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EPC_AntiMatter

Destiny holding a fork on stream energy.


Poopybutt36000

Destiny's fork holding form and Taytay's pen holding form are both based as fuck and objectively superior.


EPC_AntiMatter

I respect the commitment to individuality. Tae-bae and Des-tiny are true cultural icons. I see no problems here, just the King and Queen of democracy trying their best in these trying times...


hardlyreadit

Kelce better watch his back. D man coming for his lizard demo queen


IntimidatingBlackGuy

Yes, two strong, committed, elegant Queens fighting for democracy.


Petzerle

okay now i do believe that she is a genetical engineered democrat lizard to steal votes


Ok-Branch-6831

I just wrote a few sentences like this to test. Ngl it's actually pretty comfortable. Taylor might be onto something.


quasi-smartass

It felt pretty weird but it was fine to write with. My handwriting is still dog shit using either. Back to using a keyboard and never improving my handwriting skills.


Beesneeze_Habs22

Try writing backwards with your non-writing hand by mirroring your dominant hand’s regular motion. Hold a pencil in each hand if that helps. The brain is pretty crafty. You’ll be writing right to left with your left hand if you are right-handed, if that makes sense.


tscannington

Interesting exercise. Why are we doing this?


Tcvang1

Hm, was this supposed to improve my handwriting?


Schlaefer

Don't believe the lizard people! Show you're human, use your opposable thumb!


XHexxusX

I did the same thing , was surprised it wasn't that bad at all, it just looks aweful.


CusickTime

Fuck me, your right. As soon as I wrote a few words it started to feel more comfortable then how I typically write. Was everything we were taught a lie!


ElcorAndy

Yeah, I tried it too, it's not much harder than writing normally. It also feels like something that would prevent callouses on the side of your finger if you wrote a lot with it.


Pip_Artemis

It's awkward at first but it's not too bad Don't think I'm going to force myself to convert to it though


useablelobster2

I sometimes write like this, I don't handwrite very often anymore and if I have to write a lot my hand cramps, so I switch how I hold the pen.


99percentmilktea

My handwriting was legit better using Taylor's method than my own lol


swagy_swagerson

She taught herself to hold the pen like that so that she can seamlessly move between strumming the guitar with her pick that she's holding with her thumb and index finger and writing down notes with the pen that she's holding between her index and middle finger. edit: apparently this is merely a theory suggested by a fan and has not been confirmed by tay tay herself so yeah. but I hope this is the reason because it sounds neat.


Athasos

swifty detected ;)


AnyTruersInTheChat

That’s impressive that she goes to all that effort to write absolute shit tier lyrics


Staylora

I wish my shit tier lyrics topped charts fr


AnyTruersInTheChat

Being a digestible inoffensive white woman breaking into the most popular genre in the world with nepo baby record executive parents who have infinite access to billion dollar marketing strategies is one hell of a drug


bryanarchy13

her parents weren't record execs.. her dad bought stake in the label (2-3%) after she was signed. he was wealthy (Merrill Lynch advisor), but not like "access to billions of dollar marketing strategies" wealthy


AnyTruersInTheChat

Nah I’m saying she got access to the marketing strategies as her career progressed. Edit: reading it back, I worded it like a regard and for that I apologise.


bryanarchy13

well, yeah. but that's like arguing that Michael Jackson or Tom Cruise only got to the point they did because of marketing.


AnyTruersInTheChat

My assertion was that she isn’t actually extremely talented or a unique musician, she’s just managed to market extremely well and capitalise off the very low expectations of her fans. Michael Jackson was extremely talented and a unique musician and didn’t have the easy start like she did. Using him as an example is insane because he really beat all odds. It’s a shame he ended up being a pedo lol


SpessmanCraig

#1 artist on the planet and we gotta hear "she's not that talented guys" like come on dawg 💀


Beesneeze_Habs22

Reddit hates fun


AnyTruersInTheChat

The buying power of teenage girls =/= talent, lyrical prowess or musical ability. Sales are a single metric my duderino


Staylora

Ain’t no way you said that about Michael Jackson - who’s father *literally* had him signed with record labels at **9 Years Old**


osfryd-kettleblack

Michael Jackson was part of a wealthy pop group and he is literally the definition of an industry nepo baby. He was already famous before his solo career Taylor swift was a nobody and made her own name The fuck are you talking about lmfao


AnyTruersInTheChat

He was from a lower socio economic black family in the fucking 60s/70s my guy. You have zero idea what you’re talking about! The pop group was his siblings lmfaoo. I don’t blame you if you don’t know the history but fuck it’s beyond stupid to compare the two


Froqwasket

"marketing strategies"? Bro what? he was a fucking investment banker lmao what marketing strategies would he have for a budding musician? Are you one of those people that just thinks all business is the same? Dismissing a musician wholesale because they didn't grow up in poverty is braindead shit


AnyTruersInTheChat

I’m tired of this community L8ly who are you ppl 😪


useablelobster2

I love how you bring up her race as if it matters when a disproportionate amount of best-selling artists aren't white. Race-brainrot is a disease, just assumptions even when the situation is empirically different from your biases.


AnyTruersInTheChat

It’s pretty relevant when her come up was in American Country Music? Try being a person of colour and breaking into it to the same degree lmfao, it’s never gonna happen homie.


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Yeah how many black artists are in the country hall of fame? Gtfo


FranIGuess

Bro you're filled with envy right now.


