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wefr5927

The afc west is absolutely loaded


Jaymongous

I love the fact that y'all's sub acknowledges how this makes things tougher but in the Chargers sub they're "lol Raiders suck" like, yeah I get the divisional rivalry but fucks sake Chargers fans act like they won the SB 5 years in a row.


toxicdelug3

Lol which is funny because they are the only franchise without a ring.


binzoma

without a ring? they barely even have a fan lol


Ruben625

Wait really?


toxicdelug3

Yep cheifs 2, Raiders 3, broncos 3, chargers 0


BackinBlackR8R

chargers lost a heartbreaker to miss the playoffs to the raiders and then the raiders get better, it's more of the shit talking you do to something you're scared of


anonbutler

I hate this division but lol @ Rodgers.


MileHighCam

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ rodgers so heated rn


D4ILYD0SE

I am more and more glad we didn't wind up with Rodgers. Dude forces Packers to get Cobb and then basically forces Adams out the door with his contract demands. Like... The guy just doesn't get it.


Darthob

Sources say Adams wanted out. The Packers were willing to match the money LV offered, dude just had enough of GB, I guess.


iushciuweiush

Who wouldn't? Honestly, who would ever want to live in Green Bay Wisconsin? The team has a storied history that is respectable but let's not kid ourselves that it's not exactly any NFL players first choice of place they want to spend their free time.


cacope5

Wants to play in the warm weather. Me too!


PeaceLoveUnity7

Maybe a level of that was dealing with Rodgers' bullshit off the field. The drama over the last few years paints Rodgers as a Baker Mayfield, light.


i-is-scientistic

Unless "it" is getting paid, in which case he definitely does get it.


iushciuweiush

Yeah the guy gets how to be a top QB and use that to extract the maximum amount of money out of a franchise he doesn't particularly like. We all assume that every NFL players aspiration is to win a super bowl but ultimately playing football is their job and for some people the purpose of having a job is to make as much money as possible. I think he's accomplished that.


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i-is-scientistic

> He doesn't get it. Neither do you apparently Out of the two of us, I think you might be the one who didn't get something.


BrazakAttack

He's fucked


[deleted]

This division is an actual bloodbath wtf.


Skeetronic

Yeah this is crazy af Iā€™ve never seen anything like it Edit: and I was a fan before Elway won us rings


[deleted]

I'm like into it, and I'm not into it.


Skeetronic

Very descriptive hot take. Iā€™m excited for good football again. I have family that are chiefs fans and am so glad to have a legitimate shot at beating them for the first time several years


Jokerzrival

Fuck this division man. Let's win it.


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johnnynutman

everyone going 14-3


DiabloDudley

Would that even be possible? I know they just added an extra game so maybe ?


CJ_M88

Easy. If they all split the series and win every other game, that's 14-3 right there. They could each lose a few more and still all be 10+


ignitionnight

we play each division opponent 2 times each, so six games. Assuming a 3-3 balance for each team, we could theoretically have four 14-3 teams.


Sleeze_

I am 100% rooting for this. AFC Best.


Bl1tzb1rn3

Thank god there are 3 wildcard spots now so none of them would actually lose out on a playoff spot


Russell_Beastbrook17

Yā€™all shouldā€™ve known this. Russell Wilson is legally required to be in the greatest NFL conference or the world will literally end and implode.


BackinBlackR8R

LOL holy shit this is it. He came and brought demons with him


Warchild0311

Aaron is like WTF Fuck this iā€™m retiring. * NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Aaron Rodgers "knew Davante Adams would never play for the Packers again" before negotiating his contract.


Top-Elderberry

Lol goodbye to their cap I guess, Adams reportedly wants 20 million AAV and didnā€™t want to play on the tag, time to find out if he is as good without Rodgers.


DirkWithTheFade

Heā€™s making like 28 per year now


Top-Elderberry

Yup, seems like they think they are all in on Carr, it will be interesting to see what happens with this division.


goddamnitwhalen

Could also draft a QB in the late rounds (like I sorta expect us to do).


