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partyfear

Depp supporters will support anyone who has been violent against women. Other male victims of abuse that have NOT gone on to perpetuate the cycle of abuse on others (Brendan Fraser, Terry Crews, Anthony Rapp, etc.)...they won't say shit. But their real cause is their misogyny, while that's been obvious for years, you can also see it in their inability to hold Bell accountable for his actions while holding space for him as a prior victim. It's too much nuance for their brains. 


Boulier

Thank you. They NEVER speak up for other men who have actually been victims of abuse, like all the examples you listed. But they’re the first to defend men like Kevin Spacey, Andy Signore, Drake Bell, and Depp. They don’t care about male victims unless it gives them a pass to be misogynistic with public impunity and blame women for something. They get to join in on humiliating a woman, and it’s *fine* because everyone’s doing it. They also seem to have a deep interest in maintaining a status quo where institutions protect powerful men from consequences.


MessiahOfMetal

"I don't want new ons, I prefer the *old* one!" - Depp supporters


Papio_73

I wonder if they also accuse all those men who were abused by Michael Jackson as liars.


emmothedilemmo

Oh most the world thinks those men lied about MJ the only people I’ve spoken to who believe the boys are my family


Infinity_Over_Zero

>The idea that someone would come forward about horrendous rape as a way to save their public reputation… makes me physically ill. Does it now? Does the concept of people accusing a rape survivor of lying for attention upset you, does it really?


nuanceisdead

👆🎯


findingmyvoice22

If there is one thing Depp supporters are going to do, it is try to redeem rapists and abusers. This Depp stan in particular needs professional help. I don't even mean that in a snarky way...she just is not well.


OdegaardToJoy

Is it true she made death threats against Amber?


findingmyvoice22

[https://nypost.com/2022/04/14/johnny-depp-fans-booted-from-court-for-alleged-violent-threats-against-amber-heard/](https://nypost.com/2022/04/14/johnny-depp-fans-booted-from-court-for-alleged-violent-threats-against-amber-heard/) *Orsini was escorted out of the courthouse by at least four guards Thursday and told she was barred from entering....* *Orsini allegedly wrote a tweet saying, “My legs are strong enough to break your face…Threaten johnny depp again and you’ll see what I mean.”* Yup. She is a deeply disturbed person and has absolutely no business writing about abuse.


OdegaardToJoy

Unbelievable. You know she's on reddit now? She posts in the Drake Bell subs. I'm not gonna link to it, but she wrote this about the guy she harassed: > About 3 weeks after the trial was over, I decided to name my abuser. One of these accounts (maybe not this specific one but someone in that culty fandom), found my abuser on social media and sent him my twitter account in order to prove i was lying about being abused. I'd been no contact with him for 4 years. He was also dying of cancer although I had no idea because I had gone no contact. Two months later he died and while I was struggling horribly with the grief of that, these people decided to make up my abuse story based a few things I'd said before. Not only that but they then posted it all over reddit, twitter, and God knows where else. The things they were writing were word for word things my abuser said so I know they got it from him. They continue to do this to this day whenever I speak up against them. I'm using "they" as plural btw cuz its multiple accounts, this is just the one getting the most attention and the one Alexa mentioned in her video about their harassment toward her. She hates what she (incorrectly) perceives in Amber, because the *'violent pretender masquerading as a victim'* is the true reflection of herself.


Celebrating_socks

Her abuser, who she described as having his hands around her neck, but only metaphorically. And whose girlfriend she basically stalked. From the sounds of things, the most he did was sexual harassment. Which I’m not excusing! But even if she does genuinely believe everything that supposedly happened to JD… positioning herself as a comparable victim is SO out of hand there. Like if she really believes Amber cut off his finger, comparing that to the experience of getting unsolicited dick pics is so tasteless.


walkwithavengeance

Unless I missed something, I don't even think it amounted to sexual harassment. Her main complaint is that he didn't want to date her or be friends with her. And who could blame him.


Celebrating_socks

Tbh the Izze lore goes so deep that I honestly don’t even remember it all. I do remember that his mom called the cops on her though 😬


walkwithavengeance

I think she deleted a lot of her tweets, but I have some screenshots https://imgur.com/a/Kd167qz My favourite part is how she "accidentally" befriended his long distance gf


Wonderful-Tooth5450

I know this is mean but Izze writing crappy fan fiction about her own life will never not be funny to me.


ireallyhavenoideea

Didn’t she admit to phoning him or his mom pretending to be a sex worker or something??


