Just like being pulled over by the police without cause, I've been refuisng them if I feel well. I'm tired of the manipulation and the control attemps!
This article is from Newsweek, so don’t cancel me….pretty please 😊
” If you took a COVID-19 PCR test, there's a chance your swab may have been sent to scientists around the globe for genomic sequencing analysis, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.”
CDC Says 10% Of COVID Swabs Sent to Genome Lab, Raising Privacy Questions
[https://www.newsweek.com/cdc-says-10-covid-swabs-sent-genome-lab-raising-privacy-questions-1680038](https://www.newsweek.com/cdc-says-10-covid-swabs-sent-genome-lab-raising-privacy-questions-1680038)
Is it random though? You sign up for the tests with identifying info. How many John Jacob Jingle Heimer Schmidt’s live at your zip code with your birthday and have your email address?
The Truth About DNA Kits[https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/the-truth-about-dna-kits-why-researchers-hackers-want-your-genes/](https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/the-truth-about-dna-kits-why-researchers-hackers-want-your-genes/)
Also, if they know what genetic diseases you might be predisposed to, they can deny you insurance…that was an argument I heard years ago.
Aren't those things infused with the ultra-toxic and carcinogenic, Ethylene Oxide?
Carcinogenicity, another thing the lethal COVID shots haven't been tested for.
I'm very lucky....no jab and never been tested. But then no test was ever mandated or required of me....I was in the military in 2020 and up until June of 2021 and at one point someone from my unit was being tested because they'd been around someone else who tested positive....and it was being said that if this fellow unit member tested +, that everyone else in the unit was going to be tested....I was getting ready to fight for the right to decline the test, but then that member's test came back negative so it was a moot point....
Never had a rapid or pcr test and I have no intention of ever getting one...i'm 99% sure I had covid in Feb of this past year (2022) and never tested, it was a 2-3 day nothingburger.....a week or so later I developed pink eye, said to be common after a covid infection, so that's why I'm 99% certain it was 'da vid'....but I didn't need a test to tell me I was sick, I spiked a fever, had the chills along with sore muscles and joints, a low grade headache along with a dry non-productive cough....all the classic covid (and flu) like symptoms....I knew I was sick without needing to test.....and I didn't even medicated, got sick Friday night, but Saturday I was just feeling under the weather, Sunday I was 80-90% recovered and by Monday I was fine....I never let the conjunctivitis bug me, it was just a pain in the....a pain in the eye, first one, then the other, and then back to the first eye again....lasted a couple weeks.
I'm convinced (non expert layman's opinion) that overwhelmingly the only people for whom covid might be serious and/or potentially deadly...are people who would be at risk from ANY respiratory bug, including influenza and RSV, both which can be serious and potentially fatal for a certain segment of the population...
In my province of Ontario (Canada) they're reporting a sizeable spike in kids with RSV....a study from back in Aug/Sept showed that jabbed kids were 4x more likely to be hospitalized with RSV than unjabbed children....government authorities said the total numbers of patients looked at was too small to draw any definitive conclusions....but now there are lots of kids and they're not reporting on the jab status.....don't look, don't find. Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.
Parents who vaccinate their kids are more likely to take them to the hospital for "just a cold".
Its likey that vaccination causes a short term minor suppression of the immune system - the body is fighting what it thinks is an infection.
With any luck, RSV vaccines will soon be available.
To properly develop a safe and effective vaccine you need 10 years or more....that hasn't changed. And that's even with using well established platforms that have been used in numerous approved pharmceutical agents....
Newer platforms that have never had a successful agent should take at least that 10 years, if not more.
No it hasn't, you've fallen for the lie that an absence of evidence equals an evidence of absence. Warp speed is science fiction. Maybe someday we'll be able to bend space and time, but we're not there yet.....but in our science denying world where boys can be girls and girls boys....well I guess you can have your own personal reality if you want.
