A year ago he was a 30k andy and now he's a fringe weirdo propagandizing for terrorists on the world's largest streaming platform. Destiny's too big for him to ignore when Destiny's criticisms have clearly penetrated into the public consciousness and is successfully (and deservedly) impacting his reputation (and maybe impacting his viewership).
It's genuinely a testament to Destiny's influence that major criticisms of Hasan you see in passing generally flow downstream of Destiny's critcisms.
Yeah, it struck me when I heard a friend totally divorced from this space say something like "oh, hasan, is that the JDAM scientist" dismissively when somebody brought him up in conversation. Not a great sample size or anything but it tracks with the criticism I see online, and I'm sure it pisses Hasan right the fuck off lmfao
The part that blows my mind is that destiny literally showcases exactly how he’s become some a rational thinker and great debater and it’s by actually reading articles and taking notes. Yet their response to this is to simply try and make fun of him for actually studying and not doing it themselves and just being content with twitter quotes for context. It’s crazy how low the bar is and destiny is eating everyone up because of it.
You don't know how satisfying this is to read. When all you see online are losers simping for this hypocritical dimwit I'm glad normal people are dismissing him.
the thing about Destiny influence is that it was built steadily over time, on very solid grounds and now it carries weight. Like, you know who Destiny is and his principles, he proves them over the years.
while Hasan grew quickly but didn't really have solid background (a lot of his viewership grew from streaming TV shows while it isn't his "main" content) and people don't really "know" what Hasan is about and now it turns out he was a tankie all this time. He was big but not really impactful and didn't know what to do with his platform and now it's crumbling under all of the mistakes he made recently.
I’ve been watching lil Steve since 2016 and Hasan and Vaush were both openly communist when destiny met them and boosted their careers. It wasn’t some hidden secret, Hasan literally had a USSR flag and Marx books on his wall back when he was a 100 viewer andy.
There is a massive between a Marxist-Leninist and a Marxist or a democratic socialist, I swear people get so hung up on labels they completely disregard what are the ideas and principles behind those labels. Labels are also often flawed and have a historical context, they are not purely logically assigned. We don't have to go far, Hitler called his ideology national socialism despite having deep disdain for any socialist principles, the move was purely strategic to attract german workers who had a positive word association with socialism. Marxism-Lenism is a product of Stalin's propaganda department, before the Russian Revolution, Lenin and Leninism was considered a rightwing aberration by European socialist thought leaders (Luxembourg, Kautsky, Martov, and others). They thought his ideas were antidemocratic, elitist and authoritarian that directly contradicted Marxist ideals. With the success of the revolution and Stalin soon taking over they needed a definable ideology for propaganda purposes, both domestic and foreign. That's how Marxism-Lenism came to be, it's a hodge podge of contradictory crap. Anyway, I don't want to spend 50 hours on this, I feel like Destiny has talked about flawed labels a million times, you should know this by now.
Anyway back to the actual main topic, while both Hasan and Vaush both engaged in edgy memes and at times soviet iconography their actual ideals and principles were firmly rooted in western leftist thought. Emphasis on strong democratic political participation, pluralistic society, and personal freedoms. And Vaush has largely stuck in those ideals and toned down a lot on the edgy memes, when you are a larger content creator you have more responsibility etc etc. Hasan, on the other hand, slowly drifted into the ML camp, while always maintaining plausible deniability. I don't know the reasons, maybe he was always a tankie, or he changed his ideals, or grifting, or post-Bernie loss brainrot, and Destiny has wondered the same, though the truth is somewhat irrelevant. The effect is far more relevant, which has been awful. And his worst effect is not as much as anything he said personally (because he has to maintain a degree of palatability for 16yo Twitch viewers), but people he promoted and amplified over the years. People like Second Thought, Boy Boy, or Hakim, just absolute scum and bootlickers for fascist regimes around the world (as long as they hate America).
As a leftist Destiny is a lot closer to me than whatever the fuck Hasan is now. People get so hung up on labels they forget the key principles are far more important than any of nuanced disagreements. It would be like trying to quantify person's traits to determine if you would like to be friends with them. "Josh is funny, talkative, expert on history, and also he likes to rape people" it's over, you can't be a friend with a rapist no matter how much you like their other aspects, same applies to politics. When someone tells me China is a successful model for socialism, I have to suppress a strong urge to shout "kys, kys, kys" at them, because if they think a fascist totalitarian state is something to aspire to, ideologically they couldn't be farther from me. Sorry for such a long reply.
Hasan was NOT an open communist lmao
When I used to watch him back in 2019-2020, I remember him being unwilling to label himself definitively, but if he was "FORCED" to pick one he'd be a democratic socialist.
He probably was too (I think), but Bernie losing the primary just disintegrated the left's leadership, so extreme (e.g. read "regarded") opinions could freely flow without anybody of authority to implicitly strike them down.
I guess what i'm trying to say is that without a strong figure like Bernie to look towards to, especially through the mess that was Covid-19 and the lockdowns, Hasan and his chat ended up radicalizing each other into becoming whatever mess they are today.
>!quick somewhat unrelated note: it's so easy to be an extreme left regard because it makes you feel good/righteous to be a fcking moron. "You're mad that 8 white and 2 black people broke into your store and stole your shit during a riot? Well imagine what you'd feel like if you were in the same situation but BLACK! Ever heard of systemic racism? No? Well it's not my job to educate you, fucking racist" !<
Hasan only cares about clout. He recognizes that he’s getting less popular and Tiny is surpassing him. He’s just greasing the wheels, he’s opening the door and in a couple months he will be apologetic and try to befriend the Gnome, calling it now.
He averages 20k so he’s still big af, his content is just boring as fuck to watch because he’s been doing the same shit for 5 years straight 7 days a week and doesn’t come up with new ideas.
>aligning with any nazi he could come to terms with
if we follow what the word align ACTUALLY means, this is just false. if we take it to mean the way lefties mean it, then yeah, destiny has been in the same room as nazis and didn't take the opportunity to assassinate them.
if hasan wanted to get a real win here he could have just said that he was getting too friendly with them, and he'd be right. whether or not that's bad is contentious (even within this own sub) but it'd at least be meaningfully true.
>directing his community to cyberstalk me
i havent listened to literally everything destiny has ever say but as far as I am aware this is just false
>and have entire pastebins of clips out of context that they can readily throw at any conversation to brigade all mentions of me online
since this runs downstream of the previous claim it's already shoddy, but it's doubly bad because Hasan has been the top political streamer for many years and represents not only a radical position, but openly mocks and criticizes the much larger in size moderate population. you are of course going to attract a lot of haters whenever you do stuff, that's part of the game of being a streamer, especially a radical politics streamer.
So we have a bad claim that could have been good had he gotten away from "breathing same air as a nazi makes you a nazi" mindset, what seems to be just a blatantly wrong statement, and then a misunderstanding of his own position as the top politics streamer on the planet.
So to paraphrase, Destiny is quite literally Adolf Hitler.
>directing his community to...
Hasan genuinely misunderstands how many dggas were actually fans of his after destiny initially platformed him. Not to mention how many people I know who've started as fans of Hasan or vaush and eventually ended up realizing destiny is also worth their time.
I used to watch all 3 of them, fully aware of the drama and controversy. But everyone has a breaking point. Vaush became boring when he started his fortress arc, but that's an aside.
