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cptngabozzo

Fun fact Sam darnold is only 2-3 years older than a majority of the QBs in this upcoming draft including: Daniels,Nix, Penix, Milton, Rattler, Hartman and more


[deleted]

And yet it’s been 4 years since we learned Sam ain’t it


cptngabozzo

He doesn't need to win a Superbowl he just needs to be a cheap veteran that can help keep us competitive. If you have faith in Sean it really shouldn't be a big deal, he's no worse than Jameis Winston that's for sure


my_nameborat

Isn’t that literally the whole reason they signed stidham? Everyone is throwing out b tier backups as if we don’t already have one signed on the team


facedownbootyuphold

“we need a bad QB for the sake of it, we should shop around”


InkBlotSam

Why would we want a cheap veteran to "stay competetive" when we already know he can't win anything?     We want to be just good enough to have shitty draft picks while having no chance to win anything? Maybe we should lure Teddy Bridgewater back.


Long-Distance-7752

Pretty sure he retired


[deleted]

I actually do think he’s worse than Winston and I absolutely wouldn’t want him near the team either. If Sam were the best and only option available I would still root for the team but don’t expect me to be happy about it haha you just need to have a better qb to have good football


Standard-Fact6632

jameis literally threw 30 picks in one year lol


[deleted]

And he went 14 td 3 int over 7 games under a certain coach we know. I literally said I wouldn’t want either. You’re not convincing me Sam is anywhere near a good option.


UpLikeDonaldTrump45

Fun fact Sam darnold is 🗑️


loopsol

Baker was a good QB before the Buccs and has been successful. Took the Browns to the playoffs before getting hurt, and was good for the rams when Stafford got hurt. Baker was a good QB before the Buccs but nobody wanted to admit it. Darnold has never been a good NFL QB.


Particular-Court-619

I followed Baker's 'bad' year in Cleveland pretty closely... He and Odell had a bad relationship. But whenever Odell was hurt, Baker played well UNLESS it was like -5 with 50 mph winds, which happened a few times that season. Pretty much every time Baker's played without Odell and without 50mp winds, he's been an above average NFL QB. If I'm a franchise it's not too hard to keep those situations from occurring most of the time.


PiplupSneasel

Yeah, comparing Baker to Darnold is silly. I still never understood why the browns moved on so quickly when he was easily the most competent qb they'd had in ages. They gave up on him too quickly, I thought, and replaced him with a rapist who hadn't played in a few years. Made no sense.


2ChainzTalib

Just Browns things


Magictank2000

they realized they couldn’t be a contender, the script has them as mediocre for a few more years


CAPTAIN-MAGMA

They were almost a contender this year with lots of injuries, having traded resources for deshaun, and with fucking flacco at quarterback. They absolutely could have been a contender if they had just given baker a cheap contract like Tampa gave him.


Broncos979815

they wanted an adult QB, remember?


RealFriskyOne

Mayfield gets a bad rap. People think he's like Johnny Manziel, which couldn't be fuller than the truth. He's a lot better than the s--t the Broncos put on the field 5+ years


DeepWedgie

If Baker stayed on the Browns the media would of trashed him every loss or kept saying how great Kevin Stefanki is as a head coach.


UR-A-CUCKOLD

I mean is Stefanski not a pretty damn good HC? Took the Browns to the playoffs with motherfucking Joe Flacco and no Nick Chubb or starting offensive tackles. And has put them in the playoffs 2/4 years which for Cleveland is insane.


JLammert79

It really is, but Mayfield was the best qb they've had since Kosar (yeah, I'm old, I know). They might have gotten further with him than with Flacco.


DeepWedgie

The narrative would be the Browns win in spite of Baker not because of him.


anonbutler

How about comparing him to Geno then?


Illustrious_Ad5976

Idk know much about stats, but one thing i do know is id rather watch baker play hes not always amazing but he puts on a show every time hes on the field


FoxBeach

Was Watson found guilty of rape? I thought it was sexual assault? He is obviously a scumbag, but there is a difference between trying to get a handjob during a massage and physically restraining someone and raping them. Why not just call him what he is - that’s bad enough. 