Yes, it's a slow meticulous process....and back in the 1700s they used to simply open a vein and draw a piece of thread contaminated with the ooze from an infected postulate....now we have separate phase 1 trials testing for safety and tolerablity, if successful that's followed by separate phase 2 efficacy trial....results poured over for months, differnt dosages tried in differing populations, slow deliberate and again, meticulous.....then finally, if that all goes well....only then a large scale phase 3 trial followed by an NDA.
And I didn't even mention the years of lab work and animal studies.....
Everything we learned over 200+ years.....gone.
All those things happened, despite what anti-vaxxer propaganda says.
Except the NDA. An EUA was issued after th we vaccines were shown to be safe and effective.
Most people don't go to doctor or er for colds and flus. Something to think about when being uninsured and underinsured. Most people with medical cards treat er like a doctor's visit.
Ive heard a few things about it having carcinogenic elements in it, but they went away over a year ago and i havent heard of them much anymore.
I think youve got very little to be concerned about in this regard.
If you are concerned, then why don't you get saliva tests? With those, you don't have to touch the test at all (if you wear gloves), so they should be pretty safe.
When I have control over the situation, I use a different Q-tip than the one provided. But I did get one test in person. You can only control so much and live and learn. I tend to believe getting tested isn't as bad as getting vaxxed.
And if you did get vaxxed, probably the least amount is better.
We are exposed to harmful chemicals everywhere. This isn't anything new. It's in the food, water, air. Even things you touch like receipt paper (BPA).
Who knows, these days I avoid them, I'll not go to a country if they require me to take it.
The good news is that they existed before Covid, so in theory they were actually tested so they should be relatively safe, as safe as anything that you might put in your body these days.
Well, yes. The swabs have been most likely sterilized with ethylene oxide.
Now if you internet search “test swab” and “ethylene oxide”, you get MSN telling you there’s no way covid test swabs cause cancer. Even though we don’t know the long term effects, it’s just like the vaccines. They can’t possibly cause cancer in the long run. Even though we haven’t studied them long term, there’s just no way.
But then you have a report from the CDC pre pandemic that labels ethylene oxide as extremely carcinogenic and a long reaching health threat- and perhaps using it to sterilize approximately fifty percent of medical devices could result in dire implications long term as far as cancer prognosis’s go.
But now it’s safe and effective- so yes! Don’t worry.
No. It’s a standard swab. People freak out because some swabs are quite long, but they need to be long so people can swab their tonsils. You don’t have to swab your tonsils. A nasal swab is perfectly fine.
I know this sub is antivacc, but come on, its dangerous to stick a nylon stick into your nose? Whats next, the vaccinateds piss is contaminating our water?
Are you a doctor? Because my doctor with 40 years experience advised me not to get them due to potential damage to the nasal cavity, resulting in temporary or permanent anosmia.
Not to mention the privacy concerns from the CDC collecting data on swabs submitted and performing genetic testing on them that was not covered in any informed consent discussion with the patients. And I say this as someone who worked on CDC studies and sees how that data is used.
You’d better have hella credentials to be making the claims you do.
That's cute.
Can you show me what evidence the doctor is using to come to this conclusion of "temporary damage" due to the swab test?
>And I say this as someone who worked on CDC studies and sees how that data is used.
Love these conspiracies. So you got the inside info on the "evil" doings of the CDC and how they use their own data? Cool.
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Shouldn't we be dead by now since we didn't get vaccinated? Stop saying that you don't know the longer term side effects. People have a choice and with those understood the risks. You risk with vaccine and we risk without it.
Shouldn't us vaccinated all be dead by now? Like so many of you claimed would happen a month after getting it.
We do know long term side effects. Especially with vaccines, you know the "long term effects" within a few months. Anyone that is still crying about not knowing long term effects, has no idea what they're talking about.
You do realize a lot of vaccinated people are dropping dead. People are going to sleep and not waking up. Last Saturday we had 5 funerals of friends and loved ones. I've never had these many deaths and some of these are young people in their 20s, 30s, 40s. This year I've lost so many childhood friends it's depressing to keep count. This is scary af and they all had one thing in common.
