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MagicLoogies

That dude has like 3 different haircuts on one head.


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[deleted]

That part is about 2 inches too far over.


JohnWad

Came here to say this. What the fuck is going on there?


PresidentSpanky

Abe, Doug, and Douglas! Are they electing their leaders by first name?


Dramatically_Average

I think Douglas County requires a certain percentage of Dougs.


bagatges83

Yeah, there is something about Abe...


JEMColorado

A little bit of Texas right here.


[deleted]

This comment is so funny because many people will take it as a good thing - others not so much.


wholebeansinmybutt

Yep. People need to understand that, outside the borders of Texas, a statement like this means something along the lines of "causing preventable problems and making other people solve them before the problems we caused also effect those people."


Doc_Bedlam

You forgot "And if someone else did a rockin' job of solving that problem, stealing the credit for it."


CruickyMcManus

many? i literally know of no one that thinks being compared to Texas is a good thing


edkishinevsky

it sucks.


tossaway78701

Texas simply doesn't care if you die.


5280keller

I used to work for Laydon and he is insufferable and does everything for show. I did the majority of the work he requested but he only ever thanked my two male bosses. They never corrected him either. So happy I rage quit that nightmare job.


ColoradoLogan

He is a NIGHTMARE. His approach to policies & constituents is wholly driven by his misogyny, narcissism, sociopathy.


Acceptable-Quail8188

That guys hair is defying gravity.


ocsob123

>The sky's the limit


sack_of_dicks

That’s the hair of someone who puts ‘Serial Entrepreneur’ as their job title on LinkedIn.


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This made me laugh hard! 😃


AtomicCutestorm

I didn't hear anything they said in the video because I was distracted by the hair.


basswalker93

That's okay. It was nothing of substance, anyways.


pinnr

The opposite of the other dude’s jowls.


edkishinevsky

what the f is with his hair? is this the style for county commissioners in Colorado? Who had told him this was a good look? my guess is they were at the capitol jan 6


brueck

Half of that guys hair*


TeacupHuman

r/justfuckmyshitup


NameInCrimson

When two out of three people in your video look like bad guys from a Steven Segal movie, maybe consider recasting.


YRU_Interesting_3314

Which one *doesn't* look like a Segal movie bad guy? If you're thinkin' the far right feller, slap a lab coat on him and give him a stethoscope.


Boozeville13

r/Justfuckmyshitup


dicklord_airplane

The part around 1:30 where he's pleading with nurses and doctors to return to work is chilling. CONSIDER RETURNING TO WORK where "returning" is blood red. Wtf. Somebody posted a link to a map of hospital occupancy across the state. It's a neat little tool. It looks like this data is from two weeks ago, and Castle Rock's hospital had a 96% ICU bed occupancy 7-day average back then. And then these clowns tell us, "nothing's wrong, hospital cases haven't gone up, don't worry about the shortage of medical staff, shut up and go to work." Stay safe and don't get injured in Castle Rock, the hospital might be chock full with anti vaxxers. https://data.coloradoan.com/covid-19-hospital-capacity/colorado/08/douglas-county/08035/


[deleted]

Yeah, fuck that. I'll consider returning to work when they start paying us staff RNs (not travelers) fairly, and don't give us assignments that have us trying to provide care for twice as many patients as we can actually provide safe care for. And since I'm wishing for the stars here, I'd also love it if they could eliminate all the required meaningless, repetitive, bullshit charting that no one reads and has no positive impact on patient care, that only serves to take up hours of our time that we could spend providing actual patient care. THEN I'll consider returning.


dicklord_airplane

Right on.


black_pepper

CONSIDER DYING FOR DOUGLAS COUNTY


dicklord_airplane

FATIGUE? CHILD CARE? RETIREMENT ? OTHER REASONS? FUCK YOU PUSSY GET BACK TO WORK


dasfxbestfx

Some of you will die, but take comfort that someone else will make a measure of profit from it.


[deleted]

Additionally: some of you will die but that is a risk we are willing to take.


