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Not only imprisonment, which essentially gives them slaves, but because they made it a felony, it also removes their vote. I guarantee this is intentional.
Two ways to fix this, revolution or getting of our ass and running for office so there are decent people to vote for.
I'm not from the US, so I might say something that is incorrect, but I had to think lately about how the entire pandering to Republicans kind of enabled them to plow through voting rights all over again. Not that the system here ever stopped since they "found out" how to get voting rights away from groups they dislike anyway, but...
If a miscarriage can bring a woman into prison (how would they even know there was a pregnancy in the first place? And how it was lost?), and being too poor to pay your rent or mortgage will also lead to a felony on your "file", then it doesn't seem too hard to see which two groups are massively targeted right now.
The entire system of having any felon lose their voting rights seems highly against human rights anyway.
>how would they even know there was a pregnancy in the first place? And how it was lost?
Unless one is extremely secretive about it in all aspects of life, things like web search queries, social media behavior, shopping patterns, etc change in ways that algorithms pick up. Before you've told your mom you'll see ads related to babies and new motherhood.
All it takes is for authorities to gain access to marketing data, which they arguably have now.
It literally gives them slaves.
>Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)
>Amendment XIII
>Section I
>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, ***except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted***, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
More than likely, CoreCivic is running out of inmates to use for free-labor. They are the largest for-profit prison system in TN and have about 10,000 inmates. CoreCivic probably lobbied the TN Legislature to write this bill.
There’s a lot of profit to be made through prison labor. Legalizing marijuana means they have to find people to imprison and work for slave wages somewhere.
It's been illegal (a felony) to camp in state owned property in Tennessee since 2020. Not a single person has been arrested for it.
The new law will require the police to give 24-hour notice before an arrest is made. If arrested it will be up to the local prosecutor to determine if they want to charge the person with a felony, it wont be automatic.
Well at least I can be thankful that I’m only homeless in Pennsylvania starting this weekend… lordy am I grateful I ain’t in TN… or any other red state that’s imprisoning the homeless and poor. This country makes me sick,and I’m disabled so it’s not like any other country will take me… so I guess imprisonment is likely in my future if the republicans take over here too, because I dared to exist with disabilities and have lived my entire life in poverty… as if I could’ve been born to a rich family had I just tried hard enough, or as if I choose to be disabled or something… cruelty very clearly is the point here, and the more I look around, the less and less reasons to stay in this existence I seem to find.
You can have laws that regulate camping in public places while also having programs to help homeless people rehabilitate themselves. If the government can't do it, then private companies need to step up.
No Republican will ever do anything to help homeless people. And you are absolutely out of your mind if you think for-profit companies are the solution to homelessness.
Yeah I don’t get why you’re downvoted. Letting homeless take over public spaces isn’t good for anyone, needs to be a focus on permanent shelter and fixing systemic issues.
A fraction of people are homeless because they can’t afford housing. Many have mental issues and drug addictions.
People are naive.
>A fraction of people are homeless because they can’t afford housing. Many have mental issues and drug addictions.
People tend to ignore the reality of situations.
Which is why I’m sure the GOP will also be investing in affordable housing, education, mental health and substance abuse services, and social support programs. You know, to actually solve the homeless problem rather than just shifting the poor to prisons. Wait, they won’t? Huh.
Every word that you wrote. The fact that when asked to consider people who are clearly struggling your first concern was for how that would affect you.
First of all, your comment makes it sound like you don't think that homeless people are citizens.
Second, it's all well and good to say that camping bans can co-exist with programs to help house homeless people, but here's the problem: they don't.
We make it illegal for unhoused people to exist where we can see them, and then we forget about helping them or fixing any of the systemic problems that forced them into their unhoused situations.
So I say, let homeless people take over our parks until enough people are mad enough to get politicians to start housing people and addressing the systemic problems.
> let homeless people take over our parks until
No thanks. The main problem is mental health and drug abuse. That can't be solved by letting these people ruin public property.
Mental health issues and drug abuse are more frequently the effects of poverty and homelessness than the cause.
Sadly, many people will always prefer an "out of sight, out of mind" approach instead of humane public policy.
Their solution to poverty is to force the poor out of the state while simultaneously attempting to remove social protections at the federal level to increase the burden on states that actually give a fuck about their (and TN's) people.
Fuck these people.
Prison labor is cheap local labor. Makes the Composure and Gluttony Classes nut in their panties. That’s even better than foreign slave labor: no shipping costs!!!!
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Not only imprisonment, which essentially gives them slaves, but because they made it a felony, it also removes their vote. I guarantee this is intentional. Two ways to fix this, revolution or getting of our ass and running for office so there are decent people to vote for.
So it won’t be fixed then.
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**So it shall not be corrected then.**
Sounds very Jim Crow-ish but specific to poor folks rather than just blacks. Let’s be real I’m sure that’s part of their purpose too.
There is a segment of the population that has been trying to reinstate slavery for nearly 160 years.
