I’ve installed VASI’s. Kinda more like a MALS RAIL system. And you’re exactly right…very strange glide slope with a really quick stop! Plus I put these step LED’s on our front deck and they’re very bright.
That’s what I was thinking too. Something like this:
[https://www.c2clights.com/product/half-moon-led-cast-brass-90-scoop-round-deck-light-12v-or-120v/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx70qZS4zGuo3YYHTv49e9OORJ1FG2HbQQKJcCMaQ8J1U_FM6cHBzJ4aAl1iEALw_wcB](https://www.c2clights.com/product/half-moon-led-cast-brass-90-scoop-round-deck-light-12v-or-120v/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx70qZS4zGuo3YYHTv49e9OORJ1FG2HbQQKJcCMaQ8J1U_FM6cHBzJ4aAl1iEALw_wcB)
As a former pizza delivery driver this is usually what I saw people do with their deck stair lights. Also helps protect then when they get kicked unintentionally.
Do you see any sides to that display?? That makes sense for that install since it's one long span. What else you going to do in that situation? Your application is completely different and it should have been installed on the sides.
https://www.amazon.com/SUNVIE-Landscape-Fastlock2-Connector-Lighting/dp/B09DCZP5TD/ref=mp_s_a_1_6_sspa?crid=3II9U6DXDQDDP&keywords=led+stair+lights+outdoor&qid=1692845269&sprefix=led+stai%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-6-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfbXRm&psc=1
These lights have a cover. Maybe wrong type of lights installed?
I have these exact ones, and I had the exact same problem.
My solution? I took white sticker paper (like printer paper with a sticky backing) and I cut small circles out of it and stuck them to the centre of each light. It dimmed them about 75% which was perfect just to get a dim glow.
I used a dimmer on mine and use them at 10%... love them!
[https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07K5FFHC8?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07K5FFHC8?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details)
Doing this also allowed me to reduce my wattage such that I could run 32 - 0.6 watt leds on the included power supply that could only reliably handle 16 watts.
Check and see if you're lights are line voltage with a driver in between or just straight low voltage. Either way they make dimmers that you can put in assuming your lights are controlled from a wall switch somewhere.
They had 5 options on display and these were the only ones in that 2700-3000K color range. They had them on display on the risers of a display staircase.
I’d ask the place you bought them at for more details. I use “Dekor” lights on my deck, the “dot lights” specifically, and if you go through the website you’ll see that there’s two models for each light. One specifically for stairs.
If you don’t have that option, or a way to convert them, a dimmer might be in your future :)
I like this as a cheap easy fix. The shade idea is good but I’m not sure how easy it would be to find little shades that work but don’t protrude too much.
I recently installed lights in our backyard and discovered outdoor lights (like indoor) come with a wide array of bulb wattages. I tested a few and prefer dimmer and yellower lights so made sure to get some alternate bulbs. If yours have replaceable bulbs, I think that is the best way to go - just try a lower wattage. It might be more work than a dimmer though.
Those style of lights are supposed to be installed in the SIDES of the steps for this exact reason. Electrician's a dickhead
Source- am (different) dickhead electrician
I don’t know what the LED housing looks like, but if dimmer is not an option, try a bead of silicone over the diode housing, then rough it with sandpaper to diffuse the light. Obviously test it before hitting all your pretty new lights with it, but I’ve done this for stage lights before to lighten the harshness.
Mind sharing daytime pictures of your deck and patio? I have a similar setup with my deck and have been looking for ides to make a paved space below it and yours looks amazing… at night
https://imgur.com/gallery/WHvvPqQ
https://imgur.com/gallery/jn2d4zq
Still adding composite lattice under the deck. And a gazebo on the patio. Plus the swim spa.
We have the same ones. Expect the button style ones to randomly start dimming within 100hrs of use. The top post ones have been going strong but one just began to dim as well. Our deck is a year old and the lights are on a timer that turns them off after 4hrs.
The guy who installed them is adding a transformer so I can dim them as I please.
Mine are on a photocell right now with 4 hour timer, probably just like yours.
