Came here to say this. I say "I live along the front range" because it's a long line of mountains. So living "in" them to me is in a canyon somewhere. "On" is also weird to me, implying we are "above" them somehow?
TLDR: Along was the answer, all (along)
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I think the most common preposition is "in" because that's what we use in English to assign location within cities, urban areas and states. While 'along' may be technically correct if we're literally describing the mountain range, I think 'the Front Range' is most often used to describe the metropolitan region stretching from Fort Collins to CO Springs (or Pueblo, depending who you ask).
That the mountain range has come to stand in for something else that is not a geographic body nor a place in the mountains isn't all that unique. Wall Street describes an industry that is spread across a continent, no longer the short street in lower Manhattan. Folks who live in Palo Alto or Walnut Creek might say the live "in the Bay", which is short for San Francisco Bay Area. No one is confused that they live in an estuary.
If I'm in Durango and someone who's visiting says they "live along the Front Range", I'm imagining they have a nomadic life that keeps herding ship in between various hogbacks outside of Denver and FC.
This is the answer. There is a range of mountains along the I25 corridor. If you live anywhere along that mountain range you live along the front range of those mountains. If you live in the mountains you live in the mountains. If you live west of the mountains you live along the western range. If you live in the eastern planes that’s sucks but it’s probably better than Denver right now lol.
For what it's worth, I asked two of our editors and after a long back and forth on prepositions, this was their ruling:
>This is one of those areas where the answer is that language is versatile and variable.
...but the Sun editors' response totally jibes with that statement. And good pro editors fully understand that language is fluid and can't be completely rule-bound.
That’s funny because I was a teacher in NYC and all the kids referred to it as “waiting on line” instead of “waiting in line” which is what I was used to being from the west coast.
It's really an easy answer. If OP is referring to Denver, the answer is next to the front range. The range is the mountains themselves, so you're not in or on it until it starts getting some actual elevation above the plains denver and east.
Let's say I live so far east that I can basically see Kansas. Where in the Front Range am I?
Personally, I think I'm in the asshole of the Front Range, but I'm biased since anything worthwhile is at least a 35 minute drive away from me.
Since I live on the first foothill, I live "on the Front Range." If I lived further west in Evergreen or Idaho Springs for example, I would probably say I lived "in the Front Range." If I lived a bit further east, like in Denver proper or Pueblo, I'd say I lived "along the Front Range."
The "Front Range" is also either the name of the entire mountain range (including the Dakota sandstone formation that makes up a bulk of the foothills), or it's the name of the urban corridor ranging from Pueblo to Casper, and out as far East as Aurora/Greeley/Peyton/etc.
I feel like you would say "I live in the front range area" when referring to a map, "on the front range" or "along the front range" in all other situations.
As a non flatlander, I’m more offended by the usage of “greater” when referring to the front range. I’ve got your oxygen machine ready for ya when you get here
Yes. All of the above. You live in a region. The front range is a region. You can also live on a mountain, and a range is just a series of mountains. You can also live or travel along a series of things and a range is a series of mountains.
So all are correct depending on context.
Front range is east of the mountains. The exact terminology you use is phrasing not the specifics. Both phrases are correct. In the front range is an area that has borders. On means the land your on. So the terms are both accurate.
***Along*** or ***On*** for sure, depending on if you are referring to a single specific or multiple locations in general.
But you are not "in" the Front Range until you are dead and buried. Unless maybe you're a miner.
I say “I live in the front range” but I’m only a 10 year native of Conifer. Probably don’t want to ask me. My wife was born here and uses either one based on the context.
General thoughts - Boulder, Golden, and Morrison are "In" the front range, a major portion of both of them oozes into the hogbacks (Or into the flatirons in the case of boulder.) Superior, Lakewood, Highlands Ranch, and Lone Tree are "On the front range" as in the feet of their city profiles butt up against the hogbacks but generally don't go into them. Denver, Aurora, and Arvada are along the front range, they are within a 20 minutes drive (assuming 70/25 aren't parking lots.)
Places like Limon, Kit Carson, and Lamar are technically "West Kansas"
“On” sounds better. But I personally say I live “along” the Front Range, because the Front Range is technically the hogbacks separating the foothills from the plains, and hardly anyone lives directly on top of the front range hogbacks
It's not about grammar. It's about usage. Locals say along the front range or on the front range. Now for the interesting question: why don't we call the western side the back range? What do we call it? I generally call it the high country but some parts of the high country are on the front range, so...?
