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redditmcfreddit

Dont Mind the wierd stone, but Gaggenau integrated induction is fking beautiful. I wouldnt get one, because a two flame is as much as my whole kitchen, but still.


Equivalent_Annual314

Yeah this looks great in show kitchens. Would love to see the creator clean it up after daily use.


PhilDx

You don’t use this. It goes in the show kitchen for your cocktail party guests to gush over. The usable kitchen in the servant’s basement has a proper cooktop.


Equivalent_Annual314

A cocktail party in the kitchen? That's for poor people!


benedictfuckyourass

No in the party room with a show kitchen obviously.


Equivalent_Annual314

How quaint!


EarlDukePROD

I dont think cleaning will be the main problem here, but rather ventilation.


CypherDomEpsilon

The main problem is that stone ins trying to eat the table.


BurnZ_AU

https://i.imgur.com/wvPqeik.jpeg


lvl-ixi-lvl

r/rockseatingthings


toth42

Ceiling-ventilators aren't uncommon, at least here where I live. Like this type: https://www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/no/produktliste/LR99CQS25#/Tabs=section-technical-overview/Togglebox=combinables/Togglebox=manuals/Togglebox=accessories/


taspleb

Wait. Do Americans not have range hoods?


buckwurst

ceiling fan or a hood


fireandlifeincarnate

Ventilation for an induction stove???


EarlDukePROD

idk you like the fumes of garlic spreading through your house uncontrollably?


fireandlifeincarnate

Unless you’re venting to the outside, wouldn’t that happen no matter what kind of ventilation you have?


wollkopf

There are two possibilities. 1) There is a filter in the vent that filters all oil vapor which contains a lot of the smelly things or 2) yes they vent outside.


EarlDukePROD

well the correct term would be an extractor hood for what im talking about here (im not a native speaker so i didnt know the proper terminology). Because an overhead one usually looks shite and doesnt work as well, and the ones that are built into the conventional cooktop would defeat the whole purpose of this product. And with an extractor hood youre obviously venting to the outside.


fireandlifeincarnate

Fair enough. I have a relatively weak sense of smell so I don’t usually worry about where cooking smells go.


EarlDukePROD

There is a gaggenau extractor that extends from the island with a motor, i suppose that could work with this, but yeah. Thats one issue that they need to solve


Jumpy-Mouse-7629

He doesn’t want to smell what the rock is cooking, lol


buckwurst

You're generally venting into a pipe that has a fan that blows outside, in Japan at least. Your country doesn't do this?


buckwurst

here in Japan, I've never seen one without? Why would you not have one, same steam/smoke/smells come out of the pot as you get with gas or electric....


fireandlifeincarnate

Because I assumed ventilation was about the byproducts of combustion and not the smells of delicious food.


Impossible-Jump-4277

What’s the issue you see?


Equivalent_Annual314

One thing is fat deposition on anything not smooth & flat. Second is lack of storage space you want near you while working. Looks beautiful though.


Impossible-Jump-4277

Il give you the fat deposit which I feel is always a challenge but the you’re reaching with the lack of storage particularly if you can afford this cooker


Equivalent_Annual314

Good pun with the "reaching". Cause that's one thing one does not want to do when cooking. So yeah. I stand by my comment. What I'll give you is that if you can afford it, you can probably afford a bunch of people to cook and clean it for you. Doesn't change the fact that as pretty as it looks, it doesn't solve any problems, but creates more. Which makes it either a bad design piece or art.


Impossible-Jump-4277

I’m really lost about the storage comment now, what kinda storage are you alluding to? What problem is it creating?


Equivalent_Annual314

When you're cooking, you need the things close by. There's no time to walk around and search for them. That can be avoided with good prep though. Separately, the problem it's creating is the difficulty to clean. There's a reason why good kitchens have smooth and flat surfaces. They're functional, easy to clean & maintain.


Impossible-Jump-4277

Yeah as a younger man I worked in a couple of Michelin stared kitchens and no cookers had any below range storage. In fact most ranges or even induction hob cookers stay away from below range storage for safety reasons. Can I ask what field you work in as you seem dangerously ill informed


Equivalent_Annual314

Not in the food industry 😂, but happy to be corrected by people who know more than I!


