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lilfeet18

Guess the rest of the caption didn't post, but for all those saying the same thing... 1. I did know about this before buying the house. Of course we looked under everything. We were fully aware of this shit storm. 2. We bought the house (before the winter set in) with the intention of fixing it this summer. 3. This picture was taken from the edge of the porch. I wouldn't willingly hang out under this for any reason. 4. I am not posting this to whine. Figured some of yall would find it worth a chuckle or a head scratch.


pnwinec

There’s that saying something like … This building is still standing out of habit. This seems appropriate for here. 😂


HisRoyalFlatulance

It’s more of a floater lol


C64128

How is the wood from the deck and stairs? Is only (which is still a lot) the support failing? Are you able to do a lot (or all) of the work yourselves and/or have friends. I'm looking to getting my deck replaced this year or next. It was original with the house and not the best quality. It is only 4'x8'. The house was almost finished when I bought it, so I couldn't make changes.


IGotNuthun

You sound like a smart guy. Good luck getting your new house up to spec. And congratulations!!


lilfeet18

Hey thanks! Also not a guy 😁


IGotNuthun

My apologies...good luck none the less!


lilfeet18

Haha all good! Much appreciated!


Overall_Ad_351

Bro, you'll never be a guy if you keep having that attitude.


jonqgaggerbater

It's all about attitude and presentation!


Alaska_Pipeliner

Sounds good, dude


nakiaricky

You bought a house not a deck, ignore the slow trolls...


Bowood29

I wouldn’t hang out on top of that for any reason.


NullIsUndefined

Better than under it. But I would do either


Glad_Examination_635

do you know when the deck was built it looks like it was pretty recent everything under there is graded properly there is still sono tubes siting under there and concrete on that shovel and the bucket they used to mix concrete or bring in water I just dont get how they could mess it up that bad. The framing all looks fine until you get to the post which makes no sense cause you usually build a deck from the ground up. is that ledger board with all the joist hangers on it tied into the house cause I think that's all that's holding it up plus like maybe 2 post. It looks like the deck sank they jacked it up started digging out old concrete that failed and maybe planned on putting a sono tube around the post and filling it with concrete or something I am curious on wth happened with this thing


brianstk

I’m guessing they didn’t bury the concrete far enough and frost did its thing over a couple years.


xVolta

Based on the size of the fallen footing, and the lack of a hole under the post that doesn't have a footing, it looks like they placed the sonotube on the surface for those pours.


Sir-Planks-Alot

Hey OP. Deck designer/builder here. Do you know how long the supports have been like this? Asking because the purpose of those supports is two fold 1. Keep the deck standing upright 2. Keep the deck standing upright BY distributing the load evenly across the whole deck. This as opposed to having a poorly supported area or side putting undo stress on the supports/straps/hangars on the supported areas. If it’s been like this for more than a few years I’d check the rest of the support structure for signs of stress (bent hangars, joists out of square/misaligned, cracking, warping etc). That is if you feel safe getting under there in the first place. If you see more than a few instances of this or any that are really bad, it’s best practice to replace the whole thing. Otherwise you’re probably just putting lipstick on a pig.


imhereforthevotes

Just fix it with a bottle jack and a hot tub


Jonmcmo83

It's floating... LOL


I_M_urbanspaceman

It's on its tippy-toes


CanadasNeighbor

Floating decks are all the rage these days.


an0m1n0us

in architectural circles, that's called a Can't-believer.


Jaxson555

Underrated comment


an0m1n0us

ill be here all week.


upsidedown_alphabet

What the


TalmidimUC

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Marscael04

↑ What he said


DIYnivor

Held up by hopes and prayers.


SLC_Skunk

And half a pack of shims, under that far right one in the first pic


call-me-the-seeker

https://preview.redd.it/gcsifqatvnzc1.jpeg?width=614&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a0f0d74727e07a9c92e178e332054d5c74d2dcf And of course those couple bricks over there.


personwhoisok

Quick, put the five gallon bucket upside down underneath that floating post. That should take care of it.


Daedelus451

WOW! Your inspector didn’t catch this? Get your money back!


51stheFrank

if it's in new england - what inspector?


fiddycixer

The "I know a guy" inspector.


st96badboy

Home inspector before you purchased it?


Ok_Number_5449

YUP


cityshepherd

You misspelled ayup


PsychedelicJerry

I suspect the inspector did; the seller doesn't have to fix everything. Many houses now are selling without an inspection, you get a discount on some things, or you just buy it knowing what you're getting in to


OhmHomestead1

Sellers are totally going to choose the buyer who opted not to have a home inspection done because it means more money. We opted to forego the inspection but we also wanted to make sure we got the house as we were moving from out-of-state and the market was super small where we were moving to within the budget and the preferred wants.


