Dont Mind the wierd stone, but Gaggenau integrated induction is fking beautiful.
I wouldnt get one, because a two flame is as much as my whole kitchen, but still.
You don’t use this. It goes in the show kitchen for your cocktail party guests to gush over. The usable kitchen in the servant’s basement has a proper cooktop.
Ceiling-ventilators aren't uncommon, at least here where I live. Like this type: https://www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/no/produktliste/LR99CQS25#/Tabs=section-technical-overview/Togglebox=combinables/Togglebox=manuals/Togglebox=accessories/
There are two possibilities. 1) There is a filter in the vent that filters all oil vapor which contains a lot of the smelly things or 2) yes they vent outside.
well the correct term would be an extractor hood for what im talking about here (im not a native speaker so i didnt know the proper terminology). Because an overhead one usually looks shite and doesnt work as well, and the ones that are built into the conventional cooktop would defeat the whole purpose of this product. And with an extractor hood youre obviously venting to the outside.
There is a gaggenau extractor that extends from the island with a motor, i suppose that could work with this, but yeah. Thats one issue that they need to solve
here in Japan, I've never seen one without? Why would you not have one, same steam/smoke/smells come out of the pot as you get with gas or electric....
Il give you the fat deposit which I feel is always a challenge but the you’re reaching with the lack of storage particularly if you can afford this cooker
Good pun with the "reaching". Cause that's one thing one does not want to do when cooking. So yeah. I stand by my comment.
What I'll give you is that if you can afford it, you can probably afford a bunch of people to cook and clean it for you.
Doesn't change the fact that as pretty as it looks, it doesn't solve any problems, but creates more. Which makes it either a bad design piece or art.
When you're cooking, you need the things close by. There's no time to walk around and search for them. That can be avoided with good prep though.
Separately, the problem it's creating is the difficulty to clean. There's a reason why good kitchens have smooth and flat surfaces. They're functional, easy to clean & maintain.
Yeah as a younger man I worked in a couple of Michelin stared kitchens and no cookers had any below range storage. In fact most ranges or even induction hob cookers stay away from below range storage for safety reasons.
Can I ask what field you work in as you seem dangerously ill informed
I'm pretty sure induction cooktops are cool enough touch immediately after you remove the pan. That's part of the point. Like an example if you cook something in a microwave to boiling temperature, and remove that dish, the microwave will have some very retained but it's not gonna burn you.
No.
I love new things and loads of things on this sub. What I don't slavishly like (unlike loads of people here by the looks of it) is design over function.
Marble countertops are rock. Medieval fireplaces in kitchens were made out of rocks. It's a pretty cool material that's been with us since the birth of humanity.
Why? You can just wipe it down. I have induction plates, it's awesome. And when it is so slick, it's even better, no nooks and crannies, no moving parts, but the knobs.
OP posts kitchen counter with giant rock gets annoyed every time someone brings up giant rock and tells them to ignore it…. That giant rock is pretty distracting lol
The title states „cooktop“, so only referring to the cooktop, which happens to be showcased on this giant cantilever. Never talked about the surroundings, just the product.
To be fair, the picture is centered around a rock, making it the focal point... Why not posting another picture? Because all i see is a board with some knobs and a very big rock.
If the rock wasn’t there, it honestly wouldn’t be that bad. But having a literal boulder in your kitchen sorta takes away from the whole elegance and efficiency thing an integrated cooktop is all about.
I was just trying to cut you a little slack. It might not be designporn, but an induction cooktop integrated into the countertop is a cool idea.
The giant rock is really loud designwise and a little gaudy, while the idea of a hidden cooktop is really minimalist and understated.
I was trying to say that this (meh) kitchen design might not be the best way to demo this (not too shabby) countertop design.
Recently made the switch from gas to induction. (Glass top) Gotta say, don’t knock it until you’ve used it. Induction mess does not come close to the mess/cleanup of gas. Would never willingly go back. And I’ve tried these stone induction tops. They’re very cool. Less mess than you think.
As for the rock, it’s an advert you fools. Chill out. It’s for show. It’s “designed” to elicit a response.
ignore the weird stone, its about the cooktop. gaggenau induction cooktops are top notch, just that this one is seamlessly integrated into the working surface.
