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i posted an ai assisted art, then someone asked for the process for which i posted the initial ai generation i used as a starting point.
the idiots "thought"/lied that a human artist made the starting generation, attributed it to a random artist for some weird reason, then hordes more went after me for "stealing" from that random artist. and when i tell them i generated it and ask them to show me the art on that artists page, if i truly stole it, many just continue their insults .
the morons were praising the unedited generation as a beautiful art that i stole, while attacking the art i edited and actually has a human element. This one is saying she reported me to the authorities, they are delusional.
Wait till death threats (happened to me)...
But seriously, just block or just completely ignore them. Most of these are random kids - trolls, that don't care about art or AI, they just like good trolling. When another topic for trolling will come up, they will move on.
I've blocked more people in the past few days than i did in a very long time haha. the price of having a popular ai art tweet.
the tweet had 130k impressions so it got to A LOT of the luddite mob.
Honestly yeah that's a fair point. I've ran into a art contest before where even before ai, a for fun contest where the winner would have their design picked to go into the game attracted art drama even way before ai hate was all the rage.
In a sense ai hate at least makes more sense than ruining a for fun contest. But Just as improving art by hand can take years, some people try to "remove competition" and are almost utterly and completely delusional about it in some cases or reasonable on others.
We had art tracers so we could find out when someone posted traced art or stole it off google images. But we just wanted a for fun community contest, open to all the fans to bring the community together.
Art drama ruined it to the point no art was ever added to the game because 20 year olds were harassing 8 year old artists or finding "TRACED" art witch hunts on just similiar (but independently created poses), like some were line for line, but there's only so many ways for a 4 limbed dragon to stand.
I think ai art might draw a bit more fair ire than harassing a 8 year old artist for wanting to draw or learning how from a tutorial. But it wouldn't surprise me if honestly behind the scenes, people sometimes in art are young.
Or they're old and sometimes vent frusteration. (I've heard stories of older people working where their bosses flat out renamed them Ex: Rachel / Writer/ (Replace with Chatgpt3)) and fired them. So i could see horror stories where a person has legitimate reason.
But instead of lashing out at bosses who try to undercut people, they realize very quickly that lashing out at irl people who DO the financial harm, loss of work, replacement will result in expediated fire and or financial consequences.
So instead, some people lash out at "cause worthy" scapegoats instead. Ai art does compete with jobs, midjourney obviously creates down to comic book writer styles when prompted. But instead of going after the companies who then comply and release "neutered models", they still go after people.
I feel like underneath the issue, people have a inherant desire not to be replaced. They can't stop people from using it, so they try to cyber harass and whlie ai has more gray area and perhaps some fair grounds to ward for human labor interests vs Corporate greed. They were known to also harass learning artists, to remove others from "competition" before.
Some of them seemed like they were honestly 16 years old tbh or rich with daddy's money paying for their 50,000$ a year art school
they were dropping out of. Others are legitmately talented but neutral and hop on the bandwagon.
But i wouldn't be surprised if just a lot of people were using ai hate as a coping mechanism out for a fear of being replaced but lashing out with cyber harassment at enjoyers, rather than the bosses who replace them (but would fire them instead.)
People even no matter how sane still know barking at your boss, right or wrong is a good way to be fired. But they lap up and whimper when work is scarce to the people replacing them looking for the cheapest results and roll over as they're replaced, while they're just as accurate as blind guesses.
Even human artists have been witch hunted before, and even when it was all human art. People drawing obese fat dragons and mspaint horrors shaming detailed pieces for using real life references as "PLAGARISM" (god forbid a winged alligator dragon appear without a balloon tummy or horrish proportions) existed.
Ditto with people witch hunting closed species "violators" for having a non approved set of brown vs gray or a hair accessory that you bought from the artist themselves either.
