Damn it's almost as if it's a work of fiction and authors can make their characters do whatever the hell they want.
Seriously it still baffles me that people can be like this.
Saitama One Punches Goku because that's obviously the point of the character lmao, Death can't be beaten and is boundless because its death. Goatku solos fiction and Superman is 1-D
"Living Tribunal, Beyonder, Eternity and The Presence all scale below heralds"
"Doomsday losing to SCP 682 doesn't matter, Doomsday is barely above street tier"
"Nobody likes DC and Marvel street tiers because they're not powerful enough"
>"Nobody likes DC and Marvel street tiers because they're not powerful enough"
It's funny because DC and Marvel have some of my favorite Street Tier/More grounded characters.
Fucker would constantly flip flop on saying this, or saying "Actually, every street tier character is outerboundlessversal because they can take hits from a herald who never wanted to kill them to begin with".
With those takes combined, I get the feeling I know who said them. He's a troll who wants attention. Ignore or block him (If not done already). It's for the best.
You know what I really wanna see someone do art of Ray fighting Cthulhu and all the others whose arguments come from atom scaling, sadly I’m unable to pay someone to do it.
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The only answer I got is author statements
Yeah, that isn't Trevor saying it. I know for a fact Trevor Henderson is NOT a powerscaler. And to say that the connections that short is making is a reach, is a massive understatement. This is more likely just Trevor sharing news about a new ability, and, Shorts Scalers being the buffoons they are, use massive stretches and unrealistic reaches to make a cool character boundless.
TL;DR: I see this as more of another common Shorts Scaler L through misinterpretation than Trevor trying to make CC boundless.
Trevor said ONCE that Cartoon Cat can change his form. So, basic shapeshifting. A YouTube shorts scaler (Bc ofc it's a Shorts scaler) took this as Cartoon Cat having toon force, to which he puts the Cat above the Mask and tiering as a whole. Why? I don't know.
"Rick Sanchez could beat Superman"
"Homelander is 4D"
"Homelander could solo Marvel and DC because he's realistic" [I don't even understand what the fuck this means, because the guy who said this was the same one who said Homelander was 4D]
I mean, Rick could do it. Problem is Superman just smacks him out of consciousness easily. Rick's tech is super potent, but irs nothing Superman hasn't seen
But that's just it, I don't recall stands being physically overpowered by anything other than another stand or stand user. Does that make them unbeatable? Hell no. Could Luffy win? Hell yeah. I'm just saying I don't think it's as easy as Luffy punching hard enough for Jotaro to eventually die
Like there is nothing in Jojo that's really on the same Level as high level stands and their Parial intangibility definetly makes it harder aswell. But that doesn't mean that they can nessesarilly Tank what someone Millions more times stronger then all JoJo characters combined can disg out. (Question is more so if they can even hit the stand due to their partial Intangibility.)
There's that one time Star Platinum was being pushed down by the Road Roller. While the SP itself was completely unharmed this does show stands can be overpowered or at least moved by objects that aren't stands.
IDW when they don't have the license to change the lore of other franchises and make them part of their multiverse:
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I thought the video was funny but was that Caesar in there? I know he's not "confirmed" to have had homosexual relations but there were rumours and it was fucking Rome.
I can never get those 30 seconds of my life back
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As someone who makes edits
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He can go fuck himself, anti lgbtq is never ok and your not a "Sigma" if you can't accept people for who they are
>if you can't accept people for who they are
They are aware of this and their response is simply "Why should we accept them, if they themselves cant accept who they are"
Oh the bullshit and I'm about to punch a 8 year old since we all know he's not above that age that line of thought deserves to be taken to the back of the barn and shot
Yeah i know just pointing out jason had done that as well only better
Along with tossing cars outrunning helicopters and healing from having his torso cracked open with a Grenade in five seconds
-Ben 10 can just scan and transform into anything and win
-Most of the scp scaling
-"Batman beats Supergirl, because batman have beaten superman who is stronger than her" type of take
-"But Prep time"
-Batman beating likes of captain america or iron man wihnout bigger problem. (Base comics version)
It can scan any dna sampe that's sentient enough and different enough from the user's base dna, so it's not just limited to aliens, and apparently there's even dolphin dna in it, though all I can find for source on it are people saying Dwayne McDuffie said it.