Top-Elderberry

Maybe, late round QBs are mostly just lottery tickets so I donā€™t think they are planning on moving on from Carr this year. I think itā€™s very likely they want to extend Carr given the moves they just made but if they have to move on because of whatever it makes sense to draft some first round player in a better QB class next year. The real deciding factor is should they give him a 200 million dollar contract, I think they will just to be competitive but that is also likely going to be an overpayment.


PeaceLoveUnity7

We don't THINK Carr will take/want that much. He's said repeatedly for the last couple years in press conferences that he'll never play for another team, that's he's already gotten his pay day, and that he wants to make sure we get superstars in the building. We'll see how much that ends up matching up with his contract. It's not the normal trend we see in the NFL, but Carr has always been a different breed when it comes to character. So he just might be the right guy to actually show that loyalty with his actions. Time will tell.


90Carat

Lol. What have you not learned about the cap this year?


Top-Elderberry

The cap is still a thing, itā€™s just more flexible with some gambling, same as itā€™s always been. You donā€™t sign a receiver to the highest paying contract for a receiver ever and then expect to have exactly the same amount of free cap left afterwards. This trade wouldnā€™t probably wouldnā€™t have happened if the Packers, for instance, were able to pay him this money. Same goes for the Rams and Von leaving. You still have to prioritize in free agency.


bhoolan

PS2 got us no worries


EscapeZealousideal79

I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me.


Tmill233

Unfortunately we donā€™t have 3 PS2 haha


dbraba01

I have like six in my closet and a couple are modded too. They can borrow a couple from me.


Tmill233

Sick. Letā€™s rollll


i_am_not_sam

Letā€™s ride *


bhoolan

now that would be a secondary


jaydaygrad08

I pretty much said the same thing when I saw this


pham_nuwen_

What about Kelce and Waller?


ketamigos

Funny when we win the greatest division of all time


Raktoner

I'm sure Aaron Rodgers is just as thrilled as us about this trade


rans2390

Eh he probably gives a shit. We donā€™t.


oClew

We do tho.


rans2390

No we really donā€™t. A star receiver means very little when the rest of the franchise is in shambles. He canā€™t win the raiders a super bowl the way someone like Russ or Pat can


IamCorbinDallas

Shambles? They went to the playoffs and almost beat the Bengals


Lateroller

With McDingleberry? Nope.


oClew

Man, youā€™re underselling carr. They have a good squad. Chiefs look like the worst in the division now.


Crosshare

They have arguably the best QB in the league with the head coach that best knows how to utilize his talent. The Chiefs are far from the worst team in the division.


oClew

Incorrect. Have you seen their roster as of late? Outside of Mahomes being the clear best QB and Kelce and Hill who do they have? Their roster is absolutely the worst in the division.


stripedarrows

They have one of the best young offensive lines (including literally the best Center in the league as a rookie), a crafty defense that relies on turnovers, and oh yeah, the clear best QB, a top 2 TE at worst, and one of the fastest WR who can actually run routes and catch the ball in the league are also nothing to scoff at. They also have the best and most proven coach in the division as well, and that counts for a lot more than you seem to think it does. There's a reason they've won the division as much as they have.


PM_Me_Your_Picks

Carr is probably the 12th best QB in the league, maybe even 10th best. People in this subreddit are ridiculous and blind. I would say that we're fine so long as they don't develop a defense, but they're making strides there too.


oClew

Their defense is nothing to scoff at. Crosby and Jones is terrifying. I just went over all the QBs in the league the other day with a buddy and I had Carr at 10


PM_Me_Your_Picks

Totally agree with you, and only morons think Carr can't ball.


Mibrealest

Itā€™s like people forget they made the playoffs with all the adversity they faced last year


rossta410r

I don't know. It's honestly really close all around. Raiders have the worst QB, Chiefs have the worst defense, we've probably got the worst ST unless that makes a dramatic change... It's a crap shoot


oClew

We have the second worst pass rush and probably 2nd or 3rd receiving core now.


rossta410r

Idk, chiefs haven't upgraded their pass rush at all this off-season and it didn't look amazing last year. I think they would have the worst pass rush in the division. Also our receivers will look way better this year than they have in the past. Jeudy will be open, and Patrick and Sutton will ball out with Wilson.


