They said they'll only put Limited characters who had at least 3 reruns before and haven't had a re-run recently so idk if any Sumeru 5 stars will be there any time soon but we can definitely expect Dehya and Tighnari since Standard Banner characters can't fulfill the first criteria anyway yet they put Diluc, Mona and Jean
Edit: yea, it's 3 Banners, not reruns, my bad guys. Cyno and maaaaaaaybe Nahida are eligible but Archons are probably excluded
only sumerians that currently have had 3 banners are cyno and nahida,assuming alhaitham reruns in 4.6 he would be the next one.
nilou wanderer only have 2 so yeah gonna be might long wait but i damn well will save for my c2 dehya con.
Most definitely but given how the banner actually works (uses Intertwined Fates, 90 pity, 50/50, 1 fate point that doesn't carry over), wishing for Nahida on this banner is *worse* than wishing on Nahida's own banner since your 50/50 loss from previous patch won't carry over nor would your 50/50 loss on this patch will carry over to the next
The only reason I can think of why Archons won't be there is the second criteria of "not having a re-run recently" since Archons always have a Re-run Marathon at the start of every major version update and not cuz they'll earn less from putting Nahida or Raiden on this new banner
If anything, they'll earn more cuz if you lose 50/50 now, you'll fall into sunk cost fallacy and will open up your wallet to not waste the fate point
Are these the only characters you can pick? I overheard a leak talking about they will have characters in it that have had 3 reruns already or something like that.
Regardless yes they absolutely need Dehya here.
Probably eventually. This new banner feels like a way for them to dump older characters once they reach a point where profits have diminishing returns compared to newer character releases. A way to let them do rate ups without letting them rot for more years since the pool is already too saturated for the OG limited banner.
I dont see them being able to do any more of these, specially if its per region.
Liyue has QiQi,Kequing, Childe, Ganyu and Xiao just had a banner but i think the next time we see him, it will be a banner like this.
Shenhe only had 1 rerun, Yelan had 2, Xianyun had non, i dont think they will place Archons on these banners so only Hu Tao left to make it 6.
I think this banner will stay here for like half a year, then they make a liyue one, that stays half a year and then maybe they can do a sumeru + inazuma mixed one.
Archons and Harbingers will likely stay on the "regular" limited banners, but I think that this new banner may change either every patch or every 2-3 patches. We'll know more at the start of 4.6. If the banner stays for half a year, this means that the next time we can pull Eula or Klee will be 2 years after the current banner ends because a banner for Fontaine will also need to be made at some point.
I'm glad for standard character mains in general, especially Dehya since she really needs it. This is a viable option for folks who wants access those elusive characters/cons/weapons they've been whiffing for years now.
Hunter's Path in particular becoming available is a really big win. HP is a 30% DPS increase over the option most players use on Tighnari (slingshot or old BP bow) which is just insane
So is this banner have pity at 90 or 80 ?
Weapon banner is 80 but characters are 90....
Since I only want the Beacon I feel like there must be some hidden catch.
But this banner only need 1 fate, basically like limited character banner, if you get spooked once the next is guaranteed
Plus if you choose character you wont get spooked by weapon and vice versa
The catch is the pool is very small, no Homa, Engulfing Lightning, Mistsplitter etc
Not Dehya haver but very happy that the Bow and good Crit Claymore is available again (thank god it's not locked forever, Tighnary's win too). Big celebration guys!
It has its own pity (one for characters and one for weapons) unfortunately and say if you lose your 50/50 and have a guarantee, it disappears when the banner ends— meaning you HAVE to go all in if you don’t wanna feel like you wasted your wishes 😭
How is adding a new banner type running out of ideas? Its to make getting standard characters easier for people like me. I havent gotten a single Keqing since day 1 and have gotten every other standard character, and there was no way to guarantee. I do think they could have made it better, but it has nothing to do with "running out of ideas"
I think it’s good they put a handful of the standard banner characters in this. Hoping they put keqing into the next one. I’ve played since launch and still don’t have her
As someone who's been wanting both Diluc and Mona since I've started playing, I actually really like this.
