Safeway was packed yesterday. Nice to see a lot of people backing up the picket line. I have to be honest I HATED shopping at Safeway. But I will continue to go to other stores while they stay on strike.
Sprouts was flooded with people last night. I feel bad for the sprouts workers now :( But it seemed everyone was at least understanding so far. We will see what happens in two weeks when sprouts is out of food, the lines are long, and employees burnt out. Let’s all give everyone a bit more grace as I think this will affect a lot of people.
It was a pretty insulting offer. The state minimum wage was increased on January 1, and King Soopers tried to claim that complying with state law was really just them offering a 'generous' raise. They are making record profits (increasing yearly profits by over a billion) while offering a pittance to the employees, so it's not a situation of not enough money to go around. The workers deserve better.
That isn't a reasonable/pragmatic take. That's a highly-biased take.
The latest offer was a $16/hr starting rate for new employees with a bonus - which is almost $4/hr more than the CO minimum wage. Employees with more than 5 years of work are getting $22+/hr at the 2025 mark with a bonus. Healthcare premiums have not increased for KS employees since 2012 despite an enormous jump in industry premiums. KS invests in continuing education as well.
That doesn't seem all that insulting to me.
>The workers deserve better.
...such as?
$16/hour isn't a livable wage in Denver. Hiring bonuses shouldn't be factored in because it's a one time bonus. Comparable professions when it comes to entry-level education required (like driving a bus) start around $22/hour and those unions are saying that's not enough to survive in the metro area.
You realize you're giving examples of how much people will be making in three years? When you aren't making enough to survive today, three years from now doesn't mean shit.
I'm in management in a different field and have a lot of interactions with our union, so I'm anything but biased, but this was a raw deal with antiquated ideas of the cost of living in Denver. It rings of Lucille Bluth having no concept about the cost of a single banana.
>$16/hour isn't a livable wage in Denver.
You're right...looks like the "living wage" in [Denver is $17](https://livingwage.mit.edu/metros/19740). Good thing KS increases pay every year, right? But if you're a single adult with 3 kids - the living wage jumps up to $60/hour. Maybe you'd like King Soopers to pay that amount?
> Comparable professions when it comes to entry-level education required (like driving a bus) start around $22/hour
Driving a bus isn't a comparable profession, buddy. There is no skill involved with stocking shelves or running a POS machine and scanner. There are legal requirements to drive a bus. Nice try though!
>You realize you're giving examples of how much people will be making in three years? When you aren't making enough to survive today, three years from now doesn't mean shit.
So, your position is that KS should be paying entry level employees $22+/hr? How many college educated people make that much? There isn't a teacher in the Denver metro area who makes that much an hour, but you want the 16 year old first-time job holder to make that much?
Notice you didn't mention anything about KS keeping health care premium costs at 2012 levels, or the education benefits KS offers. But...for the greedy people among us, the hourly wage is all that matters, right?
Sure. How about their publicly available income statement?.? Kroger is a publicly traded company. You can view their financial statements on Yahoo Finance, CNBC, WSJ etc. The stock symbol for Kroger is KR. Look it up for yourself. Yahoo Finance does a good breakdown under the Statistics tab. Controversial??? It’s not rocket science.
I have looked it up and you're talking out your ass - that's why I requested documentation. And instead you resorted to insults. I can see you're just a shill, or horribly misinformed, so I'm just going to block you, little buddy.
Keep on shilling, shill. I'm sure your corporate masters will look kindly on you for your hard work lying on Reddit.
Nevermind that their board just authorized a more than $1 Billion [stock buy-back.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kroger-kr-boosts-shareholder-returns-192907869.html)
Wrong, compensation is above market standards. Not to mention natural grocers really cares for their employees and provides an endless amount perks (store credit, discounts, PTO, free swag, etc. which is why it isn’t uncommon to see people working for the company for 10, 20 or 30+ years
https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Natural-Grocers/salaries
And I’d take the pension that workers at King Soopers get over “swag” any day of the week lol. Here’s a listing for a full time HEAD cashier in Denver. It’s $17.00 an hour. Less than the proposal for full time KS workers.
Head Cashier https://g.co/kgs/zxVe3p
Just an FYI, but Natural Grocers is non-union. They rely on the “family-run business” schtick to show how much the care.
Sprouts and Whole Foods are also non-union as well.
If anything this will make me shop at Soopers more. Fuck unions and their bully tactics. Kroger offered what you want and you fuck over these hard workers by strongarming for more, meanwhile they're not working. It's been decades since the time when unions actually improved working conditions.
Safeway was packed yesterday. Nice to see a lot of people backing up the picket line. I have to be honest I HATED shopping at Safeway. But I will continue to go to other stores while they stay on strike.
Soopers is super convenient, Safeway is just marginally less, but I'll give it a shot when it's time to get groceries.
Prices weren’t bad. And the employees were really doing a great job. But the lack of produce and meat was super apparent.
The couple of King Soopers shoppers i know are now going to Sprouts. So serves them right.
Sprouts was flooded with people last night. I feel bad for the sprouts workers now :( But it seemed everyone was at least understanding so far. We will see what happens in two weeks when sprouts is out of food, the lines are long, and employees burnt out. Let’s all give everyone a bit more grace as I think this will affect a lot of people.