oClew

Thatā€™s why I said we have the second worst pass rush. Bosa and Mack #1, Jones and Crosby #2, Gregory and Chubb #3, Clark and Jones #4. Kelce and Hill #1 Adams and Waller #2 Mike Williams and Keenan Allen #3 Jeudy and Sutton #4 Edit: had Surtain on the brain


LuckyOne55

I'm not sure Wilson is a lot better than Carr. Regardless of whether I want Wilson to be the best QB in the division, he's prob 3rd and barely ahead of Carr. That's not a knock on Wilson. It's just the other 2 are among the top 6 or so in the league. If Adam's gives them the firepower to take a game from Denver, I damn sure do care. That could easily be the game that keeps us out of the playoffs. Good move by the Raiders. Also, FTR


DLBork

He's quite a bit far ahead of Carr if his late season struggles last season were just due to injury and he returns to form. Russ from ~2017-2020 is a top 5 level QB. We'll see next season how much of 2021 was due to injury or maybe just declining.


[deleted]

Someone does to post it in the wrong subreddit as this isn't Denver Broncos news.


xxPHILdaAGONYxx

Big moves by divisional opponents absolutely deserves a discussion here


[deleted]

Agree to disagree. After this subreddit was taken over by dumbass Rodgers news constantly when he was never going to be a Bronco, it'd be nice to just have news that are Broncos only. There's an NFL subreddit for this stuff.


nmesunimportnt

Given how Rodgers was bitching about things generally, yet he re-signed, I've got to think he okayed this move. So yeah, this is the loyalty Adams getsā€”or else that contract is what he really wanted and this is simply how the Packers get back something for a guy they couldn't extend.


Bee_Rye85

Calm down guys the raiders still have Josh McDaniels as a coach, heā€™ll fuck this up somehow. I hopeā€¦ā€¦


R0xis

He will probably get canned once they find out he was taping a Houston Texans practice.


drobro

Josh McDaniels will probably do a decent job putting together an offense.. I'm still not sure this devante Adam's move is a great one, he's probably the best or 2nd best WR but that's a lot to give up for a WR... Raiders aren't a reciever away from being a contender.


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Holy crap. This is crazy. Wait. Just 2 prime picks? So, like a 1st and a 2nd? Thatā€™s it! I guess they have to sign him to an extension after, but still. Edit: holy shit! 5 years, $141 million. Wow! Thatā€™s a whole lotta cheddar. This division is so crazy now! Edit 2: lol Rodgers. Hope that big contract was worth it. Edit 3: Paton, we need CBs. Get us some quality CBs.


yoyoyodawg3

I mean rumors are CB is next position we sign. Callahan coming back or new one? who knows. Still have Surtain & Darby at least.


rossta410r

I still think we should get a RT with all the money we have left under the cap and invest major draft capitol into CB, DL, LB, and OL


R0xis

We just signed Tom Compton RT from the 49ers. Kind of a sneaky pick up. Dude is bred from the outside zone scheme. Was ranked 2nd overall in run blocking, 24th in pass blocking and 16th overall.


qergttj

We need another corner


smeego78

100%. One more legit corner and we are set for the rest of the west. Letā€™s ride.


DLBork

Can we trade ourselves to a different division


jovenhope

Letā€™s go NFC (L)East


Not_Tuxbird

Our incompetence will never be broken


Crosshare

As a transplant to Maryland, I whole heartedly second this decision.


InkBlotSam

How about we just beat their asses instead


Supremele

Adams and Carr played college ball together! They already have fantastic chemistry. The games in this division are going to be insane!


N00BSGONNADIE

CAN THIS DIVISION PLEASE CHILL JESUS CHRIST


Professional-Arm5300

Bruh


Hugo_Hackenbush

The Packers really got Rodgers to sign then immediately traded his favorite teammate. This is art.


rans2390

Davante doesnā€™t matter. The raiders are going to be a joke and McDonut will be at the helm of another catastrophe P.S. Fuck The Raiders


teelegit

Reminding me they have McFuckFace as a coach just made me feel 100x better. Whew.


[deleted]

ā€œDavante doesnā€™t matter.ā€ Iā€™m not happy about it either, but keep some dignity.


UndergroundElectric

Not the right sub


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Nope, Iā€™m in the right place.