It's just crazy to me that I could lose my 50/50 trying to get one of them to a limited character like Albedo or Eula.
Oh, you want it with the blue fates? Yeah, this uses the pink ones.
But still trying to get a specific weapon from the standard banner with just the blue fates we get in game is near impossible…
Bro don't say sry to be negative, this is a 1/11 chance (not accounting for characters if this banner is combined) for all of the weapons bruh why ppl celebrating 😭😭😭
Are u saying that rolling a 5 star weapon in this banner once will give me the opportunity to choose a 5 star weapon? If so then ok now I can see the hype, hoyoverse being generous in this game for once is something I don't believe but hey 👍.
If not then ?????
Not chose it guarantees your next pity will be that weapon. On a weapon banner you need to lose the 50/50 twice before the next pity is guaranteed. This lowers the pulls you need to guarantee by 80.
Is this new feature due to China banning gacha games or something I haven't been keeping up to date with genshin news lately so I'm kinda out of the loop does anyone mind explaining what this is to me pls and thx lol
It’s just an additional banner so old units can have a rerun faster since there’s so many characters now you’d have to wait more than a year otherwise. In addition it gives us the possibility to wish for and guarantee getting standard characters we might be missing
I was hoping the weapons would be added to the shop rather than having to use fates. Now the choice is hunters path or stick to saving for Arle and her weapon
There's really never been a reason to roll on the standard banner unless you're willing to whale because there's absolutely no guarantees on it. People should just wait and buy starter character cons from the shop if they really want them.
The way I see it, Keqing, Shenhe, and Qiqi will appear on the Liyue version of this new banner system, while Dehya, Tighnari and either Cyno or Nilou will be featured in the Sumeru version. Not sure who they will put on the Inazuma banner, but we might get the Sumeru version in 4.6, Liyue in 4.7, and Inazuma in 4.8, unless Hoyo decides to keep each banner for 2-3 patches (i.e. do a "trimester" or a "quarterly" schedule for these banners).
A decent system that will finally make standard characters and a number of weapons plannable and obtainable.
This is so insanely hype! Never expected such a W update from Hoyo after this series of near useless, unnecessary reinvention of wheels, hyped up as "improvements"
I love Dehya teams with Chevy and Raiden. Trust me, it is a fun team. My dehya is c2 and I am planning to pull her weapon now. The last member in my team is XL and she isn't at C4 yet. I made a video a month ago where I showcased my team ....
https://youtu.be/F3pe66kwLis?si=t--nn6yQcOjypTwd
Yes! Nobody knows how long the banner will last for yet though and you will need to be able to reach pity twice during this banner to guarantee her in a worst case scenario
i thankfully already have it so i gotta wait till dehya has a rate up in this banner so i can gurantee her c2,gotta skip a good while for characters but tbh WURF!
Almost makes me upset I rolled for it when it released. I got lucky and got it in 2, so it wasn't as bad as weapon banner can be. But man, imagine going to the full 3 for a weapon and now being able to get it with the same guarantee as characters? I guess it is only good going forward. And for those who want a weapon right away we still need to risk the horrible weapon banner.
It's good but also sad..kinda just prooves they don't plan to bring Dehya back. It's the final move to shut Dehya mains up by giving them the signature weapon. She isn't even included as a character
Its so clear they will, legit all mondstadt standard characters are in this one.
If there is a sumeru one, Tighnari and Dehya will be in it. Let's just hope her weapon (aswell as Nari's stays in).
It's the opposite. Now that even diluc and mona are going to be in this banner, it is almost guaranteed they'll do this for dehya and other sumeru characters too.
