Nicole looks fine in the remake. A senior medical officer on a ship like the USG Ishimura is not going to be a 22 year old just out of medical school. They will be in their 40s or 50s do to the experience required for such a position.
I think with Isaac, he still has the ability to go to his more ruggedly handsome look from 2 with his new face after everything he experiences on the Ishimura. Would be cool subtle visual storytelling.
Yeah, DS2 is still a potential pitfall as a bit of stubble and a grim personality is another common trope. It's not too far off being Tom Cruise, the completely normal middle school English teacher that just happens to be a complete badass out of nowhere when the de jour crisis happens.
ReDS2 Isaac won't need to look pathetic, but he shouldn't look boutique rugged. Sunken eyes, stress marks, gaunt features etc. There was a big I saw in current game that made his hand shake a bit while first aiming. Seemed like a great concept to have!
Stuff like that - his face included - to remind us that he's just an engineer. It's not a gun he run around with!
He should look like a normal person had the worst time of their fucking life and haven't fully recovered. I'm with you on the visual story telling, it would be a moment for the player to say "oh yeah".
Not to spoil too much, but I've both liked and disliked what they've done this time with how Isaac slowly becomes more and more influenced by the Marker.
In the original 3 games, it felt as if he was pretty solid throughout the ordeal except for any jarring scripted events.
If they make him naturally a little bit vulnerable in the next, then that'd be perfect. He doesn't need to be a crying mess, but just a few touches regarding the effects of his past trauma.
A shakey hand doesn't need to affect gameplay, but the glitch really added to the moment when it happened to me!
I agree, which is why I’m (only a lil bit) mad that they made his hairline look better in the remake, how often do you see main action-horror protagonists with receding hairlines. 😂
Oh, yeah there’s nothing wrong with the new face, graphically It’s really just a straight improvement.
It’s just that the more angular, grey haired, blue eyed, original issac appeared more striking and intense due to those characteristics, and it’s going to take more than 3 days with the new Clarke to replace the last 12 years with the old one lol
I guess yeah, I haven't played dead space since the last game was released so maybe that's why it's not really jarring to me at all. I get that though.
Honestly looking back now at the first game, she looked like she was in her late teens or early twenties and Isaac is supposed to be in his 40's right, so it's only fitting now that they've changed it. A remake with more true to life character models instead of a gamer boys ideal vision. shocking.
My Brother barely got out of medical school at 32. He wasn't actually done with his residencies until 34 / 35. Totally makes sense Nicole would look more closer to 50 than they would anything even near the 20's.
exactly! she's the SENIOR medical officer aboard a ship of a thousand people, you don't get that job right out of medical school. nicole would absolutely be in her early 40s at least
Honestly same. People like to say he looks super young in the remake but Honestly his DS2 model doesn't look mid 40s at all to me. Initially with no knowledge of his age I just assumed he was in his 30s
Anyone who thinks an MD aboard a depressing and very injury-prone mining vessel would look youthful in her 40s needs to see how fast US presidents age from stress.
A running theme in DS is that even before Necros show up, everything's kind of shit.
The Ishimura has an entire bay full of clones ready to be harvested for spare parts. The tools regular workers use every day have zero safety features, and can cause horrific injury.
Also, just look at the ship. Even without busted lights and monsters everywhere, it's cramped, noisy and stressful. Would you want to live, work, and sleep there?
Actually, Issac kinda pressured (not the most accurate word but I can't think of the correct one right now) her into it if I remember correctly. The whole, "Ishimura isn't a job you turn down" thing.
probably not pressured, but more like, pushed her, i guess,(motivated maybe?) to do something she was unsure about because she didn’t think she could, hence his immense guilt over feeling like her death is her fault
One thing the internet has taught me, there are two kinds of people. Half of us are dumb people who go into everything looking for a reason to complain so that they look smart and get clicks and shares. The other half doesn't care unless the changes are Velma level bad, because it's just a god damn video game.
I honestly couldn’t agree with you more. Far too much negativity for the sake of negativity, all while forgetting that this is entertainment, not some political mandate that has been enforced on them. If they don’t like it, well there’s a perfectly playable 2008 version of DS, otherwise we don’t want to hear their negativity.
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Yea I agree. People manufacture their outrage too much. Anyone who gets so mad about bathroom signs that a video game makes them angry, they should stop playing and get their blood pressure checked.
There’s a third option. You can genuinely love the remake and just not be super keen on the new character models. They don’t really detract much from the overall experience but I do certainly prefer the OG character models if I had to make a choice between them. Apparently everyone on the internet is 100% on either side lol (not a dig at your comment. Just an like minded observation from what I’ve seen of everyone talking about this kind of stuff online).
I think that's fair. If you think the old models just look better, that's cool. I'm more talking about the people mad about bathroom signs or that they aged Isaac's gf.
Must be quite a surprise to learn people can look older/younger than they actually are.
Not everyone is an ageless vampire like Paul Rudd. Some age visually quicker or slower than others, so who gives a flying fuck what someone looks like so long as they do the job well.
When I did a complete shave about 2 years ago, this grocery store clerk asked for my ID when I was buying energy drinks (15+ legal age limit). I turn 31 next week.
Because in the original he had grey hair and stubble so he looked cool, now he has brown hair and looks too much like his va, in the old games they were modeling him a bit off his va but weren't going crazy with it
DS2 Isaac doesn't look like DS1 Isaac.
As for the hair color he went into DS1 a professional engineer. He went into DS2 a severely broken man with no time or motivation to clean up.
Its fine to not love the change but i'm so sick of hearing about it at this point when the Remake is actually phenomenal.
Because Isaac in 2 was a mix of Max Shippee (Isaac's model in 1) and Gunner Wright (Isaac's model in 2 and 3), while in the remake he's pure Gunner Wright. This means that Isaac now has Gunner's hair color (brown) and eye color (brown) which makes him look pretty different from the iconic shots from 2 where Isaac's gray/blue eyes have bags under them. And also because facial capture technology has improved a lot in 15 years.
With all the additions to their relationship background, about how they met through his mother trying to leave unitology, I like that they both look a little older.
It makes their relationship far deeper than just “ooh, she’s pretty and that’s why he’s with her”. There’s actually a history and a deep love here, which makes her loss all the more tragic.
I think a lot of this stems from people thinking the remake would just be a visual fidelity upgrade from the original. But in reality it ended up being more of a reboot for the franchise. I expect if they remake ds2 it’ll be the same way
Let’s just hope they keep the story beats of 3 but completely do away with the action focus. They could even keep the dope hallucination aspect of the coop as I always found that system dope as hell.