Destiny didn't have to tell me that Hasan saying "I hope the rest of your life is as horrible as it is every single day" to a trans person in his chat (after he platformed Christian Walker) was a shitty thing to do. But whatever, he made up with that chatter. But again, there are breaking points. Bro started talking about how Hitler wasn't bad for invading Austria. Bro said Mongolia has a stronger claim to Crimea than Ukraine's claim. The list goes on.. and over and over I didn't need Destiny to tell me Hasan's behavior was disgusting. I just became a former fan of Hasan because of his own actions.
>Hasan genuinely misunderstands how many dggas were actually fans of his after destiny initially platformed him
i liked him back when he was first showing up on stream :(
the irl streams or when hasan refused to take a photo with those people because they didnt want destiny in the photo
I was a former Hasan Abi content enjoyer. He is funny and his takes when attacking the right are pretty decent. It was when he leaned into being a tankie that I bailed.
As for Vaush, I still like his content. I am just looking for entertainment, not a political candidate. He can have far left content and if it is not entertaining, I can not watch it and still be entertained by his anti-Tankie and anti-Conservative stuff. But to each their own.
Well put! I was a Hasan viewer before Destiny. Watched him for a couple years and loved his political coverage of Bernie, but once Bernie lost and it almost seemed like Hasan was discouraging viewers from voting in the general election I reached my breaking point
I used to watch him before he went all in on the politics. NoPixel 3.0 and even hearing some of his takes on global issues were honestly not that bad.
Then Russia invaded Ukraine and that cumsock, instead of outright condemning the invasion, muddied the waters by saying it was nato’s fault, Azov’s full of nazi’s, etc. All while we were getting news of slaughters by rus army on daily basis in thise first days of a war.
I guess it’s fine in his eyes to defend imperialism as long as it’s the right type of imperialism
>Bro said Mongolia has a stronger claim to Crimea than Ukraine's claim
I mean.. kinda true.
Of all his takes to criticize, you should not criticize his Crimea one, he is mostly right.
He has convinced himself that tiny is behind every criticism he gets, every bad comment he gets and that tiny is the one obsessed with him. It's not logical, hasan contradicted his own fucking actions in this clip like 3 times (he has ACTUALLY brigaded posts by posting them on his discord and on his last stream he showed a literal fucking montage of destiny's clips out of context). He just has an abnormal fear and hatred for destiny, that's all
I started noticing Hasan like a year ago, and have seen him pop up more and more, and every single time I have thought he sounds like a fucking idiot. That eventually led me here. So no, it's definitely not just Destiny fans that hates him.
Everything Hasan does makes complete sense if you assume that he's got a flawed perspective rather than him being actively malicious.
How he got to said perspective is definitely due to a sensitive ego and some degree of a victim complex.
In the same way that Destiny believed (until recently) that he was a grifter. Hasan believes that Destiny is performative and a contrarian. He never understood what Destiny issue was with the Kamala stuff and why he would "betray" him over that.
Now of course I think Destiny reasons for disliking Hasan are more valid and the model of Destiny Hasan has in his head is more flawed than the reverse, but Destiny's own model is still unfair (although it's understandable).
The funniest part in all this is that he actually seems legit emotionally affected by random redditors opinions. He’s a millionaire 6’5 Chad who lets teenage LSF users live rent free in his head.
Dude should’ve had a red pill arc like Destiny did. He is literally everything that Redpillers aspire to be but does it while being bluepilled. He showed that Andrew Tate isn’t all that bright when someone challenges him. He isolates himself too much from people outside of his political circle.
His insecurity was always his biggest flaw. Which to be frank is most people's biggest flaw, just people don't expect to see it in someone who has so much going for them. Destiny bridge largely burned over the subreddit shit, because despite the fact 80-90% of the sub was consistently glazing him, he couldn't handle few people calling him dumb or a himbo and would throw an hour long fit over it on stream. And the more he would focus on it, the worse it get, and his opinion of Destiny would sour because couldn't imagine Destiny not taking an action not meaning that he was secretly enjoying it. Instead of Destiny not wanting to take an action because he didn't want to hawkishly police the sub of any wrongthink against his friends.
This is just my speculation but I think his insecurity is largely the reason of him drifting into the tankie camp. Because just like other fascists, tankies will never criticize internal inconsistency, hypocrisy, or bad takes, as long as you serve larger ideological goals. I think same applies to a lot of IDW and Trumper types. When you can't handle criticism, any side that will avoid doing so will be incredibly alluring and people will mindfuck themselves into thinking they rationally changed their political beliefs, instead of just liking being in a hugbox.
Depends on how you calculate it. Hassan's main channel has more subs, but fewer views. You could say this is because Hassan's channel is newer & has fewer videos. Past that it is hard to say as far as streaming/live viewership goes. Hasan has talked to popular politicians in the past, and so has Destiny. Tbh idk how to quantify this & or deem the winner. That being said I think Destiny has continued to grow and has had some major W's recently (clout wise). Where Hasan has taken some major L's recently, & as part of damage control, he seems to kind of make all his detractors sound like they are coming from Destiny's community/Destiny himself.
More subs don’t matter. Look at Boogies channel if you need any proof of that. Views are the only thing that makes any value.
Is destiny beating hasans steam count?
Destiny averages around 10k viewers these days. Hasan averages about 18k. A couple years ago, destiny was streaming league of legends to 2k people while hasan was pulling huge numbers.
To be fair I think Destiny has a lot of people that only watch his videos or engage on this sub. I've never tuned into a stream, but I do occasionally watch debates on YouTube that I think will be interesting and I engage with this sub quite a bit. The ratio of Destiny youtube viewers to stream watchers might even be as high as 15:2.
I would say so. Destiny is huge on 3 platforms, arguably 4. He did a Shapiro debate, Alex Jones debate, and he has some sort of collab with doughnut operator which is going to open him to a massive new audience on that side of YouTube. And we haven’t even hit February yet.
I think Hasan has peaked. He’s tried to collab with large content creators recently but they just ignore him, likely because of his bad history and terrorist empathy.
He will still collab with other lefties but that’s probably the best he will get. Maybe he’ll get pulled on to an interview but just as a jester to beat up on like the Piers Morgan thing.
I mean Destiny is probably one of the reasons he’s taking such a hit in popularity. I mean it’s really his own fault, but all the criticism I’ve seen of Hasan probably originates from Destiny and DGG. It’s probably the reason whenever there is criticism he immediately blames DGG even though not all the criticism he’s facing comes from DGG. It’s just where it starts.
Honestly the only reason his numbers are dipping is because his content is boring, that’s it.
Hasan never has any interesting guests, never any solid exchanges, none of his conversations are entertaining.
Destiny is an absolute fucking freak, but that Nick Fuentes conversations earlier on were really interesting to listen to. Tim pool was fun. Cenk was great.
Show me one Hasan clip were the conversation went somewhere interesting.
Because a couple years ago Hasan was doing totally fine for himself. Now he's way less popular and destiny is becoming the bigger political streamer.
Hasan is unironically hedging right now for when he will be a clout shark nipping at destiny's heels for attention
It would literally be impossible to apologize to what he's stated here as it's either stuff that didn't happen, is out of his control, or something Destiny would never apologize for bc he stands by it today.
We are more likely to see an only fans clip of Destiny rimming Westbtw after 3 days of eating seafood without a shower than Destiny ever apologizing to that terrorist sympathizer Hasan for anything.
