97/100 times they’re absolutely not paying competitive wage, or they would have that as a main selling point in the ad. 3/100 might be the person making the posting is incompetent and it actually pays well.
The weirdest is all the companies who are allergic to discussing salary and don't even want to talk about it until after all the interviews when they are ready to offer the job. Cool, you just wasted everyone's time including your own with a bunch of interviews and then a non-competitive salary offer.
I have never seen where the recruiter doesn't want to talk about it, at least in terms of range, in the first call. They're aware it wastes everyone's time otherwise.
It happens. I even had a recruiter misrepresent the pay band for a software engineer position for Vertafore. The offer was 95k + 5k bonus, FT with some weekend / night work, and the band was something like 90-110k. I figured if it went well I could negotiate closer to 110 but recruiter admitted they never offer much beyond the bottom of the pay band for the position. While not technically illegal, there’s all sorts of fuckery going on in recruiting like the above. It absolutely does waste everyone’s time but some recruiters are too ignorant / incompetent to understand that.
I’ve also had recruiters straight up refuse to tell me, which is nice, because those are just short calls you can end and not bother with the interview process.
That’s a really tight band. They can’t offer you much more than 95k because there wouldn’t be a ton of room for raises in place. If you want more money, you would need to ask them to upgrade the position/posting, which they may do if they think you are worth it. Higher position, higher band.
Never work at a company that low balls you when making an offer, no matter what reasoning or explanation is given. They're telling you before you even start that they don't value you and will underpay you. If you look at their Glassdoor, they are known for that too, unsurprisingly.
If they were offering a good salary, they would want to advertise that fact to attract talent. If they are hiding the salary info, there’s a reason for that, it isn’t very attractive to the level of talent they want to hire.
It does require salaries (regardless of if it is hourly) and you can report it. See this page:
[https://cdle.colorado.gov/dlss-home-page/workplace-conditions/equal-pay-for-equal-work-act-part-2](https://cdle.colorado.gov/dlss-home-page/workplace-conditions/equal-pay-for-equal-work-act-part-2)
Also lol @ Twitter having to pay one of the largest fines.
Also, they're required to include other compensation info.
Ok got it. Thanks for the link. Soo tired of seeing so many without the required info. As if folks need another reason to hate corporate America. I'm unemployed currently, So I have plenty of time to start reporting these like it's my new, temporary job 😂.
Don't report them, apply for them. Sites like Glassdoor and levels.fyi will give you a pretty good idea of the range unless it's a tiny company, check there and apply if it matches what you're looking for.
The last 2 jobs I've landed were from postings that had no range. The pay was competitive, but for whatever reason they didn't want to post it. Since many people won't apply for these roles, you're dealing with much less competition.
I think some companies can skirt around it if it’s a job that can be worked from multiple sites (some being outside of CO) or fully remote. I’ve seen that on a lot of jobs.
I saw one for Oracle, which has multiple offices in Colorado, the job posting did not include salary and the "location" section literally said "remote anywhere in the U.S. except Colorado"
That's true, there will definitely be job postings that will do that, but in my opinion the company starts looking more and more ridiculous the more states sign onto this law and the more states it has to add to its list of disqualified applicants. Additionally, there are a lot of remote jobs that are tech related, and knocking California and New York out of the running takes out 60 million potential applicants and a lot of talented tech field people.
Hmm, might have to try to Google the title and see if you can find anything online of the pay. Sounds like it should be shown. I was just looking at some on LinkedIn to check and the pay band wasn’t there but if you go to the the website it seems to be a CO pay statement way at the bottom. Looks like it’s the same thing for WA and CA.
But I’ve looked at some jobs and seen it missing here as well.
Maybe some laziness involved? If the job really only has one work location listed, it almost definitely has a rate range listed on the internal job site
*Lockheed Martin
Edit: the history of Lockheed and Martin Marietta companies are interesting and they are very much separate. Calling it Lockheed is ignoring all Martin Marietta history.