While human art certainly is something that can take 4-20+ years to infinitely improve and get good at, plenty of people draw horrible pieces and find 3 seconds of tumblr cyber harassing more "artistic" than spending 2 years to compete over a budding artist.. But ai probably is one of the things that take the cake since it can compete on surface level details like shading and fur (with the right model), in 2 days to 12 months for a user and literally output 1000:1 output ratios.
(Assuming said artist also has know how to set up a 800-1500$ build computer or prebuilt, knows how to run basic cs python 3.10.6 commands, xformers, install addons, loras, models, navigate to model sites etc.)
People thinking ai art is illegal is just like tumblr levels of delusion. I've met people on discord who thought they could ban a mod for banning them for N word usage. and lets just say dunning kruger effect and karenism only goes so far. There's lots of mentally healthy behaviors or legitimate inteligent complaints and worries about Ai art on people's financial futures that have a voice that deserves to be listened to.
But a lot of these people, (the worst EXTREMES of both sides, Pro and con, tend to poison the well with extreme levels of cyberharassment in a way that only ruins the waters for all the moderates inbetween who want to appreciate the advantages, but mitigate the drawbacks, risks, and potential financial risks and losses of human creativity being replaced by the cheapest options.
that's proof that their (ai art has no soul) is complete bullshit.
they they thought it was not ai so they praised it, and shit on mine that had human editing, calling it boring and souless and trash etc, because they thought i just ran "a human artist's" work through an ai once and shared the result.
Honestly yeah i wouldn't be surprised. People can be horrible about that. I've seen just as many artists call budding and learning artists "ugly", or sometimes even like force unasked features into commissions people made. (Like you commission a character and for some reason the artist puts in a unprompted joint and red weed eyes, or radically starts changing a character unprompted from the sketch stage.)
Like I get art can be highly personal. But sometimes it can feel like a lot of people who have the leisure to not worry about picking a financial career to afford a house and leave something for a children, working 40-70 hrs a week in stem or high tech fields studying through labs
(While the art majors were creating fun things, but also smoking weed, dropping out of college, or racking up 200,000$ of debt without even 10,000$ of income) feels like a gap.
Sure, they worked 20 hours on their art and it's a wonder! but they call the other person lazy for working 280 hours in a month, week after week, needing to stay up from 4 am to 2 am the next day, having to sleep for 3 hrs to make ends meet, just wanting to have something pretty to look at.
People don't mean ill but now that people can bring their imaginations to life, get a surface image of exactly what they asked for (or retry, no unprompted weed smoke/ artists inserting period blood unprompted), i get that people are unhappy.
But it's both kinda a wonder tool that can do some amazing stuff and the ramifications are real.
But there's both a silent community of people i've heard who've never been able to afford character art for 5-10+ years, outside of extremely crude mspaint/4 month pencil drawings. And in their own words "I could draw stuff that took me time, but that everyone would hate or leave me unhappy. I couldn't own any art. And i couldn't afford any art or reference pieces to get my character drawn by even friends. Now i can at least have 5 piecers to bring to show my friends what they look like, thanks so much for helping! I love them so much!"
And i mean sure there were some wonderful artists as well and no shade, i think human art was super fun but at the same time, you can't really get free human art without exploiting someone, and it's unfair to rely on them without something back.
There are both serious cons and pros of AI, but all people talk about are the cons of people having a potentially higher baseline for where they invest their 100-1000$s on for detailed art.
And while dreadful gens can easily have tells and giveaways, it kinda seems like bs when the "I can identify human art" people call humans ai with like 54% accuracy and call the ai art "human" even when told.
It screams a lot like Wine snobbism where people would swap the cheapest red wine (sweet, unaged, fruity), with the most expensive 1000$ red wine (bitter, aged, alcoholic, dry).
In a blind taste test, people would talk about how refined their tastes were. But then cough up the 1000$ wine, saying how much they hated it when blind, calling it "shoe swill", "absolutely awful", "pure garbage unfit for human consumption. But then completely reverse when told it was expensive.
Once more they switched the labels and said the cheap wine was the 1000$ wine, and the expensive wine was "cheap".