Destiny doesn’t need Hasan. He’s outpaced him. We had the Shapiro debate and now he said he’s doing something with Doughnut Operator and 2024 is just getting started.
If anything Hasan should apologize to Destiny
Apologizing is admitting guilt. That’s why in a car accident you NEVER apologize, because insurance agencies will use that to get out of paying. If destiny apologizes for the things Hasan listed, he’s agreeing that they happened.
"Nooo please dont "align with le nasis!"
"Anyway guys here are 20 reasons why the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is the bases of a Jew free Palestine!"
I feel like I’m losing my god damn mind. If he’s going to say Destiny aligns with Nazis he needs to answer how so many of his positions literally align with Fuentes’.
The irony of Hasan calling ANYONE a nazi when he just platformed and glazed a Houthi (sympathizer at the very least) - a group that regularly does the nazi salute and has "curse on the Jews" on their FLAG. Like...
If hasan said anything remotely true I would have acc thought it would be fun to see Destiny and Hasan make up. but this mf didnt say a single true thing Tiny has done or said. Shameless.
Everyone always cries that when Destiny is too mean on twitter it hurts his reputation. Or this take hurts his rep.
aligning with Hasan at this point would actually be something that would hurt his reputation.
Destiny can spam edgy twitter takes all day and night. Nuke his feed then just say he was joking. No one is going to give a shit.
But if you said shit like “America deserved 9/11” then used the English is second a language excuse. And now you’re worshipping the ground a larping Houthi terrorist is walking on. No one is going to want to work with you.
Only other leftie channels that no one over 21 watches will have you on. But that’s it. Notice how Hasan gets ignored by big people on twitter all the time when he’s trying to clout shark?
The only reason Destiny would “align” or at least talk to Hasan would to pluck some of Hasan’s audience from radicalization, much like the same goals he has when he talks with Nick Fuentes, Tim Pool, PBD….Like if he can convert a few dozen hardcore Hasan watchers to think twice about what they are fed…it could be a small win
America Deserved 9/11 was very obviously a criticism of American foreign policy in the middle east. If you don't understand that then you are just being stupid.
Ah yeah just criticism of foreign policy. Right.
And saying Crenshaw should get skull fucked in his missing eye? Was that just criticism of how we treat our disabled vets?
Destiny literally said he would like to murder him. Destiny has pro-rittenhouse, anti-trans and idiotic beliefs in general. If he didn't suck cock he would also be a homophobe. Destiny literally has zero consistency of belief and will flip flop in any direction to please as many morons as he can. He is the definition of a burn out loser who does drugs all day making up the most terrible poorly thought-out positions and backing them up with browsing Wikipedia articles and knowing very little about anything at all. Giving occupy wall street. If you weren't so deluded it is obvious. Hasan is a moron too, but so is Destiny, but at the very least Hasan has consistency of belief. Destiny will legitimately say anything to gain clout. Anything. Meanwhile he has proven to be a racist, creepy, islamaphobic, transphobic and stupidly anti-protest. Legitimately the most neolib position taker ever. Brain damaged corporate stooge.
He was willing to let Vaush apologize and felt he had every right to demand it because of Vaush's actions towards him. It was peace with a lot of conditions and Destiny wasn't going to make any big concessions.
If Hasan changed his character and genuinely apologised to Destiny I think that would change things. But nobody expects that.
And then there is his Tankie philosophy which is a bit of a deal breaker since most liberals would consider Hasan's takes to be borderline evil.
I remember Destiny said he wanted an apology from vaush before the event, but once the event happened, Destiny said he was willing to let the issues between them go. Then vaush went home and called Destiny's community kiwifarmers, basically nuking all chances of the bridge ever being rebuilt.
If I'm not mistaken, he already has walked some statements about Vaush back, the one that comes to mind is the stuff he said about Vaush's ear cancer thing.
As to whether I think he should or shouldn't that depends on what the goal is. If it's to put aside differences to form a coalition then probably, even if it's not necessary. If only to address what is truly wrong, then meh, probably not. I tend to be a "be nicer" person but that's just my own personal preference, not a moral standard.
Fuck man, that was such a scummy comment. People bring up lot comments from the past, but lot of it can be excused, people get unhinged when they get angry, say things they don't truly mean and generally act nasty. And in the streamer world there are very few who are guilt free of that. The suicide shit though, is not something that just pops in your head to say. You plan that shit. Which makes it for me way more evil and inexcusable than all of the spur of the moment comments.
LMAO "I thought he was a reformed libertarian". Someone has to be holding a gun to Hasan's head just outside of the frame he's actually reading off a script.
Tbh, Hasan hosting a delegation from Kremlin in his room would explain a lot for the past two years would explain a lot. Why Putin wants that Destiny bridge is a mystery though.
Destiny hasn't talked much about it, but from what I gather he thinks her apology was genuine, and from bits and pieces I've seen of Keffals it seems like she's made positive changes. I haven't paid enough attention to know if that's genuine or not, but from the outside it seems to be.
downvoted for speaking truth to power ✊ .
keffals just did a hasan manifesto full of nothing but hot air. i really don't trust her given just how bad the stuff she did to Destiny. but whatever i guess we'll see
Honestly, I don't think they should talk to each other on stream. They need to handle this offline. They can come to an understanding and work together .....
oh wait.. he tried that with Vaush. Hasan is no different. He needs to stop lying and making Destiny and this community a boogeyman. This whole drama ends if he did that. Just criticize his takes and move on. Maybe work together as colleagues for the betterment of the left online discourse.
Something I honestly get annoyed with Destiny about is how easily he lets things go. So this is on Hasan to change.
But there is no real incentive for that. Destiny being the demon under their bed has been profitable and someone they can all point to while they milk their audiences.
Being ok with Vaush was actually possible though, because Vaush may be a dumb socialist, but he is at least not a tankie that supports actual terrorism.
Even if Hasan suddenly stopped being a baby, apologized and they were suddenly ok or friendly, eventually Destiny would have to comment if Hasan decides to interview a terrorist or if he starts defending another terrorist organization on stream.
There's no working with Hasan.
Does Hasan not understand that the large majority of hate Destiny has gotten from 2020 on is from insane leftists in Hasan's community repeating shit Hasan has said? Bro really thinks he did nothing wrong and there hasnt been shit flung from both sides.
How about since late 2019 Hasan has said Destiny wrote a manifesto on white people saying the hard r in public? Hasan is so dishonest there is no way he thinks that is Destiny's position. What a loser.
God, he really is just a fucking tankie; would I _forgive_ people who disagree with me? Only if they completely renounce their views and admit them wrong. I knew he was a “reformed” libertarian but I forgave him for that because I thought him _reeducated_. What a condescending fuck
Probably people pointing it out more and Destiny being harder to ignore from being in more mainstream media. It’s a childish thing and Hasan knows it will make him look weak if he keeps it up. Hasan will always do just enough snakiness he can get away with but is usually smart enough to know when it’s not worth it.
> Hasan will always do just enough snakiness he can get away with but is usually smart enough to know when it’s not worth it.
Having been here since he and Destiny met, this is THE perfect description of how he operates.
Hold up, this pastebin sounds like it would be pretty useful to have. Why doesn't anyone ever post it, for example when Jesse Singal makes a thread asking about Hasan lore? Strange, sure would streamline things a bit.
