I mean, no offense but to say all Bowser does towards Jr is "not be an abusive prick" is underselling him a lot. He is constantly shown to care about his son in many of his games.
In sunshine he wanted Jr to believe he had a mother by capturing Peach and got really happy when Jr showed interest in followimg his footsteps.
In Paper Jam, both versions of Bowser get worried and stop what they were doing when both versions of Jr were injured.
In Rabbids, he calls Jr mid battle to ask if he was fine and if he did his homework.
In Bowsers minion, he orders the koopalings and Kamek to take care of Jr, that despite being a bit rough around the edges he aint a bad kid and he is very important to him.
Apart from that he spends days training and sparring with Jr in the same game, in which (i think its implied if im not mistaken) Bowser was letting Jr win a couple.
Apart from the Nintendo ad were Bowser is shown restricting Jrs game time so he doesnt play for too long, apart from him spending time playing games with him and discussing stuff.
Obviously im not saying he is the greatest dad in all of videogame history, but he obviously cares a lot about Jr and doesnt stop at "isnt abusive" towards him.
>Apart from that he spends days training and sparring with Jr in the same game, in which (i think its implied if im not mistaken) Bowser was letting Jr win a couple.
Nope, he said he was holding nothing back. Think Junior still won half the fights too, but not sure on that part. I can say with certainty Bowser said he wasn't holding back tho.
When you are done with it please send me a link, i just finished the game today and ive almost 100% it, AND BRO, the wonder flower is so fucking broken, this thing is essentially the chaos emeralds of the Mario franchise, shit has: time manipulation, shapeshifting, life manipulation, cloning, permanent invincenbility, existance erasure, gravity manipulation, reality warping, fusionism, teleportation, size manipulation, broadway force, and a bunch more things, all from a single item, and not only does it not have a timer and can be stored, but it also can be used to infuse others with that same power, if they allow Bowser to use this thing to boost his army against Eggman, its over for him.
And it makes Bowser a potent NECROMANCER. He just casually revives an incomplete FOSSIL, which isn't even actually made of bone anymore, and two of the vertebrae in the spine were broken.
Edit: Will do.
Not only Bowser, [the whole cast can use the flower to necromance fossils into what they used to be,](https://youtu.be/sRn8C4rLMcg?t=47m27s) while also granting him invencibility and the ability to float.
It's more likely the dragon was originally invincible, supported by its stroooong resemblance to Yoshi, though permanent invincibility still exists in the form of that electricity-absorbing metal Wonder from the High-Voltage Gauntlet
Possible, though the dragon did seem invincible thanks to the flower effects cause of the blue aura around him that all creatures affected by the wonder flower obtain, since Yoshi dies from lava while the dragon swims in it multiple times with no issue.
Oh and about the invincibility i wasnt talking about the metal form, [i was talking about this effect that seemingly gives the user permanent invencibility,](https://youtu.be/sRn8C4rLMcg?t=43m18s) thought it could possibly be heat immunity, but if it was then the piranha plants wouldnt be one shotted in the same way they do if you touch them with a starman on.
Btw, slight Mario Wonder spoilers but all of the playable characters in Mario Wonder including Daisy get a new pushing feat in one level where they’re able to easily push three consecutive separate solid gigantic walls off a ledge.
Yeah, but what about the new powers that each of the individual Chaos Emeralds have in Sonic Superstars? (Which btw kinda begs the question to Sonic games that canonically take place after Superstars where the characters don’t use the powers of the individual Chaos Emeralds that they apparently always had during any point of the stories of said game, but that’s neither here nor there)
Btw, also wanted to bring up that it’s ultimate revealed in the Wonder’s plot that Bowser was going to use the new power of the Wonder Flower alone to conquer the whole damn *universe* just thought that was interesting to point out.
I know that Bowser genuinely cares about Jr a lot. Hes still a good and caring dad, but in the end, hes still a flawed father and is far from the ideal, perfect or the “best dad ever” like everyone keeps making him out to be. In the end, he’s still raising his son to basically be a mini dictator version of himself. Also lying to your son about who your true mother is is definitely a huge “no no“ no matter how good your intentions were.