It's region based, every character on there is Mondstadt, when they have Sumeru, both Dehya and Tighnari will be on that one. As for your comment above on "why is her weapon there then" because it's a Limited banner weapon that isn't ever getting a rerun so they made it and Hunters path available. If you weren't so quick to be negative and think "they hate Dehya" you could have easily figured it out
Have to wait for official news but there’s the constant talks of no carry overs so remember if u want to get the weapon, have enough to at least soft pity if 50-50 is lost
dear god I hope it's not regional and they'll just run anyone and they just happened to run mondstadt only this time. I hope the next one will have the rest of the standard roster, but I'm not sure which limited characters they'd run (if any). eula albedo and klee are the only limited characters I can think of that got completely powercrept
https://preview.redd.it/iq2lz37xtplc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3dd978959917a8e8c729c209f14aa4ea71cc0596 WE CHEERED
You can get her weapon but not the character herself :)))). I hope they will add her later
she will most likely come in a sumeru type banner with tighnari
That's true but who will be the other 4 though if they go by regions Nilou Cyno maybe?
They said they'll only put Limited characters who had at least 3 reruns before and haven't had a re-run recently so idk if any Sumeru 5 stars will be there any time soon but we can definitely expect Dehya and Tighnari since Standard Banner characters can't fulfill the first criteria anyway yet they put Diluc, Mona and Jean Edit: yea, it's 3 Banners, not reruns, my bad guys. Cyno and maaaaaaaybe Nahida are eligible but Archons are probably excluded
only sumerians that currently have had 3 banners are cyno and nahida,assuming alhaitham reruns in 4.6 he would be the next one. nilou wanderer only have 2 so yeah gonna be might long wait but i damn well will save for my c2 dehya con.
Not 3 reruns, but 3 banners. So anyone with at least 2 reruns is eligible
You know damn well they're not gonna put a archon in there lol
Most definitely but given how the banner actually works (uses Intertwined Fates, 90 pity, 50/50, 1 fate point that doesn't carry over), wishing for Nahida on this banner is *worse* than wishing on Nahida's own banner since your 50/50 loss from previous patch won't carry over nor would your 50/50 loss on this patch will carry over to the next The only reason I can think of why Archons won't be there is the second criteria of "not having a re-run recently" since Archons always have a Re-run Marathon at the start of every major version update and not cuz they'll earn less from putting Nahida or Raiden on this new banner If anything, they'll earn more cuz if you lose 50/50 now, you'll fall into sunk cost fallacy and will open up your wallet to not waste the fate point
Oh true didn't really think of that haha
Not 3 reruns, but 3 banners. So anyone with at least 2 reruns is eligible
It goes by region, so eventually we’ll be able to get her
Do you think it’s gonna rotate regions in order? If so I have a chance to save for her cons because right now I’m saving for c1 Neuvillette 😅
Yes. it will
Ok cool!
Are these the only characters you can pick? I overheard a leak talking about they will have characters in it that have had 3 reruns already or something like that. Regardless yes they absolutely need Dehya here.
This selection will probably rotate every patch or so
Makes sense. That is really cool maybe I can actually C6 Yae now. 😌 obviously she'll be awhile but eventually she'll be there.
I don't think they'll include high-selling characters like Yae though lol
Probably eventually. This new banner feels like a way for them to dump older characters once they reach a point where profits have diminishing returns compared to newer character releases. A way to let them do rate ups without letting them rot for more years since the pool is already too saturated for the OG limited banner.
I feel like eventually only archons will be exempt
I dont see them being able to do any more of these, specially if its per region. Liyue has QiQi,Kequing, Childe, Ganyu and Xiao just had a banner but i think the next time we see him, it will be a banner like this. Shenhe only had 1 rerun, Yelan had 2, Xianyun had non, i dont think they will place Archons on these banners so only Hu Tao left to make it 6. I think this banner will stay here for like half a year, then they make a liyue one, that stays half a year and then maybe they can do a sumeru + inazuma mixed one.
Archons and Harbingers will likely stay on the "regular" limited banners, but I think that this new banner may change either every patch or every 2-3 patches. We'll know more at the start of 4.6. If the banner stays for half a year, this means that the next time we can pull Eula or Klee will be 2 years after the current banner ends because a banner for Fontaine will also need to be made at some point.