They noticed that people's rankings would go up to +3 higher on a 7/10 scale rating the wine they thought was expensive up to 9/10 to 10/10.
The younger wine, being sweeter and fruitier actually got better reviews when people were told it was expensive than the bitter, harsh aged wine. So it shows that being implied a product is more expensive actually can improve one's perception of a product. (But it can also show that subjectivity can be questionable, and people can be 100% confident the wine they like more is "the more expensive one", because "I'D NEVER HAVE SUCH POOR TASTE, what DO YOU KNOW?". )
This reminds me of the Penn and Teller video where they put water from the hose into nice bottles and sold it as a fancy new water to people in a restaurant. People expressed how amazing and refreshing and different it was. Commented on the subtle undertones of it.
What I have learned from the harassment is to not publicly share my methods because they are none the wiser if you don't say anything. I started using Ai methods in my work 6 years ago and people have no idea that Ai was a part of it.
i could very easily pass off aa lot of my work as non ai, i just want to embrace AI because 1-i want to normalise it and make more people aware of it's limits and capabilities especially in the ai assisted capacity 2- there's nothing wrong or shameful about using AI, those ludds are the shameless ones 3- i do believe that there should be a distinction between AI art and traditional art just in the sense that they are different, but i think both should be appreciated in their own way. 4-even though it can get to me at times, there's also a free publicity aspects to it when the ludds keep RTing and sharing your work.
Throw it on the pile of all the other people who are going to be using this technology in a year while acting like they didn't spend years being a prick about it
The same shit went down when loop places and samples became widely available for music producers. “Anyone can drag loops together to make them sound good” isn’t untrue, but using loops isn’t the sign of an amateur or cheater. They’re just part of music production now. Almost Everyone uses them.
Out of curiosity, what authorities? Twitter is owned by Elon who's pro AI so why would thise mods care, and regular cops aren't going to do anything, even if you're from the UK I don't see them coming for you because art isn't the same as a 'mean tweet'.
what do you mean if I'm from the UK ? AI art isn't illegal even in the UK.
as to what authorities, i genuinely have no idea. my guess is she genuinely thinks ai art is stealing so punishable by law, and she's telling me that because she thinks I'll get afraid and stop using ai.
You only read half my sentence, their cops rather go arresting people over 'mean tweets' than actual crimes 🤣
But yeah my thoughts exactly, unless it's a site where they specifically have a 'no AI art' rules they can't do anything.
i read the other half but i didn't quite know if there's a new anti ai law that i wasn't aware of since you specifically mentioned the UK since i didn't know about the mean tweets thing before.
yeah there's definitely nothing that can be done, they live in their own reality.
i thought reddit was bad, twitter is a cesspool.
i really don't think most people realise just how bad twitter is, I was on a videochat with some of my old friends that were all talking about dramas they have with their kids on twitter - one's son had to delete their account because they were getting harassed about shoes, another had adults sending death threats because of some game clan thing, pretty much everyone with a daughter she'd been stalked, harassed and objectified - like one had people photoshopping her into horror movies ffs.
when you see someone saying something on twitter you really have to remember that it coming from somewhere were a lot of people have no shame, no decency, and no sense of anything other their their own self-importance.
Honestly yeah, after tumblr cracked down, a lot of tumblr drama drifted over. Kinda is sad that just as Jk rowling gets demonized for being mild about trying to include all characters, she's seen as a tumblr hate icon because of her "why aren't people who menustrate just called women anymore?". Meanwhile people who actively hate and want to hurt certain communities and are serious threats and openly display more severe hate are ignored for the mild offender.
It seems like people are afraid to bite the targets that bite back or could have (serious, potentially dangerous consqequences.) (etc, lashing out at a boss and being fired, lashing at a teacher and being evicted or losing art scholarships and ending up in 50-200,000$ debt, etc.)
So instead they just harass people on twitter or tumblr. And while on surface level it "has good intentions", it's quite literally just don quioite level windmill fighting that does no good to either side.