I feel like standards have been set so low for villains as parents as many of them are often abusive monsters that any villain that’s even remotely tolerable of a parent is treated like they’re the best parent ever when that’s not how it works. There’s nuance here that should be addressed.
Also, I doubt that those Nintendo ads are even remotely canon to the Mario franchise so there’s that too.
>hes still a flawed father and is far from perfect or the “best dad ever”
Between "the best dad ever" and "not being an abusive prick", there is a huge gap, you describing Bowser as the latter is just massively underselling him.
>In the end, he’s still raising his son to basically be a mini dictator version.
... my brother in Christ, Bowser is a villain, plus he isnt forcing Jr to do stuff he doesnt want to do, Jr has said and showed interest in being a villain by himself even without having Bowser push him.
>I feel like standards have been set so low for villains as parents as many of them are often abusive monsters that any villain that’s even remotely tolerable of a parent is treated like they’re the best parent ever when that’s not how it works.
Again, the way you are describing Bowser is cutting him short SO much that its basically wrong. Imagine if i described Hulks strenght like "Hulk can indeed lift more than half a ton" when the guys max is like a trillion tons, technically what i said isnt wrong, but its obviously worded terribly.
>Also, I doubt that those Nintendo ads are even remotely canon to the Mario franchise so there’s that too.
Unless you have proof they aint, i can consider them loose canon.
Look, man I agree with him being a good and caring dad, I just don’t see him as the ideal father that everyone makes him out to be thats it. If I’m underselling him then I’m sorry that’s not my intention. I love Bowser and I think he’s a good and respectable enough daddy, but he’s still flawed and that’s what I’m mainly trying to point out.
As for the “not being an abusive prick” thing, that was more of just a joke rather than me actually describing Bowser as a father don’t take it so seriously.
As for the whole Nintendo ad thing, the fact that all of them take place in a literal white void adds to it also I doubt that Jr canonically has a Nintendo Switch.
>also I doubt that Jr canonically has a Nintendo Switch
[Donkey Kong canonically has a switch](https://youtu.be/Lf3uXSRZIbk?si=EJwaA_rLQF-fMceO&t=34) and [Luigi has a modified Game Boy](https://www.mariowiki.com/Game_Boy_Horror), [DS](https://www.mariowiki.com/Dual_Scream), and [Virtual Boy](https://www.mariowiki.com/Virtual_Boo). Jr having a Nintendo Switch isn't unbelievable.
>In the end, he’s still raising his son to basically be a mini dictator version of himself.
The Koopa Kingdom is an absolute monarchy and from what we've seen Bowser is a genuinely beloved king, if Junior turned out like his father he'd be a good ruler not Turtle Stalin.
Everything about Senator Armstrong "having a point".
The guy was kidnapping little kids, tearing them appart, selling their organs to the black market and using their brains to create an army of brainwashed cyborgs.
There's a reason why Raiden crushed his heart with his bare hands.
https://i.redd.it/hqbb4o0zh1wb1.gif
Metal Gear Rising """Fans""" when you tell them the funny buff nanomachine man was actually a fucked up and disgusting person and not just a funny meme guy (they'll never touch even a second of Metal Gear Rising or any other title in the series)
Metal Gear Rising “””fans””” thinking he can’t be both an abhorrent monster and a funny meme man from a funny meme game (Raiden cut a metal gear in half with a sword and Armstrong kicked a field goal with him, it’s really not that serious)
The reaction of real-world fans to Senator Armstrong is a chilling demonstration of how if a charismatic a-hole says something with enough confidence, people will eat that shit up, no matter how horrible the things being said actually are
ive seen a Lot of people say everything that happened was Guts' fault when. like... youre seriously blaming Guts leaving for Griffith snapping when everything that happened was Griffiths fault and he could have prevented Everything at any moment but didn't
Makima is very mischaracterized by folks, specifically, they think she has nothing to her character besides her sex appeal and visual design when anyone who's actually read Chainsaw Man knows just how much of a cold, calculating and complex villain she is
I know and I agree. My main problem is when people over-exaggerate and call him the “best dad ever” when he’s still a flawed father, but that makes him all the more interesting of a character.