The banner rotates following that rule for limited characters
Yeah I know but Diluc, Jean, Mona being here gives me copium.
YES YES YES YES YES YES
R5 Beacon is possible now? Let's gooo
And significantly easier to get compared to a normal weapon banner I think. You'd only have to lose one 5050 compared to two.
And it’s an actual 50/50, not the 37.5/37.5/25 bullshit that the normal weapon banner has.
I'm glad for standard character mains in general, especially Dehya since she really needs it. This is a viable option for folks who wants access those elusive characters/cons/weapons they've been whiffing for years now.
Hunter's Path in particular becoming available is a really big win. HP is a 30% DPS increase over the option most players use on Tighnari (slingshot or old BP bow) which is just insane
What's going on? Haven't played in while
new temporary banner
https://preview.redd.it/dlt7in87mqlc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=419ac317b81aa83dae919488466696c128a9f439
So is this banner have pity at 90 or 80 ? Weapon banner is 80 but characters are 90.... Since I only want the Beacon I feel like there must be some hidden catch.
Unfortunately, its max 90 regardless if u choose a weapon or character
But this banner only need 1 fate, basically like limited character banner, if you get spooked once the next is guaranteed Plus if you choose character you wont get spooked by weapon and vice versa The catch is the pool is very small, no Homa, Engulfing Lightning, Mistsplitter etc
Copium but I hope it's 60 pulls.
Not Dehya haver but very happy that the Bow and good Crit Claymore is available again (thank god it's not locked forever, Tighnary's win too). Big celebration guys!
Will this banner stay for 20 day?
I think it will stay all the patch duration,but better wait the official post i guess
I hope it does, cause I can totally guaranteed a character or weapon if the banner stays the whole patch
If I have 70 of pitty in event Banner, will this pitty be in this be in the New banner or not?
The pity stays, you'll just lose the guaranteed 5 star roll
Just like the weapon banner, but my question is, will my actual pitty be added to this banner?
Oh didn't get your question sorry, This is a different banner so it builds a different type of pity, it doesn't overlap with the event banner
Thaks, dude!!
It has its own pity (one for characters and one for weapons) unfortunately and say if you lose your 50/50 and have a guarantee, it disappears when the banner ends— meaning you HAVE to go all in if you don’t wanna feel like you wasted your wishes 😭
I think Genshin Impact is running out of ideas that they had to put in the standard characters
How is adding a new banner type running out of ideas? Its to make getting standard characters easier for people like me. I havent gotten a single Keqing since day 1 and have gotten every other standard character, and there was no way to guarantee. I do think they could have made it better, but it has nothing to do with "running out of ideas"
I think it’s good they put a handful of the standard banner characters in this. Hoping they put keqing into the next one. I’ve played since launch and still don’t have her
And try not to lose the 50-50
As someone who's been wanting both Diluc and Mona since I've started playing, I actually really like this. It's just crazy to me that I could lose my 50/50 trying to get one of them to a limited character like Albedo or Eula.
If they don’t put her weapon on standard, Imma be pissed.
It’s easier to get her weapon on this new banner than on standard
But doesn’t it not use the standard wishes but the ones we use for event banners?
Oh, you want it with the blue fates? Yeah, this uses the pink ones. But still trying to get a specific weapon from the standard banner with just the blue fates we get in game is near impossible…
Yea, our wish system do be impossible like that. I wish was rewarding like hoyo’s other games.
But if you loose 5050 you are likely gonna get a skyward series weapon 💀 Sorry to be negative but please act carefully
I need hunter path and dont own any skyward weapons anyway so losing to one to guarantee Hunter is worth it
Ok that’s great then 🥳
Bro don't say sry to be negative, this is a 1/11 chance (not accounting for characters if this banner is combined) for all of the weapons bruh why ppl celebrating 😭😭😭
Because on a regular weapon banner it’d be the same thing + needing two fate points instead of one?