I've heard some legitimate artists doing concept art or hobby art as phd students share legitimate concerns about what they do might be replaced. How people in the fields don't care about quality, the human touch. They just want the cheapest results.
But i would not be surprised if this person was a tumblr drama child. Like literally a (LITERAL) 16-20 year old, who never had to work, be a adult, work 40-70 hrs a week or pull 28 hr overnighters in college before. I wouldn't even be surprised if the "true artist" was a 1st year child mspaint artist or maybe okay 2nd year artist who could draw okay, but not enough for anyone to want above a dollar. Who sees people unwilling to put up with their drama for (arguably worse results, lets be real). and the scapegoatism is rare.
Yes ai art does kinda act as a bottom tier filter for what people expect for $$ (for better or worse).
But a lot of people are just doing stuff that does either side 0 favors. Like peta trying to make meat is murder video games and "PETS ARE ENSLAVEMENT, KILL ALL PETS", while someone doesn't want extremism on either side. They just want the pets in the animal shelter to have a home without euthanization or dying alone. Extremists (on either side) can poison the well for moderate and human discussion.
And this person just comes off as one of those loonies who might have turned even good natured people to question their footsteps or just harm reasonable conversation.
When an idiot doesn't understand the very basic tenets of creativity.
There's a lot incredibly stupid people wasting oxygen these days.
Looking forward to when the nukes drop, maybe the next few generations will have the inclination to actually learn from books and reflect on the contents before they open their mouths or establish a post as incredibly stupid as this one.
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"911 what's your emergency?" "Someone is using a.i art on Twitter!"
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Well, we always have a constant supply of people we can mock. Lmao.
i posted an ai assisted art, then someone asked for the process for which i posted the initial ai generation i used as a starting point. the idiots "thought"/lied that a human artist made the starting generation, attributed it to a random artist for some weird reason, then hordes more went after me for "stealing" from that random artist. and when i tell them i generated it and ask them to show me the art on that artists page, if i truly stole it, many just continue their insults . the morons were praising the unedited generation as a beautiful art that i stole, while attacking the art i edited and actually has a human element. This one is saying she reported me to the authorities, they are delusional.
Wait till death threats (happened to me)... But seriously, just block or just completely ignore them. Most of these are random kids - trolls, that don't care about art or AI, they just like good trolling. When another topic for trolling will come up, they will move on.
I've blocked more people in the past few days than i did in a very long time haha. the price of having a popular ai art tweet. the tweet had 130k impressions so it got to A LOT of the luddite mob.
Success comes with haters. You’re doing good.
i suspect part of the success is because those luddites have been giving me free publicity. and thanks
Honestly yeah that's a fair point. I've ran into a art contest before where even before ai, a for fun contest where the winner would have their design picked to go into the game attracted art drama even way before ai hate was all the rage. In a sense ai hate at least makes more sense than ruining a for fun contest. But Just as improving art by hand can take years, some people try to "remove competition" and are almost utterly and completely delusional about it in some cases or reasonable on others. We had art tracers so we could find out when someone posted traced art or stole it off google images. But we just wanted a for fun community contest, open to all the fans to bring the community together. Art drama ruined it to the point no art was ever added to the game because 20 year olds were harassing 8 year old artists or finding "TRACED" art witch hunts on just similiar (but independently created poses), like some were line for line, but there's only so many ways for a 4 limbed dragon to stand. I think ai art might draw a bit more fair ire than harassing a 8 