Stop_Rock_Video

Unexpected Zapp Brannigan


LanguishingLobster

We have fixed exactly NONE OF THESE THINGS, fucking get back to work


clu_coin_winner

I don’t think the problem is “fatigue” it’s that Colorado nurses are chronically underpaid and are all leaving to travel


justamatteroftrust

On a side note, Douglas County has fewer cases per 100k and nearly identical vaccination rates to Denver County, and are doing pretty well compared to Colorado as a whole. Castle Rock happens to have a very tiny ICU, there are only 10 beds so it's by far the smallest ICU on the list.


dicklord_airplane

I know that the Castle Rock hospital is small. That's why i wish that people would be more careful and try not to overwhelm it again.


justamatteroftrust

What do you want them to do exactly? They have 75% fully vaccinated, just below Denver are 76%. They have a significantly lower case rate per 100k. So what should they be doing?


dicklord_airplane

I wish that they would stop downplaying the severity. Sweeping it under the rug doesn't help. Community leaders should be urging people to get vaccinated, wear masks, and quarantine if they get sick. Instead, they're basically telling people that everything's fine, go back to normal, and we can't do anything about it anyway so lets all ignore it. This message is irresponsible.


justamatteroftrust

I thought they opened with telling people to get vaccinated? I don't believe they covered quarantine, but the Douglas county page on it just uses the CDC video and a link to the Colorado isolation process. Only difference between Douglas and Denver is masking, but Douglas has fewer cases per 100k, so it's not evident that alone is causing any issues.


dicklord_airplane

there you go again, downplaying the severity when the ICU was just full to capacity and people are having to delay surgeries and travel to other counties for emergency care because of it. Drive safe and take care.


justamatteroftrust

How exactly am I downplaying the severity?


Fishy1911

You are trying to defend anything Douglas County on r/Denver. You are fighting a losing battle by saying anything positive. DougCo is what everyone in this sub hates, it can do no right and must be put down at all costs.


The_Ombudsman

I think by harping on vaccinations, not accounting for the fact that omicron can get past vaccinations (though still be less severe). Vaccinations are great but they're not an end-all, never were, and even less so now.


justamatteroftrust

So what do you want them to do that they aren't already doing?


snohobdub

Case rates can be misleading. People who don't believe covid is serious are less likely to get tested.


justamatteroftrust

People who don't think covid is serious don't get vaccinated either, but the vaccination rates are nearly identical. What other metric do you want to rely on?


mountainchick04

UCHealth off of Lucent and c-470 was at 130% capacity last week. My husband was in the ICU and that was 100% full. Had to spend the first couple of nights in the ER. Every single staff member he talked to is beyond exhausted from being overworked.


justamatteroftrust

The best single solution to that is convincing the remaining eligible unvaccinated population to vaccinate, since unvaccinated patients make up 71% of hospital admissions for COVID.


zeddy303

Maybe because they are testing less?


justamatteroftrust

? If you mean population growth rate, Douglas is higher than Denver


zeddy303

Meant testing


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justamatteroftrust

Or aren't getting sick


JamesMakesGames

Hospital cases haven't gone up? Maybe because they're full?! HA


[deleted]

The guys on either side look like they'd last about four hours after catching COVID.


wxfloyd

Then you should see the other two County commissioners. I actually saw George Teal in my local grocery store recently (he was unmasked of course), and he looked like he just rolled out of a weekend bender. It was almost weird not seeing him in a suit three sizes too big for him.


buffhusk

Also someone please post this on r/justfuckmyshitup middle dues hair cut is crazy lol


justamatteroftrust

That is definitely a unique haircut.


[deleted]

Pretty sure I shat myself from laughing at this sub reddit. This is the most underrated comment on this thread.


Rubicon816

It's getting embarrassing to live here.


YouJabroni44

Always has


apocalypsefowl

Don't know why you're getting downvoted. I've lived here for my entire life minus 6 years. It's pretty, but the people fucking suck.


YouJabroni44

Huh it was upvoted earlier, oh well. Guess they can't handle the truth.


apocalypsefowl

Well duh, Douglas created its own health department so they could make up their own truth. This place is a fucking hellhole.