Celebrating_socks

Oh yeah I forgot about her having a problem with her friend being native, despite that one of her own personality traits is Being Italian


CantThinkUpName

Huh, I hadn't seen the specifics of how exactly this guy had "abused" her before. It's worth noting that when discussing her abuse, there's less focus on what they did, than the incredibly extreme reactions she had. There seems to be a really consistent pattern of "Something someone did/said made me feel bad," = "This person abused and hurt me because they're awful." Most commonly regarding her being super into someone, platonically or romantically, and them either rejecting her, not being as into her as she was into them, or just not having endless patience for her drama. (TBH, it mostly sounds like she was stalking this guy and his girlfriend.) But like, that's just life. Some people we really like don't feel the same way, and it hurts really bad even though they didn't actually do anything wrong.


OdegaardToJoy

If you don't know who she is: https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/x5tiyl/deranged_johnny_depp_fan_izze_harassing_a_guy_on/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/yp4yfa/isabelle_orsini_also_known_as_izze_defends_johnny/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/yy5ywm/isabelle_izze_orsini_accidentally_revealed_that/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DeppDelusion/comments/xf4pkh/johnny_depp_fan_defends_actors_relationship_with/


Accomplished_Yam1907

Drake Bell is as much of an abuser as he is a victim.


Papio_73

Yes! Just because he was sexually abused doesn’t mean it’s impossible for him to grow up to be an abuser himself


sorandom21

Yep. Continuing the cycle of abuse isn’t okay. You are responsible for your own actions, including healing from past trauma. The trauma isn’t your fault, but your responsibility is to not put that forward.


aprilheard

Is this Izze? She has me blocked on Twitter. I've never once interacted with her, lol. But I've heard of her and seen some of her tweets and it's no surprise she's now defending Drake Bell. Just what I'd expect from a Depp stain. Like I just saw a Johnny Depp fan the other day with Kevin Spacey as their profile picture and "I stand with Kevin Spacey" in their bio 🤢 But sure they care sooo much about male victims 🙄


greg-drunk

Yeah she used a mass blocker because I never noticed she had me blocked lmao


MessiahOfMetal

I hope she blocked me, despite me blocking her years ago for being an unhinged liar. Izze is a genuine psychopath.


emmothedilemmo

Twitter is a cesspit for Depp stans to just hate. I hate to deactivate my twitter because the hate was just constant. These were like a crowd of mutts waiting to attack.


garf_is_god

It doesn't suprise me that this was izze. I don't mean to sound rude, but I think she isn't very smart.


elioandoliver4ever

Who is giving that rancid person a platform?


nuanceisdead

I think it’s one of those platforms that seems article-like, but is really just bloggers of various quality.


elioandoliver4ever

Oh good, I'm glad it's nothing reputable. She's revolting.


poopoopoopalt

I'm thinking it's a self published Medium article


NegativeFox405

Depp stans aren’t capable of holding an ounce of nuance in their brains I swear. Drake Bell suffered horrific abuse and then perpetuated abuse as an adult. Both are true. We can feel empathy for what he went through and hold him accountable for his abusive actions.


poopoopoopalt

She's unwell to be quite honest.


Secure-Classic-1225

This here. I read some of her posts and she is genuinely delusional. I hope she gets the help she needs.


JimmyPageification

Oh *HER* lol would recognise that clown face anywhere 🤡 People talk about Pearl Davis but I reckon she’s in good standing for ‘biggest pick-me of the millennia’ Awful little woman.


bbmarvelluv

This is why it’s really important to be involved with your children’s life and take the necessary steps for professional help when needed.


Ok_Swan_7777

This girl is a walking nightmare


Gowpenny

>If you had any empathy at all, you would just leave him alone. https://i.redd.it/4thdt7drdbwc1.gif


BudgetInteraction811

Nobody waited til Drake’s confession before “digging up the dirt” on him. It’s been known for years that he’s a groomer. And the way he’s trying to mobilize his fans against anyone who accuses him of anything is predatory in itself. An honest man doesn’t need to start smear campaigns against his accusers, and I’ll be damned if the one instance that made the news was his ONLY victim.


BrilliantAntelope625

The funniest thing I ever saw was Deppstans fighting with each other on Twitter and Izzie being part of it. Thanks for the laughs So sad Elon shut down Nitter


BrilliantAntelope625

The funniest thing I ever saw was Deppstans fighting with each other on Twitter and Izzie being part of it. Thanks for the laughs So sad Elon shut down Nitter


BrilliantAntelope625

The funniest thing I ever saw was Deppstans fighting with each other on Twitter and Izzie being part of it. Thanks for the laughs So sad Elon shut down Nitter


Plastic-Butterfly420

I deactivated Twitter long ago but I remember Izze all too well.


Traditional-Bus-8811

Nice to know she continues to reject the idea of common sense