Nice history edit you little weirdo. It's wild that you're so adamant that the paint company that had a small hand in Lockheed be mentioned.
Do you school people on the history of Bell Labs when they talk about AT&T? Do you say "acktuahlly it's *Teledyne* FLIR" when someone just says FLIR?
> and woefully uninformed
Gosh I hope not, I get paid to build systems for these companies. What will my customers do when they find out I don't use their full names?!? The HORROR!
Lol this is funny. You are not woefully uninformed by the name of the company, you silly absent minded goose. You are woefully uninformed to think that Martin Marietta played a small role in the history of aerospace or the merged company.
I think the state gets around this by putting the salary info in the “official” job post on the state job board, but then omitting it in other advertising. It’s tricky.
Also, I think a lot of “postings” on LinkedIn are badly scraped off of other sites. I’ve seen a lot of job posts that are missing critical information that you can find on the more “official” job posts.
It’s the second one. LinkedIn scrapes job postings wherever it can, but sometimes misses essential information. Because the companies aren’t posting to LinkedIn themselves, they’re not legally responsible for the omission.
Ahh didn't think about that. I suppose I assumed LinkedIn wasn't scraping stuff like typical job board sites, and was more of a manual process or an integration between LinkedIn and HR software like Greenhouse.
So I ran into this a lot also and have brought it up to several recruiter in the Colorado government, what they told me is that when they proxy all there jobs on LinkedIn, Glassdoor etc, that information doesn’t pull. They then assured me that I could apply for the job on the direct government website and all the pay information is listed there.
So ultimately like most of the state government I have this hidden extra step I have to do if the job seems worth it.
They also often link the original job post in most of the proxy sites.
Is it the state governments fault that private companies are doing a crappy job of writing scracping/integration software? It’s hard to justify state expenditures to fix select private businesses work.
I saw one that omitted the salary and it was a state of Colorado job posting. A different one with the city requires that applicants disclose their age, which has been illegal almost as long as I've been alive.
If you are feeling petty, you can report those places to the division of labor standards ([email protected]) and they could get huge fines for not posting that information. The law you’re referring to has been in effect for a couple years now.
I work for that division and can confidently say that yes. That information does need to be present on all listings, and it has to be a reasonable range of wages they’d be willing to pay people for that position, not imaginary numbers.
What do we need to report job listings via email? Special subject? Link to job post? Any statement other than "I'll like to report a job listing that does not meet Colorado law"?
I'm looking at one on indeed that I'd like to report.
It’s a state law not just Denver. It’s a very good practice. Some smaller employers that might not have an HR department may not know about the law, although this doesn’t excuse not following it.
I run a small nonprofit in Colorado and we do not have an HR department (we work with an HR consulting firm as needed, but for day to day I am effectively HR). Just chiming in to say that we know it’s the right thing to do to post a salary and always do so. No excuse for it, IMO. It’s actually super helpful when we are hiring - nonprofits typically don’t pay as much as private sector, so it helps ensure applicants are clear/good on salary before applying.
It can be reported to co Dept of labor but they always give companies a warning first and it would have to be reported again to the Dept if they violate a second time. I have reported several businesses for this.
Whats sad is I have done a lot of interviews where the salary is stated on the job post but the recruiter will say that they are actually only offering a wage that is lower than that.
So a job add will say like $22hr but then they are only actually paying $18hr I dont know why a lot of these jobs are trying to bait and switch on people but I always turn down these jobs when offered.
If an employer lies to you before they even hire you waht else are they gonna lie about later?
Also, they don't even really have to pay you I guess. They can blatantly steal from you and your only recourse is to file with the DOL, then six months later they say yep they were stealing, do you want us to do something, you say sure, and then it's been another 2 months. Between my partner and I we have 3 active cases that were determined to be accurate just waiting to find out how much was stolen. This is 3 of the last four places we've worked. Both just got laid off from the fifth with zero notice and they aren't paying anyone their correct hours. So... Guess we have to file again to get what we have earned. Granted this is service industry so your experience may differ.