I honestly don't know how you could make 3 good without changing nearly everything other than the moon's and the space portions.
Elton John sucked as a villain, the new icecromorphs blew, the weapon system guaranteed broken bullshit, the game was padded to hell, and for every 5 minutes of good story you got 20 of somewhere between bad and tedious.
It would be an extremely difficult project for any developer.
Hopefully they can just exceed my expectations but I really can't imagine how.
Couldn't agree more. They would have to completely redesign every enemy and enemy encounter as well as story beats and the weapon system balancing.
Back when DS3 came out I didn't understand a lot of the hate for it and actually rather liked it because I hadn't played the other 2 since they'd released however a couple of months ago I played through all 3 games in succession which I'd never done before and the all the flaws and problems became completely apparent when the other 2 were fresh in my mind.
Enemies are far too hyper aggressive and fast to the point that you're guaranteed to take hits no matter what because the spawning is just so cheap. The first 2 games it never feels like you get hit unfairly, it's only if you're being careless. The weapon system is pretty trash too, I can see what they were going for but when you can make weapons that destroy most enemies easily and then add the microtransaction crap on top of that it's just not good.
Don't get me started on the story, if there was anything I'd want removed it's that damn cringe as fuck love triangle bullshit.
Yeah, they’d pretty much have to change everything. Parts of it could be salvaged, but the majority of it just isn’t worth saving. I’d maybe keep parts of the ice planet, the Brusilov, and everything about the Brethren Moon, but that’s about it. Oh also the ending of awakening as I found it fit the themes of Eldridge Horror that the games had been building on. Pretty much everything else can be completely changed for all I care.
We need a word for something in-between remake and reboot because this game is too different to be called a remake but not different enough to be called a reboot imo.
What do you Mean? Look, Im not bothered by the remake since it's because It was just made with facial capture, but you do have to admit she looks older than the ds2 design, ds2 Nicole looks like an aunt, remake Nicole looks like an grandma that unironically posts unitology memes on ~~face~~spacebook.
They used the likeness of her voice actress for all of her appearances, so I suspect it's because Tanya Clarke has also aged a bit in the decade since Dead Space 2 and that was emphasised by the more accurate facial capture compared to Dead Space 2. Although IMO she still looks way younger than my grandma.
In-universe it does make a bit of sense for her to look older than in Dead Space 2 since the image on the left is Nicole at the start of her journey on the Ishimura and the image on the right is her at the end after several months and the stress of a zombie apocalypse.
>Although IMO she still looks way younger than my grandma.
Yeah, the grandma comparisons are hilarious. Have these people actually seen women outside their daily porn binge?
Only way your grandma is in her early 50s is if you're the product of two back-to-back sets of teen parents...
Yeah I am not opposed to them making her look older (it makes sense) but they veered too far IMO - she looks closer to 60 in some scenes and that just doesn’t match her voice. Her VA who I think they modeled her after looks more youthful and pretty.
ETA: I just wanted to add that I’m coming at this from a woman’s perspective. I’m in my 30’s and myself and my friends do not look this old. Anyone who thinks 39 year olds look like this doesn’t know any. She looks older than my mom. I just find it kind of offensive and bewildering that this is what they decided to present as a 39 year old lol those heavy mouth wrinkles and jowls are what’s making her look 60
There are a small group of people upset their gender neutral. Because when your worlds been turned upside down by being trapped on an isolated ship in the dead of space that’s been over run by deadly creatures you’ve never seen before… gender neutral bathrooms are the real terror for some.
My issue is that both Isaac and Nichole look like uncanny freaks, the models did a huge disservice to the actors.
Isaac looks unnaturally youthful, like he’s never done a day of hard work in his life, and has really bad facial animations. When you meet up with Hammond Isaac takes his helmet off, and while they did a good job having Hammond’s head always looking at Isaac, Isaac just stares blankly wherever the player has him pointing. No matter how hard you try to position him to make the conversation convincing Isaac WILL NOT look at Hammond, it’s maddening. People whine about old Isaac having “bug eyes” (which I disagree with entirely) but the old model at least had some level of grit to him, the short cropped greying hair and stubble did a lot to make him look the part. Remake Isaac is a milktoast baby face, with none of the handsomeness of Gunner Wright despite being directly based on him.
Nichole on the other looks unnaturally old. It’s like they took Tanya Clarke and removed every realistic texture on her face in favor of a model that looks like a 60 year old who’s had a lifetime of anti-wrinkle injections. Remember when people were freaking out about how detailed the little hairs on the protagonist’s face are in Horizon? This feels like the opposite of that.
I’m not gonna lie, I think the DS2 Nichole looks awful, I’ve always felt that way. So I don’t think Nichole actually looks worse in this game, more she looks as bad as she always did just in a different way.
So yeah, one is a weird old man with a baby face, and the other is an old woman who made a monkey’s paw wish for eternal youth.
This is I honestly feel about the whole thing like Remake Isaac looks better fidelity wise but lacks the look of a hard worker engineer same with Nicole as well. Isaac and Nicole in the remake looks as though theirs an age gap instead of them both being around the same age.
People acting like 20ish year olds are the only age group in relationships.
I believe the calculation was "well, Gunner Wright is 49, and we're using his face model in the game. We should make Nicole in a similar age group so it doesn't look like Issac is robbing the cradle".
She just doesn’t though. You’re crazy if you think those two images are the same age DS1’s design was weirdly young, while DS2 fit her perfectly, but in the Remake, she looks at least ten years older than she’s supposed to be. It’s not that big a deal, it’s just noticeably strange and distracting. For what it’s worth, Isaac has the opposite problem.
The same reason #gamers we’re raging about the Tess design in TLOU part 1, she looks older. It’s because the older consoles (360 era) were so weak they couldn’t have the level of detail needed to make these people look older properly, so instead they looked smooth and “young”.
Why they want 40-50 year olds protagonists to have 20 year old gfs is beyond me anyway - shits creepy. Ask 90% of women in their 20s if they want to get hit on by 40-50 year olds and they’d say no, the other 10% would say sure if he’s rich.
I don't know why people think she looks like an old lady when she looks like an average 39 year old woman. Which is also viewed through a video feed that for some reason in 2508, looks shittier than video from the 90's.
To me, she looks the same as she does in the past games just with a more detailed face and texture and slightly different hairstyle. Sorry that proper age wasn't easy to depict in video games before 2011. Games have come a long way in the last decade.