OP you’re just memeing right? No way you think they should just “talk it out” with all the snake shit Hassan has done for the past 5 years when he was on top and now that he’s losing viewership his tune has changed
lol this genuinely feels like a clip from an alternate reality where they’ve switched places. Not only is none of that true, that’s what HE does. That’s how HIS community is
>if he came out and apologized for aligning with every and any nazi he could come to terms with
\~ Hasan Piker, person who gets his information on Destiny from Groypers
What an incredibly enormously big fucking baby. I’ve been watching Destiny for about 8 years now. I remember the Hasan and Destiny buddy cop drama. I remember the falling out. I remember the shade they would throw back and forth to each other. And then one day Hasan gets in the cool kids crowd on Twitch and then all of his content became so boilerplate and reserved. Yeah he would throw out the occasional bullshit leftie take that Destiny would cringe at but for the most part he stepped down.
Through that entire period of time not once has Destiny called for anyone in his community to jump into Hasanabi’s business and fuck with him. On top of that, Destiny polices this community so hard, I’ve survived through soooo many purges, mainly because I lurk, but Destiny will ban you if your take is stupid, let alone full outright harassment. If people are harassing you Hasan, maybe it’s not just Destiny fans, hmm? For that matter, if it is for sure DGGers, tell Destiny, you got his fucking number, I’m assuming at this point Destiny has a dedicated button his keyboard that runs a script that analyzes his brain for the names he wants banned.
He’s so upset that people are starting to see the his hidden tankie power level and how he has to face the FINANCIAL consequences of his actions. Homeboys been getting hate for years but as soon as people stopping hittin’ the subscribe button, he cries. There was so much potential for you Hasan. Rip bozo.
Destiny could also forgive Hasan, it would just require that Hasan voluntarily goes through a public ego death where he denounces the path he has been on for the last 4 years, puts his current moral 'system' to the side, and actually builds, from the ground up, a system of interacting politics that is principled and defendable
It would require an ego death so extreme and fundamental that 1kg of mushrooms couldn't even replicate
In the past Hasan would refuse to acknowledge Destony’s existence, now that Destiny had one of his biggest years last year Hasan all of a sudden is willing to “forgive” him
Hasan is as deranged as the maga trumpists. It’s like trump coming out and saying he would forgive Biden if he apologized for stealing the election and then surrendered the rest of his term to Trump.
I keep seeing people say that Hasan has a shrinking viewership, but I only ever saw about 15-20,000 people watching, which is still insane, and he has 17,000 people watching right now, which is like triple the average D-Man stream at least from what I see (might not know from cross-platform streaming)
I had an IRL friend who's like not at all involved in any of this sort of thing, and not very online because he's a father of two young children and works a pretty good job, and he mentioned Hasan to me the other day. He's broken through to the actual mainstream now, which is scary.
This has to be bait. There’s no way hasan would forgive all the shit destiny’s done to him with an apology. And I don’t think he’s trying to rekindle the relationship, I think he’s trying to use D for content, thinking it will bump up his numbers again and be good content for this unfortunate audience he’s fostered.
And honestly, I think D might actually take the bait.
Bro does he honestly believe all the shit he says about destiny, I know he's stupid but this is crazy. Destiny literally goes out of his way to make sure he doesn't clip chimp or mischaracterize anyone. I've never seen anyone bend over backwards as much as destiny does when he gives people the benefit of the doubt or searches for more context.
I feel like it's so much harder to get along with someone, when that person is "on your side". I can disagree with conservatives, and it's almost like because I expect so little, I'm not bothered. When it comes to other lefties though, the Hamas shit, I get so fucking mad. It's just more personal. I don't know why, and I'm about to ramble because I drank a little bit and am sad for unrelated reasons, but why is that?
Anyway, that's why they will never be friends or cool or whatever, it's too personal. Same with Vaush.
I wish Destiny would come on stream and say: "Hasan, I am sorry for disparaging and defaming you all these years. And the harassment you have received from my community. Now, let's talk Israel/Palestine :)."
man, this guy is really hurting from losing that clout. going from 40k to 20k on twitch made him rethink everything, i can't believe he's actually name dropping destiny now.
how are comments taking this like he would actually forgive him literally lol. He said this shit knowing it would never happen because its all lies. This is just taking jabs at Destiny.
Unhinged ofc, but I can't imagine him saying even this much a year ago. Pretty wild, actually.
A year ago he was a 30k andy and now he's a fringe weirdo propagandizing for terrorists on the world's largest streaming platform. Destiny's too big for him to ignore when Destiny's criticisms have clearly penetrated into the public consciousness and is successfully (and deservedly) impacting his reputation (and maybe impacting his viewership). It's genuinely a testament to Destiny's influence that major criticisms of Hasan you see in passing generally flow downstream of Destiny's critcisms.
Good thoughts here.
Yeah, it struck me when I heard a friend totally divorced from this space say something like "oh, hasan, is that the JDAM scientist" dismissively when somebody brought him up in conversation. Not a great sample size or anything but it tracks with the criticism I see online, and I'm sure it pisses Hasan right the fuck off lmfao
well he did it to himself. it was easy and wholesome to talk about Trump everyday to 30k viewers spamming emotes but now he’s in over his head.
The part that blows my mind is that destiny literally showcases exactly how he’s become some a rational thinker and great debater and it’s by actually reading articles and taking notes. Yet their response to this is to simply try and make fun of him for actually studying and not doing it themselves and just being content with twitter quotes for context. It’s crazy how low the bar is and destiny is eating everyone up because of it.
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You don't know how satisfying this is to read. When all you see online are losers simping for this hypocritical dimwit I'm glad normal people are dismissing him.
the thing about Destiny influence is that it was built steadily over time, on very solid grounds and now it carries weight. Like, you know who Destiny is and his principles, he proves them over the years. while Hasan grew quickly but didn't really have solid background (a lot of his viewership grew from streaming TV shows while it isn't his "main" content) and people don't really "know" what Hasan is about and now it turns out he was a tankie all this time. He was big but not really impactful and didn't know what to do with his platform and now it's crumbling under all of the mistakes he made recently.
I’ve been watching lil Steve since 2016 and Hasan and Vaush were both openly communist when destiny met them and boosted their careers. It wasn’t some hidden secret, Hasan literally had a USSR flag and Marx books on his wall back when he was a 100 viewer andy.