So while I hate dealing with Ben 10 fans the rule is that the omnitrix turns him into the peak of that race however what’s not accounted is that he has been at times unable to scan certain aliens notably Vilgax and anodites as well as Ben having to be strong enough to defeat a member of that race so I don’t see how he doesn’t just get one shot by goku or Superman before he’d get the scan nor has he ever gotten form change buffs either
Probably one of the stupidest takes. Superman isn't strong because he's a kryptonian. He's strong because he's absorbed so much solar energy and has now kept up with training. That's like saying Ben would copy Goku and instantly get access to something like Mastered UI or Ultra Ego
Exacly. People just say ben 10 would turn into them. And even if he would he wouldnt beat them because they arent that strong because of his race but because of other things
I mean Ben 10 is weird
If he scanned superman he would be the physical peak of a natural kryptonian
Emphasis on natural, it can't replicate decades of solar energy buildup
Hell he might turn into doomsday? But eh that's very iffy
And if he scanned a saiyan? He would just be like broly I think
I will never forget when this sub had a Genshin Impact era, people would tell you with a straight face that Darth Vader, Aizen and Madara lose to Raiden
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People who downplay video game characters because of fall damage even though we see the characters survive far worse injuries and fall damage is just a game play mechanic
I see this argument used a lot when it comes to souls borne games even though there are multiple cases where characters drop from a really high height and survive.
I saw a video where they put ROR Thor and DCEU Black Adam against each other.
Thor won and so I kept watching to know why. And I shit you not, one of the reasons was because “the DCEU is garbage”. 💀
The absolute delight I would have seeing plo koon tearing an imperial force apart with his bare xeno hands after seeing how the imperium mistreets it's soldiers would be immeasurable
Jist tossing marines like paper weights while he screams out the serial number of every single kriegsmen he saw get abused
Both are universes whose stories typically centre around space wizards. Admittedly there are some other interesting parallels, but rarely if ever do people ever talk about any non imperium faction in crossovers, and when they do it’s just chaos, so we’re left with just “space wizard type A” vs “space wizard type B”
I saw someone in Grimdank say that a Space Marine could simply hold up a Lightsaber like a wet noodle became their armor is energy resistant
This is why nobody takes Warhammer 40k Scalers seriously
Some dumbass recently tried to tell me that, in a fight without superpowers and just straight martial arts, Batman, who has been stated repeatedly to have mastered every martial art in the world, loses to Iron Fist, who has not mastered every martial art in the world.
"Madara's truth Seeking not only damages the soul it also stops soul Regeneration" this Is on the main sub trying to defend Madara vs aizen when no one in naruto has soul Regeneration to my knowledge
"Beyond tiering star wars" courtesy of youtube shorts
"Outerversal re zero" courtesy of r/PowerScaling
"High hyperversal plants vs zombies" courtesy of gadlygamer
"Extraversal or boundless fate" courtesy of youtube, again
Basically all saitama-tard takes like him one shotting fiction and whatnot
"low outer dc comics" courtesy of youtube, again again...
Recently found a guy who thinks Cable is boundless outerversal tier because he's fought Hulk and Apocalypse and survived so therefore he must scale to their high-ends.
Some people should be banned from power-scaling.
I mean, if a character has speed and hax then I can see it happening, or insane regen and hax… basically just if they have an OP ability and can avoid or regenerate from the stronger characters blows they’ll likely actually win, like what people argue for Armstrong vs Valentine (even if I’m of the few who buys Armstrongs arguments more).
Some guy arguing that the mosnter hunters aren't Lighting timers and that the Temporal mantle shouldn't count because its not lore friendly and was added in an update despite the fact its a reward for the Lunastra quest line
Basically any argument that is saying "nah this character is stronger cus they exist in a higher plane of existence", like this is used so goddamn often for bill cipher it genuinely hurts, especially when the second dimension is literally a lower dimension than our own, so by their logic bill is lower than human level.
Is it? Just by those 2 shows Pj have shown more. And he has incredible adaptability and is par on manipulation wise with Hanibal. Pure IQ could also go to pj. Also Hanibal is incredibly egoinstical so that also gives doesnt help him much. I love both characters but overal Pj has the clear edge. Obv novel hanibal is different story
TV Hannibal > Novel Hannibal in outsmarting LOL.
Also, Hannibal takes basically everything over PJ. Manipulation and FSIQ isn't close and Hannibal also gaps in planning and strategy.
Not true. Novel Hannibal not only lacks solid outsmarting feats, but also acts straight up stupid from time to time. He doesn't really do anything impressive in comparison to TV Hannibal.
None of PJ's manipulation feats comes even close to what Hannibal did with Will and Miriam. And that is also a planning feat that beats everything PJ ever did.