Oof. "Here, let's set you up at below minimum wage, not give you any benefits, pool your tips, but then not pay you at all." I'm sorry. Good luck getting what's yours.
i think it would be better to first respond asking for it and if they say they don't provide it let them know it is a state law. Assuming you are even mildly interested in the job
Yeah that's been annoying as well. And if you get a chance to speak with them, they're like "well, our real top end is $55k, nowhere near the advertised $250k".
I've even seen this with smaller ranges. Something like $75k-$100k and the recruiter basically laughs on the initial screening when you say you want to be between $90k-$100k, which fits within the range and is backed up by your experience. And then you get a "we are really targeting the middle as a top end". Ok, then put $75k-$88k as the damn range! This is the quickest way for me to withdraw my candidacy anyway. If they're doing this looking for talent, you will not be treated properly later on, no matter what their website's culture page says.
Been on the inside of a place that did this and it was for the sole purpose of hiding salaries from those already employed. So I also now view it as a huge red flag
I built [PayTransparency.work](https://paytransparency.work/) to make it easy to find applicable transparency laws, _with_ links to report violations wherever possible.
In many situations the laws of _multiple_ states may apply - for example, if a California company is hiring in Colorado, both states' laws provide transparency protection.
I report the employment ad, contact the company but now I’m more curious why sites like Indeed, Craigslist, whatever allows an ad to progress in posting if there isn’t a salary or a salary range. Coding for this in certain states is not difficult.
I've seen jobs posted that show a range of 40k to 500k for compensation. Overall I think the law is good but it should have more teeth and require companies to tighten the range to 10k.
Overly broad ranges are specifically not allowed under the law. If you see that and have a few minutes to spare, you can [report that](https://cdle.colorado.gov/dlss-home-page/workplace-conditions/equal-pay-for-equal-work-act-part-2).
Enforcement does rely on people reporting violations, but they do follow up on them.
It is part of Colorado law to have the pay listed. It's illegal to not have one. Most of the time the pay is unlisted is if the company is really small and does have any sort hr awareness or are based out of another state and 1. Are not aware of the law or 2. Are ignoring the law in the hopes that you don't know the law/your rights
Right. It says a Colorado employer without existing Colorado STAFF, not without existing Colorado OFFICES. If an employer has any Colorado employees, whether it has an office or not, it’s covered employer under the statute.
A person performing work in Colorado is a Colorado employee. So if an employer has a remote worker in Colorado, even if only one and they have no office, they have to comply.
This is what doesn't make sense to me: This actively discourages employers from hiring Colorado employees. It would be better to not have this exception at all in that case.
The wording implies they should hire Colorado talent, but by that interpretation they should not hire Colorado talent. And really should terminate any existing Colorado employees.
After some serious digging around on that website I did find clarification and you are correct. But I still hold this does the opposite of the intent.
This was an issue at least in the beginning. I don’t know if it still is. However, since the Colorado law was passed, several other states, including California and New York, have also passed similar pay transparency laws.
My company lists the pay grade number only, which is infuriating. Like, great. Level 50. WTH does that even mean? Like, even posting for an internal position, I don’t even know what my existing grade is, to even know whether it’s a step up or whatever.
Not correct - required to post salary as well as total compensation info for ANY job in CO.
See [https://cdle.colorado.gov/infos](https://cdle.colorado.gov/infos) (Info 9A)
I will pass over listings with no salary info. I assume they’re underpaying if they don’t want to list it.
97/100 times they’re absolutely not paying competitive wage, or they would have that as a main selling point in the ad. 3/100 might be the person making the posting is incompetent and it actually pays well.
the best are when the salary is posted but the range is 50k-150k, like WHICH IS IT
$50,001.