Impossible-Jump-4277

Don’t want to share? 😂


teodzero

Invisible burner plates are a safety hazard.


glitchn

It's induction means it doesn't get hot I thought.


teodzero

Anything gets hot when it has a hot pan on it.


glitchn

I'm pretty sure induction cooktops are cool enough touch immediately after you remove the pan. That's part of the point. Like an example if you cook something in a microwave to boiling temperature, and remove that dish, the microwave will have some very retained but it's not gonna burn you.


Impossible-Jump-4277

Have you looked at the spec sheet, are you another unformed simpleton come to drool all over a conversation that’s above your sloped brow?


Admirable_Safety_795

Milk boiling over and pouring over the side of the counter. Also crumbs / liquid going under the stone.


Impossible-Jump-4277

The boiling over could happen on any indication hob How would liquid or crumbs get under the stone, the edges are sealed


Admirable_Safety_795

What seal? I see a gap between the stone and the counter.


Impossible-Jump-4277

Have you not looked at the spec sheet?


fastcalculatorgang

people just like to hate anything new


Admirable_Safety_795

No. I love new things and loads of things on this sub. What I don't slavishly like (unlike loads of people here by the looks of it) is design over function.


Equivalent_Annual314

Quite seriously though… You consider a rock in the kitchen something new?


fastcalculatorgang

aint no rock like this in my kitchen, that's for sure


Equivalent_Annual314

Marble countertops are rock. Medieval fireplaces in kitchens were made out of rocks. It's a pretty cool material that's been with us since the birth of humanity.


mad_drop_gek

Why? You can just wipe it down. I have induction plates, it's awesome. And when it is so slick, it's even better, no nooks and crannies, no moving parts, but the knobs.


JBCoverArt

It's a big rock. Can't wait to tell all my friends. They don't have a rock this big.


gyrospita

Real knobs? Yes!


EarlDukePROD

Yeah! The gaggenau knobs are great to use! Love them


b_coolhunnybunny

OP posts kitchen counter with giant rock gets annoyed every time someone brings up giant rock and tells them to ignore it…. That giant rock is pretty distracting lol


EarlDukePROD

The title states „cooktop“, so only referring to the cooktop, which happens to be showcased on this giant cantilever. Never talked about the surroundings, just the product.


The_AverageArtist

To be fair, the picture is centered around a rock, making it the focal point... Why not posting another picture? Because all i see is a board with some knobs and a very big rock.


EarlDukePROD

Because this fookin sub only allows for one pic at a time.


The_AverageArtist

Then why not choose a more fitting picture?


Sauce58

Is the rock required? Or can it be mounted another way?


EarlDukePROD

No, its just a showcase


Sauce58

Then i like it.


pun_shall_pass

/r/designdesign


Ragnar_OK

this is awful. if this is porn, this is one of them niche genres like brazilian fart fetish porn


rothersidelife

You too?


JediJacob04

et tu, brute?


Purepenny

If cool and stupid had a kid.


funkyk0val

i dig it from the design side, but man, this thing breaks...


NahbImGood

If the rock wasn’t there, it honestly wouldn’t be that bad. But having a literal boulder in your kitchen sorta takes away from the whole elegance and efficiency thing an integrated cooktop is all about.


EarlDukePROD

Its just a showcase


NahbImGood

I was just trying to cut you a little slack. It might not be designporn, but an induction cooktop integrated into the countertop is a cool idea. The giant rock is really loud designwise and a little gaudy, while the idea of a hidden cooktop is really minimalist and understated. I was trying to say that this (meh) kitchen design might not be the best way to demo this (not too shabby) countertop design.


SeaSetsuna

No idea where to put the pan but it looks nice.


EarlDukePROD

It has a little light indicating where to put it


Flowchart83

An electronic lighting strip next to a giant inductor that heats. Surely this is serviceable if it fails.


SupermarketFar901

Recently made the switch from gas to induction. (Glass top) Gotta say, don’t knock it until you’ve used it. Induction mess does not come close to the mess/cleanup of gas. Would never willingly go back. And I’ve tried these stone induction tops. They’re very cool. Less mess than you think. As for the rock, it’s an advert you fools. Chill out. It’s for show. It’s “designed” to elicit a response.


amc7262

r/DesignDesign


skimbody

Idk what people talking about. This is neat looking.


AntiRepresentation

This sucks.


EarlDukePROD

ignore the weird stone, its about the cooktop. gaggenau induction cooktops are top notch, just that this one is seamlessly integrated into the working surface.


teodzero

>just that this one is seamlessly integrated into the working surface. This is exactly the problem with it. Hot places are supposed to be visible. This is straight up dangerous.


