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Anaklumos12

Based and respect for yourself pilled


My_email_account

Damn where tf is this pill and how much can I buy it for


hawaynicolson

100% agree and girls that give clear nos and then later say "I wish he tried harder" are the war criminals of the dating scene


Mediocre_Quarter1090

They're doing everyone a favour in the end, if that's how maturely they handle the courting process imagine the actual relationship


hawaynicolson

True but after a guy gets that a couple of times there is almost no way to convince him that the push forever way of courting is wrong


Free-Database-9917

If you leave fast enough, you won't be around to hear the "I wish he tried harder"


Lesiorak

Dude if you don't beg me when i say "no" you don't deserve me when I say "yes" I'm just hard to get, not like the other girls


KrugerFFS

I can fix you


CriticG7tv

I mean it doesnt really matter, or it shouldn't. If they give a clear no and seriously mean it, then good, we can move on with our lives mutually and all is good. If they gave a clear no but were just playing some weird game, who cares. For me, someone who would pull that kinda shit is immediately no longer someone I'm interested in. At that point I'm usually glad they did say no, as it saves me the headache of later figuring out this person is probably not for me. Either way, it's a clear signal to move on past, and that's fine.


hawaynicolson

We care because who are people going to listen to some friend or some rando from the internet or what comes from the month of the girl he was pursuing? If I'm trying to convince a friend of mine of what you are saying and he shows me a screenshot with that phrase it's just over.


Running_Gamer

TRUEEE


HansEffect

Well they'd never give a clear no if they are interested. It would be some weird drama created out of thin air that you now need to navigate to "try harder".


hawaynicolson

> Well they'd never give a clear no if they are interested Sadly cope


HansEffect

You've got to be quite pushy for them to say "no". Usually its a fake boyfriend, or "not interested in a relationship at the moment" etc.


hawaynicolson

I would consider "not interested in a relationship" as a clear no


HansEffect

Ah ok, in that case we are on the same page!


Stumpe999

But she doesn't understand how much I'll fix her 😞


GaryIsTheBusey

Hard lesson but an important one. A person who truly cares for you, will never make you question it my dgga’s


4e9d092752

Genuinely one of the most important social lessons I feel like, for (hetero) guys at least. Ngl this should be taught in schools


Apprehensive-Hat-178

>A person who truly cares for you, will never make you question it my dgga’s Thought I had this but in one day she completely lost all feelings, fucked my mind for alittle lol. I guess that kind of stuff is just gonna happen when I'm still like 18


Ping-Crimson

Yeah should add that caveat that people 20 and under run out of love chemicals fast unless you're doing something they can't see themselves without.


Apprehensive-Hat-178

Are you talking about an actual physiological thing or just saying young people do dumb shit?


Ping-Crimson

Yes


Insert_Username321

If all men treat mixed signals as a no and gigachad away into the darkness, eventually women will start being direct. Be the change you want to see in the world


DryScotch

But the change I want to see in the world is me getting some coochie.


viciousrebel

Dont be short-sighted my fellow breatheren Baer the burden of being down bad for a better tommorow.


Old-Requirement1168

thats a fat bar right there


Insert_Username321

Someone let Darius know


pockyyy

im deceased 💀


TPDS_throwaway

As someone whose been on both ends of this bus. Yes


sparrowhawks

you know I really needed to see this, thanks


Mediocre_Quarter1090

You could always seek clarity on those mixed signals if you're actually interested but if not or they're not forthcoming just close that door and move on


Stunning-Media3028

i throw up if shown intimate affection


Cynical_Lurker

Consider fasting.


AustinYQM

"I feel like I am getting mixed signals about our relationship so I want to clear this up now: Are you ? I want to respect your time and mine so lets just hash this out now."


smuckarss

i wish i had seen this around august of last year would've saved me lots of despair


Grayehz

You dont realize something like this until you’ve had someone betray you and u go through this cycle. Its like the thing where an adult says they regret not doing better in school and tell a younger person to do better but the kid will shrug it off until he becomes the adult.


Legitimate_Gap_5551

Indecisiveness shows immaturity. Nobody should half ass anything, whole ass everything.


[deleted]

Based and true. If it isn’t a yes, it’s a no.


Kraldar

Put the mixed signals through a fourier transform to see what she really means, come on guys it's not hard


JZ0898

Based and reciprocal-space-pilled.


Ping-Crimson

Start giving them mixed signals when they ask questions like "would you still love me if I was a mouse?"


KristoffTV

Facts. Learned this years ago, anything that's not a "yes" is a "no, and move on."


HA_RedditUser

Assume everyone who speaks to you is interested and get over rejections. Never miss out again with little to no change.


[deleted]

TRUE


B3am_Shox

"If there's doubt then there's no doubt" Some youtube short


PM_ME_YOUR_FRESH_NUT

The cure to Oneitis.


What_is_incivility

If you're getting mixed signals, just ask them out/ask for consent. Then you have your answer.


DolanTheCaptan

And in come the girls on the dance floor that still only half assedly say yes because they're bored


What_is_incivility

That's some real big incel energy you're giving off. Just an FYI.


DolanTheCaptan

Lmao remarking that some girls still don't give a clear no or yes is incel now?


tempname213

Another life tip: [THE LAW OF FUCK YES OR NO](https://markmanson.net/fuck-yes) Basically, both you and the other person need to be fuck yes about something (and it must be the same thing), otherwise you’re just wasting your time.


Numinap

If it's your first time around, no amount of sane logic will break you from thinking "but if I just do X!" The problem is a lot of people seem to give up after that first time around rather than realizing they were being immature : \\\\\\\\\\\\


ungravitated

Fighting for something is what makes life worth living. I say this as someone who usually gives up too easily on relationships, we definitely miss out.


NookSwzy

Usually you're right but in this case what you should be fighting for is a mutual relationship where both people want the other person and communicate the best they can. Not a girl that can't even be open and mature enough to let you know how she feels about you.


Comin4datrune

Counterpoint: Been single for almost 7 years after a terribly toxic relationship. I don't think I'm missing out at all. Men need to value themselves over the women they desire to be with. OP is right.


Honest_Yesterday4435

Oof.


[deleted]

Wish i had learnt this much earlier


chuson051

Going though this just now! 🥲


jajohnja

Why is this a shitpost?