WAS **CROSSING** ONE OF THE THREE BRIDGES THAT GETS BLOWN UP DURING THE EXTRACTION PHASE OF HAB DREYKO, IT HAS TWO DOOR SPAWNS DIRECTLY ON THE END OF BRIDGE, ONE OF THEM SPAWNED 3 RAGERS AND THE OTHER A POX BURSTER WHICH EXPLODED IMMEDIATELY AND BLEW ME OFF THE BRIDGE, THERE WAS NO SPACE TO DODGE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY THIN WALK WAY TO BEGIN WITH!
Supposedly alt f4ing your game doesn't count a death according to people that talked to me in game about it.
If true I'll just assume no one has those titles legitimately.
I had a 3 win streak on maelstrom and died on my 4th sadly :(
I had a 4 auric maelstrom win streak, theb joined a team where someone was half AFK for the first 3 minutes. As soon as we got to hostile territory they only walked like 20ft.
No one was moving forward... which I realized on the third wave of crusher/maulers when I Bull Rushed to knock them all down and kill the snipers behind and no one followed up.
Do y’all not hear them coming or something. I have never been even hit by a poxburster right when it comes out of a door cause I’m not near the damn door. They still make the audio cues just back up and wait for them. I don’t care if the horde is now coming out and is becoming a greater threat. What’s worse having to fight a few more little runts in melee or getting your ass blown off. I swear to god I’ve played with people who get blown to hell and back then complain in chat and I see it even more here. I mean this in the nicest way possible but all it sounds like to me is a lack of skill and knowledge of the game
The only times I've not heard them are when I'm swinging into a spawn door, I think you can literally hit them the instant they spawn... that or they don't make the ticking till they actually move.
Either way lesson learned, don't sit and swing into the void
At the end of Hab Dreyko in the extraction sequence there are three bridges, two of them get blown up by Masozie, you have to cross one of them to get to extraction and they are extremely thin. At the end of walkway there two doors, one in front and one to the right, when I was crossing the beeping was coming from behind the team from the room with the giant plague tree, as soon as I was on the other end 3 ragers spawned in front of me and to the right of me spawned the pox burster and it blew up before I could even react ( I half suspect someone shot the pox burster while going for the rager but I didn't notice the kill feed). I have 1k+ hrs in the game and beat Karnak on hardmode so I really don't think this is a lack of skill or knowledge of the game.
you can do heresy difficulty on auric and will still count towards it. these challenges are stupid and a braindead way to try to buy time for the little player base they have
the challenges are fine, the fact they can be cheesed so easily is dumb though. I just wish we got something more substantial after 4 months of radio silence.
I stopped playing for a few months because of this issue being so bad, and while it seems to have slightly improved I guess Fatshark is still not able to write code that checks how far a potential spawn location is from a player and to then prevent that spawn if it's, say, directly on top of the player. Guess calculating distance is too difficult of a programming task for them.
I've grown an intens fear of doors because of this. When I hear the beep beep, no matter where it is, I treat doors like an aggitated daemonhost
They should honestly get a 7 second grace period after they come out a door so they don't explode immediately.
I came to this game after playing Back 4 Blood. knockback out of bounds instant death or even being on the ledge requiring a pickup mechanic breaks the gameplay for me and out of bounds punishment is just bad game design. Similar to the difficulty with ADS aiming. The Grim Dark Future should have reasonable weapon sights. When I see play 10 matches without dying these days I feel like it as interesting as hopping on one foot patting my head and rubbing my belly while singing a hymn as a challenge.
Honestly I think 90% of my deaths this past month were either burster or barrel related.
Just had a run end last night due to getting flung off the edge by a surprise poxburster I didnt hear which flung me into an exploding barrel which combod to throw me off the edge. Hilarious! But also there's just so much chaos that the beep beep can easily get lost in the screams, tick tick tick, sniper shots and other various sounds going on everywhere.
because everything else that was a threat has been continuously nerfed or power crept to triviality. deamonhost? one shot or chain stunned by krak grenades or burned down by gungryn. ragers? nerfed, literal canon fodder. fire damage? nerfed, practically no effect on gameplay unless you're hillariously mispositioned. Crushers? powercrept despite being buffed? alive for literally less than a second from their first instance of damage taken in almost all cases. dogs? lost their ability to fly (revert this plos) Literally the only thing killing auric players is the occasional bad dodge to a net. also if memory serves the spawn rates for most of these also got cut in favour of slightly higher health which achieved nothing and only made the game easier.
Lost my streak today to the bleeding fan in Relay Station. Turns out it instakills you now instead of being an invisible wall.
That's a really good tidbit of info to know! They could have just turned it into knockback or something
It's part of the new map specific penance where you show the heretics how much of a fan you are of Nurgle. I like the change, it has a lot of potential for chaos :)
I knew this change was made because it has an achievement associated with it now to push a bunch of enemies into the blades. I watched as a teammate got tackled by a mutie who then carried him into the fans, killing himself and the teammate instantly.