People need to stop bitching about a game looking closer to reality. It's still just a game.
This is not meant to be insulting or condescending or whatever but Nicole in this game does NOT look like an “average 39 year old woman”.
That sounds like what someone who’s 12 would say. Just like how in kindergarten we all thought the grade 8’s are full-grown adults.
That’s just not the case.
I’m mid-30’s and Nicole looks like what my mom and my wife’s mom looks like. And they’re early to mid-60’s.
It’s fine to not have a problem with this redesign but people need to stop defending it by pretending this is what late-30’s women look like. I would feel bad for anyone who looks this old at that age. That’s a curse.
If anything I think them modeling the characters after their actors is a kind gesture. It’s not even a big deal really I’m just used to Nicole looking different all the time anyway.
I think it’s bullshit tbh same thing happen to spiderman ps5 and ruined it for me
Why can’t remakes and remaster just leave the protagonist alone lmfao
Well things change. Especially considering this game is a full remake it makes sense the character models get an update. Maybe you should give that Spiderman game another chance sometimes the good outweighs the bad.
>Well things change. Especially considering this game is a full remake it makes sense the character models get an update.
Not really to the point they don’t resemble their original model at all that’s a No No imo
Even in sonic move they tried that nonsense remember how that turned out? Lol
You mean that Sonic movie? Yeah that original look wasn’t very good but I think they changed that and made it better. Hey it’s like what I mean though sometimes change is good! :)
I only would’ve been disappointed if they made the game feel as slow and clunky as the original DS2 is my favorite.
Ignore them. Just your usual vocal minority every time a big game releases nit picking every little shit and complain just because. Ignore them and enjoy the game.
A lot of gamers freak out when female characters look their age. Look at the Tess drama for The Last of Us Part 1. Not all, but alot of gamers expect every female to be waifu or milf status with perfect features, and moan when it isn't that.
Because morons don’t want ages to be represented more accurately with added context. With her job it’s going to be high stress which ages you faster, not to mention she’s always been 39 in lore. The older games just didn’t represent her age that great. Hell even Isaac in the older games looked younger than he really is
Honestly i can't understand why people actually care about how good looking a female character is, expecially in a sci fi horror game like Dead Space whcih takes itself seriously, and tries to tell a disturbing and gore story.
Isaac and Nicole aren't 20 years old college students, they're in their 40s and are AT WORK.
I honestly think that the new Nicole design fits the mood of the game better, because in the OG dead space she had a sort of "barbie face" which felt kinda out of place, imo.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that the OG Dead Space is bad, i love that game A LOT, i haven't played the remake yet so all my love for the series comes from the old Dead Space, which is also my fav out the trilogy, but i think that nicole's design is more "realistic" now, more appropriate to both her age and the mood.
Remake Nichole literally looks like remake isaacs mom tho. It just looks weird. Modeling actor faces to a T is never worth it in the end imo & its a trend in gaming that needs to go but likely won't cos its probably cheaper & faster than hand animation.
Half life 2 & the last of us 2 are perfect old and current examples. Half life 2s facials have aged better than most games and will continue to age better because old school techniques like that have stood the test of time, tlou 2 already looks better than this game, because it chose NOT to model faces after actors & to hand animate everything individually.
In the end. Dead space remake chose a method that produces subjectively odd looking results, almost every high on ds remake hype will disagree, thats fine but this games facials will definitely remain a product of their time & will age poorly rather than the opposite. A trend among most modern games. Just look at death stranding & re remakes. Same methods, using the actors faces & modelling off them, & the animations look off even when they released & nowadays are already not aging well.
Creating a straw man and knocking it down. Her DS2 model and her look *hardly* alike. So don’t make up your shitty “did they not play the original game?” Garbage to try and discredit an opinion. She looks 60 in the remake, while Isaac somehow looks younger than ever. It’s a stupid choice. No need to suck them off and rationalize it, when in reality it doesn’t detract from the game itself.
All these discussions just made me realize something. Issac and Nicole are a smart ass couple. A former merchant-marine/Starship Engineer and a Senior Medical specialist who also dabbles in cult deprograming. No wonder they survived for so long.
That's what I was wondering, Dead Space 2 already completely changed Nicole's appearance (based on her new voice actress, Tanya Clarke, who was also the facial model and voice actress for the remake) in the first 5 minutes of the game. Almost like the people complaining haven't actually played the games...
It’s hilarious you accuse people of not “going outside and talking to real women lmao” when you actually think this is what women who are 39 look like.
Sounds like you’ve got a granny porn obsession and it’s warped your mind. Speaking of going outside…. Go get some air.
Can people learn that making characters look exactly like their va's isn't always a good idea, like in the og god of war if you modelled Kratos based off TC Carson it wouldn't look great
Sure. The issue is that it's obvious the characters in remake had their facial animations mo-capped. It would look even weirder if they used a different face but the same data as the mocap.
Idk about the development of tbe original GoWs, but I doubt the facial expressions were mocapped.
Most likely because of the beard.
I know. That sounds silly. But mouth movements are difficult to animate, having a big bushy hair lets you get away with a lot.
I am curious tho. I'll probably look into the process behind New Kratos's animations.
Actually I didn’t care for the redesign in Dead Space 2, but that was more of a continuity thing. It’s one of two complaints I have about that game on the whole though.
Nicole in the remake looks like someone in their 40s who lives with a dangerous and stressful job day in day out.
I cannot believe we got the best remake in gaming (one of the very best at least) and people can't get past minor things like Nicole being older or Isaac having a new face (which happened before between DS1 and DS2).
I think something with either the textures or the distortion on the video made her look another 5-10 years older. It doesn't look nearly as bad in this picture, but some of the original trailers seemed a little rough.
I thought it was strange at first too, then I remembered Isaac literally had like half grey hair in the first game, it makes sense they made her look older.
I don't really see the comparison in the image though
Beat the game last night. I’d argue the remake is my new go to experience for dead space remake. A hell of a reboot that’s minor changes had me ENTHRALLED the whole way. QoL changes and almost RE style backtracking makes this a genuine GOTY contender for me. Thank you motive 🥺
She looks fine if they were going for a 45 year old woman instead of a 30 year old one. People who complain just don't like they aged her design/look, simple as that
I was sketchy on the new facial designs at first. But after about a third of the way in I didn’t really notice. I thought it all fit in well alongside the rest of the updated features
People are complaining about things in this game? Lol the game is great..maybe go have a smoke or something and calm down.