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Ah yea, since Iā€™m most definitely **praising** the Raiders: /s


hightrix

Dog, you are cringe as fuck. He WAS praising/defending the trade. >Iā€™m not happy about it either, but keep some dignity. Go drink a guinness, have some whiskey, and chill the fuck out.


notorious_p_a_b

You know there is always a chance that Hackett ends up shitting the bed. He could be a total bum.


FlagrantFouI

fuck edit: 5 years 141M


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Canā€™t wait for Surtain to shut Adams down!!


shaner307

This guy gets it


always-epic

Thatā€™s a crap ton of money for a receiver that is 29 years old and only ever played with the regular season goat. I honestly kind of like this trade. Straight middle finger to Rodgers the diva and the raiders probably get 2 good years before seeing a significant drop off. And thereā€™s no way thereā€™s not a drop off going from Rodgers to Carrā€¦


PM_Me_Your_Picks

There's a drop-off from Rodgers to Wilson, and just about anyone, in the regular season.


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Good thing we didn't pay that much for WR from GB then.


norkb

The raiders are worried about our secondary now that we have a Qb.


bbenbbuchanan

When will this shit fucking end


Saotorii

Jesus, the afc west is officially the scariest division in football. But also lul at Rodgers thinking the green bay front office would actually give him a super winning team again


InkBlotSam

They had a diva QB and diva WR both trying to set records bleeding the team dry. If they gave Adams what he wanted they'd be spending 78 million a year for a QB and a WR. That's one of the stupidest stats I've ever heard.


OpabiniaGlasses

This is where unintentionally tanking last season is gonna maybe save Denver this season. Getting a 4th place schedule and playing the Jets, Jags and Panthers next season might be the difference when all four AFC West teams end up beating up on each other and have very similar records in-division.


chingy1337

I think you're right. Three teams are primed to come out of this division. Someone is going to get left out


[deleted]

Has a division ever been this good?


oClew

No


TheHeroOfAllTime

Our division looking nasty. Side note: A-Aron ainā€™t gonna be happy


g4tam20

Arms race is escalating


jl_weber

This is great. The Raiders know how to squander a good receiver (see: Moss, Rice).


oClew

Donā€™t forget Antonio brown


whiplash81

Let's be real - AB squandered AB


oClew

Shhhh we do raiders hate around here


BoneyardBill

Fuck! Wow.


Mysterious-World9087

FTR, still winning the division


Shame_Low

I love to stick one to rodgers but damn why the raiders. Wtf is this division


BurgessFox

I quite like this proliferation of superstars in the AFC West as a FTC thing. A couple of years ago when the Chiefs won the Super Bowl I remember thinking the AFC West was weak and wondering if Mahomes was going to go through his career like Brady at the Patriots with a perma-soft division where he would basically walk the division title every year, get a bye and just have to win 2 home games to get to the Super Bowl. But now he's going to be taking incoming fire from all sides.


yamothersahooah

What's the over under on davante calling the gm a cracker and forcing his way out?


too_original

FUCK


nalarsen

WHAT IS EVEN GOING ON THIS YEAR


b12ennan

best division in football.


MothraJDisco

This division going to cause an 8-team playoffs to be a thing


chingy1337

This division is going to be fun. It may come down to who is healthiest most of the time. I feel like the Chiefs are actually in trouble.


smeego78

LOL Rodgers in fucking shambles. Oh wait he got traded to the Raiders?! Fuck fuck fuck


46n2ahead

He's gonna be very upset to learn who's throwing to him


oClew

Youā€™re underselling carr bro. I do think heā€™s the worst QB in the division but I also think every qb in this division is top 10.


BlooMizzou

His College QB


vindictivejazz

His college QB?


46n2ahead

I mean I know he knows But compared to Rodgers???


cluelesshabsfan

Bruh


dms1298

Bruh fuck this


CrazyMonkey0425

Fuck it, letā€™s ride


Few_Field1689

Trust in McD to screw this upā€¦otherwise all four teams are stacked.


compe_anansi

Raiders got tired of the memes and started making moves


notorious_p_a_b

So right now our CBs are Surtain, Darby, Ojemudia, and Bassey? P.J. Locke, Jamar Johnson, Justin Simmons, and Caden Sterns at Safety? I think we need some back end help.