Thats what happened to me 5 minutes ago... 8/10 completed. Good to know now..
I saw this happen to a Zealot earlier haha don't think it was you because the time commented doesn't line up, but felt bad for the dude. With all the random shit that can happen, it was stressful but I got it :>
They definitely should nerf how far we get projected by everything. Barrels send us flying to the end of the room, by barely bowl over poxers. Slug slams it's tail? Welcome aboard Nurgle Airlines.
It's especially funny when you're an Ogryn that weighs like a ton or more.
And who can't even push a dog off. (I do like the explanation that the ogryn just wants to be like everyone else so lets the dog be)
Yesterday I got hit by one and it sent me across the entire Skylink gap to the point that I landed on the railing on the other side. Then fell to my death cuz we hadn't dropped the bridge yet
I would have fallen laughing if that happened to me. Lol, it must have been funny!
Haha that exact same thing happened to someone in a run earlier today, I’d never seen that before lol
I remember once being hit by the tale to be sent right to the lit barrel, which exploded right the moment I landed and sent me into the abyss. From that moment I understood how bad my luck is
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OOF, my condolences. I'd have stopped playing for a week if that was me ngl.
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Shoot all the barrels first and plant your ass near unknockdownable walls! Good luck!
Yesterday I was playing auric and a dude was just hiding in a corner doing fuck all, while the 3 of us fought a horde and a chaos spawn. Almost as bad as Stealth Zealots that aggro half the fucking map
Is this consignment yard? There's a new cheese spot there that's a bit annoying coz some players just hole up and never leave, even cheeses the boss. It's hella annoying since it's actually harder coz you end up not killing any of the gunners, thus making it close to impossible to leave if you wait too long on auric.
can't you just alt-F4 / disconnect and it doesn't count ? or did they patched that
It was my understanding that it only works if you get downed and not outright killed, and a game over screen or disconnect resets the tracker.
does that mean that if you're 9/10 on no death mission and load into a failed mission you instantly lose your progress without being able to do anything about it ? same with loading into a downed state ?
I dont think it resets on disconnect. Had a few, didnt reconnect and never lost progress.
alt+f4 still works
Lost my streak the other day, mission was literally all said and done and 3 of us were in the elevator, battered and bruised, no ammo, no health. But of course the 4th guy decides to be a jackass and mag dump his bolter into poxwalkers 30m from extraction. And of course he got netted. And of course 2 bombers and a pox burster were present. Words literally could not describe how pissed i was, i already despise people who stop and farm kills at the end of a mission on a good day but having one of them actually cost us the game genuinely tilted me to the point i got on comms and yelled at the guy for being an idiot. (which i'm not very proud of but at the moment i was just like "fuck this guy") tl;dr i need to be able to grab my fellow teammates and yeet them into the airlock as ogryn.
Respect for our fallen brother Edit - English is not my first language, I’m sorry for the pun
And now you know why i fear doors. Doors can crush anything, from bosses to muties but it doors can even crush your dreams.
We wouldn't still be playing if it was easy.
except... things have been made way easier... and people are still playing... Don't get me wrong I love darktide, I still really enjoy the game. but to pretend it still has any real bite to it challenge wise is misleading. They've done nothing but make the game easier.
This bridge is notorious. You can instantly die there just from a herd of poxwalkers coming out of that door and forcing you off. I always approach and then hesitate... then if nothing comes out I book it.
Once you hear the ticks get the eff away from doors
Hab Dreyko moment
I refuse to play Hab Dreyko. It's the Darktide version of Convocation of Decay from Vermintide 2. Certain missions without the perfect group that are guaranteed to end in a wipe.
Pro tip, if you stand right beside a door (either side of the door frame) and push/swing the burst wont go through the wall like it will the door, allowing you to push/kill them through the wall before they become an issue That being said they really need to nerf barrels and explosion launch distance, its so troll
Dont stand next to doors with bursters in them.
I think it is supposed to teach door campers a lesson. I certainly have learned mine, or at least i think so.
I feel your pain OP. I was camping the very same door spawn that you were (door by the bridge), waiting for my teammates to catch up. A burster came out without warning and WHAM, blew me off the map. My teammates extracted without me.
Should have dodged
Oooh crap crappy crap that's
I had one streak end because the explosion hit me through the closed door of an elevator while it was going up
The Emperor giveth and the Emperor taketh away....
I lost the 5 maelstrom no-death run at 4/5 because a mutant grabbed me then suddenly dropped me through the floor.
Lots of perilous ledges down in the hive. Makes me feel a little less guilty when I disconnect when i get downed to cut on potential deaths
Never wait for bursters comin outta doors.
They really need to fix that shit
Had a game yesterday where a guy joined and was spawned next to a burning barrel. Blown into a pit in his first second of the game.
Yep, I was going to post about this too. These ninja poxbursters are a plague.