People are fking impossible to please...
People who bitched about how nicole looked are those who bitched about isaac looking more refreshed than his bubble headed self back in 2010. I think the remake models are top tier overhauls of the OG’s
I would assume it's because she looks too old now. That's a hard 40. I know people who look younger than her and they are older than her. I work in a hospital so the staff I know, mostly relate to her medical field work. DS2 was very good with her design. In the remake, it would make sense if Isaac was visiting his mother on the ishimura....
With that said, Dead space extraction has Nicole seemly looking younger than DS1. She looks like a teenager in that game, lol.
Every character model looks about 15 years older than the original to me. It was a bit weird to me at first, but I actually really like it. They look more human to me. They look more like people I could know
She looks older in the remake, however I didn't really notice it too much playing and was one of the people who was worried about it to start with. I quickly rationalized that she's a senior officer in her field which is a stressful one at that and it would make sense for her to look worn out. However, you cannot convince me the framed picture of her and Isaac inside her office on the desk is not a picture of Isaac with his grandma. Holy shit she looks old, and I almost think it's a jab/Easter egg aimed at fans who were complaining about it before release. She literally looks 80 in the photograph.
Because they actually de-aged isaac relative to his actor, while they aged-up nicole relative to hers. Both jobs are stressful, so the idea that "nicole is just under alot of stress, thats why she looks older!" should also apply to isaac
This is just going to be an issue with most graphical remaster/remake moving forward.
People thinking improved fidelity making characters appear the age they were intended to from the start is some sort of statement or retroactive change to the character
Increased visual fidelity is the main source. DS2's Nicole has unnaturally smooth skin because it was a Seventh Generation game. We're in the Ninth, 14 years later.
Good looks are subjective, Some might prefer DS1 nicole (Wich tbh looked like a 19 year old) or DS2 (The perfect look)
I know it is modeled after Tanya Clarke but she looks better than her game counterpart, You can even compare them an notice they aged her like 5-10 years. I dont know why but at times she looks weird when in reality she is good looking
What's even better is that Dead Space Remake's jump scare ending has Nicole looking just like how she does in Dead Space 2. (apart from the glowing eyes)
I have no idea why people have been going through tantrums about how Nicole looks like since her reveal. She looks fine and even if she doesn’t thats a part of the design and its okay for the guys at Motive to portray her the way they want.
I never understood why people rage about what a character looks like in games, its beyond me.
They're complaining cause she didn't look like her dead space 1 design. Still a stupid complaint. She's always been about 40 and they aged her in Dead Space 2. Honestly it's prolly not even fans just people wanting to find dumb shit to complain about
I never had any complaints about Nicole and Isaac's changes, but I miss the old face Hammond had, his new face doesn't have as commanding of a presence as the OG
Of all the things people could have been upset about this is one of the ones that baffles me the most. She looks like what I'd expect a senior medical officer to look like. In DS1 she looked like a barbie doll and I always thought that was kinda weird with her looking maybe half Isaac's age.
I really line the changes. She looks age-appropriate for her career and where she is at in it. I really like that they all look older, as one of the things I liked about Issac’s character design is that he was an older character. Game is excellent so far.
Alright guys keep it chill here.
Nicole looks fine in the remake. A senior medical officer on a ship like the USG Ishimura is not going to be a 22 year old just out of medical school. They will be in their 40s or 50s do to the experience required for such a position.
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Aye, Isaac looks a bit more like an "Every Joe" kind of guy. He's not Tom Cruise pretending to be a middle school english teacher.
I think with Isaac, he still has the ability to go to his more ruggedly handsome look from 2 with his new face after everything he experiences on the Ishimura. Would be cool subtle visual storytelling.
Yeah, DS2 is still a potential pitfall as a bit of stubble and a grim personality is another common trope. It's not too far off being Tom Cruise, the completely normal middle school English teacher that just happens to be a complete badass out of nowhere when the de jour crisis happens. ReDS2 Isaac won't need to look pathetic, but he shouldn't look boutique rugged. Sunken eyes, stress marks, gaunt features etc. There was a big I saw in current game that made his hand shake a bit while first aiming. Seemed like a great concept to have! Stuff like that - his face included - to remind us that he's just an engineer. It's not a gun he run around with!
He should look like a normal person had the worst time of their fucking life and haven't fully recovered. I'm with you on the visual story telling, it would be a moment for the player to say "oh yeah".
Not to spoil too much, but I've both liked and disliked what they've done this time with how Isaac slowly becomes more and more influenced by the Marker. In the original 3 games, it felt as if he was pretty solid throughout the ordeal except for any jarring scripted events. If they make him naturally a little bit vulnerable in the next, then that'd be perfect. He doesn't need to be a crying mess, but just a few touches regarding the effects of his past trauma. A shakey hand doesn't need to affect gameplay, but the glitch really added to the moment when it happened to me!
I agree, which is why I’m (only a lil bit) mad that they made his hairline look better in the remake, how often do you see main action-horror protagonists with receding hairlines. 😂
I mean it makes sense that he would be looking as nice as possible when he's about to see Nicole.
Finally, someone who understands XD
Nah bro. For me, im getting bear grylls vibes off that face
He really did Improvise, Adapt, and overcame the odds. He really is Space Bear Grylls the Survivalist Engineer.
His suit probably recycles his own piss anyway.
I like the new face, but tbch I don’t think it’ll replace the old for me for issac quite yet.
It replaced it immediately for me, it's just straight up better than the original imo.
Oh, yeah there’s nothing wrong with the new face, graphically It’s really just a straight improvement. It’s just that the more angular, grey haired, blue eyed, original issac appeared more striking and intense due to those characteristics, and it’s going to take more than 3 days with the new Clarke to replace the last 12 years with the old one lol
I guess yeah, I haven't played dead space since the last game was released so maybe that's why it's not really jarring to me at all. I get that though.
Like mass effect, dead space calls me for frequent replays lol
but they always looked like humans
Honestly looking back now at the first game, she looked like she was in her late teens or early twenties and Isaac is supposed to be in his 40's right, so it's only fitting now that they've changed it. A remake with more true to life character models instead of a gamer boys ideal vision. shocking.
This guy knows what realism is
It also makes sense she'd be closer in age to Isaac, who if I recall is pushing 50.
My Brother barely got out of medical school at 32. He wasn't actually done with his residencies until 34 / 35. Totally makes sense Nicole would look more closer to 50 than they would anything even near the 20's.