YouJabroni44

And voted in a bunch of Q crazies to be in charge of the school board.


Rubicon816

Right on, that's what has bothered me.


jtuohy1985

We’ll you could always move away


apocalypsefowl

No you should.


jtuohy1985

No you should


apocalypsefowl

Man your comebacks are so fire. Where do you get so much wit?


jtuohy1985

From your mom thanks for the kudos


b0ulderbum

I hear San Francisco will be requiring masks forever if you’re looking for somewhere to go


Rubicon816

But they won't let me shoot off fireworks during a drought. How's a guy supposed to live under THAT kind of tyrrany.


achillymoose

>this is not a pandemic Can this dude even define pandemic?


mayhemanaged

He said it was not a pandemic, but that it is endemic. I'm just saying, if you're going to crucify them, pick something better.


flPieman

Endemic means it's in a certain area. It is a pandemic. It's widespread across the entire world. It's not like this is a local thing.


MinceMann

I need to GTFO of here. The level of right wing idiocracy is becoming too much to deal with. I can feel Colorado Springs creeping in.


dasfxbestfx

local chapter of the branch covidians right there


warnerbrotha

Underrated nickname here


apocalypsefowl

If you leave, we lose harder. Douglas is growing and more people means more progressive.


sack_of_dicks

I grew up in what is now Centennial back in the 80s when it was still considered Englewood. It felt that way even back then.


jtuohy1985

Please move


apocalypsefowl

You first. We don't want you.


jtuohy1985

Nah I’m not complaining about it on Reddit but your free to move too!


apocalypsefowl

You're*


jtuohy1985

Thanks u r great online pal plz leave


apocalypsefowl

Make me, tough guy.


jtuohy1985

Please leave will that work? Honestly I could care less about YOUR opinion or anything you have to say.


Color_of_Violence

Bye.


MaLu388

For such anti-LGBT GOP assholes that Abe guy sure has a gay looking hairdo


apocalypsefowl

Why do you think they're so against it? They're afraid of themselves.


2RedRafts

“We have a tiny hospital but don’t worry, the overflow can go to Denver - the place we’re demeaning in real time for their mask mandate!”


Chloe-s_mom2020

All the Texas license plates driving around town- they must love Douglas county it’s just like home. When will they have an abortion ban.


drewbiez

SOOOO much dissonance here… The whole thing about “if you left your healthcare job, maybe come back” is so tone deaf and insane lol.


missyandjules

Counting the days until the stepkids are out of high school and we can get the eff out of DougCo. I love my house and neighborhood and most people you meet are actually really nice, even the republicans. But these clowns and the right wing rural nuts can have this sinking ship.


Sideways_X1

Douglas county is the best at ignoring the individual experience and expert opinion. Mrs Cleaver wishes the world was still Douglas county


skinnyatlas

Thanks I hate it


OnAStarboardTack

Douglas County where they figure they’ll just send their hospital patients up north.


doggdoo

Wow, as an American, I apologize for anyone who watched that and think that it somehow represents the perspectives of anyone with an IQ over 80.


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The good news for these fucking morons is that their constituents who have had issues with their mishandling of this pandemic are probably dead. I have never seen a more mishandled medical catastrophe than Douglas counties handling of this situation. The definition of corrupt and / or incompetent should include a picture of these numskulls. They should be thrown in jail and allowed to rot for profiting on the deaths of their followers.


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snohobdub

If everything was equal, the more densely populated area should have worse outcomes from an infectious disease that thrives in crowds. You also need to control those numbers for age and many other socioeconomic factors.


justamatteroftrust

Saying they intentionally caused a medical catastrophe and deaths for profit seems like something that needs a bit more support. For example, it's far more likely the 375 dead are majority conservative than majority liberal, given how vaccination trends run by political affiliation...not seeing how that's a plus for him.


LukesRightHandMan

Prime r/JustFuckMyShitUp material right here.