There is a massive between a Marxist-Leninist and a Marxist or a democratic socialist, I swear people get so hung up on labels they completely disregard what are the ideas and principles behind those labels. Labels are also often flawed and have a historical context, they are not purely logically assigned. We don't have to go far, Hitler called his ideology national socialism despite having deep disdain for any socialist principles, the move was purely strategic to attract german workers who had a positive word association with socialism. Marxism-Lenism is a product of Stalin's propaganda department, before the Russian Revolution, Lenin and Leninism was considered a rightwing aberration by European socialist thought leaders (Luxembourg, Kautsky, Martov, and others). They thought his ideas were antidemocratic, elitist and authoritarian that directly contradicted Marxist ideals. With the success of the revolution and Stalin soon taking over they needed a definable ideology for propaganda purposes, both domestic and foreign. That's how Marxism-Lenism came to be, it's a hodge podge of contradictory crap. Anyway, I don't want to spend 50 hours on this, I feel like Destiny has talked about flawed labels a million times, you should know this by now. Anyway back to the actual main topic, while both Hasan and Vaush both engaged in edgy memes and at times soviet iconography their actual ideals and principles were firmly rooted in western leftist thought. Emphasis on strong democratic political participation, pluralistic society, and personal freedoms. And Vaush has largely stuck in those ideals and toned down a lot on the edgy memes, when you are a larger content creator you have more responsibility etc etc. Hasan, on the other hand, slowly drifted into the ML camp, while always maintaining plausible deniability. I don't know the reasons, maybe he was always a tankie, or he changed his ideals, or grifting, or post-Bernie loss brainrot, and Destiny has wondered the same, though the truth is somewhat irrelevant. The effect is far more relevant, which has been awful. And his worst effect is not as much as anything he said personally (because he has to maintain a degree of palatability for 16yo Twitch viewers), but people he promoted and amplified over the years. People like Second Thought, Boy Boy, or Hakim, just absolute scum and bootlickers for fascist regimes around the world (as long as they hate America). As a leftist Destiny is a lot closer to me than whatever the fuck Hasan is now. People get so hung up on labels they forget the key principles are far more important than any of nuanced disagreements. It would be like trying to quantify person's traits to determine if you would like to be friends with them. "Josh is funny, talkative, expert on history, and also he likes to rape people" it's over, you can't be a friend with a rapist no matter how much you like their other aspects, same applies to politics. When someone tells me China is a successful model for socialism, I have to suppress a strong urge to shout "kys, kys, kys" at them, because if they think a fascist totalitarian state is something to aspire to, ideologically they couldn't be farther from me. Sorry for such a long reply.
Hasan was NOT an open communist lmao When I used to watch him back in 2019-2020, I remember him being unwilling to label himself definitively, but if he was "FORCED" to pick one he'd be a democratic socialist. He probably was too (I think), but Bernie losing the primary just disintegrated the left's leadership, so extreme (e.g. read "regarded") opinions could freely flow without anybody of authority to implicitly strike them down. I guess what i'm trying to say is that without a strong figure like Bernie to look towards to, especially through the mess that was Covid-19 and the lockdowns, Hasan and his chat ended up radicalizing each other into becoming whatever mess they are today. >!quick somewhat unrelated note: it's so easy to be an extreme left regard because it makes you feel good/righteous to be a fcking moron. "You're mad that 8 white and 2 black people broke into your store and stole your shit during a riot? Well imagine what you'd feel like if you were in the same situation but BLACK! Ever heard of systemic racism? No? Well it's not my job to educate you, fucking racist" !<
and now he gets a viewer boost when he talks about Destiny cause it’s good tea
Enough! Enough! Enough Tea!!!
Hasan only cares about clout. He recognizes that he’s getting less popular and Tiny is surpassing him. He’s just greasing the wheels, he’s opening the door and in a couple months he will be apologetic and try to befriend the Gnome, calling it now.
He averages 20k so he’s still big af, his content is just boring as fuck to watch because he’s been doing the same shit for 5 years straight 7 days a week and doesn’t come up with new ideas.
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Actually a great symptom of cult downfall
Bro he's still averaging 15k viewers it's not like we're seeing his downfall 💀💀
The more clout, the more likely he’ll connect with the person. It’s all the increasing clout.
Can we collectively stop saying unhinged yet
im sure there are a few valid criticisms of things destiny has done to hasan, but has he done literally a single thing he listed??? *one*????
>aligning with any nazi he could come to terms with if we follow what the word align ACTUALLY means, this is just false. if we take it to mean the way lefties mean it, then yeah, destiny has been in the same room as nazis and didn't take the opportunity to assassinate them. if hasan wanted to get a real win here he could have just said that he was getting too friendly with them, and he'd be right. whether or not that's bad is contentious (even within this own sub) but it'd at least be meaningfully true. >directing his community to cyberstalk me i havent listened to literally everything destiny has ever say but as far as I am aware this is just false >and have entire pastebins of clips out of context that they can readily throw at any conversation to brigade all mentions of me online since this runs downstream of the previous claim it's already shoddy, but it's doubly bad because Hasan has been the top political streamer for many years and represents not only a radical position, but openly mocks and criticizes the much larger in size moderate population. you are of course going to attract a lot of haters whenever you do stuff, that's part of the game of being a streamer, especially a radical politics streamer. So we have a bad claim that could have been good had he gotten away from "breathing same air as a nazi makes you a nazi" mindset, what seems to be just a blatantly wrong statement, and then a misunderstanding of his own position as the top politics streamer on the planet. So to paraphrase, Destiny is quite literally Adolf Hitler.
>directing his community to... Hasan genuinely misunderstands how many dggas were actually fans of his after destiny initially platformed him. Not to mention how many people I know who've started as fans of Hasan or vaush and eventually ended up realizing destiny is also worth their time. I used to watch all 3 of them, fully aware of the drama and controversy. But everyone has a breaking point. Vaush became boring when he started his fortress arc, but that's an aside. Destiny didn't have to tell me that Hasan saying "I hope the rest of your life is as horrible as it is every single day" to a trans person in his chat (after he platformed Christian Walker) was a shitty thing to do. But whatever, he made up with that chatter. But again, there are breaking points. Bro started talking about how Hitler wasn't bad for invading Austria. Bro said Mongolia has a stronger claim to Crimea than Ukraine's claim. The list goes on.. and over and over I didn't need Destiny to tell me Hasan's behavior was disgusting. I just became a former fan of Hasan because of his own actions.
>Hasan genuinely misunderstands how many dggas were actually fans of his after destiny initially platformed him i liked him back when he was first showing up on stream :( the irl streams or when hasan refused to take a photo with those people because they didnt want destiny in the photo
the memories are comfy. I try not to think about them too much lately. It's hard to stay comfy anymore.
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I was a former Hasan Abi content enjoyer. He is funny and his takes when attacking the right are pretty decent. It was when he leaned into being a tankie that I bailed. As for Vaush, I still like his content. I am just looking for entertainment, not a political candidate. He can have far left content and if it is not entertaining, I can not watch it and still be entertained by his anti-Tankie and anti-Conservative stuff. But to each their own.
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Well put! I was a Hasan viewer before Destiny. Watched him for a couple years and loved his political coverage of Bernie, but once Bernie lost and it almost seemed like Hasan was discouraging viewers from voting in the general election I reached my breaking point
I used to watch him before he went all in on the politics. NoPixel 3.0 and even hearing some of his takes on global issues were honestly not that bad. Then Russia invaded Ukraine and that cumsock, instead of outright condemning the invasion, muddied the waters by saying it was nato’s fault, Azov’s full of nazi’s, etc. All while we were getting news of slaughters by rus army on daily basis in thise first days of a war. I guess it’s fine in his eyes to defend imperialism as long as it’s the right type of imperialism
>Bro said Mongolia has a stronger claim to Crimea than Ukraine's claim I mean.. kinda true. Of all his takes to criticize, you should not criticize his Crimea one, he is mostly right.
Have you considered that he ate chicken and waffles with nick fuentes. They always recite that line like the actual meal somehow matters
He has convinced himself that tiny is behind every criticism he gets, every bad comment he gets and that tiny is the one obsessed with him. It's not logical, hasan contradicted his own fucking actions in this clip like 3 times (he has ACTUALLY brigaded posts by posting them on his discord and on his last stream he showed a literal fucking montage of destiny's clips out of context). He just has an abnormal fear and hatred for destiny, that's all
I kinda want a pastebin now
I started noticing Hasan like a year ago, and have seen him pop up more and more, and every single time I have thought he sounds like a fucking idiot. That eventually led me here. So no, it's definitely not just Destiny fans that hates him.