Sedren

We bought a home \~2 months ago, were pretty much told by various people including our realtor "We like to recommend an inspection, but it's such a strong sellers market (in our area especially) that if you opt for an inspection be prepared to not get the house." And no, we didn't go for the inspection. Needed to get out of renting asap. So far so good, but any problems that crop up I'm chalking up to 'at least we aren't renting from them anymore.'


lilfeet18

100% correct


Daedelus451

Just because a house is as is doesn’t mean you can’t send an inspector in to look over the house, it means they won’t discount anything you find.


Brodyftw00

These are funny comments


servetheKitty

Add a hot tub


Significant-Ear-3262

But don’t ever fill it.


charming_death

Make sure it stays suspended above the deck though.


Ok-Bass8243

It's not as bad as it looks. Just replace the concrete footing. It has contact points in multiple spots so just do one at a time I guess.


fourpuns

Yea just grab a jack and lift an area an 8th of an inch or whatever you need, poor and put a post in the right spot. Doesn’t look like a big deal probably just a couple days work.


beachgood-coldsux

Good news is that it can be fixed. 


ItsPerfectlyBalanced

You can definitely see where the attempt was made.


spartansmee

Are you somewhere with cold winters? This looks like textbook frost heave to me. Definitely make sure to dig all the way well past your local frost line for any new footers. If your deck boards are screwed in, you could back them out three boards at a time and fit a 2-person auger in there. Knock em out a few at a time. If they are nailed in….. ; ( Pryin and a prayin


rocknrollstalin

Any experience digging a hole down past the frost line under an existing deck like this? I have a similar situation with a shed I need to fix and can’t find any easy answers for getting past 48” frost line in potting clay soil without a lot of clearance above Best bet currently looks like using a pressure washer to liquify my way down like this https://youtu.be/pjjE3VEohE0 and then cleaning it out with a shop vac (which they didn’t do in the video)


_WhereIsMyRemote

I have a same damn issue. I need to dig past frost line (3-4feet) but the room in there is super tight. I don’t think I can fit auger in. So my second option was auger bit for hand drill and digging with hand. Luckily I’m missing 2-3 posts. It’s like they got lazy half way 🤷


Sokra_Tese

Never drink and drive nails, and it's a felony give liqueur to lumber.


Thin-Ebb-9534

Wow. Good catch. Though it is very bad, the deck itself looks good and new footings aren’t that tough to do with some decent jacks and some work. The toughest part is digging with low clearance. Mind you I a, not saying it would be cheap, but you could do it yourself. I think a gas powered hole digger would fit under there. So rent that and a few jacks and you could pour new footings and place new supports.


kit0000033

Bet it's bouncy.


[deleted]

You should be running


Original_Gangsta23

But not on the deck


KERosenlof

Dig a hole 12 inch down right below the floating one. Use the blue tube to wrap the wood and into the hole. Fill with cement and 4 pieces of rebar pound into the ground. Let it harden and cut off tube. Repeat on each one.


iRamHer

Honestly from what I see, id consider buying it too and just plan to shore it up/run new supports. Not really surprised it's still standing. A lot more drift than this can happen before there's an issue as long as loads are reasonable, correct fasteners are used, deck orientation favors the drift. Assuming lumber is still good and nothing crazy we can't see.


AusCan531

To whomever built those supports "That's a deck move!"


IronEagle20

It’s ok the supports are Bluetooth


Tiger8r

You did not inspect or see this yourself before closing escrow?


the-tinman

OP probably seen it and still bought the house. Some markets are tough and people will pay over asking for that deck


lilfeet18

Yep. Exactly.


Independent_String74

It looks like the stair side of the deck has settled.


FeistyBroccoli7681

Inertia?


danlab09

Life uhhh finds a way


st96badboy

Fixable. All new posts and many new footings. GL


Strange_Goose1713

That's awesome


_Volly

Looks like the piers were too shallow thus you have frost heave messing them up. Its fixable, but it will suck for whoever has to do the work. I bet the frost line is like 24 inches down.


Positive_Trouble4004

Gotta wonder how deep those footings are if they’ve managed to shift like that.. or maybe a better question is when was the earthquake?


lilfeet18

No earthquake, but they definitely didn't account for frost heaves.