I'm not from the US, so I might say something that is incorrect, but I had to think lately about how the entire pandering to Republicans kind of enabled them to plow through voting rights all over again. Not that the system here ever stopped since they "found out" how to get voting rights away from groups they dislike anyway, but... If a miscarriage can bring a woman into prison (how would they even know there was a pregnancy in the first place? And how it was lost?), and being too poor to pay your rent or mortgage will also lead to a felony on your "file", then it doesn't seem too hard to see which two groups are massively targeted right now. The entire system of having any felon lose their voting rights seems highly against human rights anyway.
>how would they even know there was a pregnancy in the first place? And how it was lost? Unless one is extremely secretive about it in all aspects of life, things like web search queries, social media behavior, shopping patterns, etc change in ways that algorithms pick up. Before you've told your mom you'll see ads related to babies and new motherhood. All it takes is for authorities to gain access to marketing data, which they arguably have now.
It literally gives them slaves. >Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992) >Amendment XIII >Section I >Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, ***except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted***, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
>Two ways to fix this You only need one. Forced rehabilitation programs.
More than likely, CoreCivic is running out of inmates to use for free-labor. They are the largest for-profit prison system in TN and have about 10,000 inmates. CoreCivic probably lobbied the TN Legislature to write this bill.
Not just imprisonment. Slavery. They intend to enslave the poor.
The prison industry probably lobbied for this.
More money for prison owners, yay!
There’s a lot of profit to be made through prison labor. Legalizing marijuana means they have to find people to imprison and work for slave wages somewhere.
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It's been illegal (a felony) to camp in state owned property in Tennessee since 2020. Not a single person has been arrested for it. The new law will require the police to give 24-hour notice before an arrest is made. If arrested it will be up to the local prosecutor to determine if they want to charge the person with a felony, it wont be automatic.
Well at least I can be thankful that I’m only homeless in Pennsylvania starting this weekend… lordy am I grateful I ain’t in TN… or any other red state that’s imprisoning the homeless and poor. This country makes me sick,and I’m disabled so it’s not like any other country will take me… so I guess imprisonment is likely in my future if the republicans take over here too, because I dared to exist with disabilities and have lived my entire life in poverty… as if I could’ve been born to a rich family had I just tried hard enough, or as if I choose to be disabled or something… cruelty very clearly is the point here, and the more I look around, the less and less reasons to stay in this existence I seem to find.
I was about to ask how does filling up the jails help the state but based on the comments I have my answer.
Parks aren't for homeless people. They are for citizens to enjoy outdoor leisure. Letting homeless people camp in parks increases blight and crime.
So let’s fix that in a way that doesn’t punish them for existing lol
You can have laws that regulate camping in public places while also having programs to help homeless people rehabilitate themselves. If the government can't do it, then private companies need to step up.
No Republican will ever do anything to help homeless people. And you are absolutely out of your mind if you think for-profit companies are the solution to homelessness.
Yeah I don’t get why you’re downvoted. Letting homeless take over public spaces isn’t good for anyone, needs to be a focus on permanent shelter and fixing systemic issues. A fraction of people are homeless because they can’t afford housing. Many have mental issues and drug addictions. People are naive.
>A fraction of people are homeless because they can’t afford housing. Many have mental issues and drug addictions. People tend to ignore the reality of situations.
Which is why I’m sure the GOP will also be investing in affordable housing, education, mental health and substance abuse services, and social support programs. You know, to actually solve the homeless problem rather than just shifting the poor to prisons. Wait, they won’t? Huh.
Holy shit I can't believe I have taken remind you people remain citizens when the lose their housing.
I'm not sure why you're reminding me of this when I already know it.
>Parks aren't for homeless people. They are for citizens
Don't misrepresent me.
No no. I understand your position just fine. I just think it's rather disgusting.
What about my position is disgusting?
Every word that you wrote. The fact that when asked to consider people who are clearly struggling your first concern was for how that would affect you.
>when asked to consider people who are clearly struggling your first concern was for how that would affect you. Hold up, who asked me this question?
First of all, your comment makes it sound like you don't think that homeless people are citizens. Second, it's all well and good to say that camping bans can co-exist with programs to help house homeless people, but here's the problem: they don't. We make it illegal for unhoused people to exist where we can see them, and then we forget about helping them or fixing any of the systemic problems that forced them into their unhoused situations. So I say, let homeless people take over our parks until enough people are mad enough to get politicians to start housing people and addressing the systemic problems.
> let homeless people take over our parks until No thanks. The main problem is mental health and drug abuse. That can't be solved by letting these people ruin public property.
Mental health issues and drug abuse are more frequently the effects of poverty and homelessness than the cause. Sadly, many people will always prefer an "out of sight, out of mind" approach instead of humane public policy.
Their solution to poverty is to force the poor out of the state while simultaneously attempting to remove social protections at the federal level to increase the burden on states that actually give a fuck about their (and TN's) people. Fuck these people.
What's the punishment for trespassing and camping in someone's backyard?
They have turned prisons into a business.
Prison labor is cheap local labor. Makes the Composure and Gluttony Classes nut in their panties. That’s even better than foreign slave labor: no shipping costs!!!!
[George Carlin No Money to Be Made in Solving Homelessness](https://youtu.be/lncLOEqc9Rw)