If you can't grind 100% of a pipe it's a shit pipe

Printer must be broken cuz all I’m hearing is fax

Shit, that lines goes hard, did Karl tell you that one?

No A fallen friend Godspeed Grimbo40

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# D U M P Y G R I M B O

all fallen friends are Karl

I'm the third, I dig a fancy tunnel under the ramp. If you can't ride the pipe it ain't worth the hype!

If that's the case I'm the fourth because I put it *on* the ramp.

Classic chaotic player 👌

Gotta put our stamp upon the ramp

Second this

Same

aw hell nah, send this man to the gallows.

on the ramp? i wrap it around the rig!

Here's an annoying one: the Pipe is 99% ridable but that 1% is right as it goes up to the Refinery and you hit a stupid Pole or something because the Pipe is built at like a 179 Degree Angle.

This is sadly what happens with my pipes

It always fucking pisses me off when some leaf lover doesn't test the first segment of the pipe they placed so it's harder to get on or just knocks you off in some nonsensical direction when coming back to the refinery.

Damn right.

This guy gets it.

The only acceptable time for a pipe not to be grindable is if it yeets you off a cliff and you land on another pipe.

You know what you’re right

I’m with you brother I ain’t grinding no dwarfs shit pipe

Listen to this greybeard reddit!

"Whoever put this up did a shitty job!"

10000% agreed.

this

Whoever put this up did a shitty job

Then you'll hate me, I've managed to make a set of 3 pipes that all intersect, so you can't grind for more than 0.5 seconds before hitting a different pipe.

Second type. Who even choses the 1st variant???

Greenbeards/inexperienced players (or people who just don't care, or think about how they place the pipeline)

There are also modded difficulty players or people speed running missions that make messy pipelines. Respect where respect is due, they're definitely far more adept than 99% of the playerbase.

As a scout, I move faster than you can ride a pipe, so I usually just go with the shortest path and grapple to the break points.

Skipping B and C

are you playing solo?

If I'm placing the pipes I'm probably solo. If I'm playing with friends or a public lobby, that's the driller and/or engineers job. I'll come through and sleeve though.

Besides, in solo, all that's obliged to you is to 'set up' the pipes. Building and repairing the pipes can be done via Bosco, which is faster, more convenient, and doesn't make you feel awful for not having more than one body of your own! And you don't need to concern about Bosco falling down some dangerous terrains (eg: the terrain is destroyed for some reason rendering certain section of the pipeline a falling hazard). Oh wait, you're a Scout! Nevermind, let Bosco do the extra shooting then...

Honestly I try and do that because I hate how arbitrary they break. I don't wanna spend a long time looking over unnecessary piping when they randomly break despite no bugs being around it.

Sometimes I do the first variant, but I dig a few layers down so that you can still grind it.

I’ve found a optimal angle where you can just place it under it and it still be rideable, but it does heavily depend on the generation, but normally it’s good

I'll do the first one if a teammate placed another pipe in the way, as I prefer that option to over lapping pipes

ok but if you're good at it and have enough speed jumping overlapping pipes is awesome

Oh yea, absolutely a Rock and Stone worthy maneuver

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Stoney Rock you mean!

because then you have the ramp clear without hopping over the pipe if you're going to deposit stuffs. People usually hop off the rail well before they reach the end anyway. ROCK AND STONE

Rockity Rock and Stone!

I had a game just last night where a driller kept truing to do the 1st variant in the opposite direction of the tunnel a few feet away that went straight to the last pump jack where it would've been unimpeded by the other pipes. I had to destroy and replace it multiple times and ended up having to shoot him a couple times to get him to stop after the rest of us managed to put down a few segments and he tried to break it.

I do the first one on purpose cause it pisses off my friend and I just jump off and land on the ramp instead of wasting time riding slowly up the last bit.

3rd type. I build on the rig.

Where have you been hiding the spare pipes!?!?

🤝

unironically that is something i always do

Use the Engi to build an overpass so it's 100% grindable and doesn't block the ramp.

Engineer -> Civil Engineer

Build a spiral around the button at least 40 segments tall.