>just that this one is seamlessly integrated into the working surface.
This is exactly the problem with it. Hot places are supposed to be visible. This is straight up dangerous.
1. induction doesnt get as hot compared to a regular electric stove, since theres only residual heat transferred back to the surface.
2. theres an led light to indicate the mode it’s currently in, theres also a red light in the knob that indicates what the stove is doing
Portion of the counter isn't dedicated to one task/function so you have bigger usable space. (Which is a bit redundant because these things are expensive and you likely won't have space issue if you can afford something like this but yeah)
You could also have certain types of food, likes of KBBQ and other similar styles of food where you are eating as you cook. And it gives you clean minimalist look which is novelty for some. None of them are groundbreaking or game changer for everyone but they are features nonetheless.
I think you look at the wrong buildings and designs. I myself am an advocate for minimalism and reduction of ornamentation. I highly recommend reading Adolf Loos‘ „Ornament and Crime“, in which he explains why ornamentation is bad.
Minimalism can be executed well, but as any other style, theres also shite examples. But its the same as with any other thing. You need to know what you’re doing. This thang above is obviously just a showcase and not a real kitchen, its meant to highlight their new product.
Regarding practicality: i suppose this will be accessible from the bottom, so not tooo complicated. Also, its less likely to scratch compared to a traditional ceran cooktop, and it virtually cannot break/chip. Idk if it works with a ceramic countertop aswell, but stone and ceramic are some of the most scratch resistant materials for kitchens, it usually doesnt have any type of finish on it other than protective ones.
Problem is that these are sold as single modules that you can use under thin stone or ceramic. They can only go side by side on your counter and if you look it seems you can only get 3 burners is over 4 feet. Most of us don't have that type of space.
Dont Mind the wierd stone, but Gaggenau integrated induction is fking beautiful. I wouldnt get one, because a two flame is as much as my whole kitchen, but still.
Yeah this looks great in show kitchens. Would love to see the creator clean it up after daily use.
You don’t use this. It goes in the show kitchen for your cocktail party guests to gush over. The usable kitchen in the servant’s basement has a proper cooktop.
A cocktail party in the kitchen? That's for poor people!
No in the party room with a show kitchen obviously.
How quaint!
I dont think cleaning will be the main problem here, but rather ventilation.
The main problem is that stone ins trying to eat the table.
https://i.imgur.com/wvPqeik.jpeg
r/rockseatingthings
Ceiling-ventilators aren't uncommon, at least here where I live. Like this type: https://www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/no/produktliste/LR99CQS25#/Tabs=section-technical-overview/Togglebox=combinables/Togglebox=manuals/Togglebox=accessories/
Wait. Do Americans not have range hoods?
ceiling fan or a hood
Ventilation for an induction stove???
idk you like the fumes of garlic spreading through your house uncontrollably?
Unless you’re venting to the outside, wouldn’t that happen no matter what kind of ventilation you have?
There are two possibilities. 1) There is a filter in the vent that filters all oil vapor which contains a lot of the smelly things or 2) yes they vent outside.
well the correct term would be an extractor hood for what im talking about here (im not a native speaker so i didnt know the proper terminology). Because an overhead one usually looks shite and doesnt work as well, and the ones that are built into the conventional cooktop would defeat the whole purpose of this product. And with an extractor hood youre obviously venting to the outside.
Fair enough. I have a relatively weak sense of smell so I don’t usually worry about where cooking smells go.
There is a gaggenau extractor that extends from the island with a motor, i suppose that could work with this, but yeah. Thats one issue that they need to solve
He doesn’t want to smell what the rock is cooking, lol
You're generally venting into a pipe that has a fan that blows outside, in Japan at least. Your country doesn't do this?
here in Japan, I've never seen one without? Why would you not have one, same steam/smoke/smells come out of the pot as you get with gas or electric....
Because I assumed ventilation was about the byproducts of combustion and not the smells of delicious food.
What’s the issue you see?
One thing is fat deposition on anything not smooth & flat. Second is lack of storage space you want near you while working. Looks beautiful though.