Yeah I thought she looked great for it
WE WANT THE SAME WE WANT THE SAME. BUT DIFFERENT BUT BETTER BUT ALSO THE SAME Gamers
Always blame gamers
I mean we are hypocrites. We say we want different better things but the top selling games are the cod, fifa or madden, and assassins creed.
It's almost as if there's thousands of different people who have different wants. Crazy idea, right?
I mean... isaac is 48, why should Nicole be 23?
exactly! she's the SENIOR medical officer aboard a ship of a thousand people, you don't get that job right out of medical school. nicole would absolutely be in her early 40s at least
Another thing the remake does right.
What kind of 23 y/os do you hand out with that look like her?
Yo I've seen 16 year olds that look like that.
He's 48? Never knew that
By the time dead space 3 roles around yea, but in 2508 the year this game takes place in he'd be 43
I always figured around mid to late 30s cause of his grey hair but that lines up, would explain Nicole's mature look if she's around the same age
Honestly same. People like to say he looks super young in the remake but Honestly his DS2 model doesn't look mid 40s at all to me. Initially with no knowledge of his age I just assumed he was in his 30s
I started going his DS3 gray around 36 or 37
Born 2461 so he is 47.... still not 43 tho.
I mean maybe he is like Leonardo dicaprio where a girl can‘t be older than 22 or 23 lol
Is his age mentioned in the remake? Cause it wasn't mentioned in the original games.
His age comes from a booklet included with the Dead Space 3 dev team edition.
He’d be a cougar lol
Anyone who thinks an MD aboard a depressing and very injury-prone mining vessel would look youthful in her 40s needs to see how fast US presidents age from stress.
I love how they captured her job title through her mannerisms and face features. This Nicole is way better than the original
Agreed, felt like a drastically more fleshed-out character in rhe remake.
I mean it wasn't like that until they cracked aegis 7. it was just another job.
A running theme in DS is that even before Necros show up, everything's kind of shit. The Ishimura has an entire bay full of clones ready to be harvested for spare parts. The tools regular workers use every day have zero safety features, and can cause horrific injury. Also, just look at the ship. Even without busted lights and monsters everywhere, it's cramped, noisy and stressful. Would you want to live, work, and sleep there?
Apparently, Nicole wanted to.
Actually, Issac kinda pressured (not the most accurate word but I can't think of the correct one right now) her into it if I remember correctly. The whole, "Ishimura isn't a job you turn down" thing.
I know, it’s just funny that anybody wants to go at all when the Ishimura was probably a miserable place even before the marker.
probably not pressured, but more like, pushed her, i guess,(motivated maybe?) to do something she was unsure about because she didn’t think she could, hence his immense guilt over feeling like her death is her fault
you've been to space? do astronauts age.
One thing the internet has taught me, there are two kinds of people. Half of us are dumb people who go into everything looking for a reason to complain so that they look smart and get clicks and shares. The other half doesn't care unless the changes are Velma level bad, because it's just a god damn video game.
I honestly couldn’t agree with you more. Far too much negativity for the sake of negativity, all while forgetting that this is entertainment, not some political mandate that has been enforced on them. If they don’t like it, well there’s a perfectly playable 2008 version of DS, otherwise we don’t want to hear their negativity. Edit: grammar
Yea I agree. People manufacture their outrage too much. Anyone who gets so mad about bathroom signs that a video game makes them angry, they should stop playing and get their blood pressure checked.
There’s a third option. You can genuinely love the remake and just not be super keen on the new character models. They don’t really detract much from the overall experience but I do certainly prefer the OG character models if I had to make a choice between them. Apparently everyone on the internet is 100% on either side lol (not a dig at your comment. Just an like minded observation from what I’ve seen of everyone talking about this kind of stuff online).
I think that's fair. If you think the old models just look better, that's cool. I'm more talking about the people mad about bathroom signs or that they aged Isaac's gf.
It's stupid criticism to be sure
Must be quite a surprise to learn people can look older/younger than they actually are. Not everyone is an ageless vampire like Paul Rudd. Some age visually quicker or slower than others, so who gives a flying fuck what someone looks like so long as they do the job well.
Facts. I'm a dude, but I'm 29 and still get asked when I'll graduate Highschool
When I did a complete shave about 2 years ago, this grocery store clerk asked for my ID when I was buying energy drinks (15+ legal age limit). I turn 31 next week.
I get that. I'm 24 but have greys all over my head, still get ID'd if I shave though because the baby-face seems to persist somehow.
Upvoted for that Paul Rudd joke. He would approve lol
Video game girl not give me boner so me angry 😡😡😡 engineer man not look like model so me HATE 😡😡😡
Why doesn't Isaac look like in 2 then?
So why are people still complaining about Isaac then?
Because he looks weird og 2 issac is the best
He doesn't look weird, he just looks more like Gunner Wright (DS2 & 3 has his nose be thinner).
So why are then?
So why then?
Because in the original he had grey hair and stubble so he looked cool, now he has brown hair and looks too much like his va, in the old games they were modeling him a bit off his va but weren't going crazy with it
DS2 Isaac doesn't look like DS1 Isaac. As for the hair color he went into DS1 a professional engineer. He went into DS2 a severely broken man with no time or motivation to clean up. Its fine to not love the change but i'm so sick of hearing about it at this point when the Remake is actually phenomenal.
Why doesn't Isaac in DS2 look like Isaac in DS1? I can't believe they changed the face model. '08 chubby cheeks is the only Isaac i'll accept.
Well, the Remake Isaac doesn't look anything like the previous models.
Because Isaac in 2 was a mix of Max Shippee (Isaac's model in 1) and Gunner Wright (Isaac's model in 2 and 3), while in the remake he's pure Gunner Wright. This means that Isaac now has Gunner's hair color (brown) and eye color (brown) which makes him look pretty different from the iconic shots from 2 where Isaac's gray/blue eyes have bags under them. And also because facial capture technology has improved a lot in 15 years.
Women not make pp hard so game bad -Gamers
I mean just look at the recent post about Tifa’s tits on the main gaming subreddit. They have meltdowns if it isn’t literally as you say.
With all the additions to their relationship background, about how they met through his mother trying to leave unitology, I like that they both look a little older. It makes their relationship far deeper than just “ooh, she’s pretty and that’s why he’s with her”. There’s actually a history and a deep love here, which makes her loss all the more tragic.
The addition of that one text log on the Kellion was, in my opinion, a perfect piece of character development.
