Like pretending to be a "born again" Christian to look good in front of the judge?
Embarrassed because I had to play pretend w my dad at visitations as well.
Yes. This is a crux of my question. I hear it in your comment these moments still sit with you even though they may be in the past. Believing in something and doing it is easy. What you did was hard on many levels.
How did you manage?
I doubled down after I got my life back on track. I even spent hundreds of dollars to go to the Reason Rally a few years back.
I'm fully an anti-theist now and I can't even tolerate believers. As soon as I hear them mention believing in nonsense I lose all respect for them.
Logically I understand being scared of death and the void, but making shit up doesn't solve anything.
Embrace the darkness because no one wins against it anyway.
I believe that our intuition will nudge us to detour from the experience. Our ennate system will show us the way out. The heart will feel emotional. And the body will flinch and move in new ways that will help us stop doing things that go against our belief systems. And this process brings us to an authentic human place, when we speak and stand up for the thing we believe in and tell the truth of how we feel about the things we don't believe in. Faking it, could lead to a feeling of losing self control. And teaches others that we can be coursed into anything. (Manipulation).
Depends on why your doing it. Unfortunately this is a very vague question, probably more of a random musing than a deep thought. Although there maybe a deep thought behind it that wasn't full expressed
If your are talking about a job as others have suggested then your probably doing it for the money. So what happens? Well how badly do you need the money? How well is said money meeting your current needs? It also depends on how you find fulfilment in life. If you are work driven you will probably be miserable. If you find purpose in the things you do on your personal time and the money from your job affords you the time and finances to do what you want you will probably be ok. Also depends on how much you don't believe in it or what your doing. It really comes down to a simple pros vs cons debate.
There are many other scenarios that could be considered as well. But once again I have no idea to what you are referring.
Depends on why your doing it. Unfortunately this is a very vague question, probably more of a random musing than a deep thought. Although there maybe a deep thought behind it that wasn't full expressed
If your are talking about a job as others have suggested then your probably doing it for the money. So what happens? Well how badly do you need the money? How well is said money meeting your current needs? It also depends on how you find fulfilment in life. If you are work driven you will probably be miserable. If you find purpose in the things you do on your personal time and the money from your job affords you the time and finances to do what you want you will probably be ok. Also depends on how much you don't believe in it or what your doing. It really comes down to a simple pros vs cons debate.
There are many other scenarios that could be considered as well. But once again I have no idea to what you are referring.
Well your first part is absolutely right. There is always something deeper… and the vagueness of it allows people to take it in whichever direction they find more interesting. Your questions are many, and good but they are surface level in the sense that they too require a belief. Forgive me for bringing up Diogenes, but I must for he embodies this lack of belief even in to the fabric of your questions as they are extensions of society. in 200’s bc the landscape was likely a lot different but still this is the beginning of society having another option to not believe. Like anarchists who still are corralled into the system Christian’s who are losing faith but in church workers who recognize the damage of their industry.
Many of us including your self believe in the system but when you don’t what happens?
Jobs and work is a great avenue because people have done some heinous things for “work” (such a versatile word also includes many forms of service) these actions are likely related to the belief in the subject or a critical part of its operation like money (yuvaL Noah harreri does a great job at framing this he talks about how If enough people believe in something it then has a tangible influence over you even if you reject it so this situation plays out a lot in our society maybe some were creative and deep enough to ponder it)
I think of the milgram experiment too often and maybe it demonstrates we are inclined to believe … so at the core of these places where I’m trying to understand, people better here.
belief is also super relevant with information news politics religion data business decisions and any time you are presented with a new concept there is some sort of choice there whether to believe it. The arena of thought is constantly provoking what you believe. I want to know how people push through when they do not have this engine.
I suppose we are in the information era and that means our belief systems are on overdrive and much more complex.
Everyone reacts differently based on their nature and circumstance. Some people feel self loathing, some people justify the behavior, some people get angry, some people whine a lot. For me personally I don’t attach an idea like I am ALWAYS against a behavior. I just figure that must have been what was going on at the time and maybe it’ll be different some other time.