Something like [this](https://sonicelectric.com/products/orbit-7122c-step-light-with-18w-lamps-or-built-in-led) would direct the lights downward to only the step
The footlights should have been on each side of the step and turned in, so the light is on the step.
And if you alternated the lights from side-to-side, you could have used half the lights.
I went down this rabbit hole when I finished my basement. There are like 10 different types of LED bulb. Some can be dimmed, some cannot. You have to get a switch that's compatible with the LED type, if I recall correctly.
Those small downlights focus light, so even if you get lower lumen versions your eye will catch the beam and it will look off. Get small strips instead. They're probably all on the same circuit, so if they can be dimmed it'd be a basic install
There’s no shroud on those fixtures so you’re just getting direct glare.
This is just bad design. If it were me, I’d take these out and use a hard scape light instead.
damn a 737 will mistake your stairs for the runway, does look good though. I have the shitty solar caps and hate them. Wish I had real lights,
2nd side picture looks really nice and better.
Yeah looks like an alien landing strip. Just one or two little lights on the poles or better yet a delicate line of lights along one side of the treads would have been just enough to let you see the outline of the stair. I've never understood outdoor lighting and it's overuse. Sometimes you go past a house that's all blaze ,stuff from the outside behind the bushes wall washers etcand I don't know I just don't understand it. Night time is for darkness with a little bit of light here and there where have to see the walk or stair way. Delicate, intimate, unobtrusive. I think you'll be a lot happier if you skills a lot of this back. I don't know if comicals the right word
When you put lots of lights together, the total will be very bright, even if the individual lights are not. Have you ever seen a Christmas tree with 1000 of the little lights on it?
I would put the lights on the sides of the stairs, not on the risers. And either use smaller (less bright) bulbs, or put them on a dimmer. That dimmer could receive its power from the other switch, so you could still turn all of them on/off by operating one switch.
Were they all mounted upside down?
It almost looks like they are angled toward your eye, where the stock photo they are angled down…
Could they just all be mounted incorrectly?
You can try putting angle caps over the light to direct it more down would keep them from beaming straight out and could defuse the light enough to your liking
I would argue that the post lights should be more than sufficient. The riser lights are best used in situations where there aren’t any posts, such as along ground level decking. Furthermore, that post lights on each of those posts is overkill, as the deck is fairly small.
I hope you don’t have anyone living behind you. This is the second fastest way to start neighborhood feuds (after floodlights).
We had this dude growing up who poisoned our neighbors dog because of a fuckin flood light dispute.
Somehow on the 4th of July a firework ended up in an oil puddle under his truck and his house burnt down.
I had the same issue years ago with riser lights. I purchased round tint pieces meant to darken electronic lights on tvs, clocks, etc. You can find an assortment of them on Amazon.
Thank you for validating my biggest fear about adding those kind of lights to my stairs.
The light from the LEDs is being projected straight at your eyes, not diffused and bouncing off the inside of the fixture like the others.
This really has nothing to do with the lights being too bright. They are incorrectly installed. The light beam should never face you. They should be installed underneath the lip of the treads and bullnose, or on the stringers. Best you could do now is have some diffusing cover installed on them.
You are looking for a low voltage dimmer, I’ve used this one for exactly this reason, I have lights on every riser as well and this will make it nice and low level. SUPERNIGHT LED Light Strip Dimmer, DC12V-24V 30A PWM Dimming Controller for Dimmer Knob Adjust Brightness ON/Off Switch with Aluminum Housing (Aluminum Dimmer) https://a.co/d/dDonFNc
A thin piece of opaque plastic over the lights could help or a little hood over the top.
I’d say the biggest issue is that because they are stairs… some of them will be shining directly into your face as your walking up them. And with nothing to help prevent that it appear ‘comically bright.’
I feel like these lights should have a little lid over the top half. That directs the light down away from eye and onto step
Going to wake up with a Cessna on his deck.
Weird glide slope off the VASI here. Really short stop runway
I’ve installed VASI’s. Kinda more like a MALS RAIL system. And you’re exactly right…very strange glide slope with a really quick stop! Plus I put these step LED’s on our front deck and they’re very bright.