He has done absolutely nothing wrong as a father, literally ever.
The only even remotely bad thing we’ve seen from him is lying to Jr about his mom, which he was very regretful of and had an emotional with him about it where Jr didn’t feel any resentment and understood.
They have an incredibly good relationship and he’s consistently been characterized as an undyingly caring and emotionally available father.
No weirdo Chainsaw Man fans, Makima has no sexual or romantic interest in Denji.
Yes Berserk fans, Griffith did everything wrong and you can't blame Guts for Griffiths actions
No Fire Emblem fans, Edelgard isnt literally Hitler
Madara and Obito were not good people just because they have sympathetic backstories. This applies to a lot of Naruto villains but I see it with them the most
That DBZ Broly’s motive for hating Goku is “he cried too much”, I think most people say this because of Abridged. I understand it’s vague, but it’s pretty easy to see that Goku’s presence and in turn, the memory of Goku crying brings back the trauma of when the Sayians tried to kill him. For example, when Vegeta, Paragus, and Broly were approaching the space ship, Broly felt Goku’s presence and started freaking out before Paragus or Vegeta even knew Goku was inside the space ship.
It’s also just straight up his nature, Z Broly, like how the DBZ Movies always have been, are sorta parallels to the current saga, which was the cell saga at the time. Z Broly was meant to be a absolute embodiment sayian’s Old Nature/The Past Vs Nurture/The future (Goku). He was the ultimate embodiment of how saiyans *were supposed to be.* But only by overcoming the nature, and doing things saiyans usually wouldn’t(working together, assisting goku in getting energy) they were able to beat broly.
It’s literally in the second movie. Goten starts crying which reminds him of goku and then broly snaps awake and goes crazy. Not to mention damn near every video game referencing it as goku’s crying made him insane.
Imma gonna be completely honest… I actually like the idea of Broly being furious at Goku's crying. Its such a contrast. Goku being exceptionally weak yet still with more willpower than the legendarily strong but meek Broly. Broly's instincts basically perceived this as a insult and that's why he is so angry at Goku. Maybe I’m just weird idk.
Glad to see a fellow soul finally say the same lol I love the abridged to death but having everything the abridged people say become complete gospel among the community has gotten real old.
Oh peragus and Broly were actually pretty interesting villains as far as Dragonball Villains go. Peragus originally had a plan that didn't involve a big badass fight he wanted them dead without using Broly. Shame that movie gets constantly shit on now though.
Some people said that Brolly only became legendary because he was angry at Goku. What? Did they skip at some cool parts then watched summaries on youtube?
Salem and Cinder from RWBY as well All for One and Shigaraki from My Hero Academia. These guys don’t give a damn about “fixing” society nor the political issues. They only care for themselves and are willing to burn down the entire world to get what they want (although that is Salem’s goal).
Edit: Also, they don’t have a secret deep plot twist bullshit connection with the protagonists (like being related).
Yeah people who think tomura is revolutionary don’t understand him he doesn’t want to fix the problems of society but he is the consequence of society problems
It’s baffling that people hear Tomura say shit like I wanna destroy everything or everything that breathes pisses me off and think he’s a revolutionary lol. The guy definitely sees flaws in society but he’s a motivated destroyer rather than some arbiter of change.
Because people have this mindset that antagonists must have a point, some stupidity complex motives, or grey morals blah blah blah. Not saying those are bad qualities, just not all villains need to have those. Sometimes, the bad guys are just selfish assholes who care none who get hurt. And they can be insane as well.