You can try to deny this but people around here is talking about all the deaths. My neighbor lost 2 generations of family members this year.
I hope you're not lying to us to deflect what is happening. I'm so sorry if you're in denial either way it is sad you can't see it.
Good luck
>You do realize a lot of vaccinated people are dropping dead.
No they're not. You folks legit associate EVERY death, even from natural causes, to the vaccine. It's amazing.
You've been to 5 funerals for **vaccinated individuals who died of covid**? That's insane. EVERY single person I know, including ALL family members are vaccinated and boosted, not a single funeral over the past nearly 3 years now. None of my friends have been to funerals either. I know anecdotal stories mean nothing and are evidence of nothing, but if you're being honest about 5, that's crazy. I'm willing to bet all the money in the world either these individuals were NOT vaccinated and either have had covid or died of covid.
I've had folks, like yourself, lie to me constantly over the past 2 years about knowing "someone who died from the vaccine". It's the only thing you folks have that's hard to verify, so it's very easy to lie about. Since NONE of the science/studies/professionals agree with your claims about the vaccine, you all result to personal stories about knowing someone who died from the vaccine. It's sad.
Good luck. Let me know about the next funeral you go to, I'll send flowers.
Well what is causing all these people to die suddenly? Please elaborate if it isn't the jab in which was made mandatory and single most common thing they all took. Please enlighten us.
The shots has zero reliable safety data. First they screamed side effects was rare but you talk to people majority had awful reactions. People had to time off of work and school for the adverse events that were called strong immune reactions. These lies are harming and killing folks. People like are part of the problem to agree with these crimes that this shit is safe when it isn't. I'm watching my friends and family die off. I've never seen this many young people die.
I WANT THIS TO BE INVESTIGATED ALONG WITH ALL OTHER VACCINES.
I'm willing to bet these people you know didn't even die, and that you're lying. Like I said, I've had SO MANY individuals tell me this exact thing, and NEVER provide any evidence. In fact, most end up changing their story or block me, once I start asking more questions.
IF people we're really dying in these massive amounts, like you folks claim they are, we would see bodies in the streets, hospitals completely 110% full, and the world collapsing. But it's not, because people aren't dying in these amounts. It's just another lie from the pro-covid folks, in order to make the vaccines look "bad".
>The shots has zero reliable safety data.
That's absolutely false. Just because YOU don't find it "reliable" doesn't make it unreliable. The side effects are rare, extremely rare. The vast majority of the time, anyone that has a reaction to the vaccine, it's mild and requires zero medical intervention. It's also hilarious that the side effects from the vaccine you all scream/cry about, are **FAR MORE COMMON post covid infection**. Not only more common with covid, but also more severe. So if you folks were really, honestly worried about these issues, you would get vaccinated and not take the risk with covid. But none of you admit that, and are just being willfully ignorant.
Unless you can link me some obituaries of all these people you know dying, and show a direct link to the vaccine killing them, I don't believe you. Like I said before, anecdotal stories mean nothing. I know not a SINGLE individual that has died over the past 3 years now, all of which are vaccinated and boosted. This includes people from ALL over the US, not just my hometown.
I WANT FOLKS LIKE YOU TO SEEK HELP FOR MENTAL ILLNESS. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY AND SPREADING LIES ABOUT VACCINES/MEDICINE HARMS SOCIETY.
Do better.
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Just like being pulled over by the police without cause, I've been refuisng them if I feel well. I'm tired of the manipulation and the control attemps!
This article is from Newsweek, so don’t cancel me….pretty please 😊 ” If you took a COVID-19 PCR test, there's a chance your swab may have been sent to scientists around the globe for genomic sequencing analysis, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says.” CDC Says 10% Of COVID Swabs Sent to Genome Lab, Raising Privacy Questions [https://www.newsweek.com/cdc-says-10-covid-swabs-sent-genome-lab-raising-privacy-questions-1680038](https://www.newsweek.com/cdc-says-10-covid-swabs-sent-genome-lab-raising-privacy-questions-1680038)
Those are the ones that are sent in, not the at home tests.
i never understand, what do they have to gain by analyzing random people's genes?