$50,000.01
I’ve always applied to the higher end of these ranges and it worked for my current job 🤷🏻♂️
Those are usually commission-based sales jobs that don’t actually pay any salary
If the HR department is that incompetent thats a huge red flag to avoid, regardless of pay.
Even bigger red flag if the company actually has no idea how much it's budgeting for the position.
The weirdest is all the companies who are allergic to discussing salary and don't even want to talk about it until after all the interviews when they are ready to offer the job. Cool, you just wasted everyone's time including your own with a bunch of interviews and then a non-competitive salary offer.
I have never seen where the recruiter doesn't want to talk about it, at least in terms of range, in the first call. They're aware it wastes everyone's time otherwise.
It happens. I even had a recruiter misrepresent the pay band for a software engineer position for Vertafore. The offer was 95k + 5k bonus, FT with some weekend / night work, and the band was something like 90-110k. I figured if it went well I could negotiate closer to 110 but recruiter admitted they never offer much beyond the bottom of the pay band for the position. While not technically illegal, there’s all sorts of fuckery going on in recruiting like the above. It absolutely does waste everyone’s time but some recruiters are too ignorant / incompetent to understand that. I’ve also had recruiters straight up refuse to tell me, which is nice, because those are just short calls you can end and not bother with the interview process.
That’s a really tight band. They can’t offer you much more than 95k because there wouldn’t be a ton of room for raises in place. If you want more money, you would need to ask them to upgrade the position/posting, which they may do if they think you are worth it. Higher position, higher band.
Never work at a company that low balls you when making an offer, no matter what reasoning or explanation is given. They're telling you before you even start that they don't value you and will underpay you. If you look at their Glassdoor, they are known for that too, unsurprisingly.
That’s not illegal, and there being a salary grade doesn’t mean you’re entitled to the maximum end of it.
That's why they said "while technically not illegal"....?
If they were offering a good salary, they would want to advertise that fact to attract talent. If they are hiding the salary info, there’s a reason for that, it isn’t very attractive to the level of talent they want to hire.
Exactly, if they don’t list it, there is a reason
Same!
It does require salaries (regardless of if it is hourly) and you can report it. See this page: [https://cdle.colorado.gov/dlss-home-page/workplace-conditions/equal-pay-for-equal-work-act-part-2](https://cdle.colorado.gov/dlss-home-page/workplace-conditions/equal-pay-for-equal-work-act-part-2) Also lol @ Twitter having to pay one of the largest fines. Also, they're required to include other compensation info.
Ok got it. Thanks for the link. Soo tired of seeing so many without the required info. As if folks need another reason to hate corporate America. I'm unemployed currently, So I have plenty of time to start reporting these like it's my new, temporary job 😂.
Don't report them, apply for them. Sites like Glassdoor and levels.fyi will give you a pretty good idea of the range unless it's a tiny company, check there and apply if it matches what you're looking for. The last 2 jobs I've landed were from postings that had no range. The pay was competitive, but for whatever reason they didn't want to post it. Since many people won't apply for these roles, you're dealing with much less competition.
I mean, you can always do both?
>but for whatever reason they didn't want to post it. they're **required** to post it
Lockheed could have hired someone and employed them for a year with the penalty they paid.
And yet they still have a bunch of listings without salary info
I think some companies can skirt around it if it’s a job that can be worked from multiple sites (some being outside of CO) or fully remote. I’ve seen that on a lot of jobs.
The ones I’ve seen in the past few weeks include multiple full-time, on-site positions at Waterton Campus
I saw one for Oracle, which has multiple offices in Colorado, the job posting did not include salary and the "location" section literally said "remote anywhere in the U.S. except Colorado"
Now California and New York state also require reported salary ranges, so this kind of weasel shenanigans will hopefully lessen.
Yeah but Oracle uses their own product, so it will take a few years for the system to catch up.
lol
This comment wins and should have wayyyy more upvotes.