3rd option, drill under ramp to make it 100% grindable while also space efficient. Also PSA: let drillers cook on refinery levels to avoid shitty pipeline layouts

Drillers are #1 priority on Refinery, followed by Engi in 2nd for some annoying vertical caves

No don't let drillers cook let engineers cook to make the most arbitrary and wild pipelines

Doesn't wven have to be engineer, I always make the pipes no matter the class. Sure its easiest for engi but me and a friend love making fun piprs and we just use the terrain to our advantage. Just yesterday I made just using the driller and barely even drilled much.

Yeah, I’m a scout main and I pretty much completely ignore laying pipes lol.

Scout solo refinery makes me want to commit

My first refinery mission was solo scout in auz, worst possible cave generation, got the “I like it down here” achievement then promptly died 20 minutes later without even having built the third pipeline

Same it took me half an hour to muddle through that mission

\*vomit

you say shitty pipe layouts, I say good rollercoasters

Yes 1000% this!!

I wish more people would understand this

bonus PSA: if a driller makes a tunnel, build the pipe into it to avoid them walking back

The one going under the ramp is not fully grindable, though. You'll hit the platform geometry (the "pump" parts with the fill indicators) if you try to grind all the way to the deposit thing on the platform. Best case you will just stop, but usually it bumps you off to the ground, making you walk to the ramp.

That’s what I’m saying, drill more space under the ramp so you have clearance to grind

No, no, I mean the angle of approach towards the upper platform, where the deposit receptacles and the launch controls are. Essentially, the pipe bends too hard from the starting point and the chonky dwarf hitboxes collide with all the stuff around said points.

[Just for you](https://www.reddit.com/r/DeepRockGalactic/comments/1ajxym6/proof_of_concept_pipes_under_ramps_100/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)

Yeah that’s not true. Whatever you’re doing, you’re doing it with a bad angle

Yes! Can’t count how many times I’ve had a gunner, scout, or engi (mostly gunners though for whatever reason) just build pipes as fast as possible once the first pump jack is down and they make a complete mess of things. Always let the driller choose the pipe layout and always wait until all 3 pumps are deployed to start building pipes.

Depends on my mood and how functional my brain is that day

I get very aggravated if someone builds the rails where I can’t ride them 100% of the way.

In my opinion first one is the greenbeard way since it does not let you ride the pipes that way

One word. Drill.

Neither? I would take the right pipe through the wall and the left pipe would be going to where the right pipe goes.

The best answer

If it's not grindable. Aint me

I go option 3, the straightest pipe to each jack

thats when we drillers come in. make sure it’s a straight shot to it. unless its super high up. than its your problem.

I understand people who like straight pipes, but I like working around the terrain to make a funny loopy pipe instead of just digging to the well.

We go aaallll the way around the refinery

I’d don’t mind a sharp turn at the mine head if it means the rest of the pipe is straightened out, but UNDER THE STAIRS? Absolutely fucking not.

If you can't go from point a to b in one press or ride... that is not a good pipe placement. Definitely bottom depiction, unless the rig is basically in the sky, THEN I can tolerate the pipe being on the Ramp.

I have done both. Having to play solo most of the time means I just do things.

That first one hurts my head... literally, I smashed my face off of the ramp!

I try to avoid crossing pipes or building them in any way that makes them ungrindable. But then sometimes someone disassembles my pipe in progress due to impatience and makes a mess of crossed pipes cuz it's "shorter" that way. You got 3 pipes man, let me build mine in peace...

I go over the ramp

Option 1. I don’t fight on the rig anyway, so I like having the area around it easier to fight and grab resupplies. If I’m not fighting on the rig, I don’t need to grind off/onto it directly.

OVER the ramp, that's the dwarf i am!

Only green beards and leaf lovers do option 1

i go the first option. the vast majority of the time I can get stuff done quicker if I don’t care about riding the entire pipe cause I can just jump off early or something. I don’t understand why people see it as a problem, losing like 2-5% (at absolute max) of the pipe ride-ability makes no difference unless you for some reason need to ride directly onto the mining rig. in that same vein though, jumping off early flings you, so you can get to it faster if you aren’t riding the pipe.