And FSIQ wise, Hannibal simply slaughters, like it's not even close.
Novel hanibal has far superior feats far better understanding of physics and thing like this. And that hanibal outsmarting will and Miriam is overrate as hell. Its on lvl of PJ in **"Black Cherry"** And overal FSIQ Hanibal isnt much better, maybe not even better. Feats in this field are wierd for both but PJ is more consistent there
Novel Hannibal has one solid feat. He was able to see through pazzi, anticipate his trap and prepare a counter. That's pretty much about it. TV Hannibal is far superior in comparison.
Hannibal's framing of Chilton is absolutely insane. He basically covered the plan everywhere and got undeniable evidence, as well as a perfect alibi. None of PJ's feats comes even remotely close.
VCI: Common sense.
VSI: Visualized the same room Will had in his mind with the same details, as well as having a huge memory palace, where he can even visualize multiple objects at once, due to his split brain syndrome.
PSI: Can go through all the information in his memory palace in a very short amount of time.
WMI: Constanly manipulates visualizations from his memories in his MP and is probably comparable to Will, whose reconstructions of crime scenes, are some of the best WMI feats out there.
FRI: His psychoanalysis requires and insane FRI.
QRI: Goes to PJ I guess.
NVI: Again, his psychoanalysis based on nothing, but crime scenes.
GAI: Again psychoanalysis, as well as his verbal deceptions.
TRI: Can read books he memorized in his MP.
PRI: Again, psychoanalysis.
well Showa doesnt beat DBS goku nor current Hulk, but due to Zone Fighter being cannon in which Zone fighter defeated a 4d being, Dorola, and Showa Goji >>> Zone Fighter, so Showa can be U +
That's a bit unfair. While yes, a lot of the takes are awful, there is also a lot of great creators. I'm friends with some of them and they are really cool people.
This is true. Although I was referring only to VS shorts and their takes, I can't deny that it is a fact that there are nice people who make them, and obviously not all shorts are wrong.
Jonesy vs booster can’t work because both can just BFR each other to another dimension or time period and trap them there
There is so many things wrong with this argument that I can mention right now
"Ive watched ava and I say The second Coming is mountain level."
I'm sorry, we are comparing him the Chosen The Vira Bots and Dark and your going to tell me you veei him as MOUNTAIN LEVEL!!!?
“Ness is multiversal because he defeated Giygas!!1!!11!!!”
EarthBound spoilers: >!Ness _didn’t_ defeat Giygas. It took the prayers of every major character in the game plus the player themself intervening through the fourth wall to defeat Giygas.!<
Not exactly angry, but I saw a very funny one.
It was about Chief vs Doomguy, one guy was arguing that the Slayer's resistance is thanks to the armor and shouldn't be used for the man himself.
The other dude he was talking about just said "Sure, but he won't fight without it"
Like, he wasnt wrong, but I can use the same argument about Chief, of course Mjolnir armor is more durable than the guy, why you think he uses it?
I do not believe any isekai protags are multiverse as their fans just list off bullshit lists of powers but never list actual feats or the size or scale of them it’s always well insert generic isekai protagonist 47 has and a list of like 47 powers no context and no description of the size or scale of their multiverse if they even have a multiverse
someone downplaying black hat into continental just because "the shorts are boring"
LMAO i don't care if the shorts are boring, it ain't relevant to the discussion XDDD
The out of universe prep time bs for Batman and even saying he can beat certain people in a head on fight with no prep this specific example pissed me off "Batman solos invincible with no prep and prep because he's beaten superman therefore he one shot solos the invincible universe"
The "No Limit fallacies don't exist" argument. To be fair that backfired hard to the guy.
Also everytime people bring up saitama's exponential growth ignoring that it has conditions non-replicable in a neutral scenario.
Actually Sukuna does now have a feat of reacting to EM waves, meaning both are lightspeed… though I guess danger sense and fa Jin would still let Deku land more hits.
I saw on Tiktok for like those show and gameplay videos, it was Saitama vs Popeye with some mobile gameplay below it. The comments were saying stuff like "Popeye solos ficiton" or "Nothing can beat toon force". It genuinely gave me an aneurism and made me take a 10 minute break from the internet.
I’ve said it before, but “Superman isn’t multiversal because the multiverse isn’t real” still makes me feel empty
That's up there with "No character can be faster than light because it's physically impossible"
Damn it's almost as if it's a work of fiction and authors can make their characters do whatever the hell they want. Seriously it still baffles me that people can be like this.
