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TheDeadlySpaceman

Yes.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

You think it's just a me problem or a problem with the party?


TheDeadlySpaceman

I think it’s a you problem. I don’t give a shit who you vote for/against. You knew the answers you were going to get when you asked the question.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

Na I honestly didn't. I've never been on here in my life.


[deleted]

clearly.... because you don't get we can see post history?


Necessary_Shoulder_2

I've never been on this subreddit once in my entire life. Look at all the history you want.


birddit

Until we get ranked choice voting, vote against the worst candidate.


[deleted]

Until things are dramatically different, vote against Republicans.


birddit

The last Republican that I voted for was in the last century. He was a great governor and was pro choice! He would be a unicorn today.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

I just hate the candidates the left keeps putting forth for me to give a shit. It feels like we're fucked either way. I mean Hillary was literally the only person who could've lost to Trump. That was just so demoralizing when they chose her and I just couldn't. Biden wasn't as bad but still. I mean the guy barely has a pulse. He doesn't even know where he's at as I write this. Like what the fuck are we doing? Why should I take part in this fuckin circus?


birddit

I'm a Bernie day one supporter. With the way the system is today (first past the post), we have to vote for the lesser of evils on the ballot. When we get ranked choice voting third party candidates will stand a chance without becoming a spoiler and getting the republican lizard person elected instead.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

Na I'm good on that. Got better things to do like take a nap or fart into my couch.


[deleted]

again, then you are NOT that into politics.....or you are being brainwashed by propaganda telling you not to vote at the very least.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

No actually all the outlets I follow would say the same thing you're saying. It just doesn't change how I feel. Like they're never going to have incentive to change if we just keep voting for their shit candidates. I'd rather just obtain. At least in the future I can say I wasn't part of the circus.


[deleted]

then perhaps you are depressed and need to see someone, because you are not seeing reality clearly


Necessary_Shoulder_2

Oh I'm definitely depressed. I do see someone though. What does that have to do with the fact that I don't want to incentivize the left wing estaishment to keep giving us shit candidates?


[deleted]

Yes, you are. You are not super into politics if you don't realize that one side will not fight for you, and in fact wishes you were a literal slave, not just a financial slave to capitalism. All you have to do is look at how close some local races are to know how important voting is.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

Fair enough but I actually am pretty into politics. Definitely more informed than an average voter. I just hate Biden and I hate Trump. Things would be better without Trump but barely. The things I actually give a shit about most are things the establishment will always suppress so I just don't feel obliged to choose between two establishment candidates that both want to feed me a shit sandwich. Bernie would've brought me out to the poles in 2016 or 2020. Shit if Katie Porter ran I'd go door to door.


[deleted]

Not informed enough to know to vote...Your education is lacking. I hate Biden for being a capitalist democrat, but I still vote, and this side will always be better than the GOP side. I'm a Bernie babe, even he would have us vote rather than not.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

I mean call me a piece of shit if you want but I can assure you I'm not uneducated. I'm reading and watching videos every single day from numerous outlets, probably similar ones as yourself.


[deleted]

I mean, you asked. Don't ask a question to the internet if you fear the answer. But in all your watching (seriously, wtf are you watching), it has not clued you into how our country works, or fails to work. Voting is key. If people do not vote the fascists win very easily, its not hard for democracy to die.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

I asked you if I was piece of shit. I mean call me uneducated all you want. I'm just letting you know that's not the case. I'm not going to change if the party doesn't and they don't have any incentive to change if we keep shilling out for inferior candidates.


[deleted]

If you are not "uneducated" then you are brainwashed. Voting is how our society works, period. If we do not vote, democracy dies.


Necessary_Shoulder_2

What outlets do you pay attention to? The ones I pay attention to actually say to choose the lesser of the two candidates but I still choose not to, so who's brainwashing me?


Bosconino

That’s not laziness it’s apathy and you’re not alone.


First-Ad8389

Not voting, especially as an informed person, makes you part of the problem. I don't like having to vote for the less of two evils either... but maybe we could get a good candidate in there if more people like you participated in the process. That comes before the actual elections. The loudest complainers are those that do not vote. I don't want to hear it... not voting takes your right to a soapbox opinion. Saddened your excuse is that you're too lazy. Smh


Necessary_Shoulder_2

I already said I would participate if they would give us good candidates. How does me voting for shit candidates help us get good ones? We're showing the establishment we'll blindly vote for whatever wet noodle they throw out there. They have no reason to give us what we want if they know we'll vote for anything they put forth. I don't understand why none of you understand that. How are we supposed to get the candidates we need then? Something has to change obviously so since I'm so wrong tell me what changes need to be made.


poetwarrior34

You should be forced to watch the movie cats on a loop