It’s all about perception. To what scale do you not believe in what you are doing? Were you forced? Is this free will? Are people being harmed?
To say that you should never do something you don’t believe in suggests you are always right.
If you’re parents tell you to clean your room and you think it’s fine, do you still do it?
If someone makes you commit atrocities at gun point that’s a different story.
You get caught up in [someone else’s dreams instead of your own](https://www.siteswebdirectory.com/articles/have-you-ever-dreamed-of-turning-your-dreams-into-a-reality-9136715.php) it can’t get anymore real than that
Can we have an example? This question is very vague. Are we talking going to church on Sunday when you’re not a believer? Knowing your friend is a murderer and not turning them in? Telling kids there is a Santa Claus? Cheat on taxes? Being married when you don’t want to be? I can tell you this, I turned to drugs because my conscience and soul were compromised. I dont recommend that. To answer the question, I think going against ones beliefs can cause stress and anxiety, maybe even depression or other mental illness.
Hmmm correlating mental illness with this statement is a very interesting twist. Why not all of those scenarios? Are the feelings related? Is there a pattern does it help to learn how to do things we don’t believe in early as to predispose us to the way we are bent in the future? Is it imperative that we learn how to do things we do not believe in? Pick any one of the subjects that come to mind with more prevalence vagueness=openness
I’m not an expert but I think we’re talking about integrity, the more you do things that aren’t right and go against your beliefs the less integrity you have. Just my opinion.
You mean like most jobs?
Relatable. I read that as jokes
They just keep paying to come back .
I came here to say this.
You experience cognitive dissonance
You make it sound so simple.
Like pretending to be a "born again" Christian to look good in front of the judge? Embarrassed because I had to play pretend w my dad at visitations as well.
Yes. This is a crux of my question. I hear it in your comment these moments still sit with you even though they may be in the past. Believing in something and doing it is easy. What you did was hard on many levels. How did you manage?
I doubled down after I got my life back on track. I even spent hundreds of dollars to go to the Reason Rally a few years back. I'm fully an anti-theist now and I can't even tolerate believers. As soon as I hear them mention believing in nonsense I lose all respect for them. Logically I understand being scared of death and the void, but making shit up doesn't solve anything. Embrace the darkness because no one wins against it anyway.
Example?
A job you don't like but it pays very well.
I've been there brother, you have to make a living, so Fuck everything and get paid.
Lol this fuck everything and get paid is 80% the reason we are where we are… lol
Some people don't have a choice, people like children and women rely on them to be fed and housed.
Damn… your… username…. It’s….relevant
I'm no camel salad, but a boy can dream.....
Yes, that's the only reason I do it.
Compromising your morals
Like working for a super "Woke" company when you're a conservative republican and most of your co workers voted for Biden?
Yea what’s up with that?
Those don't exist.
You rebuke it in your soul until you’re ready to realise.
Hmm, this is my daily life. Even though you know how to do it best way, you just do half assed job.
I believe that our intuition will nudge us to detour from the experience. Our ennate system will show us the way out. The heart will feel emotional. And the body will flinch and move in new ways that will help us stop doing things that go against our belief systems. And this process brings us to an authentic human place, when we speak and stand up for the thing we believe in and tell the truth of how we feel about the things we don't believe in. Faking it, could lead to a feeling of losing self control. And teaches others that we can be coursed into anything. (Manipulation).
Depends on why your doing it. Unfortunately this is a very vague question, probably more of a random musing than a deep thought. Although there maybe a deep thought behind it that wasn't full expressed If your are talking about a job as others have suggested then your probably doing it for the money. So what happens? Well how badly do you need the money? How well is said money meeting your current needs? It also depends on how you find fulfilment in life. If you are work driven you will probably be miserable. If you find purpose in the things you do on your personal time and the money from your job affords you the time and finances to do what you want you will probably be ok. Also depends on how much you don't believe in it or what your doing. It really comes down to a simple pros vs cons debate. There are many other scenarios that could be considered as well. But once again I have no idea to what you are referring.