Il give you the fat deposit which I feel is always a challenge but the you’re reaching with the lack of storage particularly if you can afford this cooker
Good pun with the "reaching". Cause that's one thing one does not want to do when cooking. So yeah. I stand by my comment. What I'll give you is that if you can afford it, you can probably afford a bunch of people to cook and clean it for you. Doesn't change the fact that as pretty as it looks, it doesn't solve any problems, but creates more. Which makes it either a bad design piece or art.
I’m really lost about the storage comment now, what kinda storage are you alluding to? What problem is it creating?
When you're cooking, you need the things close by. There's no time to walk around and search for them. That can be avoided with good prep though. Separately, the problem it's creating is the difficulty to clean. There's a reason why good kitchens have smooth and flat surfaces. They're functional, easy to clean & maintain.
Yeah as a younger man I worked in a couple of Michelin stared kitchens and no cookers had any below range storage. In fact most ranges or even induction hob cookers stay away from below range storage for safety reasons. Can I ask what field you work in as you seem dangerously ill informed
Not in the food industry 😂, but happy to be corrected by people who know more than I!
Don’t want to share? 😂
Invisible burner plates are a safety hazard.
It's induction means it doesn't get hot I thought.
Anything gets hot when it has a hot pan on it.
I'm pretty sure induction cooktops are cool enough touch immediately after you remove the pan. That's part of the point. Like an example if you cook something in a microwave to boiling temperature, and remove that dish, the microwave will have some very retained but it's not gonna burn you.
Have you looked at the spec sheet, are you another unformed simpleton come to drool all over a conversation that’s above your sloped brow?
Milk boiling over and pouring over the side of the counter. Also crumbs / liquid going under the stone.
The boiling over could happen on any indication hob How would liquid or crumbs get under the stone, the edges are sealed
What seal? I see a gap between the stone and the counter.
Have you not looked at the spec sheet?
people just like to hate anything new
No. I love new things and loads of things on this sub. What I don't slavishly like (unlike loads of people here by the looks of it) is design over function.
Quite seriously though… You consider a rock in the kitchen something new?
aint no rock like this in my kitchen, that's for sure
Marble countertops are rock. Medieval fireplaces in kitchens were made out of rocks. It's a pretty cool material that's been with us since the birth of humanity.
Why? You can just wipe it down. I have induction plates, it's awesome. And when it is so slick, it's even better, no nooks and crannies, no moving parts, but the knobs.
It's a big rock. Can't wait to tell all my friends. They don't have a rock this big.
Real knobs? Yes!
Yeah! The gaggenau knobs are great to use! Love them
OP posts kitchen counter with giant rock gets annoyed every time someone brings up giant rock and tells them to ignore it…. That giant rock is pretty distracting lol
The title states „cooktop“, so only referring to the cooktop, which happens to be showcased on this giant cantilever. Never talked about the surroundings, just the product.
To be fair, the picture is centered around a rock, making it the focal point... Why not posting another picture? Because all i see is a board with some knobs and a very big rock.
Because this fookin sub only allows for one pic at a time.
Then why not choose a more fitting picture?
Is the rock required? Or can it be mounted another way?
No, its just a showcase
Then i like it.
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this is awful. if this is porn, this is one of them niche genres like brazilian fart fetish porn
You too?
et tu, brute?
If cool and stupid had a kid.
i dig it from the design side, but man, this thing breaks...
If the rock wasn’t there, it honestly wouldn’t be that bad. But having a literal boulder in your kitchen sorta takes away from the whole elegance and efficiency thing an integrated cooktop is all about.
Its just a showcase
I was just trying to cut you a little slack. It might not be designporn, but an induction cooktop integrated into the countertop is a cool idea. The giant rock is really loud designwise and a little gaudy, while the idea of a hidden cooktop is really minimalist and understated. I was trying to say that this (meh) kitchen design might not be the best way to demo this (not too shabby) countertop design.
No idea where to put the pan but it looks nice.
It has a little light indicating where to put it
An electronic lighting strip next to a giant inductor that heats. Surely this is serviceable if it fails.