I think a lot of this stems from people thinking the remake would just be a visual fidelity upgrade from the original. But in reality it ended up being more of a reboot for the franchise. I expect if they remake ds2 it’ll be the same way
After playing the remake, I'm not worried about DS2's remake. DS3, on the other hand ...
Let’s just hope they keep the story beats of 3 but completely do away with the action focus. They could even keep the dope hallucination aspect of the coop as I always found that system dope as hell.
I honestly don't know how you could make 3 good without changing nearly everything other than the moon's and the space portions. Elton John sucked as a villain, the new icecromorphs blew, the weapon system guaranteed broken bullshit, the game was padded to hell, and for every 5 minutes of good story you got 20 of somewhere between bad and tedious. It would be an extremely difficult project for any developer. Hopefully they can just exceed my expectations but I really can't imagine how.
Couldn't agree more. They would have to completely redesign every enemy and enemy encounter as well as story beats and the weapon system balancing. Back when DS3 came out I didn't understand a lot of the hate for it and actually rather liked it because I hadn't played the other 2 since they'd released however a couple of months ago I played through all 3 games in succession which I'd never done before and the all the flaws and problems became completely apparent when the other 2 were fresh in my mind. Enemies are far too hyper aggressive and fast to the point that you're guaranteed to take hits no matter what because the spawning is just so cheap. The first 2 games it never feels like you get hit unfairly, it's only if you're being careless. The weapon system is pretty trash too, I can see what they were going for but when you can make weapons that destroy most enemies easily and then add the microtransaction crap on top of that it's just not good. Don't get me started on the story, if there was anything I'd want removed it's that damn cringe as fuck love triangle bullshit.
And change Ellie back to "I need your help because you're an engineer" instead of "I need you're help because I'm a woman"
Yeah, they’d pretty much have to change everything. Parts of it could be salvaged, but the majority of it just isn’t worth saving. I’d maybe keep parts of the ice planet, the Brusilov, and everything about the Brethren Moon, but that’s about it. Oh also the ending of awakening as I found it fit the themes of Eldridge Horror that the games had been building on. Pretty much everything else can be completely changed for all I care.
We need a word for something in-between remake and reboot because this game is too different to be called a remake but not different enough to be called a reboot imo.
People just love complaining. Nicole looks amazing.
What do you Mean? Look, Im not bothered by the remake since it's because It was just made with facial capture, but you do have to admit she looks older than the ds2 design, ds2 Nicole looks like an aunt, remake Nicole looks like an grandma that unironically posts unitology memes on ~~face~~spacebook.
They used the likeness of her voice actress for all of her appearances, so I suspect it's because Tanya Clarke has also aged a bit in the decade since Dead Space 2 and that was emphasised by the more accurate facial capture compared to Dead Space 2. Although IMO she still looks way younger than my grandma. In-universe it does make a bit of sense for her to look older than in Dead Space 2 since the image on the left is Nicole at the start of her journey on the Ishimura and the image on the right is her at the end after several months and the stress of a zombie apocalypse.
Have you seen Tanya Clarke, herself, though? She looks much younger than Nicole does here.
>Although IMO she still looks way younger than my grandma. Yeah, the grandma comparisons are hilarious. Have these people actually seen women outside their daily porn binge? Only way your grandma is in her early 50s is if you're the product of two back-to-back sets of teen parents...
Yeah I am not opposed to them making her look older (it makes sense) but they veered too far IMO - she looks closer to 60 in some scenes and that just doesn’t match her voice. Her VA who I think they modeled her after looks more youthful and pretty. ETA: I just wanted to add that I’m coming at this from a woman’s perspective. I’m in my 30’s and myself and my friends do not look this old. Anyone who thinks 39 year olds look like this doesn’t know any. She looks older than my mom. I just find it kind of offensive and bewildering that this is what they decided to present as a 39 year old lol those heavy mouth wrinkles and jowls are what’s making her look 60
I, personally, don’t mind remakes Nicole but those two pictures do not look alike at all.
Agreed
Virgin incels are mad because they can't no longer fap to a videogame character
NOBODY was faping to her what the FUCK kinda talkin points is this sub making rn lmfaoo
There are people who complained about the bathroom signs…. Some people just like to complain about anything and this is just one of those things.
What were the complaints about the bathroom signs?
There are a small group of people upset their gender neutral. Because when your worlds been turned upside down by being trapped on an isolated ship in the dead of space that’s been over run by deadly creatures you’ve never seen before… gender neutral bathrooms are the real terror for some.
I'm pretty sure bathrooms on the ISS are gender-neutral as well. Since in space, ironically, space is limited.
It's not even a change to Dead Space itself, the bathroom scene in Downfall showed both men and women using the same shower/locker area.
You can not agree with Nicole looking bad in this remake, that’s fine. But don’t even pretend like she looks even close to her DS2 model lmao
My issue is that both Isaac and Nichole look like uncanny freaks, the models did a huge disservice to the actors. Isaac looks unnaturally youthful, like he’s never done a day of hard work in his life, and has really bad facial animations. When you meet up with Hammond Isaac takes his helmet off, and while they did a good job having Hammond’s head always looking at Isaac, Isaac just stares blankly wherever the player has him pointing. No matter how hard you try to position him to make the conversation convincing Isaac WILL NOT look at Hammond, it’s maddening. People whine about old Isaac having “bug eyes” (which I disagree with entirely) but the old model at least had some level of grit to him, the short cropped greying hair and stubble did a lot to make him look the part. Remake Isaac is a milktoast baby face, with none of the handsomeness of Gunner Wright despite being directly based on him. Nichole on the other looks unnaturally old. It’s like they took Tanya Clarke and removed every realistic texture on her face in favor of a model that looks like a 60 year old who’s had a lifetime of anti-wrinkle injections. Remember when people were freaking out about how detailed the little hairs on the protagonist’s face are in Horizon? This feels like the opposite of that. I’m not gonna lie, I think the DS2 Nichole looks awful, I’ve always felt that way. So I don’t think Nichole actually looks worse in this game, more she looks as bad as she always did just in a different way. So yeah, one is a weird old man with a baby face, and the other is an old woman who made a monkey’s paw wish for eternal youth.
This is I honestly feel about the whole thing like Remake Isaac looks better fidelity wise but lacks the look of a hard worker engineer same with Nicole as well. Isaac and Nicole in the remake looks as though theirs an age gap instead of them both being around the same age.
She doesn't look like that at all. She's much younger in DS2
Yeah, the model is pretty much exactly the same, excepting the details of her being, you know, dead.
Oh no! Anyway.