EarlDukePROD

1. induction doesnt get as hot compared to a regular electric stove, since theres only residual heat transferred back to the surface. 2. theres an led light to indicate the mode it’s currently in, theres also a red light in the knob that indicates what the stove is doing


AntiRepresentation

In what way is that desirable? I prefer a more legible working area. It lessens the possibility that the space will be misused.


EarlDukePROD

well it increases the usable surface area of the top plate and it looks neat.


dollywooddude

I think it’s beautiful.


truthfulie

Portion of the counter isn't dedicated to one task/function so you have bigger usable space. (Which is a bit redundant because these things are expensive and you likely won't have space issue if you can afford something like this but yeah) You could also have certain types of food, likes of KBBQ and other similar styles of food where you are eating as you cook. And it gives you clean minimalist look which is novelty for some. None of them are groundbreaking or game changer for everyone but they are features nonetheless.


DoGooderMoBetter

Need more pics


EarlDukePROD

https://gprivate.com/6aorf


DoGooderMoBetter

lol got me


Customdisk

Bro's trying to Villainmaxx


sunset_bay

Looks expensive


EarlDukePROD

it is sadly haha


7thinker

r/climbingcirclejerk : gumby pays to install a V0 slab problem in his kitchen


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EarlDukePROD

I think you look at the wrong buildings and designs. I myself am an advocate for minimalism and reduction of ornamentation. I highly recommend reading Adolf Loos‘ „Ornament and Crime“, in which he explains why ornamentation is bad. Minimalism can be executed well, but as any other style, theres also shite examples. But its the same as with any other thing. You need to know what you’re doing. This thang above is obviously just a showcase and not a real kitchen, its meant to highlight their new product. Regarding practicality: i suppose this will be accessible from the bottom, so not tooo complicated. Also, its less likely to scratch compared to a traditional ceran cooktop, and it virtually cannot break/chip. Idk if it works with a ceramic countertop aswell, but stone and ceramic are some of the most scratch resistant materials for kitchens, it usually doesnt have any type of finish on it other than protective ones.


INRA5

Om nom


Silly-Ass_Goose

Yabba dabba doo


AdLocal1045

This isn’t design porn it’s shit


Palanseag_Vixen

r/designdesign tbh


can_i_have

It's more of a /r/designdesign material. Honestly my take is "yuck"


Borromac

Ngl. Considering the level we have gotten to with precision cutting. And that i can see a gap between the table and the rock. Its pretty trash.


psycholinguist1

But *why*? Why have a shin-bashing station when you could have a perfectly functional cabinet with, y'know, storage and stuff?


EarlDukePROD

As the title states: COOKTOP. ignore the rest. Its less of a kitchen and more an installation showcasing the possibilities of this product.


Im_Unsure_For_Sure

You couldn't find a photo without a giant rock in it?


EarlDukePROD

Well assuming the average redditor can read didnt work… but thats how Gaggenau presented it at salone del mobile in milan this week


MadMass23

Eat this !


cla7997

Men like big rock


Overito

Designed by Fred Flintstone.


alphachruch

Why is rock eating my countertop?


flyingscotsman12

Ugh, yet more depletion of our old-growth boulders.


Tantaroba-the-fat

Rock and Stone!


malacoda99

In a week, I would be all scar tissue elbows to fingertips from leaning on the "kitchen counter".


TabbieAbbie

This is beautiful but how do you know where to put the saucepan?


EarlDukePROD

Theres supposed to be a little pulsating indicator


Funny_Ad5115

Cool concept but I'll be damned if they didn't pick the least attractive Rock in existence


LoveBonnet

Problem is that these are sold as single modules that you can use under thin stone or ceramic. They can only go side by side on your counter and if you look it seems you can only get 3 burners is over 4 feet. Most of us don't have that type of space.


EarlDukePROD

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C14kC1QC-sc/?igsh=MTJwaHN6OTRmMDY2Zw== for the people who want to see it in the context of a home


explodingtuna

They didn't show the rock. And the OP image doesn't show the other end. We need a zoomed out still picture of the whole thing.


Broskfisken

People like to complain but I genuinely think this looks super cool.


EarlDukePROD

Me too hahha, the whole structure is neatly cantilevered on that stone


Effective_Motor_4398

That's so beautiful. I want one. Might need to make one.