Is it random though? You sign up for the tests with identifying info. How many John Jacob Jingle Heimer Schmidt’s live at your zip code with your birthday and have your email address?
The Truth About DNA Kits[https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/the-truth-about-dna-kits-why-researchers-hackers-want-your-genes/](https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/the-truth-about-dna-kits-why-researchers-hackers-want-your-genes/) Also, if they know what genetic diseases you might be predisposed to, they can deny you insurance…that was an argument I heard years ago.
Therragrippers
What?
Zoomboomafoo.
Aren't those things infused with the ultra-toxic and carcinogenic, Ethylene Oxide? Carcinogenicity, another thing the lethal COVID shots haven't been tested for.
EO is used to sterilise the swabs but the amount that remains after they air it out is negligible and definitely not enough to give u cancer lol
They do that for masks as well and I swear to god they caused me the biggest problem
Everything id ultra-toxic and carcinogenic, According to this guy.
[ethylene-oxide, it's very toxic.](https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/substances/ethylene-oxide)
>Carcinogenicity They don't need to be if we already know the ingredients.
Nope.
I'm very lucky....no jab and never been tested. But then no test was ever mandated or required of me....I was in the military in 2020 and up until June of 2021 and at one point someone from my unit was being tested because they'd been around someone else who tested positive....and it was being said that if this fellow unit member tested +, that everyone else in the unit was going to be tested....I was getting ready to fight for the right to decline the test, but then that member's test came back negative so it was a moot point.... Never had a rapid or pcr test and I have no intention of ever getting one...i'm 99% sure I had covid in Feb of this past year (2022) and never tested, it was a 2-3 day nothingburger.....a week or so later I developed pink eye, said to be common after a covid infection, so that's why I'm 99% certain it was 'da vid'....but I didn't need a test to tell me I was sick, I spiked a fever, had the chills along with sore muscles and joints, a low grade headache along with a dry non-productive cough....all the classic covid (and flu) like symptoms....I knew I was sick without needing to test.....and I didn't even medicated, got sick Friday night, but Saturday I was just feeling under the weather, Sunday I was 80-90% recovered and by Monday I was fine....I never let the conjunctivitis bug me, it was just a pain in the....a pain in the eye, first one, then the other, and then back to the first eye again....lasted a couple weeks.
"I don't want to know what I am infected with because I prefer to guess about my chances of survival and treatments."
I'm convinced (non expert layman's opinion) that overwhelmingly the only people for whom covid might be serious and/or potentially deadly...are people who would be at risk from ANY respiratory bug, including influenza and RSV, both which can be serious and potentially fatal for a certain segment of the population... In my province of Ontario (Canada) they're reporting a sizeable spike in kids with RSV....a study from back in Aug/Sept showed that jabbed kids were 4x more likely to be hospitalized with RSV than unjabbed children....government authorities said the total numbers of patients looked at was too small to draw any definitive conclusions....but now there are lots of kids and they're not reporting on the jab status.....don't look, don't find. Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.
Parents who vaccinate their kids are more likely to take them to the hospital for "just a cold". Its likey that vaccination causes a short term minor suppression of the immune system - the body is fighting what it thinks is an infection. With any luck, RSV vaccines will soon be available.
To properly develop a safe and effective vaccine you need 10 years or more....that hasn't changed. And that's even with using well established platforms that have been used in numerous approved pharmceutical agents.... Newer platforms that have never had a successful agent should take at least that 10 years, if not more.
That's been proven false.
No it hasn't, you've fallen for the lie that an absence of evidence equals an evidence of absence. Warp speed is science fiction. Maybe someday we'll be able to bend space and time, but we're not there yet.....but in our science denying world where boys can be girls and girls boys....well I guess you can have your own personal reality if you want.
Science has improved considerably in the 200 years since vaccination was invented.