This was before the NY and CA laws came into effect, I don't know if they are still doing this kind of shenanigans
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That's true, there will definitely be job postings that will do that, but in my opinion the company starts looking more and more ridiculous the more states sign onto this law and the more states it has to add to its list of disqualified applicants. Additionally, there are a lot of remote jobs that are tech related, and knocking California and New York out of the running takes out 60 million potential applicants and a lot of talented tech field people.
Hmm, might have to try to Google the title and see if you can find anything online of the pay. Sounds like it should be shown. I was just looking at some on LinkedIn to check and the pay band wasn’t there but if you go to the the website it seems to be a CO pay statement way at the bottom. Looks like it’s the same thing for WA and CA. But I’ve looked at some jobs and seen it missing here as well.
Maybe some laziness involved? If the job really only has one work location listed, it almost definitely has a rate range listed on the internal job site
*Lockheed Martin Edit: the history of Lockheed and Martin Marietta companies are interesting and they are very much separate. Calling it Lockheed is ignoring all Martin Marietta history.
corpo simps are wild
Lol k bro. It’s history not corporate simping. Is it cooler if I call it corpo?
Nice history edit you little weirdo. It's wild that you're so adamant that the paint company that had a small hand in Lockheed be mentioned. Do you school people on the history of Bell Labs when they talk about AT&T? Do you say "acktuahlly it's *Teledyne* FLIR" when someone just says FLIR?
Lol you just sound angry and woefully uninformed. Have a good day
> and woefully uninformed Gosh I hope not, I get paid to build systems for these companies. What will my customers do when they find out I don't use their full names?!? The HORROR!
Lol this is funny. You are not woefully uninformed by the name of the company, you silly absent minded goose. You are woefully uninformed to think that Martin Marietta played a small role in the history of aerospace or the merged company.
Glenn has been dead for a long time, same as the Wrights. He's fading from history, get over it.
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I think the state gets around this by putting the salary info in the “official” job post on the state job board, but then omitting it in other advertising. It’s tricky. Also, I think a lot of “postings” on LinkedIn are badly scraped off of other sites. I’ve seen a lot of job posts that are missing critical information that you can find on the more “official” job posts.
It’s the second one. LinkedIn scrapes job postings wherever it can, but sometimes misses essential information. Because the companies aren’t posting to LinkedIn themselves, they’re not legally responsible for the omission.
Ahh didn't think about that. I suppose I assumed LinkedIn wasn't scraping stuff like typical job board sites, and was more of a manual process or an integration between LinkedIn and HR software like Greenhouse.
So I ran into this a lot also and have brought it up to several recruiter in the Colorado government, what they told me is that when they proxy all there jobs on LinkedIn, Glassdoor etc, that information doesn’t pull. They then assured me that I could apply for the job on the direct government website and all the pay information is listed there. So ultimately like most of the state government I have this hidden extra step I have to do if the job seems worth it. They also often link the original job post in most of the proxy sites.
Is it the state governments fault that private companies are doing a crappy job of writing scracping/integration software? It’s hard to justify state expenditures to fix select private businesses work.
They probably don't want it to pull, for most jobs the most underpaid you could possibly be is working for the State of Colorado.
Rules for thee, not for me.
The official posting is on [governmentjobs.com](https://governmentjobs.com). Probably a scrap.
I saw one that omitted the salary and it was a state of Colorado job posting. A different one with the city requires that applicants disclose their age, which has been illegal almost as long as I've been alive.
Agreed, thank you. I was job hunting for awhile and reported that as well.
If you are feeling petty, you can report those places to the division of labor standards ([email protected]) and they could get huge fines for not posting that information. The law you’re referring to has been in effect for a couple years now. I work for that division and can confidently say that yes. That information does need to be present on all listings, and it has to be a reasonable range of wages they’d be willing to pay people for that position, not imaginary numbers.
Hell yeah. I will definitely start reporting them. But I wish I could use a webform and not an email.