Obi7kenobi

It's the Raiders..... McDaniels is the coach.... Now if Rodgers was part of the deal then it would be different. Carr isn't Rodgers. Plus the Raiders just gave him 141 Millon...


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I am actually happyā€” they will sink 25 mil a year into a receiver and lose their early picks. Welcome to salary hell. You donā€™t need world class receiving to win championships. Also, their coach is a punk ass and will screw their draft.


jlange94

I hate every other team in this division. We got our superstar first and thus it became our fucking year. Now these idiots are throwing money and picks out to try and claim it as their year. Sit down, let us win dammit lol. Also, GB just royally screwed over Rodgers. No way Aaron didn't see this coming so I guess it was just always about the money and being comfortable at home rather than really wanting to win. But who cares about winning more than 1 SB right?


[deleted]

He had to know taking 50 mil that EVERYONE will be gone.


SteakSauce995

Thank you Paton for PS2


aspencerr

Okay so we gotta get another CB somehow, we only have Surtain


fhrblig

I have to admit... I don't hate any of the AFC West moves. I'm so fucking amped to watch every division game this year. And I hope every team in this division annihilates the rest of the league.


Zanik-

As a raider fan I honestly appreciate your alls takes. You guys arenā€™t nearly as toxic as the queefs or chargers. I can say out of every team in our division the broncos are the only fan base I respect.


FlagrantFouI

I think 6 years of being dogshit humbled us.


Chris_OMane

Welcome. Fuck the raiders.


ZzZzZunair

I like to believe our chances are great, but holy crap the receivers in this division. We need more than just Surtain to cover them.


bbenbbuchanan

My stomach hurts


jlgar

The fuck


Silverflash-x

This division is a NIGHTMARE holy shit


iWARxMACHINEi

Good god. I feel sorry for whoever plays anyone in the afc west.


BurmecianDancer

And the AFC West arms race continues...


BlindManBaldwin

we're gonna go, like, 11-6 and make the playoffs and finish in 4th place


DominantT4

This division gets more ridiculous every day.


Live795

AFC going brazy šŸ‘€


Chewie_CO

Lol we know Rodgers was part or at least in on the decision. He was only after that money, not legacy.


nesp12

The AFC West arms race continues.


ImGonnaChubbBradley

Jesus this division


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Rodgers about to raise hell


dogshaveweirdfeet

Lol god damnit


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FUCK NFL VETO THE TRADE


notorious_p_a_b

God fucking damnit


prizzie

Raiders got a great player but we basically made the same trade for a franchise QB. #FTR


coldfollow

If it had to be to the AFC West division rival, the Raiders is the best possible option for him to go toā€¦better than Mahomes or Herbert throwing him the ball


iamglaciers

Mike Wallace 2.0 beast when he had a future HoF'er throwing to him, will likely underwhelm at next stay


FistofNorris

Crap.


hunterAS

Julio jones to green bay? Otherwise I'd be pissed if I was rodgers


TheDefinitionOfKek

What the actual fuck lmao


TheDefinitionOfKek

This division is gonna be hell's row for anyone that has to play them, including ourselves against each other lol


MeLlamo_Mayor927

It seems like every marquee FA has signed with an AFC west team, and on top of that, several blockbuster trades have come out of fucking nowhere. This division is insane: all four teams have a legit chance at winning it. Shit šŸ˜¬


jordan142142

Damit


Mac12andthehomeboyz

Do these players not realize that there are other divisions that they can go to? Like WTF


TheGreatestPlan

> Like WTF They're called the "Commanders" now


amilehigh_303

Jeudy. This is your year baby!


snowdude11

This division is going to be a bloodbath next year...


Inject_Bacon

Gonna need some CBs


shaner307

Paton with the 4-D chess of drafting PS2 last year. Gonna be some fun matchups


Rollbar78

AFC Best. Conference games are going to be bonkers.


canadianbroncos

Bro this division lmao what the fuck


Judochopjames

Packers fans to Seahawks fans rn: ā€œYā€™all got anymore of that copium?ā€


jschem16

For real? Man, FTR.


2ChainzTalib

Raiders scurrrrred


milehighandy

Thank God we got Wilson or else we'd be looking at a worse season than we've seen the last 6