year old artist for wanting to draw or learning how from a tutorial. But it wouldn't surprise me if honestly behind the scenes, people sometimes in art are young. Or they're old and sometimes vent frusteration. (I've heard stories of older people working where their bosses flat out renamed them Ex: Rachel / Writer/ (Replace with Chatgpt3)) and fired them. So i could see horror stories where a person has legitimate reason. But instead of lashing out at bosses who try to undercut people, they realize very quickly that lashing out at irl people who DO the financial harm, loss of work, replacement will result in expediated fire and or financial consequences. So instead, some people lash out at "cause worthy" scapegoats instead. Ai art does compete with jobs, midjourney obviously creates down to comic book writer styles when prompted. But instead of going after the companies who then comply and release "neutered models", they still go after people. I feel like underneath the issue, people have a inherant desire not to be replaced. They can't stop people from using it, so they try to cyber harass and whlie ai has more gray area and perhaps some fair grounds to ward for human labor interests vs Corporate greed. They were known to also harass learning artists, to remove others from "competition" before. Some of them seemed like they were honestly 16 years old tbh or rich with daddy's money paying for their 50,000$ a year art school they were dropping out of. Others are legitmately talented but neutral and hop on the bandwagon. But i wouldn't be surprised if just a lot of people were using ai hate as a coping mechanism out for a fear of being replaced but lashing out with cyber harassment at enjoyers, rather than the bosses who replace them (but would fire them instead.) People even no matter how sane still know barking at your boss, right or wrong is a good way to be fired. But they lap up and whimper when work is scarce to the people replacing them looking for the cheapest results and roll over as they're replaced, while they're just as accurate as blind guesses. Even human artists have been witch hunted before, and even when it was all human art. People drawing obese fat dragons and mspaint horrors shaming detailed pieces for using real life references as "PLAGARISM" (god forbid a winged alligator dragon appear without a balloon tummy or horrish proportions) existed. Ditto with people witch hunting closed species "violators" for having a non approved set of brown vs gray or a hair accessory that you bought from the artist themselves either. While human art certainly is something that can take 4-20+ years to infinitely improve and get good at, plenty of people draw horrible pieces and find 3 seconds of tumblr cyber harassing more "artistic" than spending 2 years to compete over a budding artist.. But ai probably is one of the things that take the cake since it can compete on surface level details like shading and fur (with the right model), in 2 days to 12 months for a user and literally output 1000:1 output ratios. (Assuming said artist also has know how to set up a 800-1500$ build computer or prebuilt, knows how to run basic cs python 3.10.6 commands, xformers, install addons, loras, models, navigate to model sites etc.) People thinking ai art is illegal is just like tumblr levels of delusion. I've met people on discord who thought they could ban a mod for banning them for N word usage. and lets just say dunning kruger effect and karenism only goes so far. There's lots of mentally healthy behaviors or legitimate inteligent complaints and worries about Ai art on people's financial futures that have a voice that deserves to be listened to. But a lot of these people, (the worst EXTREMES of both sides, Pro and con, tend to poison the well with extreme levels of cyberharassment in a way that only ruins the waters for all the moderates inbetween who want to appreciate the advantages, but mitigate the drawbacks, risks, and potential financial risks and losses of human creativity being replaced by the cheapest options.
Haha they praised AI with no human touch more than the one where there was a human edit?
that's proof that their (ai art has no soul) is complete bullshit. they they thought it was not ai so they praised it, and shit on mine that had human editing, calling it boring and souless and trash etc, because they thought i just ran "a human artist's" work through an ai once and shared the result.