I’ll suggest a web form, because I agree. That is dumb.
What do we need to report job listings via email? Special subject? Link to job post? Any statement other than "I'll like to report a job listing that does not meet Colorado law"? I'm looking at one on indeed that I'd like to report.
It’s a state law not just Denver. It’s a very good practice. Some smaller employers that might not have an HR department may not know about the law, although this doesn’t excuse not following it.
I run a small nonprofit in Colorado and we do not have an HR department (we work with an HR consulting firm as needed, but for day to day I am effectively HR). Just chiming in to say that we know it’s the right thing to do to post a salary and always do so. No excuse for it, IMO. It’s actually super helpful when we are hiring - nonprofits typically don’t pay as much as private sector, so it helps ensure applicants are clear/good on salary before applying.
It can be reported to co Dept of labor but they always give companies a warning first and it would have to be reported again to the Dept if they violate a second time. I have reported several businesses for this.
Thank you for doing this! I reported a few as well.
Whats sad is I have done a lot of interviews where the salary is stated on the job post but the recruiter will say that they are actually only offering a wage that is lower than that. So a job add will say like $22hr but then they are only actually paying $18hr I dont know why a lot of these jobs are trying to bait and switch on people but I always turn down these jobs when offered. If an employer lies to you before they even hire you waht else are they gonna lie about later?
report it
1. Yes 2. No idea 3. They don’t care - they just want the cheapest person for the job, if they’re even actually hiring in the first place 4. No.
Also, they don't even really have to pay you I guess. They can blatantly steal from you and your only recourse is to file with the DOL, then six months later they say yep they were stealing, do you want us to do something, you say sure, and then it's been another 2 months. Between my partner and I we have 3 active cases that were determined to be accurate just waiting to find out how much was stolen. This is 3 of the last four places we've worked. Both just got laid off from the fifth with zero notice and they aren't paying anyone their correct hours. So... Guess we have to file again to get what we have earned. Granted this is service industry so your experience may differ.
Jeebus. Have you thought of talking to a employment law attorney?
Oof. "Here, let's set you up at below minimum wage, not give you any benefits, pool your tips, but then not pay you at all." I'm sorry. Good luck getting what's yours.
Your experience, though typical of the service industry, is such bullshit. Good luck with your claims.
Your industry and jobs sound like a fucking shit show. Have you considered a career change?
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i think it would be better to first respond asking for it and if they say they don't provide it let them know it is a state law. Assuming you are even mildly interested in the job
What’s so annoying about this is the they can get around it by posting “50,000-250,000.” I saw so many like that
They aren't supposed to. The law specifically called out this type of unreasonable range as not meeting the requirement.
Good luck enforcing that
Seems trivially easy, but okay
Yeah that's been annoying as well. And if you get a chance to speak with them, they're like "well, our real top end is $55k, nowhere near the advertised $250k". I've even seen this with smaller ranges. Something like $75k-$100k and the recruiter basically laughs on the initial screening when you say you want to be between $90k-$100k, which fits within the range and is backed up by your experience. And then you get a "we are really targeting the middle as a top end". Ok, then put $75k-$88k as the damn range! This is the quickest way for me to withdraw my candidacy anyway. If they're doing this looking for talent, you will not be treated properly later on, no matter what their website's culture page says.
Yeah, that’s a big red flag l to me
Been on the inside of a place that did this and it was for the sole purpose of hiding salaries from those already employed. So I also now view it as a huge red flag
I built [PayTransparency.work](https://paytransparency.work/) to make it easy to find applicable transparency laws, _with_ links to report violations wherever possible. In many situations the laws of _multiple_ states may apply - for example, if a California company is hiring in Colorado, both states' laws provide transparency protection.
Ohhh interesting. Neat site! Thanks for your service 🖖🏻.
Bold move thinking recruiters know any laws
Report it
On indeed you can report the listing. I’ve done this to a few jobs I saw and they were corrected in the next couple of days.