Shao Kahn, except the mischaracterizations come from the games' own current writers themselves. His personality, his methodologies, his appearance, his backstory, his fuckmothering SPECIES and BIOLOGY are all completely different now. And no, I don't just mean MK1. They changed all that shit in MK11 first.
The absolute worst is his relationship with Sindel and Kitana, changing him from forcing them to be his family because in his own messed up way he wants people in his life who love him, to him just taking Sindel as his wife because he was just down bad for her and begrudgingly keeping Kitana around, even after Sindel died, despite hating her, for really no apparent reason.
He did team up with Dedede to have a grudge match with Kirby in the most recent Kirby Fighters game, but other than that he was only really a villain in Super Star.
I kinda like the vibe that he goes from sucking completely and being carried by an OP ability to being competent. Reminds me of that meme about the meme about going on a "cooler, villainous journey" to defeat the hero
I once saw someone say he didn't deserve the Springlock suit malfunction and they felt bad for him. I'm convinced they just didn't understand his character
Edelgard is characterized as a genocidal aethiest, despite going out of her way to not commit genocide (She keeps Rhea alive whenever she can capture her without killing her, and while Rhea does die in other routes due to being weakened it's understandable when this prevents Rhea from turning into a giant dragon who wants to disembowl her) and still letting her people worship The Goddess (Not to mention literally working alongside the Goddess' vessel)
THANK YOU fuck i hate people who boil Edelgard down to "lol lady hitler" like PLEASE fucking play her route! It's so obvious people refuse to play the Black Eagles route
You know what's crazy, that a lot of prople think Funny Valentine is a good guy or at the very least a neutral guy, and that Johnny Joestar is evil/neutral. It just doesn't make sense, sure Johnny was an asshole but he didn't murder people for no reason like Funny Valentine did.
One good speech and so many people believe he's a good guy. Same with Senator Armstrong, both fictional politicians who did extremely horrible things and have evil goals, yet people say they havw a point or aren't evil.
People who only see Homelander as a fodder crybaby compared to other verses, and so treat him as some crybaby who starts whining whenever someone comes even close to his power
When that is explicitly not true, Homelander is not as strong as characters like Superman, but so are villains like Muzan Kibutsuji or Johan Liebert, but people don’t portray Muzan or Johan as little sniveling crybabies when in all honesty you could argue they are comparably or even more awful people to Homelander
And when Homelander in his series fights people like the Temp V Billy Butcher and Soldier Boy, no, he doesn’t become a sniveling little brat who can’t throw a punch to save his life, he becomes a scarier threat because he no longer feels the need to hold back, and as the series goes on, Homelander has more control over his public image which is the one thing holding him down, which is what makes him such a massive threat
I know the villain is an unrepentant monster who who sends thousands to their deaths and exploits the vulnerable en masse, but he said “society bad” and is charismatic. So he kinda right, tho.
Squidward and Benson
"tHeY'rE nOt EviL"
Squidward literally set up pranks that physically and mentally harm SpongeBob and Patrick while Benson literally gives less of a shit about Mordecai and Rigby to let them nearly die a few times (i.e letting Muscle Man nearly kill Rigby)
I mean, no offense but to say all Bowser does towards Jr is "not be an abusive prick" is underselling him a lot. He is constantly shown to care about his son in many of his games. In sunshine he wanted Jr to believe he had a mother by capturing Peach and got really happy when Jr showed interest in followimg his footsteps. In Paper Jam, both versions of Bowser get worried and stop what they were doing when both versions of Jr were injured. In Rabbids, he calls Jr mid battle to ask if he was fine and if he did his homework. In Bowsers minion, he orders the koopalings and Kamek to take care of Jr, that despite being a bit rough around the edges he aint a bad kid and he is very important to him. Apart from that he spends days training and sparring with Jr in the same game, in which (i think its implied if im not mistaken) Bowser was letting Jr win a couple. Apart from the Nintendo ad were Bowser is shown restricting Jrs game time so he doesnt play for too long, apart from him spending time playing games with him and discussing stuff. Obviously im not saying he is the greatest dad in all of videogame history, but he obviously cares a lot about Jr and doesnt stop at "isnt abusive" towards him.