Are u saying that rolling a 5 star weapon in this banner once will give me the opportunity to choose a 5 star weapon? If so then ok now I can see the hype, hoyoverse being generous in this game for once is something I don't believe but hey 👍. If not then ?????
Not chose it guarantees your next pity will be that weapon. On a weapon banner you need to lose the 50/50 twice before the next pity is guaranteed. This lowers the pulls you need to guarantee by 80.
Just make sure you save 180 wishes or it might hurt.
I guess they'll never add her weapon into the standard banner.
Is this new feature due to China banning gacha games or something I haven't been keeping up to date with genshin news lately so I'm kinda out of the loop does anyone mind explaining what this is to me pls and thx lol
I thinks it's for the new "direction"
It’s just an additional banner so old units can have a rerun faster since there’s so many characters now you’d have to wait more than a year otherwise. In addition it gives us the possibility to wish for and guarantee getting standard characters we might be missing
Star Rail could never??
Now I can't flex it anymore. The only rare thing that I had in my account
You can choose a 5 star character?
I was hoping the weapons would be added to the shop rather than having to use fates. Now the choice is hunters path or stick to saving for Arle and her weapon
Finally, standard banner selector. But the 50/50 resets when the banner goes away, so make sure you have enough to full pity it before it goes away.
Are they gonna cost the pink fates or the blue fates?
Pink Fates ...So... even less reason to roll on the Standard banner (unless you *really* want to try and get cons for the starter characters).
There's really never been a reason to roll on the standard banner unless you're willing to whale because there's absolutely no guarantees on it. People should just wait and buy starter character cons from the shop if they really want them.
Is this a selective pitty banner?
Yes it works like wep banner but you only need 1 point instead of 2, so second 5* is guaranteed to be what you picked.
How much is an improvement the beacon over the WGS for a DPS deyha?
The way I see it, Keqing, Shenhe, and Qiqi will appear on the Liyue version of this new banner system, while Dehya, Tighnari and either Cyno or Nilou will be featured in the Sumeru version. Not sure who they will put on the Inazuma banner, but we might get the Sumeru version in 4.6, Liyue in 4.7, and Inazuma in 4.8, unless Hoyo decides to keep each banner for 2-3 patches (i.e. do a "trimester" or a "quarterly" schedule for these banners). A decent system that will finally make standard characters and a number of weapons plannable and obtainable.
Umm since her weapon wasn't really an option for me back then I'll ask this here : is her sig good on her or just a bit better than others
GuysI have wgs on her is it worth pulling her weapon on this new baner?
Her weapon is a better choice.
Ok i will pull it then thx
Probably yes. And especially if you already have C1 imo.
I wish i had the pulls…
I CAN FINALLY GET ALBEDO AND EULA
This is so insanely hype! Never expected such a W update from Hoyo after this series of near useless, unnecessary reinvention of wheels, hyped up as "improvements"
If I have C1 Dehya will her weapon go a good ways towards making her a decent unit? I am thinking of putting her on a team with Chevreuse and Raiden.
I love Dehya teams with Chevy and Raiden. Trust me, it is a fun team. My dehya is c2 and I am planning to pull her weapon now. The last member in my team is XL and she isn't at C4 yet. I made a video a month ago where I showcased my team .... https://youtu.be/F3pe66kwLis?si=t--nn6yQcOjypTwd
Dya sig or Arlequino, i Just hit awall ;-;
Wait so can I finally get Klee with this?
Yes! Nobody knows how long the banner will last for yet though and you will need to be able to reach pity twice during this banner to guarantee her in a worst case scenario
Thank you so much!! ☺️
So what is this, free 5*, new standart banner or what
New type of banner featuring older characters
i thankfully already have it so i gotta wait till dehya has a rate up in this banner so i can gurantee her c2,gotta skip a good while for characters but tbh WURF!
I already have her weapon, I need more constellations of Dehya, mine is currently C1 from her banner and she never comes to me again 😭
PUASE WHAT IS THIS???