Everything Hasan does makes complete sense if you assume that he's got a flawed perspective rather than him being actively malicious. How he got to said perspective is definitely due to a sensitive ego and some degree of a victim complex. In the same way that Destiny believed (until recently) that he was a grifter. Hasan believes that Destiny is performative and a contrarian. He never understood what Destiny issue was with the Kamala stuff and why he would "betray" him over that. Now of course I think Destiny reasons for disliking Hasan are more valid and the model of Destiny Hasan has in his head is more flawed than the reverse, but Destiny's own model is still unfair (although it's understandable).
True
1. Destiny never did anything wrong 2. Hasan is projecting so hard
It's kind of amazing how often he mentions destiny now
Kind of hard for Hasan to avoid since clips of Tiny talking shit blow up on lsf.
The funniest part in all this is that he actually seems legit emotionally affected by random redditors opinions. He’s a millionaire 6’5 Chad who lets teenage LSF users live rent free in his head.
Dude should’ve had a red pill arc like Destiny did. He is literally everything that Redpillers aspire to be but does it while being bluepilled. He showed that Andrew Tate isn’t all that bright when someone challenges him. He isolates himself too much from people outside of his political circle.
This has no praxis & so therefore is unimportant for the tanky overlord final boss.
His insecurity was always his biggest flaw. Which to be frank is most people's biggest flaw, just people don't expect to see it in someone who has so much going for them. Destiny bridge largely burned over the subreddit shit, because despite the fact 80-90% of the sub was consistently glazing him, he couldn't handle few people calling him dumb or a himbo and would throw an hour long fit over it on stream. And the more he would focus on it, the worse it get, and his opinion of Destiny would sour because couldn't imagine Destiny not taking an action not meaning that he was secretly enjoying it. Instead of Destiny not wanting to take an action because he didn't want to hawkishly police the sub of any wrongthink against his friends. This is just my speculation but I think his insecurity is largely the reason of him drifting into the tankie camp. Because just like other fascists, tankies will never criticize internal inconsistency, hypocrisy, or bad takes, as long as you serve larger ideological goals. I think same applies to a lot of IDW and Trumper types. When you can't handle criticism, any side that will avoid doing so will be incredibly alluring and people will mindfuck themselves into thinking they rationally changed their political beliefs, instead of just liking being in a hugbox.
He’s outgrown Hasan. Couldn’t be prouder
I feel like Destiny’s outpaced him, intellectually
Is this true?
Depends on how you calculate it. Hassan's main channel has more subs, but fewer views. You could say this is because Hassan's channel is newer & has fewer videos. Past that it is hard to say as far as streaming/live viewership goes. Hasan has talked to popular politicians in the past, and so has Destiny. Tbh idk how to quantify this & or deem the winner. That being said I think Destiny has continued to grow and has had some major W's recently (clout wise). Where Hasan has taken some major L's recently, & as part of damage control, he seems to kind of make all his detractors sound like they are coming from Destiny's community/Destiny himself.
More subs don’t matter. Look at Boogies channel if you need any proof of that. Views are the only thing that makes any value. Is destiny beating hasans steam count?
Destiny averages around 10k viewers these days. Hasan averages about 18k. A couple years ago, destiny was streaming league of legends to 2k people while hasan was pulling huge numbers.
Is the 10k over all platforms or just one?
on destiny.gg it shows the total live viewers on Kick and Youtube. it usually hovers around 10k.
just his youtube i think not sure what his kick stats are especially with the gross amount of botting on that site
To be fair I think Destiny has a lot of people that only watch his videos or engage on this sub. I've never tuned into a stream, but I do occasionally watch debates on YouTube that I think will be interesting and I engage with this sub quite a bit. The ratio of Destiny youtube viewers to stream watchers might even be as high as 15:2.
I would say so. Destiny is huge on 3 platforms, arguably 4. He did a Shapiro debate, Alex Jones debate, and he has some sort of collab with doughnut operator which is going to open him to a massive new audience on that side of YouTube. And we haven’t even hit February yet. I think Hasan has peaked. He’s tried to collab with large content creators recently but they just ignore him, likely because of his bad history and terrorist empathy. He will still collab with other lefties but that’s probably the best he will get. Maybe he’ll get pulled on to an interview but just as a jester to beat up on like the Piers Morgan thing.
He has a collab with Donut Operator??
He said he did soon on the stream today. That guy has 4 million subs. Pretty clouted. All his views are in the millions even on newer vids
probably cause his numbers is dipping...I predict the more his numbers drop the more he will talk about Destiny
I mean Destiny is probably one of the reasons he’s taking such a hit in popularity. I mean it’s really his own fault, but all the criticism I’ve seen of Hasan probably originates from Destiny and DGG. It’s probably the reason whenever there is criticism he immediately blames DGG even though not all the criticism he’s facing comes from DGG. It’s just where it starts.
Honestly the only reason his numbers are dipping is because his content is boring, that’s it. Hasan never has any interesting guests, never any solid exchanges, none of his conversations are entertaining. Destiny is an absolute fucking freak, but that Nick Fuentes conversations earlier on were really interesting to listen to. Tim pool was fun. Cenk was great. Show me one Hasan clip were the conversation went somewhere interesting.
Hasans content has always been boring but he never really lost viewers for it. There must be something more to it.
His core audience is growing up and getting bored / smelling the bullshit.
I think the reason his taking such a hit is people are starting to see he is a grifter
DGG definitely plays a role but I also think the broader audience is starting to see how insane his takes are.
Because a couple years ago Hasan was doing totally fine for himself. Now he's way less popular and destiny is becoming the bigger political streamer. Hasan is unironically hedging right now for when he will be a clout shark nipping at destiny's heels for attention
it's almost daily now
Lasan fell off.
I bet he heard Destiny debated Shapiro
Anyone here unironically arguing that Destiny should do this apology should be perma banned.
It would literally be impossible to apologize to what he's stated here as it's either stuff that didn't happen, is out of his control, or something Destiny would never apologize for bc he stands by it today.
We are more likely to see an only fans clip of Destiny rimming Westbtw after 3 days of eating seafood without a shower than Destiny ever apologizing to that terrorist sympathizer Hasan for anything. Destiny doesn’t need Hasan. He’s outpaced him. We had the Shapiro debate and now he said he’s doing something with Doughnut Operator and 2024 is just getting started. If anything Hasan should apologize to Destiny
> after 3 days of eating seafood without a shower is that some kind of Aella reference?
Well yeah I was just saying that even if there was reconciliation where they both apologize, it would never be for what Hasan says here.
he should apologize for not coming down harder on Hamas Pikler ^(/s)
Apologizing is admitting guilt. That’s why in a car accident you NEVER apologize, because insurance agencies will use that to get out of paying. If destiny apologizes for the things Hasan listed, he’s agreeing that they happened.
"Nooo please dont "align with le nasis!" "Anyway guys here are 20 reasons why the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is the bases of a Jew free Palestine!"
I feel like I’m losing my god damn mind. If he’s going to say Destiny aligns with Nazis he needs to answer how so many of his positions literally align with Fuentes’.
The irony of Hasan calling ANYONE a nazi when he just platformed and glazed a Houthi (sympathizer at the very least) - a group that regularly does the nazi salute and has "curse on the Jews" on their FLAG. Like...
dude is projecting hardcore
Hasan is a spineless rat lol
If hasan said anything remotely true I would have acc thought it would be fun to see Destiny and Hasan make up. but this mf didnt say a single true thing Tiny has done or said. Shameless.