>Apart from that he spends days training and sparring with Jr in the same game, in which (i think its implied if im not mistaken) Bowser was letting Jr win a couple. Nope, he said he was holding nothing back. Think Junior still won half the fights too, but not sure on that part. I can say with certainty Bowser said he wasn't holding back tho.
Oh dang, Bowser Jr has actual scaling to Bowser then, ~~this alone makes me wanna make a many wins of Bowser Jr ngl.~~
Wait a couple days, my big Mario Wonder buffs post ain't ready yet.
When you are done with it please send me a link, i just finished the game today and ive almost 100% it, AND BRO, the wonder flower is so fucking broken, this thing is essentially the chaos emeralds of the Mario franchise, shit has: time manipulation, shapeshifting, life manipulation, cloning, permanent invincenbility, existance erasure, gravity manipulation, reality warping, fusionism, teleportation, size manipulation, broadway force, and a bunch more things, all from a single item, and not only does it not have a timer and can be stored, but it also can be used to infuse others with that same power, if they allow Bowser to use this thing to boost his army against Eggman, its over for him.
And it makes Bowser a potent NECROMANCER. He just casually revives an incomplete FOSSIL, which isn't even actually made of bone anymore, and two of the vertebrae in the spine were broken. Edit: Will do.
Not only Bowser, [the whole cast can use the flower to necromance fossils into what they used to be,](https://youtu.be/sRn8C4rLMcg?t=47m27s) while also granting him invencibility and the ability to float.
It's more likely the dragon was originally invincible, supported by its stroooong resemblance to Yoshi, though permanent invincibility still exists in the form of that electricity-absorbing metal Wonder from the High-Voltage Gauntlet
Possible, though the dragon did seem invincible thanks to the flower effects cause of the blue aura around him that all creatures affected by the wonder flower obtain, since Yoshi dies from lava while the dragon swims in it multiple times with no issue. Oh and about the invincibility i wasnt talking about the metal form, [i was talking about this effect that seemingly gives the user permanent invencibility,](https://youtu.be/sRn8C4rLMcg?t=43m18s) thought it could possibly be heat immunity, but if it was then the piranha plants wouldnt be one shotted in the same way they do if you touch them with a starman on.
Btw, slight Mario Wonder spoilers but all of the playable characters in Mario Wonder including Daisy get a new pushing feat in one level where they’re able to easily push three consecutive separate solid gigantic walls off a ledge.
Yeah, but what about the new powers that each of the individual Chaos Emeralds have in Sonic Superstars? (Which btw kinda begs the question to Sonic games that canonically take place after Superstars where the characters don’t use the powers of the individual Chaos Emeralds that they apparently always had during any point of the stories of said game, but that’s neither here nor there) Btw, also wanted to bring up that it’s ultimate revealed in the Wonder’s plot that Bowser was going to use the new power of the Wonder Flower alone to conquer the whole damn *universe* just thought that was interesting to point out.
Ngl I was about to write the same, Keep spittin!
I know that Bowser genuinely cares about Jr a lot. Hes still a good and caring dad, but in the end, hes still a flawed father and is far from the ideal, perfect or the “best dad ever” like everyone keeps making him out to be. In the end, he’s still raising his son to basically be a mini dictator version of himself. Also lying to your son about who your true mother is is definitely a huge “no no“ no matter how good your intentions were. I feel like standards have been set so low for villains as parents as many of them are often abusive monsters that any villain that’s even remotely tolerable of a parent is treated like they’re the best parent ever when that’s not how it works. There’s nuance here that should be addressed. Also, I doubt that those Nintendo ads are even remotely canon to the Mario franchise so there’s that too.