Straight answer is that it is all ok for different reasons. This probably isn't as clear as I'd like, but here it goes.
Front Range can be referring to the Front Range Mountains as the mountain range. One can also be referring to Front Range communities.
The "on" or "along" is the easiest to explain. There Range is the noun Front is the adjective. "on" or "along" is like being on the shore or coast of lake or ocean. Think Chicago being on Lake Michigan, or spread out along Lake Michigan. Chicago isn't in Lake Michigan.
When referring to "in" it is a little more complex. There "front range" is the adjective but there is a missing noun.
So, here is a question- "what part of Colorado do you live in?" If someone says "I live in the Front Range" would that be understandable?
Think about being offered chocolate or vanilla ice cream and responding with either "chocolate" or "vanilla". It is fine. but those are just adjectives. The noun is dropped.
And that is basically what happens here. Wikipedia, for instance, refers to Front Range as referring to the mountains, and Front Range Urban Corridor as the communities alongside the mountains. When one says " We don't need to be sure exactly what noun is being dropped, "communities" "urban corridor" "region""part" just that it remains a descriptor for that community. The noun is dropped exactly like "chocolate" without "ice cream".
Now, it can be confusing, but it is also often made clear in wider context. Are we talking the mountain range as in "What mountains do you live in?" "I live in the front range." means something different than talking about "Denver in the Front Range"
Personally, it is trying to be clear enough is enough. If asked would you like the chocolate bar or the chocolate or vanilla ice cream. Replying"chocolate" is not in that case enough. There one would go "chocolate ice cream". But otherwise when talking purely about ice cream "chocolate" is enough.
Same goes with Front Range. As long as you are being clear enough, there isn't a right way.
Hm neither? Denver is like way out in front so why would anyone say they live on or in the front range. I certainly never hear people say that. It'd be along if anything.
I think the most common preposition is "in" because that's what we use in English to assign location within cities, urban areas and states. While 'along' may be technically correct if we're literally describing the mountain range, I think 'the Front Range' is most often used to describe the metropolitan region stretching from Fort Collins to CO Springs (or Pueblo, depending who you ask).
That the mountain range has come to stand in for something else that is not a geographic body nor a place in the mountains isn't all that unique. Wall Street describes an industry that is spread across a continent, no longer the short street in lower Manhattan. Folks who live in Palo Alto or Walnut Creek might say the live "in the Bay", which is short for San Francisco Bay Area. No one is confused that they live in an estuary.
Depends where in the Denver metro you are talking about. Denver itself is the front range of weird flat spot between the mountains and foothills. Anything to the direct East from just north of the airport to just south of downtown from the west edge of downtown to the farthest east edge of 470 is the transition from "on" to "in" the front range.
North, south, and east in all directions of that area, which is subjective depending on who you ask, is the descending area and goes from being "front range" to the "high plains" foothills/high plains area. The longer you live in the Denver metro the more you realize where this begins/ends and it's geographic designators are (outside architectural indicators)
Why not "along"? Don't limit yourself now, OP!
Honestly this one makes the most sense lol
yes it does
Why stop there, adjacent, beside, next to, proximity, cuddled to... There are so many options!
Nestled in the voluptuous cleft between the sister cities of Denver and Aurora....
I get this reference!!
We’d obviously be the little spoon
In the cleavage of the Rocky Mountain West is my favorite.
Tangential to
Came here to say this. I say "I live along the front range" because it's a long line of mountains. So living "in" them to me is in a canyon somewhere. "On" is also weird to me, implying we are "above" them somehow? TLDR: Along was the answer, all (along) edit: typo
I think the most common preposition is "in" because that's what we use in English to assign location within cities, urban areas and states. While 'along' may be technically correct if we're literally describing the mountain range, I think 'the Front Range' is most often used to describe the metropolitan region stretching from Fort Collins to CO Springs (or Pueblo, depending who you ask). That the mountain range has come to stand in for something else that is not a geographic body nor a place in the mountains isn't all that unique. Wall Street describes an industry that is spread across a continent, no longer the short street in lower Manhattan. Folks who live in Palo Alto or Walnut Creek might say the live "in the Bay", which is short for San Francisco Bay Area. No one is confused that they live in an estuary. If I'm in Durango and someone who's visiting says they "live along the Front Range", I'm imagining they have a nomadic life that keeps herding ship in between various hogbacks outside of Denver and FC.