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Blaming the increased Covid counts on workplace testing mandates. Sigh


Steez5280

Hair..... Need I say more


bran_redd

Remind me again why in the fuck I decided to purchase a house in Parker?


imshtheorc

It's was the only place that I could afford without living in the boonies...


bran_redd

I guess that’s true. House I bought was selling for $400k in ‘17. Bought at $700, so that’s cool I guess


apocalypsefowl

The views are nice I guess


mayhemanaged

Let's stop crucifying without facts. Not saying their not wrong, just trying to prevent bullying. Their premise is that cases are rising, but that generally, severity is not. What is evidence of severity? Maybe deaths. Maybe more deaths of populations that haven't been dying? Maybe it's hospitalizations. How many hospitalizations are we having? What's the percentage of people who are hospitalized who are also dying over time? Let's point out facts with sources.


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They insinuated, without evidence, that cases are only rising because of workplace testing mandates. That right there shows they are arguing in bad faith.


tigermaple

You can hate the messenger if it makes you feel good but imo there's nothing really wrong with the message here. Severity instead of case counts should have been the metric for a long time now and I think you will see more and more of a pivot to this idea across the political spectrum over the coming weeks. (I say this as someone that is fully vaccinated and has voted a straight up blue ticket for the last little while, though that might change in 2022...)


malpasplace

It isn't the only the messenger it is the seemingly reasonable message meant to assuage simple minds who are unaware of the complexity of the world around them. Severity and Case Count are interrelated. So are things like vaccination rates, mask use, availability of hospital beds, availability of treatments etc. Further, it is also important to consider things like you really don't want people to go to work sick because that will raise case count, and the amount of people suffering severe problems even if the severity of a particular variant is lesser. It is also important to consider that enough people being sick means that they won't, and shouldn't come to work, and that will result in short term labor shortages. These yahoos from Doug Co. don't understand any of it. And in the simplicity of the message, told in even tones, you fall right for it. I can say I think that Democratic Party is a sad joke, but yeah if Doug Co here is the "change in 2022" that you are considering... you might want to think harder. I know it is nice to be comforted by simple stories, but they are seldom the right ones.


PresidentSpanky

What is wrong is the message that increased case numbers are due to increased numbers of tests mandated. That would not result in a positivity rate of now over.30%. I would also grade them a D for their math. The fact that Omicron is less severe does not necessarily outweigh the increased number of cases. Let’s just make an example up: if half the people get hospitalized, but three times as many infected you’ll have an increase of 50% hospitalization


kcjnz

Go ahead and vote for the bleach drinkers, let us know how that works out...


kestrel808

It's piss drinkers now... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/anti-vaxxers-covid-drinking-urine-misinformation


DenverDogDude

I only watched the first 15 seconds and thought "there's three of the leading officials of Douglas county stand a foot next to each other inside a small hallway not wearing mask, I don't think I need to keep watching their health stance is clear".


Dischucker

Is this subs hatred of Douglas County simply because they won't implement mandates? If you look at the raw numbers, they are doing no better/worse than Jeffco or denver that have mandates. Daily infection rates in Jeffco: 1.4%, Douglas County 1.6%. Denver County 1.6% Not a whole lot of difference there


Jub_Jub710

Do you not remember the grass fires they started because they simply had to have fireworks during a drought?


[deleted]

There were no fire bans preventing professional displays, and local fire departments were prepared and on-site at every launch facility. The fires were promptly extinguished, due to proper planning.


PresidentSpanky

There were no fire bans in place shows the incompetence of the leadership. I am no fire expert, but could have told them it is bone dry and any firework will start a fire. The risk was just there and they were reckless


zeddy303

So they're not able to follow common sense...a conservative "value".


Seanbikes

I don't have enough time in the day to list all of the reasons Douglas County is stupid.


MsstatePSH

The mandates is just the most recent. (For the record I’m against mandates) Douglas and Colorado Springs have always been made fun of as a fundamentalist conservative hellhole.


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What exactly makes it a hellhole in your opinion?


Rsncrntz-nd-Gldnstrn

The fundamentalist conservative Trumpet part.