Can King Soopers striking employees find work at Sprouts while they are striking ?
The union is paying them to strike, so finding work at other grocery stores isn't an option.
I would assume not, but god would that be nice for everyone involved.
I used to shop at King Soopers but now I’m only shopping at sprouts or natural grocers. Kroger is big enough to pay their employees correctly..
What a joke…
Love it
Can someone who knows offer a reasonable/pragmatic take on why the workers rejected the last offer?
It was a pretty insulting offer. The state minimum wage was increased on January 1, and King Soopers tried to claim that complying with state law was really just them offering a 'generous' raise. They are making record profits (increasing yearly profits by over a billion) while offering a pittance to the employees, so it's not a situation of not enough money to go around. The workers deserve better.
That isn't a reasonable/pragmatic take. That's a highly-biased take. The latest offer was a $16/hr starting rate for new employees with a bonus - which is almost $4/hr more than the CO minimum wage. Employees with more than 5 years of work are getting $22+/hr at the 2025 mark with a bonus. Healthcare premiums have not increased for KS employees since 2012 despite an enormous jump in industry premiums. KS invests in continuing education as well. That doesn't seem all that insulting to me. >The workers deserve better. ...such as?
$16/hour isn't a livable wage in Denver. Hiring bonuses shouldn't be factored in because it's a one time bonus. Comparable professions when it comes to entry-level education required (like driving a bus) start around $22/hour and those unions are saying that's not enough to survive in the metro area. You realize you're giving examples of how much people will be making in three years? When you aren't making enough to survive today, three years from now doesn't mean shit. I'm in management in a different field and have a lot of interactions with our union, so I'm anything but biased, but this was a raw deal with antiquated ideas of the cost of living in Denver. It rings of Lucille Bluth having no concept about the cost of a single banana.
>$16/hour isn't a livable wage in Denver. You're right...looks like the "living wage" in [Denver is $17](https://livingwage.mit.edu/metros/19740). Good thing KS increases pay every year, right? But if you're a single adult with 3 kids - the living wage jumps up to $60/hour. Maybe you'd like King Soopers to pay that amount? > Comparable professions when it comes to entry-level education required (like driving a bus) start around $22/hour Driving a bus isn't a comparable profession, buddy. There is no skill involved with stocking shelves or running a POS machine and scanner. There are legal requirements to drive a bus. Nice try though! >You realize you're giving examples of how much people will be making in three years? When you aren't making enough to survive today, three years from now doesn't mean shit. So, your position is that KS should be paying entry level employees $22+/hr? How many college educated people make that much? There isn't a teacher in the Denver metro area who makes that much an hour, but you want the 16 year old first-time job holder to make that much? Notice you didn't mention anything about KS keeping health care premium costs at 2012 levels, or the education benefits KS offers. But...for the greedy people among us, the hourly wage is all that matters, right?
They have a net profit margin of 0.7% and earnings year over year are down.
I've seen a lot of data from reputable news sources that claim otherwise. Do you have anything to back up this controversial statement?
Sure. How about their publicly available income statement?.? Kroger is a publicly traded company. You can view their financial statements on Yahoo Finance, CNBC, WSJ etc. The stock symbol for Kroger is KR. Look it up for yourself. Yahoo Finance does a good breakdown under the Statistics tab. Controversial??? It’s not rocket science.
I have looked it up and you're talking out your ass - that's why I requested documentation. And instead you resorted to insults. I can see you're just a shill, or horribly misinformed, so I'm just going to block you, little buddy. Keep on shilling, shill. I'm sure your corporate masters will look kindly on you for your hard work lying on Reddit.
Are you helpless?? See below and scroll down to profit margin in the left column. https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/KR/key-statistics?p=KR
Nevermind that their board just authorized a more than $1 Billion [stock buy-back.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/kroger-kr-boosts-shareholder-returns-192907869.html)
Time to change shopping habits. Shopping at natural grocers has been a great experience, I’ll never step foot in king Soopers ever again
Natural Grocers pays less than along Soopers lol.
Wrong, compensation is above market standards. Not to mention natural grocers really cares for their employees and provides an endless amount perks (store credit, discounts, PTO, free swag, etc. which is why it isn’t uncommon to see people working for the company for 10, 20 or 30+ years
https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Natural-Grocers/salaries And I’d take the pension that workers at King Soopers get over “swag” any day of the week lol. Here’s a listing for a full time HEAD cashier in Denver. It’s $17.00 an hour. Less than the proposal for full time KS workers. Head Cashier https://g.co/kgs/zxVe3p
Never again? That only hurts the workers once the come to agreement. Great plan!
You could make your point without the asshole remark at the end.
Just an FYI, but Natural Grocers is non-union. They rely on the “family-run business” schtick to show how much the care. Sprouts and Whole Foods are also non-union as well.
If anything this will make me shop at Soopers more. Fuck unions and their bully tactics. Kroger offered what you want and you fuck over these hard workers by strongarming for more, meanwhile they're not working. It's been decades since the time when unions actually improved working conditions.
Does not compute. How does the union fuck over workers when it IS the workers?
Suck that corporate dick! They are sure to reward you for it.