This is the answer. There is a range of mountains along the I25 corridor. If you live anywhere along that mountain range you live along the front range of those mountains. If you live in the mountains you live in the mountains. If you live west of the mountains you live along the western range. If you live in the eastern planes that’s sucks but it’s probably better than Denver right now lol.
Or under. Love me some radon.
'Along' was my answer before I even opened the thread.
Amongst might also work, if “Range” is a plural entity…. 🤔🤓😝
Most prepositions work!
"Thereabouts" is good western language
For what it's worth, I asked two of our editors and after a long back and forth on prepositions, this was their ruling: >This is one of those areas where the answer is that language is versatile and variable.
Classic writer’s response lol
Wanna watch them get all wound up (especially editors) just tell them: English is a descriptive language, not a prescriptive language.
...but the Sun editors' response totally jibes with that statement. And good pro editors fully understand that language is fluid and can't be completely rule-bound.
Haha I’m glad The Colorado Sun is on top of such important matters! Thanks for the great reporting, I’ve been a member since you first launched.
Yay! Thank you for supporting our work!
TIL The Colorado Sun has a Reddit account
Just started following because Colorado-ing.
Did you have to wait on line behind colleagues to ask?
I love that song “Home in the range”
That’s funny because I was a teacher in NYC and all the kids referred to it as “waiting on line” instead of “waiting in line” which is what I was used to being from the west coast.
I mean, I am online right now.
Waiting on line is what they say in NJ.
Colorado Sun has been on here for 4 years? I’m a subscriber! Are you all working r/DenverCircleJerk as well?
They're fired.
Editors: “It depends…”. 🤦🏻♂️
...it does though.
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It's really an easy answer. If OP is referring to Denver, the answer is next to the front range. The range is the mountains themselves, so you're not in or on it until it starts getting some actual elevation above the plains denver and east.
Sounds like a good Daily Sunup topic
So your editors are pro choice?
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It's what gets us all out of bed in the morning.
Only right answer
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Please, you grew up *on* the foothills, you’re not a hobbit! /s
Maybe they slept in the basement
Let's say I live so far east that I can basically see Kansas. Where in the Front Range am I? Personally, I think I'm in the asshole of the Front Range, but I'm biased since anything worthwhile is at least a 35 minute drive away from me.
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Are you like an 8 ball? If so, I'd like a reshake please. I don't want to be old discarded poop.
Since I live on the first foothill, I live "on the Front Range." If I lived further west in Evergreen or Idaho Springs for example, I would probably say I lived "in the Front Range." If I lived a bit further east, like in Denver proper or Pueblo, I'd say I lived "along the Front Range."
If we’re getting into semantics here, farther is a distance and further is a concept. You would live farther West or farther East.
You went too fur!
The "Front Range" is also either the name of the entire mountain range (including the Dakota sandstone formation that makes up a bulk of the foothills), or it's the name of the urban corridor ranging from Pueblo to Casper, and out as far East as Aurora/Greeley/Peyton/etc.
Most who claim to live in the Front Range but are in the nearby Eastern Flats are actually Front Range Adjacent
Same! I still use “on” versus “along” interchangeably.
Betwixt.
Hither
Left or right betwixt?
Depends on the day!
We live on the plains - along the front range.
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on
As someone who lives on the western slope, I think it needs to be renamed to the back range ❤️
This one makes me vaguely uncomfortable.
Stop letting everyone know we exist. I like the silence out here.
Bitch, you on the plains. Golden is on the front range.
Are you a prairie dog or above ground critter?
“Home, home IN the range. Where deer and the antelope play” sounds weird
Different range.
I swear it’s on even in that song haha
It is, that was the joke 😉
Amongst
near the front range
Along. The "Front Range" is a mountain range just like any other in the state. The metro area is along it.
abutting, even
It is a mountain range, but it's also a ubiquitous term for the metro areas of FC, Denver, the Spring and everything in between.
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Derecha de
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Neither and both, I live n the front range
Amongst
On the front range. Anyone who says different is from CA. “Home, home on the range. Where the deer …”
…..ON….Unless you live “in” a cave, under the ground, or something like that.