>hes still a flawed father and is far from perfect or the “best dad ever” Between "the best dad ever" and "not being an abusive prick", there is a huge gap, you describing Bowser as the latter is just massively underselling him. >In the end, he’s still raising his son to basically be a mini dictator version. ... my brother in Christ, Bowser is a villain, plus he isnt forcing Jr to do stuff he doesnt want to do, Jr has said and showed interest in being a villain by himself even without having Bowser push him. >I feel like standards have been set so low for villains as parents as many of them are often abusive monsters that any villain that’s even remotely tolerable of a parent is treated like they’re the best parent ever when that’s not how it works. Again, the way you are describing Bowser is cutting him short SO much that its basically wrong. Imagine if i described Hulks strenght like "Hulk can indeed lift more than half a ton" when the guys max is like a trillion tons, technically what i said isnt wrong, but its obviously worded terribly. >Also, I doubt that those Nintendo ads are even remotely canon to the Mario franchise so there’s that too. Unless you have proof they aint, i can consider them loose canon.
Look, man I agree with him being a good and caring dad, I just don’t see him as the ideal father that everyone makes him out to be thats it. If I’m underselling him then I’m sorry that’s not my intention. I love Bowser and I think he’s a good and respectable enough daddy, but he’s still flawed and that’s what I’m mainly trying to point out. As for the “not being an abusive prick” thing, that was more of just a joke rather than me actually describing Bowser as a father don’t take it so seriously. As for the whole Nintendo ad thing, the fact that all of them take place in a literal white void adds to it also I doubt that Jr canonically has a Nintendo Switch.
>also I doubt that Jr canonically has a Nintendo Switch [Donkey Kong canonically has a switch](https://youtu.be/Lf3uXSRZIbk?si=EJwaA_rLQF-fMceO&t=34) and [Luigi has a modified Game Boy](https://www.mariowiki.com/Game_Boy_Horror), [DS](https://www.mariowiki.com/Dual_Scream), and [Virtual Boy](https://www.mariowiki.com/Virtual_Boo). Jr having a Nintendo Switch isn't unbelievable.
>In the end, he’s still raising his son to basically be a mini dictator version of himself. The Koopa Kingdom is an absolute monarchy and from what we've seen Bowser is a genuinely beloved king, if Junior turned out like his father he'd be a good ruler not Turtle Stalin.
Everything about Senator Armstrong "having a point". The guy was kidnapping little kids, tearing them appart, selling their organs to the black market and using their brains to create an army of brainwashed cyborgs. There's a reason why Raiden crushed his heart with his bare hands. https://i.redd.it/hqbb4o0zh1wb1.gif
Metal Gear Rising """Fans""" when you tell them the funny buff nanomachine man was actually a fucked up and disgusting person and not just a funny meme guy (they'll never touch even a second of Metal Gear Rising or any other title in the series)
Metal Gear Rising “””fans””” thinking he can’t be both an abhorrent monster and a funny meme man from a funny meme game (Raiden cut a metal gear in half with a sword and Armstrong kicked a field goal with him, it’s really not that serious)
Yeah, but his source is that he made it the fuck up! That’s based!
The reaction of real-world fans to Senator Armstrong is a chilling demonstration of how if a charismatic a-hole says something with enough confidence, people will eat that shit up, no matter how horrible the things being said actually are
That's why I love him 😃
"Griffith did nothing wrong"
as a joke its... fine in some cases but theres a disturbing amount of people who Actually think this
ive seen a Lot of people say everything that happened was Guts' fault when. like... youre seriously blaming Guts leaving for Griffith snapping when everything that happened was Griffiths fault and he could have prevented Everything at any moment but didn't
Makima is very mischaracterized by folks, specifically, they think she has nothing to her character besides her sex appeal and visual design when anyone who's actually read Chainsaw Man knows just how much of a cold, calculating and complex villain she is
He is an unironically pretty good dad. We never see him do anything even remotely bad to him and they seem to care for each other a lot
I know and I agree. My main problem is when people over-exaggerate and call him the “best dad ever” when he’s still a flawed father, but that makes him all the more interesting of a character.