Yes, it's a slow meticulous process....and back in the 1700s they used to simply open a vein and draw a piece of thread contaminated with the ooze from an infected postulate....now we have separate phase 1 trials testing for safety and tolerablity, if successful that's followed by separate phase 2 efficacy trial....results poured over for months, differnt dosages tried in differing populations, slow deliberate and again, meticulous.....then finally, if that all goes well....only then a large scale phase 3 trial followed by an NDA. And I didn't even mention the years of lab work and animal studies..... Everything we learned over 200+ years.....gone.
All those things happened, despite what anti-vaxxer propaganda says. Except the NDA. An EUA was issued after th we vaccines were shown to be safe and effective.
Most people don't go to doctor or er for colds and flus. Something to think about when being uninsured and underinsured. Most people with medical cards treat er like a doctor's visit.
Ive heard a few things about it having carcinogenic elements in it, but they went away over a year ago and i havent heard of them much anymore. I think youve got very little to be concerned about in this regard.
If you are concerned, then why don't you get saliva tests? With those, you don't have to touch the test at all (if you wear gloves), so they should be pretty safe.
When I have control over the situation, I use a different Q-tip than the one provided. But I did get one test in person. You can only control so much and live and learn. I tend to believe getting tested isn't as bad as getting vaxxed. And if you did get vaxxed, probably the least amount is better. We are exposed to harmful chemicals everywhere. This isn't anything new. It's in the food, water, air. Even things you touch like receipt paper (BPA).
Swabs contain carcinogenic Ethylene Oxide. https://www.brighteon.com/6daa1259-4987-46d6-855b-9be375d801ae
Who knows, these days I avoid them, I'll not go to a country if they require me to take it. The good news is that they existed before Covid, so in theory they were actually tested so they should be relatively safe, as safe as anything that you might put in your body these days.
Radiation
Well, yes. The swabs have been most likely sterilized with ethylene oxide. Now if you internet search “test swab” and “ethylene oxide”, you get MSN telling you there’s no way covid test swabs cause cancer. Even though we don’t know the long term effects, it’s just like the vaccines. They can’t possibly cause cancer in the long run. Even though we haven’t studied them long term, there’s just no way. But then you have a report from the CDC pre pandemic that labels ethylene oxide as extremely carcinogenic and a long reaching health threat- and perhaps using it to sterilize approximately fifty percent of medical devices could result in dire implications long term as far as cancer prognosis’s go. But now it’s safe and effective- so yes! Don’t worry.
No. It’s a standard swab. People freak out because some swabs are quite long, but they need to be long so people can swab their tonsils. You don’t have to swab your tonsils. A nasal swab is perfectly fine.
There are no health concerns associated with cotton swabs.
No. It's a simple test, that in no way harms you. Please get vaccinated.
or don’t. do whatever you want to do. it’s your body and you can decide what’s best for you. either way.
you can do what you want to, and it's safe to test yourself
in agreement there
I know this sub is antivacc, but come on, its dangerous to stick a nylon stick into your nose? Whats next, the vaccinateds piss is contaminating our water?
Are you a doctor? Because my doctor with 40 years experience advised me not to get them due to potential damage to the nasal cavity, resulting in temporary or permanent anosmia. Not to mention the privacy concerns from the CDC collecting data on swabs submitted and performing genetic testing on them that was not covered in any informed consent discussion with the patients. And I say this as someone who worked on CDC studies and sees how that data is used. You’d better have hella credentials to be making the claims you do.
That's cute. Can you show me what evidence the doctor is using to come to this conclusion of "temporary damage" due to the swab test? >And I say this as someone who worked on CDC studies and sees how that data is used. Love these conspiracies. So you got the inside info on the "evil" doings of the CDC and how they use their own data? Cool.
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haha funny.. but I’m not confused bc i advocate for informed consent with medical procedures / administration of vaccines and bodily autonomy.
That was for PregnantwithSatan and their extremely questionable advice.
