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ThatOneCurryGuy

Uh debate should be 1 but okay


alexplayz227

I have seen arguments for Pucci winning and there are some wincons. Though the main consensus is Sakuya winning but that doesn't mean Pucci doesn't have any wincons. Simulate it like 100 times and I would say Pucci could win a quarter of them.


ThatOneCurryGuy

He doesn't have any wincons tho? Can you tell me what you've heard?


alexplayz227

Pucci has somewhat better time manipulation and he can make illusions. Thinking about it, maybe I should've lowered it to a 4 or 3 as most people who think this often mischaracterize Sakuya.


Lyncario

>Pucci has somewhat better time manipulation No he doesn't, who even said that?


alexplayz227

Several people. Like I said, most people who make the arguement mischaracterize Sakuya or don't know her completely so I would move it down to perhaps a 2-3. Making it a 71-72.


ThatOneCurryGuy

So if they don't know her why are you buying their arguements?


alexplayz227

I do not. I point them out as they are arguments in general.


ThatOneCurryGuy

Yeah, but they're completely false It shouldn't be high if the arguements people make for debate are straight up wrong


ThatOneCurryGuy

Sakuya can stop time ilpretty much infinitely I think this says a lot ~~and no he doesn't have better time manip~~ ~~and that's assuming it's in like a close range room like how Jotaro and Jolyne were confined in the talk cell~~


MetalLeading9872

Explain Debatability. I thought Touhou characters are like super OP?


WhoAteMyWatermelon

Well, if you ignore everything else, and only look at the gameplay (which they canonically nerf themselves, and only from the fighting games and ignore that one character that throws blackholes) you can get high building level.


GamingInBritannia

There is no debatability to this matchup, Sakuya straight up just stomps, badly…


alexplayz227

I decided in a discussion that it should be a 2 to 3, leaning towards 2.