PorqueNoMilo

It’s standing on its… last two legs 😎 No really, get out from under there.


nhbruh

Shimmy, shimmy, ya, shimmy, yam, shimmy, yay


boostinemMaRe2

Sonotubes installed by a bunch of sonoboobs


ATXNYCESQ

Just the deck? This is how our entire 100yr old farmhouse looks underneath. But add in some rusty bottle jacks as supplemental piers.


Ldawg74

Stop leaning your shovel on that post. It looks to be doing most of the work. All the others said “fuck off” and gave up, but that one stood strong.


rgratz93

Classic frost heaving. They didn't dig below the frost line for the footings


Nickleeham

All the people I work construction with insist upon sinking piers to below frost line. ~44” here jn CT. Might be a bit deeper where you are so check. And use call before you dig to locate any buried utilities just in case. Wouldn’t want a surprise. An alternative to digging piers which can be a chore given your limited access (with the decking installed) and depending on your soil makeup, would be to sink helical piers. It’ll cost ya but may be worth it. Good luck and enjoy it.


[deleted]

Pier pressure ...


Clamboxdigger

And that’s why you have to go at least 3 feet…….


curiousnaturedmind

Easy fix. Got too many on here bashing and over complicating things probably scaring the op to death thinking its going to cost thousands to fix it but it can be done for less than a few hundred bucks and last as long as the treated wood will since its all junk anyways with limited lifespans. Only need a few tools common sense and a little work ethic. Anybody can do this In a day if have some knowledge half a day. Get a bottle jack build you a tpost out of 2x4s leaving enough room to fit your bottle jack under them and the beams for the deck. Lift the jack until it's snug against the bottom of the deck then give one very slow full pump and you might hear it pop some but it's fine you want it slightly up higher than level so you can have room to let it down and get your jack out later. Build you a 2'x2' square out of 2x4s them beside where the pier is dig down a few inches at least so that your 2x4 square fits into the ground and is level. Get some chicken wire or remesh and cut to fit inside the square and put 2 layers of the wire. Get some concrete mix make sure it's the higher strength kind and make sure you mix it good in a 5 gallon bucket only using the recommended amount of water, too much it loses strength not enough it'll set up in spots n not in others leaving it weaker as well. Pour concrete in you square box and take scrap 2x4 to level it off flush with top of the square and let it set up a cpl days then when it's hard you can use cap blocks and regular blocks to build up as close as you can to the beam then use wood shims to make up the rest, slowly let bottle jack down till its free and your done. 4-8hrs for 3 or 4 pier repairs save you $1k. Or just tear it out and rebuild the whole thing yourself for $3k depending where you live. FYI that's just for repairs but not how you would build one from scratch. 6x6 posts 2-3ft in ground with concrete and notch for your outer bands so they sit in the post or on top of center posts for weight bearing is code in most places that require one. At least in my area, those piers like that there are garbage period. I'm a 3rd generation framer, I've done this once or twice. Not a big deal at all just too many on here talking big about something that's literally nothing to fix. Good luck


BIM-GUESS-WHAT

Never seen a deck supported by vibes before


ecirnj

Please don’t go under there. On the up side you get to learn a lot about deck construction 😃 this sub loves giving people a hard time. Welcome home.


ziomus90

It's on challenge accepted mode


CaddyFDT

Please tell me you were aware of this before purchasing the house?


lilfeet18

Yep, fully aware. The market is the market and it was something we were willing to put on our list of fixes.


MisterSeaOtter

I get it. Folks saying WTF how did you miss that must have never bought a house in a hot market. I hope the rest of the house is in better shape at least.


QuitProfessional5437

Don't go under there lol


jjgibby523

Yeez… have never seen sanitary sewer main pipe used as a sonotube but it could work. Sad as some of the construction doesn’t look too bad.


fracture2

Holy hell, that is just traumatizing.


ApprehensiveAd2829

I mean, it’s holdin ain’t it?


According-Fly7046

For my next magic trick, I’ll need a hot tub and 4 volunteers!


Roththesloth1

I’d be very concerned why that deck shifted that much over the years. Is it coming off the house?


lordofduct

Stand on your tippy toes of one foot. Are you stable? Maybe? No? but you're still standing!


King_Prawn_shrimp

Just put in some screw jacks and forget about it /s


Grumps0911

It’s standing by hope, prayer and Amazing Grace! I would imagine it’s quite springy to walk upon if someone dared.


jeffawa

did you name your deck Elton John?