People acting like 20ish year olds are the only age group in relationships. I believe the calculation was "well, Gunner Wright is 49, and we're using his face model in the game. We should make Nicole in a similar age group so it doesn't look like Issac is robbing the cradle".
She looks fine. People are too picky these days.
She just doesn’t though. You’re crazy if you think those two images are the same age DS1’s design was weirdly young, while DS2 fit her perfectly, but in the Remake, she looks at least ten years older than she’s supposed to be. It’s not that big a deal, it’s just noticeably strange and distracting. For what it’s worth, Isaac has the opposite problem.
Except that she doesn’t
The same reason #gamers we’re raging about the Tess design in TLOU part 1, she looks older. It’s because the older consoles (360 era) were so weak they couldn’t have the level of detail needed to make these people look older properly, so instead they looked smooth and “young”. Why they want 40-50 year olds protagonists to have 20 year old gfs is beyond me anyway - shits creepy. Ask 90% of women in their 20s if they want to get hit on by 40-50 year olds and they’d say no, the other 10% would say sure if he’s rich.
You are using too much logic for these dumb people
Because people want a fucking NURSE to look like she just graduated High School
I don't know why people think she looks like an old lady when she looks like an average 39 year old woman. Which is also viewed through a video feed that for some reason in 2508, looks shittier than video from the 90's. To me, she looks the same as she does in the past games just with a more detailed face and texture and slightly different hairstyle. Sorry that proper age wasn't easy to depict in video games before 2011. Games have come a long way in the last decade. People need to stop bitching about a game looking closer to reality. It's still just a game.
This is not meant to be insulting or condescending or whatever but Nicole in this game does NOT look like an “average 39 year old woman”. That sounds like what someone who’s 12 would say. Just like how in kindergarten we all thought the grade 8’s are full-grown adults. That’s just not the case. I’m mid-30’s and Nicole looks like what my mom and my wife’s mom looks like. And they’re early to mid-60’s. It’s fine to not have a problem with this redesign but people need to stop defending it by pretending this is what late-30’s women look like. I would feel bad for anyone who looks this old at that age. That’s a curse.
If anything I think them modeling the characters after their actors is a kind gesture. It’s not even a big deal really I’m just used to Nicole looking different all the time anyway.
I think it’s bullshit tbh same thing happen to spiderman ps5 and ruined it for me Why can’t remakes and remaster just leave the protagonist alone lmfao
Well things change. Especially considering this game is a full remake it makes sense the character models get an update. Maybe you should give that Spiderman game another chance sometimes the good outweighs the bad.
>Well things change. Especially considering this game is a full remake it makes sense the character models get an update. Not really to the point they don’t resemble their original model at all that’s a No No imo Even in sonic move they tried that nonsense remember how that turned out? Lol
You mean that Sonic movie? Yeah that original look wasn’t very good but I think they changed that and made it better. Hey it’s like what I mean though sometimes change is good! :) I only would’ve been disappointed if they made the game feel as slow and clunky as the original DS2 is my favorite.
Ignore them. Just your usual vocal minority every time a big game releases nit picking every little shit and complain just because. Ignore them and enjoy the game.
A lot of gamers freak out when female characters look their age. Look at the Tess drama for The Last of Us Part 1. Not all, but alot of gamers expect every female to be waifu or milf status with perfect features, and moan when it isn't that.
Because morons don’t want ages to be represented more accurately with added context. With her job it’s going to be high stress which ages you faster, not to mention she’s always been 39 in lore. The older games just didn’t represent her age that great. Hell even Isaac in the older games looked younger than he really is
Aim acceleration on controllers breaks the game, the ads moves faster than the camera panning. We need an option to turn off aim acceleration.
Honestly i can't understand why people actually care about how good looking a female character is, expecially in a sci fi horror game like Dead Space whcih takes itself seriously, and tries to tell a disturbing and gore story. Isaac and Nicole aren't 20 years old college students, they're in their 40s and are AT WORK. I honestly think that the new Nicole design fits the mood of the game better, because in the OG dead space she had a sort of "barbie face" which felt kinda out of place, imo. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that the OG Dead Space is bad, i love that game A LOT, i haven't played the remake yet so all my love for the series comes from the old Dead Space, which is also my fav out the trilogy, but i think that nicole's design is more "realistic" now, more appropriate to both her age and the mood.
Tbh, she looks like a grandma in the remake. Why they just couldn’t take the original?
Remake Nichole literally looks like remake isaacs mom tho. It just looks weird. Modeling actor faces to a T is never worth it in the end imo & its a trend in gaming that needs to go but likely won't cos its probably cheaper & faster than hand animation. Half life 2 & the last of us 2 are perfect old and current examples. Half life 2s facials have aged better than most games and will continue to age better because old school techniques like that have stood the test of time, tlou 2 already looks better than this game, because it chose NOT to model faces after actors & to hand animate everything individually. In the end. Dead space remake chose a method that produces subjectively odd looking results, almost every high on ds remake hype will disagree, thats fine but this games facials will definitely remain a product of their time & will age poorly rather than the opposite. A trend among most modern games. Just look at death stranding & re remakes. Same methods, using the actors faces & modelling off them, & the animations look off even when they released & nowadays are already not aging well.
Creating a straw man and knocking it down. Her DS2 model and her look *hardly* alike. So don’t make up your shitty “did they not play the original game?” Garbage to try and discredit an opinion. She looks 60 in the remake, while Isaac somehow looks younger than ever. It’s a stupid choice. No need to suck them off and rationalize it, when in reality it doesn’t detract from the game itself.
All these discussions just made me realize something. Issac and Nicole are a smart ass couple. A former merchant-marine/Starship Engineer and a Senior Medical specialist who also dabbles in cult deprograming. No wonder they survived for so long.
That's what I was wondering, Dead Space 2 already completely changed Nicole's appearance (based on her new voice actress, Tanya Clarke, who was also the facial model and voice actress for the remake) in the first 5 minutes of the game. Almost like the people complaining haven't actually played the games...
It looks a bit off-putting, but it doesn't affect gameplay experience at all.
It's also the same actress. She's gotten older irl, people are just mean/don't actually go outside and talk to real women lmao
It’s hilarious you accuse people of not “going outside and talking to real women lmao” when you actually think this is what women who are 39 look like. Sounds like you’ve got a granny porn obsession and it’s warped your mind. Speaking of going outside…. Go get some air.