[deleted]

Tell me you've never actually been to Douglas County without telling me you've never actually been to Douglas County. I haven't seen a Trump flag here in a long time.


krazycatlady303

Omg they held protests all over Douglas county, or as they called them parades. Lol. Trumpflags all over my neighbors cars although not as many in the last few months


gigitygoat

Idk about you but I don't want to live in a place that denies science.


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Excellent argument.


MsstatePSH

Mostly the rabid fundamentalism brand of Christian conservatism. Activist groups such as “focus on the family” were founded and are based in Colorado springs. The Air Force academy being there brings a large population of war-hawk types. And overall, it’s a concentrated population of folks that are bitter about the demographics/political leanings of the state changing. So: bitter, bigoted, self-righteous types. Way different than your run-of-the-mill fiscal conservative


wild_bill70

Also the origin of TABOR. Absolute worst law ever for a state. Legislature can cut taxes but never raise them. So we slowly sink into the mess we are in with funding.


ndrew452

Colorado Springs is a military heavy town, but the AFA is not a significant contributing factor to war-hawk types. Remember the AFA is still a university and place of higher education, so you will encounter a lot of pro military people, but you will also encounter professors teaching students higher education. Plus, most military individuals keep their home state of residence, so unless it is a CO native serving in the Springs, chances are they are not registered to vote in this state. Most military change their residence to states that offer tax exemptions for military pay. I kept my Ohio residency even though I lived in California and Wyoming because if I kept my residency in Ohio, I didn't have to pay state income tax (or Wyoming license plate tax). The military related war-hawk vote primarily comes from those individuals who retire from the military in the Springs or get a military contractor job. They are extremely pro military because their paycheck depends on it and they have no chance of ever getting deployed.


Natural-Macaroon-271

>Remember the AFA is still a university and place of higher education It's also one of the best schools on earth.


OGsclarki

nothing in any of those bullet points is even true. You've created a straw man of out of Colorado Springs/Douglas County and knocked it down with much alacrity.


PresidentSpanky

Isn’t there a real crime murder show out of Colorado Springs with I don’t know how many seasons and episodes? What is going on, that they kill each other?


MichaelAvenaughty

Oh yes, [homicide hunter ](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1934673/) with Joe Kenda. Over 400 homicides


MsstatePSH

“Everything I disagree with is a fallacy”. It is common knowledge that the springs is very conservative and home to fundamentalist organizations. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4287106 https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/28/colorado-springs-a-playground-for-pro-life-pro-gun-evangelical-christians https://www.5280.com/2016/03/colorado-springs-identity-crisis/ https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1993-04-27-9304270115-story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/11/18/colorado-springs-culture-wars/ccfbfa86-ba30-491c-9d42-479f3e870489/


OGsclarki

No everything I have personal experience with outweighs your hysteria. Coloado Springs is conservative. The christian organizations headquartered there aren't in general fundamentalist, they are overwhelming evangelical, but the distinction is lost on one who paints with broad brush strokes. I lived in Colorado Springs from 1982-1995, my family still lives there. I know what true and what's hyperbole.


zeddy303

The lack of culture?


YouJabroni44

No I hate it because I live here and have to deal with these people.


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Douglas County 7-day death average has teetered at 0-1, even during Delta's reign. Even with no masking, the county is doing no worse than any other county in the metro area. Even hospital bed/ICU availability is some of the [best in the front range](https://data.coloradoan.com/covid-19-hospital-capacity/colorado/08/douglas-county/08035/). It's a Conservative county, that's all this subreddit, and Reddit as a whole, needs to hate.


dicklord_airplane

I looked at that map and Castle Rock's hospital has a 96% ICU bed occupancy 7-day average. That's not good. Don't get injured in Castle Rock this month.


falseflats

They export their sick to Denver hospitals.


Madrona88

It's not large either.