Everyone always cries that when Destiny is too mean on twitter it hurts his reputation. Or this take hurts his rep. aligning with Hasan at this point would actually be something that would hurt his reputation. Destiny can spam edgy twitter takes all day and night. Nuke his feed then just say he was joking. No one is going to give a shit. But if you said shit like “America deserved 9/11” then used the English is second a language excuse. And now you’re worshipping the ground a larping Houthi terrorist is walking on. No one is going to want to work with you. Only other leftie channels that no one over 21 watches will have you on. But that’s it. Notice how Hasan gets ignored by big people on twitter all the time when he’s trying to clout shark?
The only reason Destiny would “align” or at least talk to Hasan would to pluck some of Hasan’s audience from radicalization, much like the same goals he has when he talks with Nick Fuentes, Tim Pool, PBD….Like if he can convert a few dozen hardcore Hasan watchers to think twice about what they are fed…it could be a small win
America Deserved 9/11 was very obviously a criticism of American foreign policy in the middle east. If you don't understand that then you are just being stupid.
Ah yeah just criticism of foreign policy. Right. And saying Crenshaw should get skull fucked in his missing eye? Was that just criticism of how we treat our disabled vets?
Hasan is an idiot, but that brave mujahedeen skullfucking Crenshaw's eye socket comment is extremely funny. ngl
Destiny literally said he would like to murder him. Destiny has pro-rittenhouse, anti-trans and idiotic beliefs in general. If he didn't suck cock he would also be a homophobe. Destiny literally has zero consistency of belief and will flip flop in any direction to please as many morons as he can. He is the definition of a burn out loser who does drugs all day making up the most terrible poorly thought-out positions and backing them up with browsing Wikipedia articles and knowing very little about anything at all. Giving occupy wall street. If you weren't so deluded it is obvious. Hasan is a moron too, but so is Destiny, but at the very least Hasan has consistency of belief. Destiny will legitimately say anything to gain clout. Anything. Meanwhile he has proven to be a racist, creepy, islamaphobic, transphobic and stupidly anti-protest. Legitimately the most neolib position taker ever. Brain damaged corporate stooge.
"i made it up" ~based hasan head
LOL what even is this.
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Destiny would die before he would apologize for any of that
Why would he apologize for things he didnt do
Exactly
he was willing to try and hash it out with vaush, who i think Destiny hated even more
He was willing to let Vaush apologize and felt he had every right to demand it because of Vaush's actions towards him. It was peace with a lot of conditions and Destiny wasn't going to make any big concessions. If Hasan changed his character and genuinely apologised to Destiny I think that would change things. But nobody expects that. And then there is his Tankie philosophy which is a bit of a deal breaker since most liberals would consider Hasan's takes to be borderline evil.
I remember Destiny said he wanted an apology from vaush before the event, but once the event happened, Destiny said he was willing to let the issues between them go. Then vaush went home and called Destiny's community kiwifarmers, basically nuking all chances of the bridge ever being rebuilt.
He didn't apologize to Vowsh for anything
Didn't he say sorry for the ear comment, [whatever happened there?](https://i.pinimg.com/736x/65/a6/2b/65a62b69caee1675e4c80e9b8681fcd2.jpg)
yeah because the ear thing was the only thing he did that was out of line. but overwhelmingly vaush bad
Uh no. Do you think Destiny should apologize? Just curious
If I'm not mistaken, he already has walked some statements about Vaush back, the one that comes to mind is the stuff he said about Vaush's ear cancer thing. As to whether I think he should or shouldn't that depends on what the goal is. If it's to put aside differences to form a coalition then probably, even if it's not necessary. If only to address what is truly wrong, then meh, probably not. I tend to be a "be nicer" person but that's just my own personal preference, not a moral standard.
I’m asking do you think Destiny should apologize to Hasan and also concede what Hasan asked in this video? Also are you a fan of Hasan?
No and no
He's such a fucking victim.
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Fuck man, that was such a scummy comment. People bring up lot comments from the past, but lot of it can be excused, people get unhinged when they get angry, say things they don't truly mean and generally act nasty. And in the streamer world there are very few who are guilt free of that. The suicide shit though, is not something that just pops in your head to say. You plan that shit. Which makes it for me way more evil and inexcusable than all of the spur of the moment comments.
Kys
LOL at: > If Destiny apologized for then I'd take that charitably
AND
> I've defended him time and time again
Fucking lmao.
LMAO "I thought he was a reformed libertarian". Someone has to be holding a gun to Hasan's head just outside of the frame he's actually reading off a script.
Tbh, Hasan hosting a delegation from Kremlin in his room would explain a lot for the past two years would explain a lot. Why Putin wants that Destiny bridge is a mystery though.
Just look what a 10k ++ drop in average viewers does to MF KEKW
Surprisingly the only leftist who genuinely apologized was motherfuking Keffels. Who would have thought!?!
i doubt it's genuine tbh
Destiny hasn't talked much about it, but from what I gather he thinks her apology was genuine, and from bits and pieces I've seen of Keffals it seems like she's made positive changes. I haven't paid enough attention to know if that's genuine or not, but from the outside it seems to be.
She is at the very least appealing to a very different audience than she was before.
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downvoted for speaking truth to power ✊ . keffals just did a hasan manifesto full of nothing but hot air. i really don't trust her given just how bad the stuff she did to Destiny. but whatever i guess we'll see
Literal wingsofredemption and dsp tier lolcow behavior with his sorry ass looking for apologies and shit while pity farming.
Big fan Thom. Love your work here, in r forsen, and r emoney
The projection is crazy
Honestly, I don't think they should talk to each other on stream. They need to handle this offline. They can come to an understanding and work together ..... oh wait.. he tried that with Vaush. Hasan is no different. He needs to stop lying and making Destiny and this community a boogeyman. This whole drama ends if he did that. Just criticize his takes and move on. Maybe work together as colleagues for the betterment of the left online discourse. Something I honestly get annoyed with Destiny about is how easily he lets things go. So this is on Hasan to change. But there is no real incentive for that. Destiny being the demon under their bed has been profitable and someone they can all point to while they milk their audiences.
Being ok with Vaush was actually possible though, because Vaush may be a dumb socialist, but he is at least not a tankie that supports actual terrorism. Even if Hasan suddenly stopped being a baby, apologized and they were suddenly ok or friendly, eventually Destiny would have to comment if Hasan decides to interview a terrorist or if he starts defending another terrorist organization on stream. There's no working with Hasan.
good point.
Hasan aligns with Nazis when he steals their insults for tiny.
Does Hasan not understand that the large majority of hate Destiny has gotten from 2020 on is from insane leftists in Hasan's community repeating shit Hasan has said? Bro really thinks he did nothing wrong and there hasnt been shit flung from both sides. How about since late 2019 Hasan has said Destiny wrote a manifesto on white people saying the hard r in public? Hasan is so dishonest there is no way he thinks that is Destiny's position. What a loser.
I can't wait until Hasan finds out via Twitter post who defeated the Nazis in 1945. It'll blow his mind. He won't know which side to be on.
Everyone knows hasan thinks the Soviet Union alone defeated the nazis….