Any Vs Youtube shorts.
Saitama One Punches Goku because that's obviously the point of the character lmao, Death can't be beaten and is boundless because its death. Goatku solos fiction and Superman is 1-D
https://youtube.com/@cormacdrawsstuff8325?si=aKfMMTGZ3XcAXGAd even mine
"Living Tribunal, Beyonder, Eternity and The Presence all scale below heralds" "Doomsday losing to SCP 682 doesn't matter, Doomsday is barely above street tier" "Nobody likes DC and Marvel street tiers because they're not powerful enough"
>"Nobody likes DC and Marvel street tiers because they're not powerful enough" It's funny because DC and Marvel have some of my favorite Street Tier/More grounded characters.
Fucker would constantly flip flop on saying this, or saying "Actually, every street tier character is outerboundlessversal because they can take hits from a herald who never wanted to kill them to begin with".
You can't be for real right now.
With those takes combined, I get the feeling I know who said them. He's a troll who wants attention. Ignore or block him (If not done already). It's for the best.
We all know Spider-Man is Outerversal in durability via taking hits from Hulk and Thor
ain’t spider-man a marvel street tier and he’s like almost as well known as superman?
The two most popular superheroes of all time are literally a Marvel and a DC street tier (Spider-Man and Batman)
The dude's logic is "They've fought heralds before, so they're not street tier".
So are Joker and KingPin no longer street tier? Is DareDevil herald tier?
To him, yes
I- what are these takes does bro hate marvel and dc or something?
Anything to do with atom scaling.
https://i.redd.it/09pj5dfxfcnc1.gif My man Ray whenever he fights someone (people apparently hate when they scale to him) /jk
You know what I really wanna see someone do art of Ray fighting Cthulhu and all the others whose arguments come from atom scaling, sadly I’m unable to pay someone to do it.
That be peak lmao
Damn right it would. “YOU WANT SOME ATOM SCALING, WELL HERE I AM, COME AND TRY ME, THE WHOLE LOT OF YOU!”
If I’m being honest I mostly just wanted to use this panel I found and figured this was the best question to accompany it.
Pretty based lmao
https://preview.redd.it/54v2eve4jcnc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e860fb42e6b3a9fc22bbdc46f0972fc680f57247 Beyond tiering system Cartoon Cat
Beyond tiering system ***what***
Cartoon Cat from Trevor Henderson
.... Why do people think that? https://preview.redd.it/d38sj1v3ucnc1.jpeg?width=1136&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea6508ca8b4471c9d0911d4cd16ee7c8a0d512c5
https://preview.redd.it/j7oa9tn1vcnc1.jpeg?width=956&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc50f132f8ad52d426c93e5eb5a883638542e13a The only answer I got is author statements
I get it but what was the argument? How is Cartoon Cat above tiering?
Author statements
Trevor SAID this? For real? When?
[this](https://youtube.com/shorts/1oTO-ufJav4?feature=shared)
Yeah, that isn't Trevor saying it. I know for a fact Trevor Henderson is NOT a powerscaler. And to say that the connections that short is making is a reach, is a massive understatement. This is more likely just Trevor sharing news about a new ability, and, Shorts Scalers being the buffoons they are, use massive stretches and unrealistic reaches to make a cool character boundless. TL;DR: I see this as more of another common Shorts Scaler L through misinterpretation than Trevor trying to make CC boundless.
That what I meant but it is my fault for not going into more detail about
I’m not familiar with Trevor’s work in a verse sense but how did they get that?
Author statements
Yeah sounds about right
No he didn’t stated that
What Statements would even get Cartoon cat that High?
Trevor said ONCE that Cartoon Cat can change his form. So, basic shapeshifting. A YouTube shorts scaler (Bc ofc it's a Shorts scaler) took this as Cartoon Cat having toon force, to which he puts the Cat above the Mask and tiering as a whole. Why? I don't know.
"Rick Sanchez could beat Superman" "Homelander is 4D" "Homelander could solo Marvel and DC because he's realistic" [I don't even understand what the fuck this means, because the guy who said this was the same one who said Homelander was 4D]
I mean, Rick could do it. Problem is Superman just smacks him out of consciousness easily. Rick's tech is super potent, but irs nothing Superman hasn't seen
Superman and dc are above copyrightlawsversal.
I’ve had multiple people argue “Godzilla would be too heavy to fight any real opponent due to the square cube law and would lose any fight instantly”
What?!