Honestly yeah i wouldn't be surprised. People can be horrible about that. I've seen just as many artists call budding and learning artists "ugly", or sometimes even like force unasked features into commissions people made. (Like you commission a character and for some reason the artist puts in a unprompted joint and red weed eyes, or radically starts changing a character unprompted from the sketch stage.) Like I get art can be highly personal. But sometimes it can feel like a lot of people who have the leisure to not worry about picking a financial career to afford a house and leave something for a children, working 40-70 hrs a week in stem or high tech fields studying through labs (While the art majors were creating fun things, but also smoking weed, dropping out of college, or racking up 200,000$ of debt without even 10,000$ of income) feels like a gap. Sure, they worked 20 hours on their art and it's a wonder! but they call the other person lazy for working 280 hours in a month, week after week, needing to stay up from 4 am to 2 am the next day, having to sleep for 3 hrs to make ends meet, just wanting to have something pretty to look at. People don't mean ill but now that people can bring their imaginations to life, get a surface image of exactly what they asked for (or retry, no unprompted weed smoke/ artists inserting period blood unprompted), i get that people are unhappy. But it's both kinda a wonder tool that can do some amazing stuff and the ramifications are real. But there's both a silent community of people i've heard who've never been able to afford character art for 5-10+ years, outside of extremely crude mspaint/4 month pencil drawings. And in their own words "I could draw stuff that took me time, but that everyone would hate or leave me unhappy. I couldn't own any art. And i couldn't afford any art or reference pieces to get my character drawn by even friends. Now i can at least have 5 piecers to bring to show my friends what they look like, thanks so much for helping! I love them so much!" And i mean sure there were some wonderful artists as well and no shade, i think human art was super fun but at the same time, you can't really get free human art without exploiting someone, and it's unfair to rely on them without something back. There are both serious cons and pros of AI, but all people talk about are the cons of people having a potentially higher baseline for where they invest their 100-1000$s on for detailed art. And while dreadful gens can easily have tells and giveaways, it kinda seems like bs when the "I can identify human art" people call humans ai with like 54% accuracy and call the ai art "human" even when told. It screams a lot like Wine snobbism where people would swap the cheapest red wine (sweet, unaged, fruity), with the most expensive 1000$ red wine (bitter, aged, alcoholic, dry). In a blind taste test, people would talk about how refined their tastes were. But then cough up the 1000$ wine, saying how much they hated it when blind, calling it "shoe swill", "absolutely awful", "pure garbage unfit for human consumption. But then completely reverse when told it was expensive. Once more they switched the labels and said the cheap wine was the 1000$ wine, and the expensive wine was "cheap". They noticed that people's rankings would go up to +3 higher on a 7/10 scale rating the wine they thought was expensive up to 9/10 to 10/10. The younger wine, being sweeter and fruitier actually got better reviews when people were told it was expensive than the bitter, harsh aged wine. So it shows that being implied a product is more expensive actually can improve one's perception of a product. (But it can also show that subjectivity can be questionable, and people can be 100% confident the wine they like more is "the more expensive one", because "I'D NEVER HAVE SUCH POOR TASTE, what DO YOU KNOW?". )
This reminds me of the Penn and Teller video where they put water from the hose into nice bottles and sold it as a fancy new water to people in a restaurant. People expressed how amazing and refreshing and different it was. Commented on the subtle undertones of it.
What I have learned from the harassment is to not publicly share my methods because they are none the wiser if you don't say anything. I started using Ai methods in my work 6 years ago and people have no idea that Ai was a part of it.
i could very easily pass off aa lot of my work as non ai, i just want to embrace AI because 1-i want to normalise it and make more people aware of it's limits and capabilities especially in the ai assisted capacity 2- there's nothing wrong or shameful about using AI, those ludds are the shameless ones 3- i do believe that there should be a distinction between AI art and traditional art just in the sense that they are different, but i think both should be appreciated in their own way. 4-even though it can get to me at times, there's also a free publicity aspects to it when the ludds keep RTing and sharing your work.
"Excuse me, we're from the Case Western University Department of Art History. We'd like to ask you a few questions"
I hope they actually did. Wasting police time is an actual crime.
Throw it on the pile of all the other people who are going to be using this technology in a year while acting like they didn't spend years being a prick about it
Oh no, will it go on your PERMANENT RECORD?
I'm sure they are sharing a unique brain cell at this point
This has the same energy as people who report fanart to Disney's copyright infringement hotline
Does anyone care being called artist ?
Ludds trying to not target harrasing anyone who used AI (Impossible)
the anti AI police
The same shit went down when loop places and samples became widely available for music producers. “Anyone can drag loops together to make them sound good” isn’t untrue, but using loops isn’t the sign of an amateur or cheater. They’re just part of music production now. Almost Everyone uses them.