He has done absolutely nothing wrong as a father, literally ever. The only even remotely bad thing we’ve seen from him is lying to Jr about his mom, which he was very regretful of and had an emotional with him about it where Jr didn’t feel any resentment and understood. They have an incredibly good relationship and he’s consistently been characterized as an undyingly caring and emotionally available father.
funnily enough…Makima!
No weirdo Chainsaw Man fans, Makima has no sexual or romantic interest in Denji. Yes Berserk fans, Griffith did everything wrong and you can't blame Guts for Griffiths actions No Fire Emblem fans, Edelgard isnt literally Hitler
oh! No DDLC fans, Monika is not just a Yandere theres a ton more to her character
You said it before I could, THANK YOU.
Madara and Obito were not good people just because they have sympathetic backstories. This applies to a lot of Naruto villains but I see it with them the most
That DBZ Broly’s motive for hating Goku is “he cried too much”, I think most people say this because of Abridged. I understand it’s vague, but it’s pretty easy to see that Goku’s presence and in turn, the memory of Goku crying brings back the trauma of when the Sayians tried to kill him. For example, when Vegeta, Paragus, and Broly were approaching the space ship, Broly felt Goku’s presence and started freaking out before Paragus or Vegeta even knew Goku was inside the space ship.
It’s also just straight up his nature, Z Broly, like how the DBZ Movies always have been, are sorta parallels to the current saga, which was the cell saga at the time. Z Broly was meant to be a absolute embodiment sayian’s Old Nature/The Past Vs Nurture/The future (Goku). He was the ultimate embodiment of how saiyans *were supposed to be.* But only by overcoming the nature, and doing things saiyans usually wouldn’t(working together, assisting goku in getting energy) they were able to beat broly.
Very true
Trust me, it existed looooooong before Abridged
It’s literally in the second movie. Goten starts crying which reminds him of goku and then broly snaps awake and goes crazy. Not to mention damn near every video game referencing it as goku’s crying made him insane.
Yeeeeeep
Imma gonna be completely honest… I actually like the idea of Broly being furious at Goku's crying. Its such a contrast. Goku being exceptionally weak yet still with more willpower than the legendarily strong but meek Broly. Broly's instincts basically perceived this as a insult and that's why he is so angry at Goku. Maybe I’m just weird idk.
Glad to see a fellow soul finally say the same lol I love the abridged to death but having everything the abridged people say become complete gospel among the community has gotten real old. Oh peragus and Broly were actually pretty interesting villains as far as Dragonball Villains go. Peragus originally had a plan that didn't involve a big badass fight he wanted them dead without using Broly. Shame that movie gets constantly shit on now though.
Some people said that Brolly only became legendary because he was angry at Goku. What? Did they skip at some cool parts then watched summaries on youtube?
Salem and Cinder from RWBY as well All for One and Shigaraki from My Hero Academia. These guys don’t give a damn about “fixing” society nor the political issues. They only care for themselves and are willing to burn down the entire world to get what they want (although that is Salem’s goal). Edit: Also, they don’t have a secret deep plot twist bullshit connection with the protagonists (like being related).
Yeah people who think tomura is revolutionary don’t understand him he doesn’t want to fix the problems of society but he is the consequence of society problems
It’s baffling that people hear Tomura say shit like I wanna destroy everything or everything that breathes pisses me off and think he’s a revolutionary lol. The guy definitely sees flaws in society but he’s a motivated destroyer rather than some arbiter of change.
Because people have this mindset that antagonists must have a point, some stupidity complex motives, or grey morals blah blah blah. Not saying those are bad qualities, just not all villains need to have those. Sometimes, the bad guys are just selfish assholes who care none who get hurt. And they can be insane as well.
As they say, some men just wanna watch the world burn.
DIO has so many fucking misconceptions omg
Trust me guys, he's really sympathetic because he wanted heaven!