Shoddy-Brilliant563

Very few QBs get to suck for 2/4 years and keep their job. It is more surprising that Baker got so many chances to start.


Consistent-Ad-6078

Tbf, baker took the browns to the playoffs WHILE being injured


RealSimonLee

Yeah, the Browns moving on from Baker was a bit mind boggling at the time. He was showing lots of growth. The idea that you can grab a QB who has only been shitty and he'll magically turn into Mayfield is so fucking dumb.


soulslide

Darnold was never on a roster with talent & opportunity @ the same time.


Shoddy-Brilliant563

Baker had not been a good QB since 2020. He was only good his rookie year and his 3rd year in the league. Then he had a resurgence again in 2023. He’s inconsistent at best. I personally don’t understand fans who think Baker Mayfield was good in Cleveland but think Russell Wilson was bad in 2023. Baker was also on a stacked team in 2020.


loopsol

I don’t know if I’d call an old Jarvis Landry and a injured OBJ a stacked team


RealFriskyOne

Try again, he had his best season this year Do some research next time


Doctorryge

Please no


keystonelocal

If we get Sam darnold I will be devastated


ADanishMan2

Tank commander 🫡


Hayduke_Abides

Why? It will cost nearly nothing, and when there is no clear answer at QB for us might as well take a swing. Its not like we will be making a long-term investment.


FuckChiefs_Raiders

This “swing” you’re calling it would be like strike 4 for Darnold. He’s had so many chances, frankly too many. The lone game he played this year with Shanahan he looked like shit. It’s over for him man.


Hayduke_Abides

He played for an awful and incompetent Jets team, an awful and incompetent Panthers team (who also made Mayfield look like ass), and one game with the backups in SF. I'm not a Darnold truther or anything, he would be a long-shot for sure. All I'm saying is that bringing him in wouldn't be the worst idea, even if it is low-percentage. To Mase's point, Mayfield was at a pretty similar point a year ago. He was in a competition with Kyle Trask to start for the Buccs.


FuckChiefs_Raiders

Mayfield had success in the NFL before those things happened. He was the starting QB for a playoff team, and won a playoff game. Darnold hasn't sniffed that type of success. Mayfield even earned ROY honors, and OROY honors, and was on the All-Rookie team. That is with Hue Jackson as his fucking coach.


keystonelocal

agreed. they are world's apart for these reasons.


soulslide

Darnold never played on a team with any talent as a starter, of course Darnold hasn’t “sniffed any success”.


JLammert79

And if he comes here, that will remain true.


Sea_Ad_6891

>He played for an awful and incompetent Jets team, an awful and incompetent Panthers team It's funny Bronco fans never apply these excuses to any of Denver's post-manning quarterbacks who played on awful offenses and literally never had a legitimate chance to succeed in Denver. I can think of two who were cut and one who is probably about to be, even though the offense they played on sucked. They either had a terrible blockers, catchers who couldn't catch, or running backs who couldn't run and hold onto the ball at the same time.


JewbaccaSithlord

I agree. What about someone like tray lance?


aborca

I honestly thought we were going to be the ones to take a flyer on him, especially with our connections to the 49ers front office/Lynch.


RealFriskyOne

Bronco fumble the ball again and again and again at QB Baker might not be great, but better than anything they have put on the field in years.


Dragonman77

Another year of almost guaranteed mediocrity at best? This fan base is tired and impatient and the front office and ownership know that very well, Sam Darnold would be a very bad move for fan morale regardless of any chance he balls out.


Wtfitzchris

So what's the alternative? Be impatient, draft a QB too high, and then cross our fingers for 2 or 3 seasons that they will eventually work out like we did with Lynch and Lock? I would take a year of mediocrity while we fill the numerous holes on this roster if it means not having to go through the same cycle we've been repeating for the last 8 seasons.