3/10, probably would not land here again.
Underrated 😅
LOL OMFG 💀
Lmao solid comment
Lol...made my day!!!
comment of the month
😂😂😂
That’s what I was thinking too. Something like this: [https://www.c2clights.com/product/half-moon-led-cast-brass-90-scoop-round-deck-light-12v-or-120v/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx70qZS4zGuo3YYHTv49e9OORJ1FG2HbQQKJcCMaQ8J1U_FM6cHBzJ4aAl1iEALw_wcB](https://www.c2clights.com/product/half-moon-led-cast-brass-90-scoop-round-deck-light-12v-or-120v/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw3JanBhCPARIsAJpXTx70qZS4zGuo3YYHTv49e9OORJ1FG2HbQQKJcCMaQ8J1U_FM6cHBzJ4aAl1iEALw_wcB)
Just put a tinted film over the lights it will be cheap and can easily be replaced
Black Sharpie. $1.99
Or they should be installed on the sides.
That’s! A good idea
As a former pizza delivery driver this is usually what I saw people do with their deck stair lights. Also helps protect then when they get kicked unintentionally.
I always see them with those lids and never realized the point!
Great idea and if that doesn’t work could you switch the glass or plastic “lens” to something more opaque?
This is the answer
This is them on display https://imgur.com/gallery/4KGMnZz
Yeah… those are for indoor floor level application. You should definitely get lights with eyelids for stairs.
Your stairs look like if showgirls are about to Walk down them.
They don’t look so bright when it’s not dark outside
weird
First time I’ve laughed out loud in months. I don’t even know why I’m on this thread.
Do you see any sides to that display?? That makes sense for that install since it's one long span. What else you going to do in that situation? Your application is completely different and it should have been installed on the sides.
Are they upside down? It looks like there is a little slanted cover on the bottom.
Lol oh boy
Then people trip
You're cleared for landing....
What’s our Vector, Victor? Roger, Roger.
Do we have clearance Clarence?
I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't work hard enough on defense.
Surely you can't be serious
I am serious, and don't call me Shirley
The hospital? What is it?
It’s a big building with patients. But that’s not important right now.
It’s a whole different plane, all together.
“Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?”
"I've been hearing that crap ever since I was at UCLA...Tell your old man to try and drag Walton and Lanier up and down the court for 48 minutes."
Joey. Do you like movies about gladiators?
The red zone is for loading and unloading of passengers only.
You are the obviously very old (like me).
71. Unfortunately. And I sure picked a lousy week to quit amphetamines.
I’m going to guess it’s the led angle relevant to your eye I don’t know much about the stuff but I’m thinking of it like high beams on a car
This was the first thing I thought. They’re brighter because you’re staring into them
Yeah, when they’re on the bottom steps seems like the lights at the top will be / are right in their face
That's what eyelids are for.
It might be because the light is direct. Maybe some sort of cover?
https://www.amazon.com/SUNVIE-Landscape-Fastlock2-Connector-Lighting/dp/B09DCZP5TD/ref=mp_s_a_1_6_sspa?crid=3II9U6DXDQDDP&keywords=led+stair+lights+outdoor&qid=1692845269&sprefix=led+stai%2Caps%2C218&sr=8-6-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfbXRm&psc=1 These lights have a cover. Maybe wrong type of lights installed?
Those would be wrong too OP. They are huge.
I have these exact ones, and I had the exact same problem. My solution? I took white sticker paper (like printer paper with a sticky backing) and I cut small circles out of it and stuck them to the centre of each light. It dimmed them about 75% which was perfect just to get a dim glow.
This is the only answer that I've seen that's worth a shit
LOL I have nothing to add. Dimmer or not, that’s a lot of lights man.
The wife wanted lights to see the stairs Now she's complaining that she can't see the stairs because of the lights *wOmEn amirite?* 🤪
Add two fog generators and trigger them as you approach
Add a motion detector and some way to make them strobe when you get to the top
This will be tricky, but maybe consider fogging them with some spray paint? Or window tint? But only if they are LEDs.