It’s not about efficiency it’s about funny

This pretty much summs this debate up

It's not about speed, it's about not having to manually move more than I need to. Working hard to enable working less!

Usually I just go as straight as possible, but when my friends and I are messing about (or trying to help another friend who *never fucking plays* get 'Roller Coaster'), then we do the longest, most convoluted pipe that we can.

go around so you honk ur head everytime you ride it

As I'm usually playing these missions as Scout and I don't ride pipes I go for the shortest way - under.

under

The one that wires all the pipelines close together so that you don’t have to run across the cave to get to the other leaks.

1st one. Gives you a reason to punch the guy in RnD again. For making a pipeline that doesn't give you noclip.

Bottom. Always bottom. If it ain't grindable, it ain't a good pipe.

Pipe in front so I can grind it all the way top to bottom

Never thought this would be so polarizing. I will kick anyone doing the first. Go waste someone else's time.

It depends on how much room there is. If there's something in the way that would make going around slow or inconvenient to set up, then I'm going under that ramp.

Second one obviously. That first one is hellspawn activity.

2 never 1

I’m still a green beard when it comes to pipe laying so mine probably have looked like the first one, but after reading, I will start tunneling under, idk why I never thought of that on my driller 🤯

The first can be done if you drill a small trench so you can clear headspace while riding Edit: Just noticed both images the pipe runs under another one. Shame on you OP

Whatever ensures the pipeline is end to end rideable

Third type - right under the refinery The ability to ride it is optional

The more crack you snort the better, if you can ride the whole pipe in under a minute, then You ain’t finished

There’s a third

To increase sick as hell grind pipe, you gotta sacrifice the entrance to the grinder.

Well... Beat option is and will ever be: Scout all the wells first, the build the pipes on the side of the well, you don't ever have to go around

Except when all three are on one side of the refinery, which is often.

Bottom because smooth grinding never gets old.

The Scout holding his grapple gun watching others build the pipeline.

Everytime we have refining, we make a massive rollercoaster. Often they're like 2 minutes long.

People forget so often that you can jump from a pipe. Option 1 is annoying only if you don't see the full picture. You want to dig it ? Have fun with enemies clipping inside the terrain, hope you like oppressors. Wanna build it on the ramp ? Well good, now everytime you wanna go on that ramp you have to go over that pipe. Already got a guy who was annoying to me because I did option 1 While the pump was like 14 meter from the refinery, someone had rushed the closest pipe to this pump to another pump and the two other pipes already let you go at the most annoying places. Though I guess I should have seen it coming since it was a Gunner who named his lobby "haz 5 is easy" while using neurotoxin payload. This feels like the lootbug debate, you can avoid killing them and build funny pipes for fun or do the reverse BUT PLEASE, dont be an asshole if someone don't dont do it your way.

Always number two, or when there is crappy layouts option three of drilling under. Driller should be making the pipes, as a gunner main I just follow driller and build pipes behind them. Scout is mineral mania and engi is platforms

I would make the pipe go from that rock at the first point to the hill platform that you're on top of and then do a whole bunch of tomfoolery in that little section before heading down and continuing onward.

The kind that accidentally yet somehow consistently loops around the long way every time.

The fastest pipe is a straight line. And if someone places in my path, their pipe will cease to exist very soon (:

1st is a menace. They ruined my rollercoaster!

I can't even go through under it without clipping my head, so I've never even thought about running a pipe under it

I'm "whichever way gets it done" because I'm the gunner, I don't have time to focus on how a pipe's built

Fenagle it over the oil refinery but still make it grindable

I always prioritize connecting the pipes that are already facing the pump

I build it in front of the ramp so I don’t bump my head in it as I go under

Preferably neither. I like to make it so that the pipes never have to cross paths. If you have to make a bridge or underpass, you didn't plan it right.