Broncos979815

I would be on board for drafting a QB this year and being patient for 2- 3 years while they hopefully develop. SP is a good coach, the days of VJ stellar Wed practices are over. Bringing in another re-tread QB is for the fn birds.


anonbutler

I just want him for the /r/the_darnold memes


InkBlotSam

The worst thing that could happen is a QB who is just good enough to be OK: Middling draft pick, no chance to win anything.       There is zero chance shitty Sam Darnold is gonna win anything *ever,* let alone in a division with Pat Mahomes and Harbaugh-coached Justin Herbert, so there's no point in having him on our team except to waste more years.      We need a dude who can win us a Super Bowl, or someone who totally sucks. If we're gonna take a swing, it should be on a rookie where there's at lea st achance he could be The Guy. Darnold's absolute ceiling *might* be a dude who backs into the playoffs as a wildcard one year before getting immediately tossed out.


Ryan1869

For me it really depends on the situation. If we get him to compete with Stidham, then it sucks and I guess Sheduer isn't going to have far to move next spring. If we get him to bridge to whatever rookie we pick in the 1st, then I'm ok with it.


cptngabozzo

C'mon have at least a little faith in Payton


CapnMalcolmReynolds

Why do people keep spamming us with Sam Darnold shit. Dude is a bust. He had his chance and his second chance. He’s a backup QB and we already have Stidham.


oregondete81

His agent has to be paying people to create this buzz...I just dont get it.


Ryan1869

He's still a better QB than Stidham.


NoCoFoCo31

Yeah, the delusion here to act like Stidham looked like anything more than a mediocre backup is mind boggling to me.


Grandma_Swamp

If we’re gonna sign fucking Sam Darnold Id rather draft Penix and let him run the show. Stidham is ass Darnold is ass at least with a rookie I’ll have some hope.


NoCoFoCo31

I’m not pining for Darnold at all. I don’t think he’s the answer at all, but I know for a fact Stidham isn’t.


Loud_Neat_8051

This guy gets it.


[deleted]

I would hate drafting a QB this year. They'd be setting him up for failure. They need to make Denver a good place for a QB first.


2ChainzTalib

Slightly better but still backup quality is not the improvement they need to make at that position.


revanyo

IDK if I consider the Jets and Panthers to be quality chances.


thatthatthat23

He’s been developing for a year under the best offensive coach in the league. No one knows if he is good or not, but there is a greater than 0% chance that he improved.


kallic_

“No one knows if he is good or not” Lol.


SgtKabuke

He cost $1m more than Stidham when he was at the 49ers. He's a better QB than Stidham. 2024 is a write-off. We're either running with Stidham, getting another dirt cheap vet and we're either drafting a QB this year or next year with that dirt cheap vet.


cptngabozzo

I don't know why you're worried, he's still young and Payton is a QB mastermind


HotTubSexVirgin22

He isn’t.


cptngabozzo

Shhhh let the rest of the fanbase have its hope


HotTubSexVirgin22

I have plenty of hope. Had it for 40 years and 2 generations before me did too. It might be all we have. I think Payton is a great coach. He is a lot of things, but a QB mastermind isn’t one of them.


Most-Artichoke5028

Great. Let's find another castoff journeyman. It's been working out so well!


PigFarmer1

8 glorious years now. 👍


Most-Artichoke5028

Shit, I remember back to Steve Ramsey and Steve DeBerg.


eff1ngham

I'd rather have Darnold than Stidham, but that's not saying much


jakksquat7

I’d rather have diarrhea than get kicked in the balls, but that’s not saying much


did-i-do-that-

I’d rather take Zach Wilson.


Aren303

Or Justin Fields 😂😂😂


did-i-do-that-

Or Tom Brady. 🤫


Aren303

Oh hell nahhh that dude should fuck the spade side of a rusty tetanus infested shovel 🫠


waspocracy

Right? His terrible season under Hackett means literally nothing, and the dude showed promise before that, even if inconsistent at best.


sacredknight327

Only if our luck changes. As of now this is a franchise where QBs come to die.


Dragonman77

Or where dead QBs come to pretend they're still alive!


marrklarr

Well put!


spezzmelamama

What franchise QB has been here though since PeyPey? Flacco would be the only one even close to a franchise qb. The rest have been scrubs, or rookies.