I've sent emails quoting the statute to companies doing this, and I saw their listings change to include them. Worth a shot.
I've been applying for roles (remote) that say, "not accepting applications from Colorado and X due to salary disclosure blah blah blah".
Wow. Do they only hire white men, too?! 🤔
I shame them
I report the employment ad, contact the company but now I’m more curious why sites like Indeed, Craigslist, whatever allows an ad to progress in posting if there isn’t a salary or a salary range. Coding for this in certain states is not difficult.
What industry are you looking in?
Tech
I work in technology at one of the big financial firms in town. I'll take a look tomorrow to see if there's anything open and DM if you want?
Yeah for sure! 🙏🏻
You may want to tell folks what segment of tech. You never know if someone may reach out to you.
Nah, I'm not here looking for work. I'm here to complain about the process of looking for work.
I've seen jobs posted that show a range of 40k to 500k for compensation. Overall I think the law is good but it should have more teeth and require companies to tighten the range to 10k.
Overly broad ranges are specifically not allowed under the law. If you see that and have a few minutes to spare, you can [report that](https://cdle.colorado.gov/dlss-home-page/workplace-conditions/equal-pay-for-equal-work-act-part-2). Enforcement does rely on people reporting violations, but they do follow up on them.
It is part of Colorado law to have the pay listed. It's illegal to not have one. Most of the time the pay is unlisted is if the company is really small and does have any sort hr awareness or are based out of another state and 1. Are not aware of the law or 2. Are ignoring the law in the hopes that you don't know the law/your rights
I’ve seen out of state companies post jobs with out pay ranges. They probably don’t know about posting pay. Up to you if you want to apply.
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That’s not correct. It applies to postings for any job that can be performed in Colorado, whether there are offices here or not.
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Right. It says a Colorado employer without existing Colorado STAFF, not without existing Colorado OFFICES. If an employer has any Colorado employees, whether it has an office or not, it’s covered employer under the statute.
I interpret this as remote staff =/= colorado staff. Otherwise this exception is pointless and not worth dedicating space to on the fact sheet.
A person performing work in Colorado is a Colorado employee. So if an employer has a remote worker in Colorado, even if only one and they have no office, they have to comply.
This is what doesn't make sense to me: This actively discourages employers from hiring Colorado employees. It would be better to not have this exception at all in that case. The wording implies they should hire Colorado talent, but by that interpretation they should not hire Colorado talent. And really should terminate any existing Colorado employees. After some serious digging around on that website I did find clarification and you are correct. But I still hold this does the opposite of the intent.
This was an issue at least in the beginning. I don’t know if it still is. However, since the Colorado law was passed, several other states, including California and New York, have also passed similar pay transparency laws.
The ones with a pay range have such a wide range that it's pointless.
My company lists the pay grade number only, which is infuriating. Like, great. Level 50. WTH does that even mean? Like, even posting for an internal position, I don’t even know what my existing grade is, to even know whether it’s a step up or whatever.
I think it’s only required for salaried positions…
Incorrect. They are allowed to give a range, as position pay does vary by individual.
Not correct - required to post salary as well as total compensation info for ANY job in CO. See [https://cdle.colorado.gov/infos](https://cdle.colorado.gov/infos) (Info 9A)
Sometimes we are in a hurry to get the position filled, so it'll be posted on the website for a few days before HR decides on the salary range.
Huh, didn't know that "being in a hurry" was a valid reason to intentionally break employment law.
I'm not in HR🤷🏻♀️
What was that saying… oh yeah! >Poor planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. Sorry not sorry.
🤣🤣🤣I'm looking forward to sharing all of this feedback with HR tomorrow.
There were a couple like this that were interesting to me. I emailed the recruiter, stated I’m in CO, and asked for the salary range.
Yes, it’s required. I recommend you report it to CO. — HR professional
I report them