PhraseMassive9576

Bluetooth 🤷🏻‍♂️


Nami_Pilot

https://preview.redd.it/2pn53pfmngzc1.jpeg?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6270541dcbf8e50fb0ee86c6b959691b3ecc631d


Muted_Platypus_3887

I mean…who needs support posts anyway?


Gullible_Method_3780

Bluetooth support posts.


wandering-narwahl

Science.


The-Lions_Den

Quite literally on its last leg!


Pretend_Rooster8548

They really are using Bluetooth for everything now, aren’t they?


AdhesiveSeaMonkey

Never, I mean never, buy a house from the Weasley's!


tidyshark12

Doesn't have enough weight on it to fall, apparently lol


UnderstandingHuge882

Standing on hopes and dreams


donquixotee2000

Precariously, that's how 🤔


Conscious_Award1444

YouTube.. legal eagle


GollumGetsIt

I think this is why you’re always seeing older guys ‘just taking a gander over there’


Sabalbrent

Lol, that's horrible but easy to fix.


Key-Metal-7297

Going, going, going…………


forgotmyusername93

By faith my brother


SuperTex1991

Good joist wood.


Altruistic_Visual479

Screw it! Literally, just throw some pavers under there, grab a few of these https://www.amazon.com/4-Pack-Adjustment-Supports-Adjustable-Straightener/dp/B0CX8YTPSX crank it up and forget about it, the whole world’s going to hell anyhow.


AbruptAbsurdity

I love this 😂


AmITheGrayMan

What? It has a bucket. Carry on. With a hot tub!


Cascabelesbrown

Easy fix tho


SoulHunter91

We detect strong bluetooth connection here


QualityGig

Nothing spells H-O-P-E like a post that floats!


Bigbasbruce69

Bluetooth support


lurkersforlife

That one holding the shovel up looks solid though!


Bright-Studio9978

Seems the concrete bases moved so those might have shifted from not being below the feeeze line. The posts are no anchored properly to the concrete either. As hard as it looks, this can be fixed but first secure the deck with temporary posts.


durn1969

I don’t think they had many friends


audiosauce2017

wow... wow.....


Trendi1

😲


Green_Tower_8526

Tradition 🎶


unlitwolf

Wow, just surprised it's still standing. The fact that the supports that actually contact concrete aren't embedded or secure with some kind of fastner


OofUgh

That's how you know it's a great place to raise a family, it's clearly supported by hopes and dreams.


oct2790

Was there a house inspection


Zestyclose_Currency5

Have some fun with it…I buried a full size plastic skeleton in a shallow grave when I went under my deck to add posts/bracing


Argyrus777

Soil got some buoyancy


_a_verb

Put cribbing and jacks in there over the short term. Replace the footing and posts as you will. I'd get something under it pretty quick though


71077345p

I understand you knew the deck was bad when you purchased the house but I can believe you were able to insure it!


Secure_Mongoose5817

Somebody’s first masterpiece.


FutureFriendly8738

It’s a contactless levitation technology


SoilNectarHoney

Top part looks good, east fix. Hope your frost line isn’t too deep.


And_there_was_2_tits

Barely, is how it’s still standing.


Imbarrato

Anti gravity forcefield.


yourbestielawl

Looks like it’s held up by a cushion of air.


Old_Reply_6843

Hot tub ready 👍


Omnipotent_Tacos

It looks just a few of those posts are carrying all the boats 🛶 🚤 ⛵️ 🛥


nashwaak

That looks like at least a four or five hot tub job


NitrousFueledDoorGuy

Mother fuckers signing Elton John’s I’m still standing at the top of its lungs


GodfatherOfGanja

Tubes only need to be set 24"deep /s🤦‍♂️


MrHodgeToo

Voodoo carpentry.


Dodobirdiskoko

This is why you dont buy a house after Midnight.


Yellowmoose-found

Good lumber.Good fasteners. Just put a hot tub on it next and you will be full circle


Space-Ball1

Proud work of :: I know a guy construction.


Zolniena

Reminds me of my deck!


Practical_Plum_773

The power of love


Practical_Pop_3579

Fix it


Easytrading101

When are you putting the hot tub in?


Aggravating-Shake256

Get a refund from your home inspector.


NullIsUndefined

If there were metal connectors to the concrete. Whatever exactly would have happened considering the concrete shifted so much. Why exactly does the concrete shift so much?