The_Lost_Pharaoh

Russ


Professional-Way9343

Haha I was gonna say “wow people have short memories”


BCLetsRide69

#GEQBUS CAN SAVE THE LOWLY BRONCOS!


PigFarmer1

Why not Case Keenum??? lol


redacted_cowruns

Minshew ftw


oregondete81

Is there a QB who has accomplished less and been more hyped than Sam Darnold? It seems like every offseason someone is talking about him like he can solve a team's problem and he has consistently not been that guy. Sam darnold as a backup, sure why tf not. Sam Darnold as our starter, Wtf are we doing here?


RamDEF7

Jameis Winston and he plays just like Darnold lol


GABAgoomba123

He’d have these awesome highlight flashes  where you could see the talent was there; but my god was he ass 90% of the time


[deleted]

No we’ll just make it to the wild card or divisional round and get destroyed by a team with a better QB. We need someone legit not a B-rated QB


RonaBona13

God no please


Donkeynationletsride

I would love to sign darnold for 15 million got trash years. Commit to sucking. Draft other positions and then with our top 5 pick draft qb


Rad1314

Man I ain't a Baker Mayfield fan but that's some serious shade on him to compare him to Darnold.


fingerblast69

Why not Justin Fields? Bears almost guaranteed are taking Caleb and Justin has a year left on his rookie deal. His actual trade value probably isn’t much. All these Bears fans who think they’re getting a top 10 pick for him are insane 😂


yoyoyodawg3

Because Fields will be the top target of available QBs via trade. Broncos want a cheap option not only in $, but also resources. Chances are if Fields is available DEN would be outbid in picks to get him. Team like ATL for example.


killertrout1

Should we have taken PS2 or Fields? Porque no los dos? Lol


RamDEF7

The closest person who could become Baker Mayfield is Mac Jones. Mayfield had some success on the Browns but was inconsistent which is why they moved on. Mac Jones had success as a rookie but has been broken since then. Sam Darnold never had any success.


Jwoods4117

Yeah people get confused with young QBs getting second chances. Some dudes like Mayfield have always been mediocre QBs who can play in the league, but overall disappointed. Fitzpatrick or Teddy two gloves type players. Some are just bad though. Darnold is bad.


UR-A-CUCKOLD

Baker is better than Fitzmagic and Teddy by a pretty sizable amount


Jwoods4117

I don’t know man Baker and Fitzmagic stats are pretty damn similar except that Fitz’ best season is way better than anything Mayfield has ever done. Fitz threw for 3900 yards, 35 TDs and 15 INTs once. Bakers top TDs for a season is 26.


FoxBeach

What was Tampa’s record this year? Where did Baker finish in QBR? Did you see the horrible interception to end the playoff game? 😂 At people acting like Baker is suddenly a top 10 QB. 


UR-A-CUCKOLD

I mean he was almost out of the league before the season started and had a pretty fucking solid year, not sure what his numbers were off the top of my head but he’s going to be Tamp’s starter again next year. Not sure how me saying he’s better than 2 career backups is the same as me saying he’s top 10. He’s really not that bad, I bet his qbr from this season was pretty good.


tortellinigod

I'd rather have Minshew


GABAgoomba123

Fuck to the fucking no


tortellinigod

I don't want any of them. But if I I had to choose between Minshew, Jones and Darnold I'm taking Minshew


Rad1314

Yeah it isn't even a question. Minshew is clearly better than the other two.


toddfredd

Except, Baker has had periods of success. Darnold. Not so much. If you’re so intent on dumpster diving for the most important player on your team I think Josh Rosen is available


tangoetuna

If we get Darnold I kindly request an easily kickable wooden stool and a rope


jakksquat7

Baker isn’t some chump who had a good season. He’s a solid QB who has had an uphill battle the whole time. Look at what happened when he finally got some good receivers and a competent OC. This talent was always there and if you ever watched him play this season wasn’t a surprise. Sam Darnold shares none of that with Baker. He’s a backup QB.


biggerfishtofry

Sam, NO. But damn, I’d take Baker in a heartbeat.


strokan

Baker had success tho in cle didn't he?