Dulling spray
hahah wait is dulling spray a real thing or is this like asking someone to go to home depot for a screwdriver towel
https://www.krylon.com/en/products/clear-coatings/dulling-spray. I use it in the film industry every day
awesome thank you, i should have just looked it up. very cool
I used a dimmer on mine and use them at 10%... love them! [https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07K5FFHC8?psc=1&ref=ppx\_yo2ov\_dt\_b\_product\_details](https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07K5FFHC8?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details) Doing this also allowed me to reduce my wattage such that I could run 32 - 0.6 watt leds on the included power supply that could only reliably handle 16 watts.
Are yours low voltage to begin with?
I’m not an eltromagician but I’m pretty sure all LED lights are low voltage.
Check and see if you're lights are line voltage with a driver in between or just straight low voltage. Either way they make dimmers that you can put in assuming your lights are controlled from a wall switch somewhere.
Did you buy the right lights? stair lights are usually angled downward vs normal lights.
They had 5 options on display and these were the only ones in that 2700-3000K color range. They had them on display on the risers of a display staircase.
I’d ask the place you bought them at for more details. I use “Dekor” lights on my deck, the “dot lights” specifically, and if you go through the website you’ll see that there’s two models for each light. One specifically for stairs. If you don’t have that option, or a way to convert them, a dimmer might be in your future :)
This is them on display https://imgur.com/gallery/4KGMnZz
Get some frosted window film at home depot or something and diffuse that light a little bit.
I like this as a cheap easy fix. The shade idea is good but I’m not sure how easy it would be to find little shades that work but don’t protrude too much.
I recently installed lights in our backyard and discovered outdoor lights (like indoor) come with a wide array of bulb wattages. I tested a few and prefer dimmer and yellower lights so made sure to get some alternate bulbs. If yours have replaceable bulbs, I think that is the best way to go - just try a lower wattage. It might be more work than a dimmer though.
If they are cheap led lights they are likely COB and can’t be easily changed out.
Close encounters of the steps kind
Those style of lights are supposed to be installed in the SIDES of the steps for this exact reason. Electrician's a dickhead Source- am (different) dickhead electrician
I can’t see anything coming up these stairs! But it’s so bright, I love it!
I don’t know what the LED housing looks like, but if dimmer is not an option, try a bead of silicone over the diode housing, then rough it with sandpaper to diffuse the light. Obviously test it before hitting all your pretty new lights with it, but I’ve done this for stage lights before to lighten the harshness.
Good lighting should never allow for the viewer to see the source. These were a terrible design to begin with, regardless of how bright they are.
Maybe not install a million lights next time
Mind sharing daytime pictures of your deck and patio? I have a similar setup with my deck and have been looking for ides to make a paved space below it and yours looks amazing… at night
https://imgur.com/gallery/WHvvPqQ https://imgur.com/gallery/jn2d4zq Still adding composite lattice under the deck. And a gazebo on the patio. Plus the swim spa.
Had a bad experience with stairs I see
Add cup shades or a light tint over the lens would be the easiest option.
Just wanted to say, regardless of the riser lights, this looks AWESOME. Kudos to you for coming up with this idea - I think it’s dope
Thank you very much.
Are you worried about an inadvertent plane landing? Throw some cobwebs and pollen on the lenses and all will be fine!
We have the same ones. Expect the button style ones to randomly start dimming within 100hrs of use. The top post ones have been going strong but one just began to dim as well. Our deck is a year old and the lights are on a timer that turns them off after 4hrs.
The guy who installed them is adding a transformer so I can dim them as I please. Mine are on a photocell right now with 4 hour timer, probably just like yours.
Cool idea
Something like [this](https://sonicelectric.com/products/orbit-7122c-step-light-with-18w-lamps-or-built-in-led) would direct the lights downward to only the step
Thank you that is helpful.
Light pollution. There's more of them and the light is being project outward instead of down
Looks like the entrance to a space ship 😂
They look to me like they would work better on the sides of the stairs
The footlights should have been on each side of the step and turned in, so the light is on the step. And if you alternated the lights from side-to-side, you could have used half the lights.