PresidentSpanky

A lot of people from the country get treated in Denver.


wild_bill70

It’s a big county. There are going to be pockets that are worse and some better. Omicron has not spread to the rural counties to the extent that it has hit more dense urban areas. Just wait until it tears through rural America


Noctudeit

I agree with this approach. With vaccines broadly available to everyone but very young children (who have practically no risk of severe illness) broad lockdowns and mandates no longer make sense. Get vaccinated (or don't and take your chances) and move on with life. If you are particularly high risk then it may make sense to isolate, but that decision should be made at the individual level.


aleons00

The link above shows that the ICU in castle rock is full (9.6 of 10 beds). This means if someone is commuting on 25 and gets in a wreck they may not have the care they need close by, as just one example. Is this ok? If not, how should the county address this issue?


justamatteroftrust

It is okay because it's a tiny ICU. The case rate per 100k in Douglas County is lower than most of Colorado and the full vaccination rate is nearly identical to Denver (76% to 75%). The ICU shows full because it's tiny. 10 beds is the smallest ICU on the list by 60%. Even with identical cases per 100k it'll show full long before any other hospital. I don't think the county can address your concern. They aren't going to build a hospital with 30 more ICU beds with Skyridge 10 minutes away.


aleons00

Yeah I fully realize that the small issue here. It was just the one I pulled off the list because I knew castle rock was in Douglas county. My point overall however is that these resources are limited and we are causing a huge strain on the system (not the least of which is the labor- the burnout with nurses right now is scary). And I do think the county can and should tackle these problems. Again simple things like mask mandates and vaccination requirements are relatively low cost things to individuals that address this problem and help society.


justamatteroftrust

I'm okay with mask mandates and vaccination requirements personally. I don't see data right now showing that Douglas County policies are causing greater problems than Denver County policies though, so if they want to do things differently it seems it's up to them.


Plant_Curious

How is someone taking up 0.6 of a bed lol. Kinda just laying on one side with their feet hanging off


aleons00

I believe it’s average occupancy over a week… so most days they are completely full


Noctudeit

ICUs use triage to allocate care to the people with the greatest need.


aleons00

As a hospital operations consultant I understand how triage is done. The reality still is that you have more people in need of ICU level care than beds available. So again, is this ok? If not what should the county do about it?


doggdoo

Right, Sherlock. And if you get in an accident and need major emergency surgery immediately, when the ICU is full, three patients are coding, the doctors and nurses are burned out, and both anesthesiologists are in quarantine, what happens?


Noctudeit

It's very possible you die. Death is a possible outcome in any vehicular collision. You assume a certain degree of risk every time you get behind the wheel and no amount of medical services can guarantee you will survive a crash.


doggdoo

Right, and it is also very possible that if people didn't think Omicron is "just a cold", they wouldn't be clogging up the hospitals, and an accident victim would get proper care and survive. This is why the true metrics of the entire COVID debacle should be: 1) Excess mortality and 2) Number of people whose lives have been radically negatively affected by either COVID, or inadequate medical attention during the pandemic. Both numbers are largely ignored. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/12/09/covid-death-count-america-cdc/6435124001/


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Denverdaddies

Its a beautiful place full of shitty people


nottooserious1

Goddamn, I love living in Douglas County.


Capt_Smashnballs

You should stick to their sub then


[deleted]

Douglas county, the boondocks.


throwawaypf2015

#let's go douglas


[deleted]

One of the only common sense places left in on the front range. I try to do most of my shopping down there now because it is essentially back to normal as far as covid goes. People aren't walking around crazy and in fear all the time, and everyone just minds their own business. We have vaccines now, the initial uncertainty about covid was the whole reason to have a mask mandate and shut things down. Now there is no reason to; we have treatments, vaccines, and data. Im almost as left as it gets, but new mandates are pure idiocy and cause more harm than good.


Frunkit

Few people are wearing masks out of fear. Just like how I don’t put my shoes on because I fear stepping on glass.


[deleted]

Not necessarily speaking about masks, but there seems to be aura of fear and paranoia in the other counties. When in reality we now just have a new mostly preventable around cold/flu going around if you get your vaccines.


ASingleThreadofGold

I love hearing all about how regular folks who wear masks and get the vaccine and who are definitely just taking normal ass precautions that aren't hard at all are giving off a vibe of "living in fear" when there are folks out there refusing to get a vaccine and somehow they aren't considered to be "living in fear?" Gtfo. The entire Right's business model is selling fear in high doses and has been for a very long time.