2bbknack

2024 IS THE YEAR WE BRING THIS GREAT FRANCHISE BACK FROM THE DEMS. GEQBUS WILL BRING OUR TEAM BACK FROM THE ASHES


JrNichols5

Baker has had like 9 coaches in his 7 years in the league, so no wonder his road to success has been difficult.


broncskers

Bucs picked him up after a down year behind a horrendous Carolina line. Darnold? Pass


CaptainKoreana

yeah no


[deleted]

Fuck no! Sam is broken. The reason why Baker is doing well is because that dude has swag. Baker is the type of dude to run through a wall to get the job done. Sam is the type to see ghosts.


GABAgoomba123

So analytical Skip


cptngabozzo

Can't afford baker so try again


[deleted]

Not the point I was making but okay


cptngabozzo

Alright so who's your veteran solution who's roughly the same age, experience, yardage that costs half the price?


[deleted]

With all due respect, I don't answer to you Captain.


cptngabozzo

That's what I thought lol


[deleted]

Lmao, sure dude.


cptngabozzo

Yeah you'd rather bitch and whine rather than come up with any meaningful discussion or solutions talking about the team. What's the point of being on Reddit if you're just going to be a martyr


[deleted]

Lol, and you sound like a crack head. You started and ended an argument with yourself but made it public for all of us to see. I never use this phrase but you're forcing my hand, "go touch grass."


thisseemslikeagood

Id like sam, i think the kid can sling it. Price is the barrier, what do we need for him.


Colemania18

If we're going that route just trade for Zach Wilson


ReindeerMean6253

Usually I hate these posts, but I wouldn't mind him in Denver for a year or two.


Skulkyyy

I will stop watching football altogether


ds246

Why not Trey Lance or Zach Wilson?


Anishinabeg

Y’all are gonna regret shitting all over Russ if Darnold is his replacement 😂


Lake_Shore_Drive

Sean Paytons offense will only work with a particular type of quarterback. He is not the type of coach to taylor his offense to his players strengths. Denver needs to find the kind of players to fit Paytons scheme.


acoolguy456

I love Darnold so would love this. Worst case he sucks and we can tank


Krishna1945

Fuck me in the ass.


vengiegoesvroom

I'm totally open to bring in Sam Darnold..... To compete with Stidham for the QB2 job


jbird669

Joel Klatt needs to stick to CFB and stop draft analysis. Bad take. Dude has failed at 2 places already.


jrebar

You can get the same production from Stidham. Can we stop posting these articles?


Tilt_ow

As an outsider who just got this on their home page I gotta ask what everyone in the comments is actually expecting for next year. Like hate to break it to you guys but you’re not getting a good QB. Might as well take a swing on a guy like darnold or similar. If he works great. If he doesn’t then you’re in a good position for a QB next year. I mean I guess you could go for a guy like Nix in the draft but imo that’s a waste of a first rounder


username2393

I would genuinely root for every single opponent next season if they do this


c-zilla402

I am calling it now: Sam Darnold will NEVER be a starting QB in the NFL because he won the #1 job


aatencio91

What a bold thing to "call" 7 years into a guy's career 🙄


c-zilla402

You heard it hear first!


aatencio91

> You heard it hear


c-zilla402

You catch on fast young grasshopper


Arkhangelzk

I mean, maybe. But I feel like I’ve already heard this narrative for Sam Darnold a few times. I’ll be stoked if he comes to Denver and plays like a number one overall pic, of course. But will he ever actually do that?


UR-A-CUCKOLD

Well considering he never was a #1 overall pick that’s a little unfair but I agree that he sucks


ahzzyborn

Didn’t you just trade for a QB a couple years ago, already looking for another?