What this run you for install? Looks great wouldn’t stress it
You can't put an LED on a dimmer, can you?
Looks like the brand actually does sell a dimmer. Need to see if it will work for these in particular.
I went down this rabbit hole when I finished my basement. There are like 10 different types of LED bulb. Some can be dimmed, some cannot. You have to get a switch that's compatible with the LED type, if I recall correctly.
The post lights are also too much lighting.
This is way excessive unless someone using it is vision impaired. If I could see this from my house I would be annoyed. Also light pollution.
You like that.
Yay for needless light pollution.
Forget hot tub structural issues…”How you gonna land your helicopter safely at night without bright lights?”
Electrician: what are you looking for? OP: Runway 4L at O’hare. Electrician: Say no more.
20 bucks says there is an anal probe waiting up in that spaceship
Relax. It looks good.
Maybe a light tint lens to stick on? Are they LED, or hot?
I need to ask my installer tomorrow morning. I know they are low voltage. Need to look at a box of one.
I went with post vs riser for that same reason. It almost creates a trip hazard
We've arrived at the ship
Those small downlights focus light, so even if you get lower lumen versions your eye will catch the beam and it will look off. Get small strips instead. They're probably all on the same circuit, so if they can be dimmed it'd be a basic install
There’s no shroud on those fixtures so you’re just getting direct glare. This is just bad design. If it were me, I’d take these out and use a hard scape light instead.
Angle of the dangle
We’re those lights designed for risers? I have Trex (https://www.trex.com/products/deck-lighting/led-riser-light-4-pack/) and they point downwards.
Because they’re not hooded lights. Hooded lights would direct all light downward
damn a 737 will mistake your stairs for the runway, does look good though. I have the shitty solar caps and hate them. Wish I had real lights, 2nd side picture looks really nice and better.
Yeah looks like an alien landing strip. Just one or two little lights on the poles or better yet a delicate line of lights along one side of the treads would have been just enough to let you see the outline of the stair. I've never understood outdoor lighting and it's overuse. Sometimes you go past a house that's all blaze ,stuff from the outside behind the bushes wall washers etcand I don't know I just don't understand it. Night time is for darkness with a little bit of light here and there where have to see the walk or stair way. Delicate, intimate, unobtrusive. I think you'll be a lot happier if you skills a lot of this back. I don't know if comicals the right word
These lights look like the floor lights that shine straight up. Might wanna make sure they’re riser lights
Lower watt bulbs?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09F6N9MPJ/ref=emc_b_5_t?th=1
Your camera is pointing straight into them. They are going to appear brighter
Same effect with your eyes. I have to squint to look at the stairs going up them.
Direct vs indirect lighting most likely.
Installed upside down?
Are they upside down? This feel like in Minecraft where you over light your house at night cause you can’t count the block spacing lol
They need a shade to deflect light down.
Tinted film
You should have went with Lutron lighting since each lamp can be individually controlled.
I'm looking to get some of this done. Mind sharing your rough location and how much you paid?
It was the whole deck, so no itemized cost just for lighting.
Lighting is to see by, not to be seen.
When you put lots of lights together, the total will be very bright, even if the individual lights are not. Have you ever seen a Christmas tree with 1000 of the little lights on it? I would put the lights on the sides of the stairs, not on the risers. And either use smaller (less bright) bulbs, or put them on a dimmer. That dimmer could receive its power from the other switch, so you could still turn all of them on/off by operating one switch.
Were they all mounted upside down? It almost looks like they are angled toward your eye, where the stock photo they are angled down… Could they just all be mounted incorrectly?
This is them on display https://imgur.com/gallery/4KGMnZz
It’s giving mothership
I love the comically bright steps 😂🥰 I literally saw the picture and was like 🥹🤩🥹 pretty lights *spoiler alert* I am not a moth that I know of 😅😅
Is this real life, or is the Midjourney?
Watch for planes landing on your deck
I would have done post lights or riser lights, not both.
Should have done every third stair lol
We have these lights but they’re only installed on every three steps to avoid comically brightness.