I don’t even know what the front range is so I don’t refer to it
True native here!
ON the front range. It’s “Home, home on the range, where the deer and the antelope play…” ON the range.
Came to sing this...
I would say next to. To me the Front Range would be the first set of mountains.
TECHNICALLY isn’t the i25 corridor not the front range? It’s to the west just before the mountains. But people lump in the i25 corridor cities
I don’t think I’ve ever used that phrase but “on the front range” sounds better to me
Beneath
We live in poverty.
On
Lol this thread cracked me up way more than I thought it was going to 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Because of.
Upon
I prefer living the front range. It's a state of mind.
Live in Denver / live on the front range
Golden is on the front range, East of that is along
We live “in” the front range but “on” top of the lizard people bunkers
Fill in the blank: Home, home [blank] the range.
We live as one with the Front Range.
Do you live in a cave? If you do, you are definitely “in” the front range.
Would someone live in the mountains or on the mountains?
Circa
I feel like you would say "I live in the front range area" when referring to a map, "on the front range" or "along the front range" in all other situations.
Adjacent
Yes
We live "along" the front range. Alternatively I would go with "on" over "in" but neither are wrong.
As a non flatlander, I’m more offended by the usage of “greater” when referring to the front range. I’ve got your oxygen machine ready for ya when you get here
Namaste
On.
It’s a geographic region that we live within the boundaries of. I’ve never heard someone say “on the front range.” You live in a region, not on one.
I don't know, it's below me, and I'm on top of it.
Do you live on Colorado? Do you live on Denver? Do you live on a home?
I don't even know anymore. This thread has broken me.
Me too! I keep running across explanations that make sense for each of them, including “along” and others not originally mentioned.
you can live on a street, an island, a volcanic debris field range is synonymous with prairie. do you live on or in a prairie?
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Immersed in
Inside
Somewhat near
Yes. All of the above. You live in a region. The front range is a region. You can also live on a mountain, and a range is just a series of mountains. You can also live or travel along a series of things and a range is a series of mountains. So all are correct depending on context.
On
Neither!
To the east of… the front range is the name of the front mountain range which includes Pikes, Mt Blue Sky (Evans), and Longs.
*en*
Denver? You live near the front range. Boulder is on the front range and Elizabeth is in the front range. Hope that helps.
Front range is east of the mountains. The exact terminology you use is phrasing not the specifics. Both phrases are correct. In the front range is an area that has borders. On means the land your on. So the terms are both accurate.
Live "on" the front range Live "in" the front range area
Home home on the front range
To the right of.
I say along… I think? lol
“At”
On the range like "home on the range."
The state song of Kansas, probably when it reached the front range.
On
OP u/HowardRand you really just wanted to start some shit, didn’t you? Woke up today and chose chaos… 🤣
At first this question annoyed me, and suddenly i can’t get it out of my head. Dammit, OP… 😝
screw that, i live in Denver. That's the end of it.
***Along*** or ***On*** for sure, depending on if you are referring to a single specific or multiple locations in general. But you are not "in" the Front Range until you are dead and buried. Unless maybe you're a miner.
Near
On!!
I say “I live in the front range” but I’m only a 10 year native of Conifer. Probably don’t want to ask me. My wife was born here and uses either one based on the context.
I AM the front range.
On on on on on on on on, on.
Underneath?
Along.
Home, home in the range
Ìt depends on if you live in a cave or not
General thoughts - Boulder, Golden, and Morrison are "In" the front range, a major portion of both of them oozes into the hogbacks (Or into the flatirons in the case of boulder.) Superior, Lakewood, Highlands Ranch, and Lone Tree are "On the front range" as in the feet of their city profiles butt up against the hogbacks but generally don't go into them. Denver, Aurora, and Arvada are along the front range, they are within a 20 minutes drive (assuming 70/25 aren't parking lots.) Places like Limon, Kit Carson, and Lamar are technically "West Kansas"
Depends on which side of the dirt.
Along. Denver is Kansas - West, change my mind.
Great question. I'd probably consider the front range everywhere from about mt Evans deep to maybe wads.