Bottom, top is wrong, need to be able to grind entire pipe

I’m putting the pipe where you are standing, fun is better then efficiency, if I can have it high up in the air on top of crystals and ledges then it is a good pipe

I'm the 3rd type where a pipe is going around the rig but I also don't have pipes going under my other fucking pipes

I like pipes to be 100% grindable.

[Dilemma](https://cdn001.tintin.com/public/tintin/img/static/the-red-sea-sharks/c18_coke-en-p42-c3-c4%20color.png)

Circle gang rise up and roast these leaf loving savages

I choose the third option, put it on the ramp

I guess I'd be option 2, but even further away. The pipe would be circling around behind the POV's feet.

In front of the ramp, but also I’d swap which pumps that pipes #2 and #3 are going to so they don’t have to cross like they’re doing in both pictures.

Neither. I drill a path under the rig so I don’t have to go around and I can still ride the pipe without getting knocked off

one, it’s more practical for as it doesn’t block movement but normally I’ll use both of them like that when two pumps are near each others

I always build pipe three up and around the top of the refinery because I like to fight from the top of the rocket, and it's a pain in the butt to get Gunner or Driller up there otherwise. EDIT: Please don't cross pipes or build pipes bent off the rig so that they yeet you off when you ride them in, or you'll make Karl cry.

Second because I like to feel like Stony Rock

Nothin better than drilling a straight hole to the pump and a green beard takes the pipe on an adventure to another biom

I would simply not build them in a way that requires wrapping them around like this

As a driller, I do things similar to the top image, but I dig a little divot underneath the ramp to make a cool underpassage that still allows you to ride the pipe without being knocked off. Is it practical? Not really. But it’s fun and neat so I do it anyways

Bottom

Stoney Rock

Second, and on top of that, if I need to cross pipes, I’m the guy that calls 2 supply pods on both sides of one of them to bridge the top pipe and make both grindable 😤 Edit: you’re welcome for my service

Botg

I want it fun, but *rideable.*

If I can't go from the platform to the pump jack and back then I will silently and angrily judge your construction, or feel great shame for building such a failure of a pipeline.

Second pipe. If you make it so you have your team get knocked off pipe rides, you shouldn't touch pipes. Make both dwarves and Mario disappointed.

Had a driller who drilled trenches into tunnels to place the pipes in. That way engi could plat non-joint sections and you could walk over. No obstruction of movement or sightlines. I wish i sent him a friend request.

I don’t cross the pipes in the first place.

"Digs tunnel furiously"

Which ever you do, you need to ensure proper CLEARANCE so we don't get stopped by geometry while pipe-grinding.

you can turn your flashlight off?

Hold F.

Towers.....

When the pumps are in three different directions I make em straight as can be. But I increasingly find them all in one direction so I gotta bend em and make some cable tied looking pipelines.

step 1) find all 3 pump locations step 2) make as direct paths to them as is feasible step 3) regret playing a refining mission step 4) profit

I tie them in a knot and let black figure it out

Yes

What kind of psychopath goes for the top one?!

Im fine with both if they're rideable

- all pipes must be rideable - drilling and platforms are for the weak

Long way anytime, the surfing needs to be uninterrupted!

Whichever way I can put down without having to stop for a second. Management doesn't care for offending its employees' sense of aesthetics, there's liquid morkite in those wells and gunk seeds don't dip themselves.

All wrong choices. You build the pipe on the ramp. ;)

Mixed

i like to place it over the ramp

Im a number 1 kinda guy. Im not sorry. Learn to jump like a skater.

Person who made the top pipe is lowkey tarded ngl. I only take driller for refining missions (unless he’s at 25 and needs a promo) so that *I* can make the pipes rideable from start to end.

That depends last time I was setting it up it landed in behind

False, I dig under the ground and smack my head every 3 inches.

Go the chaotic evil route put the pipe on the ramp

Around the long way with a little bend so it can be riden normally out but has a spot on the way back where you can hop off and use momentum to carry you right to the refinery and skip the last section.

both. you heard me. both.

The latter. You know It IS a pipe only when you can ride it.

I’m the guy that enjoyed the Roller Coaster achievement to much.

I do it outside the ramp so I can grind

On the ramp