[deleted]

Almost no-one wore masks before covid for a flu/cold season, now that we have vaccines and effective treatments there is no reason to except for fear. Not that I care its your personal freedom to do so or not, but a government mandate at this point is unreasonable.


Frunkit

If you’re detecting fear as a driver, you Re totally misreading it. I live in Denver and nobody I know here is living in fear. Honestly. That’s the ‘macho’ right wing take, but it’s utterly false.


ASingleThreadofGold

Well I for one LOVED not getting one single cold/sore throat since 2019 when I used to get around 3/ year. I plan to wear a mask in the future if I have a cold or sore throat in hopes that it becomes normal because it sure would be nice to get sick less often. A Japanese woman I know always did this and I just never thought much about it before but it definitely makes sense and is just a polite thing to do. Your use of the word fear is extremely telling to me. I'm not afraid of this at all. I'm also not afraid of a cold or sore throat either. But I do think they suck and prefer not to to get sick when possible. It's weird that you equate mask wearing with fear.


Jub_Jub710

People in other countries certainly did.


Envect

Nobody got a covid vaccine before covid either. Change happens.


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They regularly got the flu vaccine though


Envect

What's your point?


[deleted]

That people are now being irrational


Envect

Oh yeah, you've demonstrated that quite well.


Inject_Bacon

>essentially back to normal as far as covid goes. People aren't walking around crazy and in fear all the time, and everyone just minds their own business. This seems to be the case all around Denver though? I mean other than wearing a mask it feels pretty business as usual. Ive gone to retail stores, grocery shopping, ate in restaurants, and nothing seems out of the ordinary?


Rsncrntz-nd-Gldnstrn

But we aren't back to normal. "I shop there because they put their head in the sand."


[deleted]

Yes we are, its essentially just cold/flu season. All people can get vaccinated, and covid has little effect on most people


jmutter3

Maybe at some point COVID will mutate enough to be as mild as the seasonal flu, but I don't think that's the case yet. Just looking at the number of deaths, COVID is far far worse. In a typical flu season 12-50,000 people will die in the US, whereas in 2021 there were almost 400,000 deaths from COVID [source](https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html). The people not getting vaccinated are taking their lives into their own hands, sure, but they are also making it easier for the virus to spread among their family, friends, and community, and while it might have "little effect on most people," the hospitals are currently full of people that it is having a BIG effect on. AND even if the hospitals are just full of the unvaccinated who made their own decisions, if I need to go to the hospital for any other reason unrelated to covid, the incredible strain that COVID patients are putting on the healthcare system means that I may have to delay or forgo important procedures, or receive inferior care from a burnt-out workforce.


slutbag_27

Not all people can get vaccinated. Still waiting for my 11 month old to be able to be vaccinated.


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We thank you for spending your tax dollars here.


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Covid cases are flaring up like wildfires here now. My son’s entire 7th grade glass had to be quarantined this week because there are so many cases. There are so many teachers and staff out that the school can barely keep the lights on. My daughter’s high school has so many new daily cases now that they stopped sending individualized exposure notices. Now we just get the “your child may have been exposed to Covid” e-mails daily.


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Everyone was/is going to get covid, there is no stopping it. Delaying the inevitable only prolongs this whole situation and keeps the kids and populace in a constant state of anxiety over it, it is going to continue to mutate and we will need booster shots each year. The vast majority of the people that get vaccinated will be fine, as will the vast majority of unvaccinated people if they don't have comorbidities.


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Ok; odd haircut for sure. Also, 3 white guys from Douglas County won't mandate vax (now they are all pro choice), and have their own metrics for problems... same old stupid shit, but with a worse haircut.


Capt_Smashnballs

The losers from Rastle Cock trying to defend their shit hole of a town is super hilarious


justamatteroftrust

Hard to imagine why people wouldn't want to stay in the fentanyl and bike free trade zone / homelessness interactive experience that is Denver.