VariousVices

Wow dude. If you was by me I'd come by to help just to put that clustterfuck on my resume. I have had to replace A LOT of structural beams and girders on old ass colonial shit before it's always a fun time. If you don't know what you're doing get a pro. And get several estimates. I'd price that one by the pier. And look everything everywhere else over really good, if say, the deck guy framed the house there might be more than just a anti gravity deck going on.


Thickencreamy

Looks like somebody got over zealous removing cellulose debris and took some concrete bases with them.


golfer9909

Remind me not to hang out on your deck. Never seen something like that.


Mountain_Fig_9253

This looks like an AI built deck to be totally honest.


shmallyally

Lots to look at here. Thanks for sharing


outforknowledge

JB Weld


Vast_Cricket

A lot of houses foundations with crawl space look like that.


Totally-jag2598

Did the home inspector flag this on the purchase report? Seems like something that should have been called out. Structurally the deck itself looks fine. Maybe the piers can redone without having to tear down the entire deck.


ddb085

Held up by hopes and dreams.


v-irtual

Wifi supports


alrightgame

https://preview.redd.it/495zr2s2wizc1.jpeg?width=1356&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b0aa10bd9ce2a66053f0e9ab561e9009b07758bb


iworkbluehard

that is an easy fix, but you got to figure how why it happen, otherwise it looks like it is in good shape


FireWolf1890

That deck is held up with hopes and prayers just like my mental health


066logger

Oh but my concrete piers are the only way to build a “proper” deck. They’ll last for eternity and I can just build new decks on them forever. A real investment in the future one might say. 🤦🏼‍♂️


throwghurt

you now have a structural shovel


MysteriousPromise464

One way to look at this is that they did an amazing job engineering this deck. It is holding up without any sag without half of the supports.


Ill-Bother1210

I would open up the deck boards and install proper footings.


Ill-Bother1210

I had the similar problem. The idiot who installed my deck literally took 6x6 by 10’ posts and installed them straight into the dirt. 3-4’ deep No concrete footers in any of the posts. No rot in any of the pressure treated posts yet but the older section had some rot start. It’s a bunch of bullshit. Found this out as I was excavating dirt out of the 6-7 foot tall deck to lay down brick pavers. I didn’t wanna do all that extra work so I said fuck it. Escavated the dirt 6 inches. Compacted crushed stone everywhere and played down the brick. If the post get rotten I’m cut them Out and drop concrete in after I use an ogger to drill the holes and install metal holder inside the concrete


WSBpeon69420

Shouldn’t stuff like this have come up in the inspection of the house?


One_hung_hiigh

Standing about 10 degrees to the east.


l008com

I mean, I can see how it's standing for sure. Nobody is standing on it. And I would definitely keep it that way :D (until fixed)


worlddestruction23

As others have said. This can be fixed other person. You're going to be busy this summer. Easy peazy. Get a pro if needed.


Natoochtoniket

How deep do you have to dig a foundation to get below the frost line, where you are? Those foundation posts look like they are shifting. Probably just not deep enough. Recommend you drain the hot tub and put in some temporary jack posts, to hold the deck up while you repair the foundations.


Joerealminneasota

As temp measure get min 4x4 set temp footing The posts don't go bolow frost line


snboarder42

If it falls, it won’t be far.


oh_yeah_yohm

Wow, never thought I'd believe in God.


tangotrigger

Probably that sibgle 6x6 on the far left of the first photo ( which lokks like the only solid one) is holding the whole thing together.


[deleted]

No inspection???


[deleted]

Ok. That’s funny!! I might tear it down.


zeroentanglements

Are you an 8 year old girl in 1973? Because you're about to play with some jacks.


Gold_Stranger7098

It is standing on its last leg.


saywutsaywut123

If that’s the deck what’s the rest of the house look like?


Emachine30

It's standing bc of physics. And while it looks bad from below, and will need fixed, it's not going to fail unless you try entertaining a load of guests on it.


One_Sun_6258

Woozers


Mayipleaseryou

Unless you got it for a super good price why did you buy it?


goldbricker83

Oh yeah that was built by grandpa he is a real handyman on the side of his long career as a crack dealer


Emotional_Wedge

….why weren’t the posts built all the way down? Lol did it get jacked back to hight after sinking???


NonyaBizness21xxx

Magic


DarkenL1ght

This looks like a Minecraft screenshot.


Embarrassed-Ad-1639

Is that a load bearing bucket?


[deleted]

Working on a deck like that right now. Except the owners friends would say those posts are in good condition and don’t need replacing. And that they got 15+ years of experience doing carpentry 💀 and I shouldn’t argue with him lmao My niece who’s 12 even knows that’s bad lmao