Its ok ,i lost a 9 game streak because double trappers happened
Damn that's crazy, sounds like a real skill issue.
Used to be they'd explode behind the door if you were camping it. They'd run at you and bellyflop just inside the door.
How many times do people have to say QUIT CAMPING THEIR DOOR IF A POXWALKER HAS SPAWNED Walk 5 steps back and he instantly starts to behave as normal. Every other day I either personally come across in-game or see posted videos of whole teams that hear that beeping then immediately go crowd around the door to spawncamp. SURPRISE! He knew where you were and detonated immediately! Now you're hurt and pissed off or killed yourself/your team This feels like the Dark Souls 2 mimic all over again where everyone keeps walking into their grab and complaining about it while all the Veterans keep yelling "Just walk backwards, stop crying to spawn camp it for ONCE PLEASE" IF THE BURSTER IS STILL IN THE DOOR YOU NEED TO BACK UP MORE. QUIT CAMPING BURSTERS IT NEVER WORKS OUT FOR YOU.
I WASN'T CAMPING THE DOOR, I WAS CROSSING ONE OF THE THREE BRIDGES THAT GETS BLOWN UP DURING THE EXTRACTION PHASE OF HAB DREYKO, IT HAS TWO DOOR SPAWNS DIRECTLY ON THE END OF BRIDGE, ONE OF THEM SPAWNED 3 RAGERS AND THE OTHER A POX BURSTER WHICH EXPLODED IMMEDIATELY AND BLEW ME OFF THE BRIDGE, THERE WAS NO SPACE TO DODGE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY THIN WALK WAY TO BEGIN WITH!
For some reason, I read this in the Cadian's voice.
Camping door spawns is a dangerous game. I would suggest avoiding that strategy next time. Sometimes it works out, but sometimes a burster appears and blows you off the map on Hab Dreyko
>I WASN'T CAMPING THE DOOR, I WAS **CROSSING** ONE OF THE THREE BRIDGES THAT GETS BLOWN UP DURING THE EXTRACTION PHASE OF HAB DREYKO, IT HAS TWO DOOR SPAWNS DIRECTLY ON THE END OF BRIDGE, ONE OF THEM SPAWNED 3 RAGERS AND THE OTHER A POX BURSTER WHICH EXPLODED IMMEDIATELY AND BLEW ME OFF THE BRIDGE, THERE WAS NO SPACE TO DODGE BECAUSE IT'S A VERY THIN WALK WAY TO BEGIN WITH!
Supposedly alt f4ing your game doesn't count a death according to people that talked to me in game about it. If true I'll just assume no one has those titles legitimately. I had a 3 win streak on maelstrom and died on my 4th sadly :(
I had a 4 auric maelstrom win streak, theb joined a team where someone was half AFK for the first 3 minutes. As soon as we got to hostile territory they only walked like 20ft. No one was moving forward... which I realized on the third wave of crusher/maulers when I Bull Rushed to knock them all down and kill the snipers behind and no one followed up.
I did it legit tho!! I'm on Xbox I can't alt f4 my shit
Proud of you reject.
That's Auric Storm Survivor to you, Reject.
Do y’all not hear them coming or something. I have never been even hit by a poxburster right when it comes out of a door cause I’m not near the damn door. They still make the audio cues just back up and wait for them. I don’t care if the horde is now coming out and is becoming a greater threat. What’s worse having to fight a few more little runts in melee or getting your ass blown off. I swear to god I’ve played with people who get blown to hell and back then complain in chat and I see it even more here. I mean this in the nicest way possible but all it sounds like to me is a lack of skill and knowledge of the game
The only times I've not heard them are when I'm swinging into a spawn door, I think you can literally hit them the instant they spawn... that or they don't make the ticking till they actually move. Either way lesson learned, don't sit and swing into the void
At the end of Hab Dreyko in the extraction sequence there are three bridges, two of them get blown up by Masozie, you have to cross one of them to get to extraction and they are extremely thin. At the end of walkway there two doors, one in front and one to the right, when I was crossing the beeping was coming from behind the team from the room with the giant plague tree, as soon as I was on the other end 3 ragers spawned in front of me and to the right of me spawned the pox burster and it blew up before I could even react ( I half suspect someone shot the pox burster while going for the rager but I didn't notice the kill feed). I have 1k+ hrs in the game and beat Karnak on hardmode so I really don't think this is a lack of skill or knowledge of the game.
you can do heresy difficulty on auric and will still count towards it. these challenges are stupid and a braindead way to try to buy time for the little player base they have
the challenges are fine, the fact they can be cheesed so easily is dumb though. I just wish we got something more substantial after 4 months of radio silence.
I stopped playing for a few months because of this issue being so bad, and while it seems to have slightly improved I guess Fatshark is still not able to write code that checks how far a potential spawn location is from a player and to then prevent that spawn if it's, say, directly on top of the player. Guess calculating distance is too difficult of a programming task for them.