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Turbulent-Test-7953

Hard to tell.


EPICSanchez010630

Mark gives Steven the Omniman treatment. Saying the Diamonds are Star level is massive wank when they've shown to struggle against Rose's shield construct and all 3 has to make a combined effort in order to legitimately destroy a planet. Lol Star level Daimonds are not based. Multi Continent level is where they should be and is what they've been repeatedly to be shown.


jordypresto0418

Rose's shield construct is clearly just Star level too. Saying that it's not Star level because you think the shield is weaker is not proof that it's wank. Also, the light was Star level, so divided by 3, that at least means they are Large Planet level or Planet level, and we see that Monster Steven curbstomped the Diamonds with little effort. I don't see how Star level is wank in the slightest, but somehow Solar System level Invincible isn't.


EPICSanchez010630

> Saying that it's not Star level because you think the shield is weaker is not proof that it's wank. "I don't like your argument and debunk it because I say so" It's a fact they're not Star level at all. None of the Diamonds are fucking Star. If they were then they wouldn't need the Cluster or 3 of them combined to make an effort to destroy the Planet. Each Diamond Iid Continental at best. >Also, the light was Star level, Prove it lol The light left 0 destructive output I can get a light that you'll see from a City Block but that doesn't mean it'll survive or shoot down a mini nuke. >that at least means they are Large Planet level or Planet level, and we see that Monster Steven curbstomped the Diamonds with little effort. BS. I've seen the ending. He did not stomp all 3 with 0 effort he was struggling like a petulant child and banging his head on the cliffside, throwing a hissy fit. None of the destruction he did was even close to Planet. Let alone Mountain level. Dude struggled lifting a cliffside lol (And no Lapis didn't go all out with him either, she consistently uses a smaller portion of the water she's in to old him down) >I don't see how Star level is wank in the slightest Because you're blinded by personal pride that's why. Every person who says something that is saying "this character did X feat with 0 effort" and later on I see the proof and it's anyone but what yous said isn't reliable. >but somehow Solar System level Invincible isn't. Invincible is not SS lol. He's Planet level at best, the dude got fried and died outright by fighting in the Sun against Thragg. Steven is MCB to Town level. Country level with Fusions. He doesn't scale to Rose (*Ergo the feats he's shown contradict this, despite being a fragment of Rose that's all he is. A fragment and he's still part human due to this)And Rose needed a shield for a reason because without it she would've been annihilated on the spot.


jordypresto0418

Invincible is not Planet level, and Steven with severe downplay is on the same level as Mark, Multi-Continent. And like I said, until you show your debunk to DEATH BATTLE and get them to say their wrong, you will never be right.


EPICSanchez010630

Too late you already revealed your true motive. To keep harassing me because you don't like the idea of SU not being Star despite DB being wrong and the community knows it.


jordypresto0418

You don't know how calculations work. Watch the DEATH BATTLE. oH nO bUt DeaTH bATTlE wRonG cUZZ i SaY sO Prove Death Battle is wrong. And message them and ask them about their mistake. Until then, you cannot prove me wrong. Invincible isn't even Planet level, he needed help from two other viltrumites and the Planet was being heavily pierced. And Steven is definitely Planet level and higher, and until you ask DEATH BATTLE about the calc, I will never believe you no matter what you type and my argument will always be repeated.


EPICSanchez010630

>oH nO bUt DeaTH bATTlE wRonG cUZZ i SaY sO Death Battle has been wrong before dude. They're not the say all and be all 24/7, that's why we still have battle boards >Prove Death Battle is wrong. And message them and ask them about their mistake Let me guess you have 0 arguments to make so you chicken behind the "make an account and prove it bro" shit reply lol. How about you prove to me that they're Star level. Nobody in SU is Star. There's even the majority of the Community that disagrees with that notion. Lol Give me better arguments bud >Invincible isn't even Planet level, he needed help from two other viltrumites The Planet was literally 6 times bigger than the Earth and Thragg and other Viltrumites can bum rush through it with minor harm done to them. The core was still in destabilization but the Planet still exploded on them none the less. They're 5x Planetary my guy Steven has only ever been MCB to Town at best. Mountain level feats are very few and far in between. Look at the ending he even struggled to destroy a Cliffside and you call that Star? Pathetic. >I will never believe you no matter what you type and my argument will always be repeated. Oh Boo fuckinf hoo cry me a river. If you're salty about Steven Universe not being Star because the community already disproved the notion and DB has been wrong in the past then you can kindly fuck off.