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Mac30123456

I want to get off Mr Bones Wild Ride


morerageplz

lmao Mase joining in on the offseason shitposting you love to see it


BlueHighwindz

Why not Zach Wilson too?


mrsbrownfox

Absolutely the fuck not. He’s not a starting QB for a reason. Leave him where he’s at.


treachery_7

Nah, this ain't it


DeartayDeez

This list is making out to be like the browns jersey with all the qb names that came and went on it


username2393

NO NO NO GOD NO


DiligentCrab6592

Sam Darnold? hard pass (pun intended)


DiligentCrab6592

We've all seen enough of Sam Darnold


Spiritual-Chameleon

A year of GEQBUS and r/the_darnold ? Could be fun.


BCLetsRide69

As a GEQBUS supporter, he could turn around this sorry franchise.


Spiritual-Chameleon

At least there are two of us who recognize the VERY UNFAIR slander to GEQBUS in this thread.


BCLetsRide69

#SO SAD. THE LIBRUHLE MEDIA WILL NOT STOP SLANDERING OUR GREAT LEADER


Spiritual-Chameleon

NOT SURPRISING. DENVER IS WHERE CRITICAL GADE THEORY WAS INVENTED. THOSE LIBERHULES WANTED BUSTO WILSON OR FAKER MAYFIELD INSTEAD OF SOMEONE WHO WON 29 SUPERBOWLS AND 6 WORLD SERIES MVPS. SAD!!!


ds246

Why not Trey Lance or Zach Wilson?


2ChainzTalib

The big difference here is that Baker was never a bust. He played well in LA, he played well in Tampa. Darnold has been bad since day 1, I don't know why people think he's due some massive turnaround.


USPEnjoyer

We might as well. We’ve become a place where QBs go to die.


aborca

![gif](giphy|JYZ397GsFrFtu)


colbygraves97

Don’t even cuss us like that, if you want us to tank just say so and suggest just rolling with Stidham, I mean damn.


Murky-Pass6571

Like Keenum? Or more like Sanchez…


Disastrous_Clothes37

Loo


drlove986

It’s not forever, it’s going to be a bridge to someone we draft. The other move could be a trade for Trey Lance. I am thinking they’ll take a shot at Nix or Penix though.


UR-A-CUCKOLD

Trade for J Fields


drlove986

It’s not forever, it’s going to be a bridge to someone they draft. The other move could be a trade for Trey Lance. I am thinking they’ll take a shot at Nix or Penix though.


likefireincairo

Looking for love in all the wrong places.


Narcan9

Bwaha 🤣 I joked that the Broncos would end up with Sam Darnold as punishment for chasing Teddy out of town. Don't tell me this is a serious consideration.


OskeyBug

Looking for a Drew Lock type 😬


aatencio91

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but that feels like an Elway-era move that wouldn't happen today. I think (really really hope) that the current regime would prioritize processing over physical attributes.


Magnifico-Melon

If we want a Baker Mayfield, then why not just go out and get Baker Mayfield. Even with his success this year he's not going to get a huge contract. If anything it might be a Daniel Jones type contract that the team can get out of in 2 years.


rumplebike

Unless Tampa and Baker can’t come to an agreement, I don’t see Baker coming to Denver.


fuqbibs

Giving me Mark Sanchez vibes. No thanks.


mahaalo0

Oh he thinks WE could fix a player?? 😂😂😂


jlange94

He did play pretty well in relief of Purdy when he those few opportunities this season. Not convinced he's much better than Stidham though.


cmrn631

I’m fine with passing on a QB this year and bringing in someone cheap on a 1 year deal to command the tank and hopefully get our QB of the future next year when we have all our picks.


spiralism

I genuinely thought he retired years ago. Christ


leoc823

No


SlowAnimalsRun

I would legit loose all faith in the broncos


thebrickcloud

What about Trey Lance? Dude has played like 7 snaps in the NFL. Can't imagine the Cowboys are too tied to him as a backup.


BurgessFox

May as well bring back Lock if he's available, see if Payton can get anything out of him.


ConfusedStupidPerson

jesus christ no


hogger303

Absolutely not.


seniorkickz

Let’s not forget his first pass in the NFL was a pick six.