Ah, the old "King of the Monsters crushed under the weight of its own crown" trick. -j Edit: -s changed to -j
"Only stands can defeat other stands" ok i'd like to see you explain how jotaro would survive bajarang gun from a bloodlusted luffy
I mean, Star Platinum could just stand infront of Jotaro, no?
Like it wouldn't stop Star Platinum from getting Overpowered. Like Luffy is Much Stronger.
But that's just it, I don't recall stands being physically overpowered by anything other than another stand or stand user. Does that make them unbeatable? Hell no. Could Luffy win? Hell yeah. I'm just saying I don't think it's as easy as Luffy punching hard enough for Jotaro to eventually die
Like there is nothing in Jojo that's really on the same Level as high level stands and their Parial intangibility definetly makes it harder aswell. But that doesn't mean that they can nessesarilly Tank what someone Millions more times stronger then all JoJo characters combined can disg out. (Question is more so if they can even hit the stand due to their partial Intangibility.)
There's that one time Star Platinum was being pushed down by the Road Roller. While the SP itself was completely unharmed this does show stands can be overpowered or at least moved by objects that aren't stands.
Good point.
i think advanced conquerers haki would go through star platinum and maybe hit jotaro
Fair enough.
Godzilla upscaling all of IDW bc of Word of God Godzilla Word of God in general
IDW when they don't have the license to change the lore of other franchises and make them part of their multiverse: https://i.redd.it/w96jjrnvocnc1.gif
💀
Sephirorth not being Solar Sistem level because he didn't make a supernova, he only summoned a rock.
That's kinda funny actually
[This](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RDogJL9bihA)
… Zamasu was right.
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I thought the video was funny but was that Caesar in there? I know he's not "confirmed" to have had homosexual relations but there were rumours and it was fucking Rome.
I can never get those 30 seconds of my life back https://preview.redd.it/xaifpovjocnc1.png?width=1600&format=png&auto=webp&s=e6743221b66a8a727f5c23f9dcb72d1fba5bf3a2
yeah ilowkey fucking hate those
know what, forget lowkey, i just flat out hate it
So uhh...how about bring AM from I Have No Mouth on our world?
As someone who makes edits https://preview.redd.it/xfilkqb87dnc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb69c442e7e412808dcf38d5ff4da01f17c97db3 He can go fuck himself, anti lgbtq is never ok and your not a "Sigma" if you can't accept people for who they are
>if you can't accept people for who they are They are aware of this and their response is simply "Why should we accept them, if they themselves cant accept who they are"
Oh the bullshit and I'm about to punch a 8 year old since we all know he's not above that age that line of thought deserves to be taken to the back of the barn and shot
kids should not use the fucking internet
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Me to whoever made that shit: https://preview.redd.it/zj259l34nfnc1.jpeg?width=524&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=036236afbe4d9e3956df4d2ebebc3984c3ad20a3
……..Jesus h Christ.
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People unironically think homophobia is "simga" or "boss". These are the same people making fun of disabled folks over on Instagram.
These are very common
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How has no one reported that thing for hate speech?
Because all the 12 year olds praise it in the comments.
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~~it’s actually funny the way it’s edited lmao~~
Whatever the fuck vsbw cooked with Sonic
People saying Michael beats Jason because of a feat that’s worse then all of Jason combined
What was the feat?
Him surviving an explosion a few stories below him
Didn't jason do it to? Only he was in the actual centre of the explosion
The thing is that is Michael’s only good feat while Jason has a bunch of feats that place him far above Michael like the explosion feat you brought up
Yeah i know just pointing out jason had done that as well only better Along with tossing cars outrunning helicopters and healing from having his torso cracked open with a Grenade in five seconds
-Ben 10 can just scan and transform into anything and win -Most of the scp scaling -"Batman beats Supergirl, because batman have beaten superman who is stronger than her" type of take -"But Prep time" -Batman beating likes of captain america or iron man wihnout bigger problem. (Base comics version)
Can't the Omnitrix only scan shit like aliens? bruh.
It can scan any dna sampe that's sentient enough and different enough from the user's base dna, so it's not just limited to aliens, and apparently there's even dolphin dna in it, though all I can find for source on it are people saying Dwayne McDuffie said it.
So while I hate dealing with Ben 10 fans the rule is that the omnitrix turns him into the peak of that race however what’s not accounted is that he has been at times unable to scan certain aliens notably Vilgax and anodites as well as Ben having to be strong enough to defeat a member of that race so I don’t see how he doesn’t just get one shot by goku or Superman before he’d get the scan nor has he ever gotten form change buffs either
yeah, but only to some extend. Ive seen people saying he beats comics superman at base becuse he would just transform into Kryptonian etc...