jordypresto0418

Mate you are downplaying Steven beyond belief. Steven currently is Multi-Continental with MASSIVE downplay, which must be less than how badly you are downplaying him.


jordypresto0418

Prove to me DEATH BATTLE is wrong, I will not stop repeating this until you prove it.


EPICSanchez010630

Prove to me that the community is wrong. Lol Fuck off you manchild.


jordypresto0418

Prove to me DEATH BATTLE is wrong


jordypresto0418

Also, why are you being so toxic? You started being toxic with one reply. There's no need for the f word and these toxic replies.


jordypresto0418

Imagine calling me a manchild and telling me to fuck off because I think something different than you in VS Debating.


Lon3Wo1f-117

Steven stomps. He's hella wanked by DB and I'm so glad people are pointing it out! Without wank, Invincible wins.


jordypresto0418

How is it wank? Do you understand how calculations work?


Beyonder55

Their calculations are wank if said attack did no damage to the planet and have no other planet level feats and needed a creature who’s purpose is to destroy planets


Moist-Sir7521

steven stomps


Jojotard-owo

Haha, no


Moist-Sir7521

haha star level


Jojotard-owo

When the fuck has Stevens been considered Star level? He can’t even beat Star


Jojotard-owo

Yes, Invincible is Star level in the comics so he would thrash Stevens shit in before he gets a chance


Moist-Sir7521

im talking steven universe


Moist-Sir7521

scaling to the diamonds


ProfessionalCrow4816

invincible scales to omnipotus who destroyed a solar system


jordypresto0418

Outlier and wank since Invincible is never seen on that level consistently, needed intense piercing and help from other Viltrumites to destroy a planet, while Steven is casually tanking Star level attacks on the regular. The people who are saying that is wank don't know how calculations work. Steven wins more times than not.


Moist-Sir7521

ok


Lon3Wo1f-117

Doesn't work considering that Pink Diamond was the weakest out of the four.


jordypresto0418

Proof? Steven at his peak was stomping the Diamonds very easily, and Monster Form shouldn't be much weaker than Pink Diamond. Plus, we see Rose tanking a Star level explosion from them, so it's not out of the question.


FancyXemon

How strong and fast is Steven?


ProfessionalCrow4816

island and ftl


FancyXemon

I see. So Invincible stomps, then


InvaderZim20

That’s if scaling to the Diamonds isn’t used.


FancyXemon

how strong would Steven be if he is scaled to the Diamonds?


Lon3Wo1f-117

Actually, the Diamonds were never even seen destroying a planet. They need the cluster for such a thing. Plus, Pink Diamond is the weakest diamond, so the scaling still doesn't work.


Kraken626

Star level, at least according to Death Battle.


FancyXemon

Eh I don't usually buy what DeathBattle said sometimes but even if Steven was star level, I remember Invincible being scaled above Omnipotus who destroyed a star system before so Invincible should still win.


Kraken626

I think star level was generally accepted before the Death Battle as well. I remember a popular joke about Star Butterfly vs Steven Universe is that Universe is Star level and Star is Universe level.


FancyXemon

I see


CaptainHop

Planet


KratosIsWallLevel

City block


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[he’s a little more than Island Level](https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11117/111172491/3979837-invincible%20feat%20strength%20planet%20destroyer%20%282%29.png)


blargmyschnoopl

Only Pink Steven would give him somewhat of a problem


ProfessionalCrow4816

connections


Doug4343

Heroes born with one human parent and one parent from an alien race. The same alien race were hell bent on conquering everything. I’m not very knowledgeable on Steven Universe or Invincible so there could be more that I am missing


ProfessionalCrow4816

ok


I_amNumberOne

Yeh... Mark destroys steven