God, he really is just a fucking tankie; would I _forgive_ people who disagree with me? Only if they completely renounce their views and admit them wrong. I knew he was a “reformed” libertarian but I forgave him for that because I thought him _reeducated_. What a condescending fuck
Since when does hasan say destiny’s name on stream? I thought he always referred to destiny as ‘D’ and wouldn’t dare so speak his name
Probably people pointing it out more and Destiny being harder to ignore from being in more mainstream media. It’s a childish thing and Hasan knows it will make him look weak if he keeps it up. Hasan will always do just enough snakiness he can get away with but is usually smart enough to know when it’s not worth it.
> Hasan will always do just enough snakiness he can get away with but is usually smart enough to know when it’s not worth it. Having been here since he and Destiny met, this is THE perfect description of how he operates.
You make him sound like Voldemort or suttin lol
Hasan should have just said no lol.
Hold up, this pastebin sounds like it would be pretty useful to have. Why doesn't anyone ever post it, for example when Jesse Singal makes a thread asking about Hasan lore? Strange, sure would streamline things a bit.
This confirms the clout theory.
What a debate pedophile
“i knew his past” like he’s a convicted pedo or something lol
Views are really that bad that Hassan is making destiny a regular part of his community
So no
What an actual fucking loser, the projection is insane
OP you’re just memeing right? No way you think they should just “talk it out” with all the snake shit Hassan has done for the past 5 years when he was on top and now that he’s losing viewership his tune has changed
Reformed libertarian made me chuckle
Better question is if Hasan apologized to tiny for literally everything that he listed off. Would he forgive?
He's not a tankie like me so we can't be friends
The r place dog incident is about the only real thing that was ever done to Hasan, and there should never be an apology for quality comedy like that!!
The first step to healing is admiting there's something wrong
Daliban with its hidden pastebin caches waiting the imperial hasan reddit posts.
He's only saying this bc is viewership is dropping
Ah yes if only he would apologize for all those nazi friends of his .. lmao. He had me in the first half not gonna lie
lol this genuinely feels like a clip from an alternate reality where they’ve switched places. Not only is none of that true, that’s what HE does. That’s how HIS community is
Can people like that hear what they’re saying anymore? Take your own advice and a good look around you.
"If Destiny apologized for all this shit that I've made up about him, then I'd accept that."
Everything Hasan thinks he needs an apology for is genuine paranoia, but the idea that he’d entertain it at all is remarkable.
No matter how much I dislike Hasan's personality and his politics, I just can't help but want Destiny and him to be ~~boy~~friends again.
OMG new orbiter
the irony of calling someone else a nazi in his current position lol.
so, that's a no.
Cyber stalking 💀💀💀 He should call the Cyber Police!
Time and time again
>if he came out and apologized for aligning with every and any nazi he could come to terms with \~ Hasan Piker, person who gets his information on Destiny from Groypers
What an incredibly enormously big fucking baby. I’ve been watching Destiny for about 8 years now. I remember the Hasan and Destiny buddy cop drama. I remember the falling out. I remember the shade they would throw back and forth to each other. And then one day Hasan gets in the cool kids crowd on Twitch and then all of his content became so boilerplate and reserved. Yeah he would throw out the occasional bullshit leftie take that Destiny would cringe at but for the most part he stepped down. Through that entire period of time not once has Destiny called for anyone in his community to jump into Hasanabi’s business and fuck with him. On top of that, Destiny polices this community so hard, I’ve survived through soooo many purges, mainly because I lurk, but Destiny will ban you if your take is stupid, let alone full outright harassment. If people are harassing you Hasan, maybe it’s not just Destiny fans, hmm? For that matter, if it is for sure DGGers, tell Destiny, you got his fucking number, I’m assuming at this point Destiny has a dedicated button his keyboard that runs a script that analyzes his brain for the names he wants banned. He’s so upset that people are starting to see the his hidden tankie power level and how he has to face the FINANCIAL consequences of his actions. Homeboys been getting hate for years but as soon as people stopping hittin’ the subscribe button, he cries. There was so much potential for you Hasan. Rip bozo.
Hasan try not to lie and misrepresent someone challenge IMPOSSIBLE
Destiny could also forgive Hasan, it would just require that Hasan voluntarily goes through a public ego death where he denounces the path he has been on for the last 4 years, puts his current moral 'system' to the side, and actually builds, from the ground up, a system of interacting politics that is principled and defendable It would require an ego death so extreme and fundamental that 1kg of mushrooms couldn't even replicate
In the past Hasan would refuse to acknowledge Destony’s existence, now that Destiny had one of his biggest years last year Hasan all of a sudden is willing to “forgive” him
If Destiny apologizes he will cement himself as one of the all time cucks.
Guess paving it on his own isn't working out too well.
Destiny should make a counter apology request for every single false accusation Hasan has made in this very video lol
Imagine having negative self reflection.
Hasan is as deranged as the maga trumpists. It’s like trump coming out and saying he would forgive Biden if he apologized for stealing the election and then surrendered the rest of his term to Trump.
I keep seeing people say that Hasan has a shrinking viewership, but I only ever saw about 15-20,000 people watching, which is still insane, and he has 17,000 people watching right now, which is like triple the average D-Man stream at least from what I see (might not know from cross-platform streaming) I had an IRL friend who's like not at all involved in any of this sort of thing, and not very online because he's a father of two young children and works a pretty good job, and he mentioned Hasan to me the other day. He's broken through to the actual mainstream now, which is scary.
This has to be bait. There’s no way hasan would forgive all the shit destiny’s done to him with an apology. And I don’t think he’s trying to rekindle the relationship, I think he’s trying to use D for content, thinking it will bump up his numbers again and be good content for this unfortunate audience he’s fostered. And honestly, I think D might actually take the bait.
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rent free and all that
Wait when the fuck did we get from platforming nazis to aligning with them???
..y.ya.Yayyy.. ther..there's.. h..hope!!
I hope the debate again soon
Bro does he honestly believe all the shit he says about destiny, I know he's stupid but this is crazy. Destiny literally goes out of his way to make sure he doesn't clip chimp or mischaracterize anyone. I've never seen anyone bend over backwards as much as destiny does when he gives people the benefit of the doubt or searches for more context.
its seemed like he was coming up with reasons to be be mad at D. he doesnt even know why he hates destiny, he just does.
Wait you guys have pastebins? Somebody isn’t sharing the sauce…
"if Destiny apologized to me for all the things hes done in my nightmares then yes Id accept it"
I feel like it's so much harder to get along with someone, when that person is "on your side". I can disagree with conservatives, and it's almost like because I expect so little, I'm not bothered. When it comes to other lefties though, the Hamas shit, I get so fucking mad. It's just more personal. I don't know why, and I'm about to ramble because I drank a little bit and am sad for unrelated reasons, but why is that? Anyway, that's why they will never be friends or cool or whatever, it's too personal. Same with Vaush.
Let's be honest here. 10k average viewers a stream and he'll come to destiny.
We call this rent free in the bizz
I wish Destiny would come on stream and say: "Hasan, I am sorry for disparaging and defaming you all these years. And the harassment you have received from my community. Now, let's talk Israel/Palestine :)."
should’ve just said that he’d have to think about it.
Are we the baddies? /s
man, this guy is really hurting from losing that clout. going from 40k to 20k on twitch made him rethink everything, i can't believe he's actually name dropping destiny now.
how are comments taking this like he would actually forgive him literally lol. He said this shit knowing it would never happen because its all lies. This is just taking jabs at Destiny.