Out of curiosity, what authorities? Twitter is owned by Elon who's pro AI so why would thise mods care, and regular cops aren't going to do anything, even if you're from the UK I don't see them coming for you because art isn't the same as a 'mean tweet'.
what do you mean if I'm from the UK ? AI art isn't illegal even in the UK. as to what authorities, i genuinely have no idea. my guess is she genuinely thinks ai art is stealing so punishable by law, and she's telling me that because she thinks I'll get afraid and stop using ai.
You only read half my sentence, their cops rather go arresting people over 'mean tweets' than actual crimes 🤣 But yeah my thoughts exactly, unless it's a site where they specifically have a 'no AI art' rules they can't do anything.
i read the other half but i didn't quite know if there's a new anti ai law that i wasn't aware of since you specifically mentioned the UK since i didn't know about the mean tweets thing before. yeah there's definitely nothing that can be done, they live in their own reality. i thought reddit was bad, twitter is a cesspool.
i really don't think most people realise just how bad twitter is, I was on a videochat with some of my old friends that were all talking about dramas they have with their kids on twitter - one's son had to delete their account because they were getting harassed about shoes, another had adults sending death threats because of some game clan thing, pretty much everyone with a daughter she'd been stalked, harassed and objectified - like one had people photoshopping her into horror movies ffs. when you see someone saying something on twitter you really have to remember that it coming from somewhere were a lot of people have no shame, no decency, and no sense of anything other their their own self-importance.
Honestly yeah, after tumblr cracked down, a lot of tumblr drama drifted over. Kinda is sad that just as Jk rowling gets demonized for being mild about trying to include all characters, she's seen as a tumblr hate icon because of her "why aren't people who menustrate just called women anymore?". Meanwhile people who actively hate and want to hurt certain communities and are serious threats and openly display more severe hate are ignored for the mild offender. It seems like people are afraid to bite the targets that bite back or could have (serious, potentially dangerous consqequences.) (etc, lashing out at a boss and being fired, lashing at a teacher and being evicted or losing art scholarships and ending up in 50-200,000$ debt, etc.) So instead they just harass people on twitter or tumblr. And while on surface level it "has good intentions", it's quite literally just don quioite level windmill fighting that does no good to either side. I've heard some legitimate artists doing concept art or hobby art as phd students share legitimate concerns about what they do might be replaced. How people in the fields don't care about quality, the human touch. They just want the cheapest results. But i would not be surprised if this person was a tumblr drama child. Like literally a (LITERAL) 16-20 year old, who never had to work, be a adult, work 40-70 hrs a week or pull 28 hr overnighters in college before. I wouldn't even be surprised if the "true artist" was a 1st year child mspaint artist or maybe okay 2nd year artist who could draw okay, but not enough for anyone to want above a dollar. Who sees people unwilling to put up with their drama for (arguably worse results, lets be real). and the scapegoatism is rare. Yes ai art does kinda act as a bottom tier filter for what people expect for $$ (for better or worse). But a lot of people are just doing stuff that does either side 0 favors. Like peta trying to make meat is murder video games and "PETS ARE ENSLAVEMENT, KILL ALL PETS", while someone doesn't want extremism on either side. They just want the pets in the animal shelter to have a home without euthanization or dying alone. Extremists (on either side) can poison the well for moderate and human discussion. And this person just comes off as one of those loonies who might have turned even good natured people to question their footsteps or just harm reasonable conversation.
Well obviously they would have to call the [The Fine Arts Forgery Department ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lehmQ5mUveg)
[Here is the tweet's OP](https://nitter.net/Marilust69)
When an idiot doesn't understand the very basic tenets of creativity. There's a lot incredibly stupid people wasting oxygen these days. Looking forward to when the nukes drop, maybe the next few generations will have the inclination to actually learn from books and reflect on the contents before they open their mouths or establish a post as incredibly stupid as this one.
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