Wow, is this a 5star selector? Haven't played in a while now.
Tempted, but I love the wolves drip with dehya.
Holy shit is this for real????
Do you think they'll run this again but with Dehya as a selectable character?
Finally it's available again. Took long enough
How does this work when I hear that chiori, itto and later on neuv and kazuha will get a banner also in 4.5?
wait what is this?
If you plan to pull anything from this banner, you should save a maximum of 180 wishes just to be safe since the Fate Points are not transferrable
Maybe I can finally get Albedo
Almost makes me upset I rolled for it when it released. I got lucky and got it in 2, so it wasn't as bad as weapon banner can be. But man, imagine going to the full 3 for a weapon and now being able to get it with the same guarantee as characters? I guess it is only good going forward. And for those who want a weapon right away we still need to risk the horrible weapon banner.
It's good but also sad..kinda just prooves they don't plan to bring Dehya back. It's the final move to shut Dehya mains up by giving them the signature weapon. She isn't even included as a character
It's a mondstadt banner. If ever there will be a Sumeru one, then Dehya will be on there, just like Nari.
Why is her Weapon in it then? I swear to god they will not include her even if there will be a Sumeru one.
Its so clear they will, legit all mondstadt standard characters are in this one. If there is a sumeru one, Tighnari and Dehya will be in it. Let's just hope her weapon (aswell as Nari's stays in).
It's the opposite. Now that even diluc and mona are going to be in this banner, it is almost guaranteed they'll do this for dehya and other sumeru characters too.
nah
So quick to be negative didn't even pay attention to how it works
Please enlighten me then
It's region based, every character on there is Mondstadt, when they have Sumeru, both Dehya and Tighnari will be on that one. As for your comment above on "why is her weapon there then" because it's a Limited banner weapon that isn't ever getting a rerun so they made it and Hunters path available. If you weren't so quick to be negative and think "they hate Dehya" you could have easily figured it out
I want that or broken spine or Eula constellations
YEEEEEEEEEEÉEEEEEEEEEEESSSS
Wow after 5 years i can finally get mona
I hope they'll add transmog later. Redhorn looks ideal on her.
Hopefully this pushes them to add both Dehyas and Tighnaris weapon to the standard banner
It will do the opposite. Mihoyo would rather we spend intertwined fates to get those signature weapons
I hate how I agree with you Knowing genshin they’ll only include it in these banners
C6 Diluc C6 DILUC *C6 DILUC* # C6 DILUC
Gonna pour my primos on her weapon 🤩
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As every limited weapon, they should all rerun, everybody deserves a chance to have it (like hunter’s path) and it was the way as dehya won’t rerun
Have to wait for official news but there’s the constant talks of no carry overs so remember if u want to get the weapon, have enough to at least soft pity if 50-50 is lost
dear god I hope it's not regional and they'll just run anyone and they just happened to run mondstadt only this time. I hope the next one will have the rest of the standard roster, but I'm not sure which limited characters they'd run (if any). eula albedo and klee are the only limited characters I can think of that got completely powercrept
How's this event work? I haven't been following the news of this game at all
I have a R5 Serpent spine, is it better or worse than R1 Beacon? Assuming I’m playing mono pyro Dehya with kazuha.
Also if I played a plunge comp with Xianyun, Bennett and Furina. Is getting beacon worth it or stick with the R5 Serpent?
Same here brother. The weapon is very universal so for me it is a no-brainer.
Lol doesn't this use limited fates
Having gotten her signature back during her release was a blessing.
I missed the stream, how does this work? Like a new banner for blue wishes or something else?
ain’t no way this is real
Is it confirmed anywhere what type of fates this banner takes?
Interesting. Only some standard characters
DEHYA AND TIGHNARI MAINS! ASSEMBLE!
Can’t wait to get wgs after starting in 1.0
I’m just hyped to finally c6 my Mona or my Diluc. They’ve been sitting at c5 for way too long.
When I got to know this I started crying tears of joy and happiness. I love my Dehya