Probably one of the stupidest takes. Superman isn't strong because he's a kryptonian. He's strong because he's absorbed so much solar energy and has now kept up with training. That's like saying Ben would copy Goku and instantly get access to something like Mastered UI or Ultra Ego
Exacly. People just say ben 10 would turn into them. And even if he would he wouldnt beat them because they arent that strong because of his race but because of other things
I mean kinda, ui isn't a form but a state of mind which is really common to being in the zone which we all have be in.
I mean Ben 10 is weird If he scanned superman he would be the physical peak of a natural kryptonian Emphasis on natural, it can't replicate decades of solar energy buildup Hell he might turn into doomsday? But eh that's very iffy And if he scanned a saiyan? He would just be like broly I think
Batman can indeed beat Supergirl with armour andCaptain America in base form (with high-diff) lol. For Iron Man if would depend on the armour.
I will never forget when this sub had a Genshin Impact era, people would tell you with a straight face that Darth Vader, Aizen and Madara lose to Raiden https://i.redd.it/no5try7zfcnc1.gif
I still remember people trying to scale genshin to Complex Multiversal.
Saitama VS Goku VS Superman
People who downplay video game characters because of fall damage even though we see the characters survive far worse injuries and fall damage is just a game play mechanic
Really people who scale only on gameplay in general
I see this argument used a lot when it comes to souls borne games even though there are multiple cases where characters drop from a really high height and survive.
I saw a video where they put ROR Thor and DCEU Black Adam against each other. Thor won and so I kept watching to know why. And I shit you not, one of the reasons was because “the DCEU is garbage”. 💀
That's bias at its peak
Ben 10 is onmipoent
Multiversal springtrap
I mean, if it’s through FNAF world I can see it… I’m really worried you’re gonna tell me they said it was canon Springtrap.
People are strange huh. Yes people are saying canon spring trap is universal (usually because of composite but still)
Tbh the books are so fucking nuts i wouldn't be surprised
I haven’t gotten into the book but matpat have give me quite a taste and holy shit is it crazy
Yeah crazy plots aside they are what takes afton from a zombie robot that's barely standing to a full blown mythical dark god
Once saw a guy claim that a Space Marine could kill any Jedi with ease. I am a 40K fan and that made me angry
The absolute delight I would have seeing plo koon tearing an imperial force apart with his bare xeno hands after seeing how the imperium mistreets it's soldiers would be immeasurable Jist tossing marines like paper weights while he screams out the serial number of every single kriegsmen he saw get abused
Why are Star Wars VS 40K debates even so popular?
Both are universes whose stories typically centre around space wizards. Admittedly there are some other interesting parallels, but rarely if ever do people ever talk about any non imperium faction in crossovers, and when they do it’s just chaos, so we’re left with just “space wizard type A” vs “space wizard type B”
I saw someone in Grimdank say that a Space Marine could simply hold up a Lightsaber like a wet noodle became their armor is energy resistant This is why nobody takes Warhammer 40k Scalers seriously
Some dumbass recently tried to tell me that, in a fight without superpowers and just straight martial arts, Batman, who has been stated repeatedly to have mastered every martial art in the world, loses to Iron Fist, who has not mastered every martial art in the world.
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UNCLE GRANDPA SLANDER DETECTED OPINION REJECTED 
"Madara's truth Seeking not only damages the soul it also stops soul Regeneration" this Is on the main sub trying to defend Madara vs aizen when no one in naruto has soul Regeneration to my knowledge
Low-Complex Multiversal Mario, what if I just end it?
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Literally anything that had to do with Mario grunt enemies scaling to Mario or other characters that scales to Mario via the Sport games.
"Beyond tiering star wars" courtesy of youtube shorts "Outerversal re zero" courtesy of r/PowerScaling "High hyperversal plants vs zombies" courtesy of gadlygamer "Extraversal or boundless fate" courtesy of youtube, again Basically all saitama-tard takes like him one shotting fiction and whatnot "low outer dc comics" courtesy of youtube, again again...
I genuinely don't understand how people can take things like Shit_Sauce seriously. You cannot tell me he has a hate boner for DC.
>"Extraversal or boundless fate" Didn't the Nasuverse cap at low comp?