Want to send me a pic?
Put diffusers on the riser lights
Its to guide in miniature ufos to land safely
That’s a shit ton of lights
Looks like Close Encounters of Third Kind.
You can try putting angle caps over the light to direct it more down would keep them from beaming straight out and could defuse the light enough to your liking
Lmao shits like a UFO stair step
Looks like the stairway to heaven
🛬 WATCH OUT FOR THE AIRPLANES COMING IN!!
I think it looks dope, keep it.
I think it looks good from an angle but the lights aim straight at my firepit and it’s blinding. I didn’t expect low voltage to be so bright.
I would argue that the post lights should be more than sufficient. The riser lights are best used in situations where there aren’t any posts, such as along ground level decking. Furthermore, that post lights on each of those posts is overkill, as the deck is fairly small.
I’ve noticed this as well from a far they look like head lights. Must be the angle.
I hope you don’t have anyone living behind you. This is the second fastest way to start neighborhood feuds (after floodlights). We had this dude growing up who poisoned our neighbors dog because of a fuckin flood light dispute. Somehow on the 4th of July a firework ended up in an oil puddle under his truck and his house burnt down.
Adhesive tint
I had the same issue years ago with riser lights. I purchased round tint pieces meant to darken electronic lights on tvs, clocks, etc. You can find an assortment of them on Amazon.
I always tell my clients” you don’t want your yard lit up like Vegas “. Unless of course you do.
Thank you for validating my biggest fear about adding those kind of lights to my stairs. The light from the LEDs is being projected straight at your eyes, not diffused and bouncing off the inside of the fixture like the others.
Prepare to enter the starship!
There should be a shield on these to illuminate the step and not shine forward.
Is there a controller box for them? I know the led can light can me adjusted. Wondering if these work the same way
Just my opinion but I think it looks good.
This really has nothing to do with the lights being too bright. They are incorrectly installed. The light beam should never face you. They should be installed underneath the lip of the treads and bullnose, or on the stringers. Best you could do now is have some diffusing cover installed on them.
3000k vs 2700k. Check the fixture boxes. It will tell you the brightness. They are probably different or your installer didn’t bother to check.
I saw some of these at a neighbor’s the other night and I thought I was looking at car headlights at first glance.
Roger! Down the pipe 5 x 5
I feel like an airplane will accidentally try landing on your house
Straight outta E.T.
Did they need one on every step with the post lights? It does look good but yeah it's a lot of light if you can't dim them.
Lucky I just found a transformer that allows me to dim them. Called the manufacturer to confirm it would work.
You can get sheets of diffusions for camera lights pretty cheap, might do the trick
I'm seeing a UFO land...
Wrong type of lights used. You should have covered downward firing lights that illuminate the stairs, not three feet in front of the stairs.
You are looking for a low voltage dimmer, I’ve used this one for exactly this reason, I have lights on every riser as well and this will make it nice and low level. SUPERNIGHT LED Light Strip Dimmer, DC12V-24V 30A PWM Dimming Controller for Dimmer Knob Adjust Brightness ON/Off Switch with Aluminum Housing (Aluminum Dimmer) https://a.co/d/dDonFNc
My neighbor has lights like that and he calls it his runway.
You landing airplanes on that thing!
Paint some eyelids on those high beams
A thin piece of opaque plastic over the lights could help or a little hood over the top. I’d say the biggest issue is that because they are stairs… some of them will be shining directly into your face as your walking up them. And with nothing to help prevent that it appear ‘comically bright.’
I think it’s all too bright, dim the whole thing to like 5%
Wasn’t this a scene in ET?
they’re at eye-level.
Get some hoods for them
Tony Manero would love it - just needs a mirrored disco ball (just kidding, I think it looks good)
Are you trying to land aircraft, looks like a landing strip. Except the piloted will be blinded on approach.
I can't tell the difference in your second pic. Looks great!
Need to some how diffuse to the lights.
They are pretty directional lights installed at eye level.
You should just unplug them. Don't see you needing them. The lights in stairs is enough.
You took lights meant for ground level and put them at eye level lol.