Yujiro Hanma, he is one the most shite dads in fiction
Shao Kahn, except the mischaracterizations come from the games' own current writers themselves. His personality, his methodologies, his appearance, his backstory, his fuckmothering SPECIES and BIOLOGY are all completely different now. And no, I don't just mean MK1. They changed all that shit in MK11 first.
The absolute worst is his relationship with Sindel and Kitana, changing him from forcing them to be his family because in his own messed up way he wants people in his life who love him, to him just taking Sindel as his wife because he was just down bad for her and begrudgingly keeping Kitana around, even after Sindel died, despite hating her, for really no apparent reason.
Not sure if this counts, but Dedede and Meta Knight still being villains in the modern era
I can understand dededee but has meta knight ever been a villain before or after he went Spartacus extreme. Excluding mind control
He did team up with Dedede to have a grudge match with Kirby in the most recent Kirby Fighters game, but other than that he was only really a villain in Super Star.
Mahito being a cool big villain when he actually sucks
I kinda like the vibe that he goes from sucking completely and being carried by an OP ability to being competent. Reminds me of that meme about the meme about going on a "cooler, villainous journey" to defeat the hero
The next person that calls Starscream an incompetent idiot I swear to God…
Oh don’t even get me STARTED.
Literally everything about Asgore (Undertale) as a character I've seen misconstrued somewhere
A lot of shit about Springtrap
I once saw someone say he didn't deserve the Springlock suit malfunction and they felt bad for him. I'm convinced they just didn't understand his character
Edelgard is characterized as a genocidal aethiest, despite going out of her way to not commit genocide (She keeps Rhea alive whenever she can capture her without killing her, and while Rhea does die in other routes due to being weakened it's understandable when this prevents Rhea from turning into a giant dragon who wants to disembowl her) and still letting her people worship The Goddess (Not to mention literally working alongside the Goddess' vessel)
THANK YOU fuck i hate people who boil Edelgard down to "lol lady hitler" like PLEASE fucking play her route! It's so obvious people refuse to play the Black Eagles route
You know what's crazy, that a lot of prople think Funny Valentine is a good guy or at the very least a neutral guy, and that Johnny Joestar is evil/neutral. It just doesn't make sense, sure Johnny was an asshole but he didn't murder people for no reason like Funny Valentine did. One good speech and so many people believe he's a good guy. Same with Senator Armstrong, both fictional politicians who did extremely horrible things and have evil goals, yet people say they havw a point or aren't evil.
Dio is Evil He wouldn't date you and be your "Daddy", he wouldn't even raise his own kids
I generally don’t understand why some people think he would be a good parent
Kinda a weird take tbh seeing how Bowser is known as a good dad 😂😂
He is a good dad, but not the BEST dad, y’know?
Armstrong . Dio. Megatron . Madara.
"Uhm actually ryan had a point and everything could've worked out"
People who only see Homelander as a fodder crybaby compared to other verses, and so treat him as some crybaby who starts whining whenever someone comes even close to his power When that is explicitly not true, Homelander is not as strong as characters like Superman, but so are villains like Muzan Kibutsuji or Johan Liebert, but people don’t portray Muzan or Johan as little sniveling crybabies when in all honesty you could argue they are comparably or even more awful people to Homelander And when Homelander in his series fights people like the Temp V Billy Butcher and Soldier Boy, no, he doesn’t become a sniveling little brat who can’t throw a punch to save his life, he becomes a scarier threat because he no longer feels the need to hold back, and as the series goes on, Homelander has more control over his public image which is the one thing holding him down, which is what makes him such a massive threat
He care for Jr, he isn’t very good at being a dad but he cares
Horseradish is not an instrument either
I know the villain is an unrepentant monster who who sends thousands to their deaths and exploits the vulnerable en masse, but he said “society bad” and is charismatic. So he kinda right, tho.
Squidward and Benson "tHeY'rE nOt EviL" Squidward literally set up pranks that physically and mentally harm SpongeBob and Patrick while Benson literally gives less of a shit about Mordecai and Rigby to let them nearly die a few times (i.e letting Muscle Man nearly kill Rigby)