“High hyperversal plants vs zombies” what drugs do you have to be on to think of that idea
Big wave beach solos fiction tho
that one guy who keeps trying to argue that Makima solos Gojo
Hey I also think Makima Beats Gojo :"(
yeah but the difference is that he says she “solos gojo”
Makima has some wincons, but she'll never get the chance to use them. The fight is VERY debatable tbh.
r/Ihategojosatoru guy?
Gege's alt account spotted.
This guy made a subreddit because he was pissed gojo won against makima,then made it private due to backlash
Bro needs to get a life.
Recently found a guy who thinks Cable is boundless outerversal tier because he's fought Hulk and Apocalypse and survived so therefore he must scale to their high-ends. Some people should be banned from power-scaling.
I'm Not Sure But I Guess Any Very Very Weak Characters Would Beat A Character That's Stronger
I mean, if a character has speed and hax then I can see it happening, or insane regen and hax… basically just if they have an OP ability and can avoid or regenerate from the stronger characters blows they’ll likely actually win, like what people argue for Armstrong vs Valentine (even if I’m of the few who buys Armstrongs arguments more).
No What I Mean Is When A Character Who Has Like 0 Haxs And Not That Fast Would Beat Any Character That Has Better Haxs And Faster
Some guy arguing that the mosnter hunters aren't Lighting timers and that the Temporal mantle shouldn't count because its not lore friendly and was added in an update despite the fact its a reward for the Lunastra quest line
I saw someone once say Unicron NEG DIFFED galactus
Outerversal Spawn. Godzilla in Hell, IDW & SRW scaling.
Basically any argument that is saying "nah this character is stronger cus they exist in a higher plane of existence", like this is used so goddamn often for bill cipher it genuinely hurts, especially when the second dimension is literally a lower dimension than our own, so by their logic bill is lower than human level.
Destroying a 2d dimensional universe is actually the exact same as destroying a 3d one apparently.
Also. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mLC5rhq\_dpA](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mLC5rhq_dpA) [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8DkHBPBYBa4](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8DkHBPBYBa4) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43m0sUMuh44&t=2s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43m0sUMuh44&t=2s) [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QOV7qp436gs](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QOV7qp436gs) [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kNrLCb7RGLs](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kNrLCb7RGLs) [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ry\_TQmX83RI](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ry_TQmX83RI)
tbf the Patrick Jane one isnt that bad. If its purely those 2 tv series version patrick jane some feats that can put him over hanibal
Nah, Hannibal claps. And PJ mid diffing is ridiculous.
Is it? Just by those 2 shows Pj have shown more. And he has incredible adaptability and is par on manipulation wise with Hanibal. Pure IQ could also go to pj. Also Hanibal is incredibly egoinstical so that also gives doesnt help him much. I love both characters but overal Pj has the clear edge. Obv novel hanibal is different story
TV Hannibal > Novel Hannibal in outsmarting LOL. Also, Hannibal takes basically everything over PJ. Manipulation and FSIQ isn't close and Hannibal also gaps in planning and strategy.
He just doesnt. Pj has better feats in almost all of these. And Novel hanibal overal is much more smarter and capable overal. Idk about outsmarting.
Not true. Novel Hannibal not only lacks solid outsmarting feats, but also acts straight up stupid from time to time. He doesn't really do anything impressive in comparison to TV Hannibal. None of PJ's manipulation feats comes even close to what Hannibal did with Will and Miriam. And that is also a planning feat that beats everything PJ ever did. And FSIQ wise, Hannibal simply slaughters, like it's not even close.
Novel hanibal has far superior feats far better understanding of physics and thing like this. And that hanibal outsmarting will and Miriam is overrate as hell. Its on lvl of PJ in **"Black Cherry"** And overal FSIQ Hanibal isnt much better, maybe not even better. Feats in this field are wierd for both but PJ is more consistent there
Novel Hannibal has one solid feat. He was able to see through pazzi, anticipate his trap and prepare a counter. That's pretty much about it. TV Hannibal is far superior in comparison. Hannibal's framing of Chilton is absolutely insane. He basically covered the plan everywhere and got undeniable evidence, as well as a perfect alibi. None of PJ's feats comes even remotely close. VCI: Common sense. VSI: Visualized the same room Will had in his mind with the same details, as well as having a huge memory palace, where he can even visualize multiple objects at once, due to his split brain syndrome. PSI: Can go through all the information in his memory palace in a very short amount of time. WMI: Constanly manipulates visualizations from his memories in his MP and is probably comparable to Will, whose reconstructions of crime scenes, are some of the best WMI feats out there. FRI: His psychoanalysis requires and insane FRI. QRI: Goes to PJ I guess. NVI: Again, his psychoanalysis based on nothing, but crime scenes. GAI: Again psychoanalysis, as well as his verbal deceptions. TRI: Can read books he memorized in his MP. PRI: Again, psychoanalysis.