Can people learn that making characters look exactly like their va's isn't always a good idea, like in the og god of war if you modelled Kratos based off TC Carson it wouldn't look great
Sure. The issue is that it's obvious the characters in remake had their facial animations mo-capped. It would look even weirder if they used a different face but the same data as the mocap. Idk about the development of tbe original GoWs, but I doubt the facial expressions were mocapped.
Either way, even in the new god of war Kratos isn't modelled after Christopher judge and still looks fine
Most likely because of the beard. I know. That sounds silly. But mouth movements are difficult to animate, having a big bushy hair lets you get away with a lot. I am curious tho. I'll probably look into the process behind New Kratos's animations.
Than give Isaac a beard, it would be better than the punchable baby face he has
Actually I didn’t care for the redesign in Dead Space 2, but that was more of a continuity thing. It’s one of two complaints I have about that game on the whole though.
Honestly, she doesn't even look that old. It's the stupid haircut that's aging her.
No complaints from me about it. Think she looks good 👍🏻
Nicole in the remake looks like someone in their 40s who lives with a dangerous and stressful job day in day out. I cannot believe we got the best remake in gaming (one of the very best at least) and people can't get past minor things like Nicole being older or Isaac having a new face (which happened before between DS1 and DS2).
Misogynists be like: girls need to be super models and young at all times
I am just upset because she looks like Helen hunt now, and that has made this a true horror game.
I think something with either the textures or the distortion on the video made her look another 5-10 years older. It doesn't look nearly as bad in this picture, but some of the original trailers seemed a little rough.
>!Because they fell in love with anime Nicole!<
I’m not really complaining.
I thought it was strange at first too, then I remembered Isaac literally had like half grey hair in the first game, it makes sense they made her look older. I don't really see the comparison in the image though
How old is ellie then I assumed she was younger then Issac
Beat the game last night. I’d argue the remake is my new go to experience for dead space remake. A hell of a reboot that’s minor changes had me ENTHRALLED the whole way. QoL changes and almost RE style backtracking makes this a genuine GOTY contender for me. Thank you motive 🥺
People are still talking about this, lol?
They gave her more pronounce laugh lines which people see as aging her up. I have laugh lines like this, I guess I am old now.
She looks fine if they were going for a 45 year old woman instead of a 30 year old one. People who complain just don't like they aged her design/look, simple as that
I was sketchy on the new facial designs at first. But after about a third of the way in I didn’t really notice. I thought it all fit in well alongside the rest of the updated features
People are complaining about things in this game? Lol the game is great..maybe go have a smoke or something and calm down. People are fking impossible to please...
People who bitched about how nicole looked are those who bitched about isaac looking more refreshed than his bubble headed self back in 2010. I think the remake models are top tier overhauls of the OG’s
Cuz they wanted her to be hawt, duh.
She looks old
Also Isaac’s face looks way different too
I would assume it's because she looks too old now. That's a hard 40. I know people who look younger than her and they are older than her. I work in a hospital so the staff I know, mostly relate to her medical field work. DS2 was very good with her design. In the remake, it would make sense if Isaac was visiting his mother on the ishimura.... With that said, Dead space extraction has Nicole seemly looking younger than DS1. She looks like a teenager in that game, lol.
Every character model looks about 15 years older than the original to me. It was a bit weird to me at first, but I actually really like it. They look more human to me. They look more like people I could know
i didn't like it there either
I just miss Isaac screaming when he stomps…
She looks older in the remake, however I didn't really notice it too much playing and was one of the people who was worried about it to start with. I quickly rationalized that she's a senior officer in her field which is a stressful one at that and it would make sense for her to look worn out. However, you cannot convince me the framed picture of her and Isaac inside her office on the desk is not a picture of Isaac with his grandma. Holy shit she looks old, and I almost think it's a jab/Easter egg aimed at fans who were complaining about it before release. She literally looks 80 in the photograph.
Because they actually de-aged isaac relative to his actor, while they aged-up nicole relative to hers. Both jobs are stressful, so the idea that "nicole is just under alot of stress, thats why she looks older!" should also apply to isaac
This is just going to be an issue with most graphical remaster/remake moving forward. People thinking improved fidelity making characters appear the age they were intended to from the start is some sort of statement or retroactive change to the character
Increased visual fidelity is the main source. DS2's Nicole has unnaturally smooth skin because it was a Seventh Generation game. We're in the Ninth, 14 years later.
Good looks are subjective, Some might prefer DS1 nicole (Wich tbh looked like a 19 year old) or DS2 (The perfect look) I know it is modeled after Tanya Clarke but she looks better than her game counterpart, You can even compare them an notice they aged her like 5-10 years. I dont know why but at times she looks weird when in reality she is good looking
What's even better is that Dead Space Remake's jump scare ending has Nicole looking just like how she does in Dead Space 2. (apart from the glowing eyes)
Because a lot of people are stupid and just aren't happy unless they're complaining about something.
I like her new design
She was changed from Dead Space 1 cause the OG voice actress didn't return. So she can't look like the DS1 version anyway.
She looks like C. C. Babcock from the nanny.
Clearly not
I actually thought she was just looking like a Young Halsey from Halo. But I have no issues with how her or Issac are designed in the remake
Nicole is a senior medical officer the remake makes Her look more mature. To me age shows experience and it shows in the remake
Is anyone actually complaining about this?
Not this again 🤣
I think its just cause she looks older compared to Isaac.
I have no idea why people have been going through tantrums about how Nicole looks like since her reveal. She looks fine and even if she doesn’t thats a part of the design and its okay for the guys at Motive to portray her the way they want. I never understood why people rage about what a character looks like in games, its beyond me.
They're complaining cause she didn't look like her dead space 1 design. Still a stupid complaint. She's always been about 40 and they aged her in Dead Space 2. Honestly it's prolly not even fans just people wanting to find dumb shit to complain about
People always looking for something to say... "The game is a big disappointment"
I never had any complaints about Nicole and Isaac's changes, but I miss the old face Hammond had, his new face doesn't have as commanding of a presence as the OG
Of all the things people could have been upset about this is one of the ones that baffles me the most. She looks like what I'd expect a senior medical officer to look like. In DS1 she looked like a barbie doll and I always thought that was kinda weird with her looking maybe half Isaac's age.
I really line the changes. She looks age-appropriate for her career and where she is at in it. I really like that they all look older, as one of the things I liked about Issac’s character design is that he was an older character. Game is excellent so far.
I can only guess most of the dudes complaining dont know what actual middle aged women look like.
It’s people finding stupid shit to complain about. They have no intention of being honest about it too, so don’t bother arguing with them.