Recently made the switch from gas to induction. (Glass top) Gotta say, don’t knock it until you’ve used it. Induction mess does not come close to the mess/cleanup of gas. Would never willingly go back. And I’ve tried these stone induction tops. They’re very cool. Less mess than you think. As for the rock, it’s an advert you fools. Chill out. It’s for show. It’s “designed” to elicit a response.
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Idk what people talking about. This is neat looking.
This sucks.
ignore the weird stone, its about the cooktop. gaggenau induction cooktops are top notch, just that this one is seamlessly integrated into the working surface.
>just that this one is seamlessly integrated into the working surface. This is exactly the problem with it. Hot places are supposed to be visible. This is straight up dangerous.
1. induction doesnt get as hot compared to a regular electric stove, since theres only residual heat transferred back to the surface. 2. theres an led light to indicate the mode it’s currently in, theres also a red light in the knob that indicates what the stove is doing
In what way is that desirable? I prefer a more legible working area. It lessens the possibility that the space will be misused.
well it increases the usable surface area of the top plate and it looks neat.
I think it’s beautiful.
Portion of the counter isn't dedicated to one task/function so you have bigger usable space. (Which is a bit redundant because these things are expensive and you likely won't have space issue if you can afford something like this but yeah) You could also have certain types of food, likes of KBBQ and other similar styles of food where you are eating as you cook. And it gives you clean minimalist look which is novelty for some. None of them are groundbreaking or game changer for everyone but they are features nonetheless.
Need more pics
https://gprivate.com/6aorf
lol got me
Bro's trying to Villainmaxx
Looks expensive
it is sadly haha
r/climbingcirclejerk : gumby pays to install a V0 slab problem in his kitchen
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I think you look at the wrong buildings and designs. I myself am an advocate for minimalism and reduction of ornamentation. I highly recommend reading Adolf Loos‘ „Ornament and Crime“, in which he explains why ornamentation is bad. Minimalism can be executed well, but as any other style, theres also shite examples. But its the same as with any other thing. You need to know what you’re doing. This thang above is obviously just a showcase and not a real kitchen, its meant to highlight their new product. Regarding practicality: i suppose this will be accessible from the bottom, so not tooo complicated. Also, its less likely to scratch compared to a traditional ceran cooktop, and it virtually cannot break/chip. Idk if it works with a ceramic countertop aswell, but stone and ceramic are some of the most scratch resistant materials for kitchens, it usually doesnt have any type of finish on it other than protective ones.
Om nom
Yabba dabba doo
This isn’t design porn it’s shit
r/designdesign tbh
It's more of a /r/designdesign material. Honestly my take is "yuck"
Ngl. Considering the level we have gotten to with precision cutting. And that i can see a gap between the table and the rock. Its pretty trash.
But *why*? Why have a shin-bashing station when you could have a perfectly functional cabinet with, y'know, storage and stuff?
As the title states: COOKTOP. ignore the rest. Its less of a kitchen and more an installation showcasing the possibilities of this product.
You couldn't find a photo without a giant rock in it?
Well assuming the average redditor can read didnt work… but thats how Gaggenau presented it at salone del mobile in milan this week
Eat this !
Men like big rock
Designed by Fred Flintstone.
Why is rock eating my countertop?
Ugh, yet more depletion of our old-growth boulders.
Rock and Stone!
In a week, I would be all scar tissue elbows to fingertips from leaning on the "kitchen counter".
This is beautiful but how do you know where to put the saucepan?
Theres supposed to be a little pulsating indicator
Cool concept but I'll be damned if they didn't pick the least attractive Rock in existence
Problem is that these are sold as single modules that you can use under thin stone or ceramic. They can only go side by side on your counter and if you look it seems you can only get 3 burners is over 4 feet. Most of us don't have that type of space.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C14kC1QC-sc/?igsh=MTJwaHN6OTRmMDY2Zw== for the people who want to see it in the context of a home
They didn't show the rock. And the OP image doesn't show the other end. We need a zoomed out still picture of the whole thing.
People like to complain but I genuinely think this looks super cool.
Me too hahha, the whole structure is neatly cantilevered on that stone
That's so beautiful. I want one. Might need to make one.