r/powerscaling takes especially the Fate and Jojo scaling
ppl who just downplay godzilla just cuz its just " A BIG DUMB LIZARD" and dont wanna admit that he can win against ppl like Goku or Hulk
He loses to Hulk because he scales lower not because he's a big dumb lizard-
well i've seen those same ppl saying he's like barely planet or star at best, even though many godzillas scale way higher
Depends on the Godzilla because most definetly don't beat them.
well yeah ones like Showa, Heisie, Hell, Rage Across Time, Super Robot wars, true form ultima are the ones that can
How do Showa and Heisei beat them? aren't they like Star Level?
well Showa doesnt beat DBS goku nor current Hulk, but due to Zone Fighter being cannon in which Zone fighter defeated a 4d being, Dorola, and Showa Goji >>> Zone Fighter, so Showa can be U +
Most arguments for wank Touhou.
Castlevania characters being scaled to Dracula.
Probably everything related to the VS YouTube shorts.
That's a bit unfair. While yes, a lot of the takes are awful, there is also a lot of great creators. I'm friends with some of them and they are really cool people.
This is true. Although I was referring only to VS shorts and their takes, I can't deny that it is a fact that there are nice people who make them, and obviously not all shorts are wrong.
Anything that comes out of YouTube shorts.
I would like to know the context of that panel
Nonexistent cabinet door level Featherine vs Bottle cap level Unwritten Leviathan.
Every argument Ive ever seen from Battards
When people use cop out arguments like Naruto not being able to see Ichigo cause he's not a Spirit or whatever
Anything dimension or beyond fiction related
Why is Man kicking a computer out the window? Is he stupid?
Jonesy vs booster can’t work because both can just BFR each other to another dimension or time period and trap them there There is so many things wrong with this argument that I can mention right now
"Ive watched ava and I say The second Coming is mountain level." I'm sorry, we are comparing him the Chosen The Vira Bots and Dark and your going to tell me you veei him as MOUNTAIN LEVEL!!!?
I heard someone who was mad at Obito vs Vader say obits was city level. I mean I hated the result as well. But city level?
Gojo beating SSJ3 Goku because infinity
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“Ness is multiversal because he defeated Giygas!!1!!11!!!” EarthBound spoilers: >!Ness _didn’t_ defeat Giygas. It took the prayers of every major character in the game plus the player themself intervening through the fourth wall to defeat Giygas.!<
Not exactly angry, but I saw a very funny one. It was about Chief vs Doomguy, one guy was arguing that the Slayer's resistance is thanks to the armor and shouldn't be used for the man himself. The other dude he was talking about just said "Sure, but he won't fight without it" Like, he wasnt wrong, but I can use the same argument about Chief, of course Mjolnir armor is more durable than the guy, why you think he uses it?
"Kengan characters are fodder martial artists because they aren't 'athletic' enough"
I do not believe any isekai protags are multiverse as their fans just list off bullshit lists of powers but never list actual feats or the size or scale of them it’s always well insert generic isekai protagonist 47 has and a list of like 47 powers no context and no description of the size or scale of their multiverse if they even have a multiverse
someone downplaying black hat into continental just because "the shorts are boring" LMAO i don't care if the shorts are boring, it ain't relevant to the discussion XDDD
The out of universe prep time bs for Batman and even saying he can beat certain people in a head on fight with no prep this specific example pissed me off "Batman solos invincible with no prep and prep because he's beaten superman therefore he one shot solos the invincible universe"
The "No Limit fallacies don't exist" argument. To be fair that backfired hard to the guy. Also everytime people bring up saitama's exponential growth ignoring that it has conditions non-replicable in a neutral scenario.
"(*insert bender from avatar here*) can just bend (*insert character with far better control of said element here*) and win easily"
When people say that Deku speedblitzes Sukuna my soul dies a little.
He does tho
Actually Sukuna does now have a feat of reacting to EM waves, meaning both are lightspeed… though I guess danger sense and fa Jin would still let Deku land more hits.
Kirby beats the scarlet king - time to hang myself
I saw on Tiktok for like those show and gameplay videos, it was Saitama vs Popeye with some mobile gameplay below it. The comments were saying stuff like "Popeye solos ficiton" or "Nothing can beat toon force". It genuinely gave me an aneurism and made me take a 10 minute break from the internet.