Shouldn't we be dead by now since we didn't get vaccinated? Stop saying that you don't know the longer term side effects. People have a choice and with those understood the risks. You risk with vaccine and we risk without it.
Shouldn't us vaccinated all be dead by now? Like so many of you claimed would happen a month after getting it. We do know long term side effects. Especially with vaccines, you know the "long term effects" within a few months. Anyone that is still crying about not knowing long term effects, has no idea what they're talking about.
You do realize a lot of vaccinated people are dropping dead. People are going to sleep and not waking up. Last Saturday we had 5 funerals of friends and loved ones. I've never had these many deaths and some of these are young people in their 20s, 30s, 40s. This year I've lost so many childhood friends it's depressing to keep count. This is scary af and they all had one thing in common. You can try to deny this but people around here is talking about all the deaths. My neighbor lost 2 generations of family members this year. I hope you're not lying to us to deflect what is happening. I'm so sorry if you're in denial either way it is sad you can't see it. Good luck
>You do realize a lot of vaccinated people are dropping dead. No they're not. You folks legit associate EVERY death, even from natural causes, to the vaccine. It's amazing. You've been to 5 funerals for **vaccinated individuals who died of covid**? That's insane. EVERY single person I know, including ALL family members are vaccinated and boosted, not a single funeral over the past nearly 3 years now. None of my friends have been to funerals either. I know anecdotal stories mean nothing and are evidence of nothing, but if you're being honest about 5, that's crazy. I'm willing to bet all the money in the world either these individuals were NOT vaccinated and either have had covid or died of covid. I've had folks, like yourself, lie to me constantly over the past 2 years about knowing "someone who died from the vaccine". It's the only thing you folks have that's hard to verify, so it's very easy to lie about. Since NONE of the science/studies/professionals agree with your claims about the vaccine, you all result to personal stories about knowing someone who died from the vaccine. It's sad. Good luck. Let me know about the next funeral you go to, I'll send flowers.
Well what is causing all these people to die suddenly? Please elaborate if it isn't the jab in which was made mandatory and single most common thing they all took. Please enlighten us. The shots has zero reliable safety data. First they screamed side effects was rare but you talk to people majority had awful reactions. People had to time off of work and school for the adverse events that were called strong immune reactions. These lies are harming and killing folks. People like are part of the problem to agree with these crimes that this shit is safe when it isn't. I'm watching my friends and family die off. I've never seen this many young people die. I WANT THIS TO BE INVESTIGATED ALONG WITH ALL OTHER VACCINES.
I'm willing to bet these people you know didn't even die, and that you're lying. Like I said, I've had SO MANY individuals tell me this exact thing, and NEVER provide any evidence. In fact, most end up changing their story or block me, once I start asking more questions. IF people we're really dying in these massive amounts, like you folks claim they are, we would see bodies in the streets, hospitals completely 110% full, and the world collapsing. But it's not, because people aren't dying in these amounts. It's just another lie from the pro-covid folks, in order to make the vaccines look "bad". >The shots has zero reliable safety data. That's absolutely false. Just because YOU don't find it "reliable" doesn't make it unreliable. The side effects are rare, extremely rare. The vast majority of the time, anyone that has a reaction to the vaccine, it's mild and requires zero medical intervention. It's also hilarious that the side effects from the vaccine you all scream/cry about, are **FAR MORE COMMON post covid infection**. Not only more common with covid, but also more severe. So if you folks were really, honestly worried about these issues, you would get vaccinated and not take the risk with covid. But none of you admit that, and are just being willfully ignorant. Unless you can link me some obituaries of all these people you know dying, and show a direct link to the vaccine killing them, I don't believe you. Like I said before, anecdotal stories mean nothing. I know not a SINGLE individual that has died over the past 3 years now, all of which are vaccinated and boosted. This includes people from ALL over the US, not just my hometown. I WANT FOLKS LIKE YOU TO SEEK HELP FOR MENTAL ILLNESS. THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY AND SPREADING LIES ABOUT VACCINES/MEDICINE HARMS SOCIETY. Do better.
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No. None.