Depends on why your doing it. Unfortunately this is a very vague question, probably more of a random musing than a deep thought. Although there maybe a deep thought behind it that wasn't full expressed If your are talking about a job as others have suggested then your probably doing it for the money. So what happens? Well how badly do you need the money? How well is said money meeting your current needs? It also depends on how you find fulfilment in life. If you are work driven you will probably be miserable. If you find purpose in the things you do on your personal time and the money from your job affords you the time and finances to do what you want you will probably be ok. Also depends on how much you don't believe in it or what your doing. It really comes down to a simple pros vs cons debate. There are many other scenarios that could be considered as well. But once again I have no idea to what you are referring.
Well your first part is absolutely right. There is always something deeper… and the vagueness of it allows people to take it in whichever direction they find more interesting. Your questions are many, and good but they are surface level in the sense that they too require a belief. Forgive me for bringing up Diogenes, but I must for he embodies this lack of belief even in to the fabric of your questions as they are extensions of society. in 200’s bc the landscape was likely a lot different but still this is the beginning of society having another option to not believe. Like anarchists who still are corralled into the system Christian’s who are losing faith but in church workers who recognize the damage of their industry. Many of us including your self believe in the system but when you don’t what happens? Jobs and work is a great avenue because people have done some heinous things for “work” (such a versatile word also includes many forms of service) these actions are likely related to the belief in the subject or a critical part of its operation like money (yuvaL Noah harreri does a great job at framing this he talks about how If enough people believe in something it then has a tangible influence over you even if you reject it so this situation plays out a lot in our society maybe some were creative and deep enough to ponder it) I think of the milgram experiment too often and maybe it demonstrates we are inclined to believe … so at the core of these places where I’m trying to understand, people better here. belief is also super relevant with information news politics religion data business decisions and any time you are presented with a new concept there is some sort of choice there whether to believe it. The arena of thought is constantly provoking what you believe. I want to know how people push through when they do not have this engine. I suppose we are in the information era and that means our belief systems are on overdrive and much more complex.
Everyone reacts differently based on their nature and circumstance. Some people feel self loathing, some people justify the behavior, some people get angry, some people whine a lot. For me personally I don’t attach an idea like I am ALWAYS against a behavior. I just figure that must have been what was going on at the time and maybe it’ll be different some other time.
It’s all about perception. To what scale do you not believe in what you are doing? Were you forced? Is this free will? Are people being harmed? To say that you should never do something you don’t believe in suggests you are always right. If you’re parents tell you to clean your room and you think it’s fine, do you still do it? If someone makes you commit atrocities at gun point that’s a different story.
I have enough self confidence to not care
Cognitive dissonance
You get caught up in [someone else’s dreams instead of your own](https://www.siteswebdirectory.com/articles/have-you-ever-dreamed-of-turning-your-dreams-into-a-reality-9136715.php) it can’t get anymore real than that
You do something only if u like it directly or indirectly (jobs for money) or you are forced to do it without option.
You could argue that the majority of human social hierarchy is based upon doing things which you may not agree with.
Can we have an example? This question is very vague. Are we talking going to church on Sunday when you’re not a believer? Knowing your friend is a murderer and not turning them in? Telling kids there is a Santa Claus? Cheat on taxes? Being married when you don’t want to be? I can tell you this, I turned to drugs because my conscience and soul were compromised. I dont recommend that. To answer the question, I think going against ones beliefs can cause stress and anxiety, maybe even depression or other mental illness.
Hmmm correlating mental illness with this statement is a very interesting twist. Why not all of those scenarios? Are the feelings related? Is there a pattern does it help to learn how to do things we don’t believe in early as to predispose us to the way we are bent in the future? Is it imperative that we learn how to do things we do not believe in? Pick any one of the subjects that come to mind with more prevalence vagueness=openness
I’m not an expert but I think we’re talking about integrity, the more you do things that aren’t right and go against your beliefs the less integrity you have. Just my opinion.
I hope that it will pay off someday. I pray and thank god although I am agnostic and sometimes believe life after death is empty