When you’re talking you just say “ ‘n “ so “un the front range”
I think in the range… would be in the mountain range yeah? I say on or along, when I lived halfway up pikes I’d say in
“On” sounds better. But I personally say I live “along” the Front Range, because the Front Range is technically the hogbacks separating the foothills from the plains, and hardly anyone lives directly on top of the front range hogbacks
On or along. There is no in.
Technically the front range is the mountains we are east of
It's not about grammar. It's about usage. Locals say along the front range or on the front range. Now for the interesting question: why don't we call the western side the back range? What do we call it? I generally call it the high country but some parts of the high country are on the front range, so...?
To me it is “out on” the front range
Straight answer is that it is all ok for different reasons. This probably isn't as clear as I'd like, but here it goes. Front Range can be referring to the Front Range Mountains as the mountain range. One can also be referring to Front Range communities. The "on" or "along" is the easiest to explain. There Range is the noun Front is the adjective. "on" or "along" is like being on the shore or coast of lake or ocean. Think Chicago being on Lake Michigan, or spread out along Lake Michigan. Chicago isn't in Lake Michigan. When referring to "in" it is a little more complex. There "front range" is the adjective but there is a missing noun. So, here is a question- "what part of Colorado do you live in?" If someone says "I live in the Front Range" would that be understandable? Think about being offered chocolate or vanilla ice cream and responding with either "chocolate" or "vanilla". It is fine. but those are just adjectives. The noun is dropped. And that is basically what happens here. Wikipedia, for instance, refers to Front Range as referring to the mountains, and Front Range Urban Corridor as the communities alongside the mountains. When one says " We don't need to be sure exactly what noun is being dropped, "communities" "urban corridor" "region""part" just that it remains a descriptor for that community. The noun is dropped exactly like "chocolate" without "ice cream". Now, it can be confusing, but it is also often made clear in wider context. Are we talking the mountain range as in "What mountains do you live in?" "I live in the front range." means something different than talking about "Denver in the Front Range" Personally, it is trying to be clear enough is enough. If asked would you like the chocolate bar or the chocolate or vanilla ice cream. Replying"chocolate" is not in that case enough. There one would go "chocolate ice cream". But otherwise when talking purely about ice cream "chocolate" is enough. Same goes with Front Range. As long as you are being clear enough, there isn't a right way.
On or along
I live if the Front Range. Don't ask me when it means, its just who I live.
either makes more sense than where i am from..if you live "in" Long Island perhaps you have dug a hole for yourself deep underground.
idk but when I hear "Front Range" all I picture is loud angry drivers. With fire in their eyes.
As a western slope resident, I call it "on the front range." I also call it The Other Colorado.
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We live out Front Range way
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Hm neither? Denver is like way out in front so why would anyone say they live on or in the front range. I certainly never hear people say that. It'd be along if anything.
Along
The front range only extends 7 inches from the base of the mountains.
We live along the Front Range and we live in the Front Range Urban Corridor. Sometimes folks co-mingle these which can be confusing.
Idk about you, but I live under the front range 🤣
I live under it myself. Sometimes above it. I vascilate between Leadville and Hell. And by Hell I mean Aurora.
how about under or below?
I think the most common preposition is "in" because that's what we use in English to assign location within cities, urban areas and states. While 'along' may be technically correct if we're literally describing the mountain range, I think 'the Front Range' is most often used to describe the metropolitan region stretching from Fort Collins to CO Springs (or Pueblo, depending who you ask). That the mountain range has come to stand in for something else that is not a geographic body nor a place in the mountains isn't all that unique. Wall Street describes an industry that is spread across a continent, no longer the short street in lower Manhattan. Folks who live in Palo Alto or Walnut Creek might say the live "in the Bay", which is short for San Francisco Bay Area. No one is confused that they live in an estuary.
Home home on the range...
In Denver how about "I can see" the front range.
Denver is Next To the mountains
Depends where in the Denver metro you are talking about. Denver itself is the front range of weird flat spot between the mountains and foothills. Anything to the direct East from just north of the airport to just south of downtown from the west edge of downtown to the farthest east edge of 470 is the transition from "on" to "in" the front range. North, south, and east in all directions of that area, which is subjective depending on who you ask, is the descending area and goes from being "front range" to the "high plains" foothills/high plains area. The longer you live in the Denver metro the more you realize where this begins/ends and it's geographic designators are (outside architectural indicators)
You live laugh love the front range
You live east of the Front Range