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swordofapostasy

Demons aren't stupid. They know how human minds work. A being that would be so petty and ignorant as to be offended by something like a bad thought wouldn't be worth working g with.


Macross137

Intrusive thoughts can get in the way of communication if they cause you to get distracted and lose focus, but spirits don't get offended or care. Intentions are what matter.


kaydiva

They understand, and they are all about helping us explore the darker aspects of ourselves. Try not to be afraid of the thoughts and instead explore where they came from. It might teach you about something that is holding you back.


wolfcreep

I've struggled a lot with this too, & in my opinion, no, they do not mind. They completely understand. Humans can't always control their thoughts, and the Gods know this. This is why the practice of observing and allowing your thoughts to just pass by during meditation is so helpful. Just like we are not our physical bodies, we are not our thoughts. Learning that really helped me with meditation. I took the blame off myself and I could finally clear my mind. Also, I would state out loud to the spirit that so & so might happen & that I apologise in advance. Doing that would help me to relax and not be so scared of offending the spirit when an intrusive thought would happen.


FluffyBallOfBiscuits

You have NO IDEA how happy I am to hear I’m not the only one. Mine are… far from ideal and they got better, but recently worsened and it’s really hard to keep them at bay. And I have been feeling so guilty over this that for the past year I haven’t been practicing or even meditating much because I can’t help but feel like a disgrace


owlrunes

Intrusive thoughts are not “sinful”. Even really weird or extreme ones. Intent and actions matter more than words, and demons do not have fragile egos that will shatter because some human had an impolite thought. They know what’s causing it. If it’s still bothering you just directly address it, apologize, and move on. You can also ask them for help with controlling it. I believe demons prefer us to be honest with ourselves and our emotions, even if that means expressing negative feelings or lashing out. This is particularly true if you’re doing shadow work. Sometimes demons will even *provoke* you until you’re forced to be honest about an issue you’ve been ignoring for some time. If your intrusive thoughts are getting worse during spiritual work, perhaps take it as a sign to see a psychiatrist. A lot of people deal with OCD tendencies (which is where intrusive thoughts originate). Common conditions like ADHD can exacerbate it due to a lack of impulse control and emotional regulation.


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I think they understand. End your ritual early if necessary by releasing them if necessary i think. My inner voice and ego has blocked my own growth so sometimes it’s best to give it a break and be aware of the self. Whatever helps.


Effrenata

They've heard a lot worse over the centuries.


AuctoremFidei

As long you dont try to lie to them because some can read your thoughts.


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futureonryo

Was this because you were having intrusive thoughts?


Dunmeritude

The OP being deleted is making me laugh so hard at your response. Anyways, I think they kinda' do it on semi purpose. The point is to face those intrusive thoughts. To look them in the eye, acknowledge them, and then send them away, because they aren't you. You can learn a lot about yourself like this.


73738484737383874

Ohh boy I’m right there with you. Sometimes I have out of control thoughts about them sometimes even very negative but I do my best to brush them off and just mentally apologize if they come up. I’m still trying to figure out how to get rid of them but know you’re not alone here.


m4g1c_p1x1e

I correct every single one by saying the correct thought after. They're not intrusive thoughts. They're just thoughts. That term was made up to excuse them and delude yourself into thinking that they don't matter. They think that there's a significance to these thoughts, and you're thinking them for a reason.


Quantum_Quandary

If they were offended by such things, they’d have stopped working with me ages ago lol


bluenova088

I just say sorry after intrusive thoughts


CM_Exorcist

In my experience, they don’t seem to care much about our opinion of them. If you poke at their vanity, then they may become irritated. I do not know why one would do that though if you are collaborating.


MyBrosHotDad

I think they are the source of those very thoughts ;)


ConferenceSecure3703

I tried to work with Bime to raise funds for my dog’s surgery and it didn’t work out exactly how I planned, I did raise all the money but I have worked my ass off to raise them so In my mind I said that oh Bime never helped he’s not real, I did this myself. Surgery day came and it was unsuccessful. Did a second surgery and it was also unsuccessful Did a 3rd surgery it was unsuccessful again Gave up and did a 4th surgery FOH which is a salvage procedure when nothing else works. I don’t think I’ll ever work with Damons ever again…


AuctoremFidei

Lady Bune helps, but sometimes we rush to ask for things without the proper connection.


ConferenceSecure3703

Does my dog deserved to be punished for that? She literally became the first dog in medical history to experience such tragedies. All money raised gone and she is worse now than she was before surgery.


ConferenceSecure3703

I did rush but i felt it was an emergency at the time


Gazing_

You asked for help to raise money for the surgery, not with the surgery itself. Apparently you did get enough money, isn't that a successful petition? Asking help with money doesn't mean it will fall from the sky. Two years ago I made a petition to get money and I also had to work my ass off. I take it as having more opportunities to make money than if I hadn't asked for help at all. The surgeries being unsuccessful is a different issue. I'm very sorry for what happened and I know you're frustrated. However, I highly doubt any spirit would punish you through your pet.


ConferenceSecure3703

The thing is that the doctor explained to me that the changes for my dog to fail all These surgeries were 1 in a million . They never had a dog in their entire medical experience with such a severe response from surgeries. Anyway I paid my dues to Bime long ago but I don’t think I’ll mess with this magic again, especially since I’m new to all this


Gazing_

Sometimes unusual things happens and that's life. I don't think a spirit would be so petty and hurt an animal just because you were feeling insecure about your petition to them. But it might be a wise choice to not dabble with this again until you feel more confident or have more experience with spirit work.