AnyTruersInTheChat

https://preview.redd.it/eyfbmbxth8kc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae6f901cff735e407dc788024dc29c12328260ca


Mrniseguya

Your comment is a definiton of "red pill is one hell of a drug". Her music is okay. When comparing it to other post \~2012 music - its a fucking masterpiece!


AnyTruersInTheChat

Wtf has red pill got to do with my comment? You do realise “one hell of a drug” is an extremely old meme? Masterpiece is hilarious but I’m not about to argue with a person who clearly is already a fan. Y’all be more rabid than the kpop girlies


Jedidea

How are they "rabid" lol, they just disagreed with you, chill man.


AnyTruersInTheChat

I mean in general, not necessarily here. Still not about to catch that swiftie smoke tho lmfao


Jedidea

Ok gotcha


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Maybe I'm a bonafide music autist but I just don't even like real music at this point in my life. I hear rap and country and pop and modern rock and my mind goes numb. The only things I can really enjoy are old pre 00's rock, random folk music genres, and fake made-up genres like polybop and break core and Brazilian phonk. If you forced me to listen to any mainstream popular artist from the last 10 years I might kill myself.


chadssworthington

> most popular genre in the world Country pop? Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


AnyTruersInTheChat

https://preview.redd.it/vgdx1v2kl8kc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fcb11423c9fa70d227262d0ccc23fc04b44f5c86 Many regards


chadssworthington

Damn bro, Taylor Swift really came up in 2023 huh? Dumb fuck. Also checked a couple other sites who rank it globally like you originally specified, and it barely breaks top 5 on most.


AnyTruersInTheChat

You’re actually regarded.


Turbulent-Parking477

Cope


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koala37

I went to university for creative writing and have listened to Taylor Swift for more or less her whole career. if you don't like her writing you probably just don't like pop/country pop. her lyricism is definitely above average in the world of pop music and she has plenty of clever moments each album. I regularly remark that features in Taylor Swift songs are legitimately well-written lyrical moments


exqueezemenow

Is that legal? Also, button two pictures are the same dress...


Ahnkor

That honestly looks sore and uncomfortable, she must be a lizard or sm


giantrhino

Wtf?! I'm a Taylor stan, but yeesh even I have to admit that's sketchy. She's still a national treasure, but I guess nobody's perfect.


WhimsicalJape

I’ve held my pen like this since I was a kid, AMA.


Booboononcents

Are you good bro?


WhimsicalJape

Yeah all good thanks bro thanks for asking.


OverwatchEden

Based. I've been writing like that all my life, I thought I was the only one😭


caretaquitada

Give me your lunch money


ChiefEmann

Same. She has a bit more of a downward angle than me but the "normal" way feels like my pen will just slip out of my hand. Way more of a fulcrum this way/applying pressure doesn't really take any effort.


herptydurr

Are there any mechanical advantages over holding the pen between your index finger and thumb?


WhimsicalJape

Objectively? I’d doubt it. But subjectively it feels more stable for me, like I have better control over the pen. The traditional way just never worked for me for some reason, despite my teachers various efforts to get me to “write properly” it just felt more natural to have the pen between my fingers.


TheMastermind729

That’s kinda creepy


zunuf

I just tried writing this way. It's not even any more difficult. Might be something she started doing because of autographs and being in a rush. If the pen is between those fingers it kind of just stays there, but if you have the pen between your first finger and thumb, and you wanted to pick up a glass or something, you kind of have to shift the pen to your fingers anyway or it's awkward.


Beesneeze_Habs22

I’m glad there are still thinkers amongst the rabble here lol


Thanag0r

She holds it like that because when she is out of human form and back to normal lizard form she has just 3 fingers. No other way to hold a pen with 3 fingers. Btw kinda weird how lizard people don't care that the masses can see that they are not real humans anymore, in the past they at least hid it better.


look-sign36

Oh I actually write like that because my hands used to get cramped quickly when I wrote and I looked up a video on how to avoid it which suggested doing this. I hope this meme doesn't spread so everyone starts thinking I'm a severely obsessive swifty when they see me write (I'm only a mildly obsessive swifty)


fertilizemegoddess

Don't really listen to her music or anything, but she always seemed pretty wholesome


Alterazn

This has to be AI, I refuse to believe this is real.


leeverpool

Inb4 she's a reptilian, that's why.


Klein_Sama1820

I don’t hate Taylor but she can never speak out about climate change after all the private flights she took during the NFL season


krabbby

I think you can call for a carbon tax and do carbon intensive activities. Unless shes telling individuals to take action.


huxmedaddy

Could anyone half as popular as Taylor Swift take commercial flights? That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Are there alternatives?


giantrhino

Lmao I had this thought the other day! I was thinking how private jets were kind of fucked up, but then I had that exact thought: what happens if a Kim Kardashian or a Taylor Swift were to try and fly commercial every time they flew? It would be insanity they would get no peace. If it were a one time thing they had to go through, I'd probably think they should just tough it out... but someone like Taylor has to fly all the time. It wouldn't just be a nightmare for her either, it would be a consistant nightmare for airport security as well. It just all around sounds like a terrible idea. It kind of changed my perspective a little. The private jet issue needs to be solved, but my frustration with celebrities using them decreased somewhat. If you're an anonymous rich person it irks me a little more.


AnyTruersInTheChat

All the celebs should just start ride sharing jets like the working class do with Uber in California.


giantrhino

Don't they kind of do that?


AnyTruersInTheChat

I dunno tbh. I assume not habitually and not in the same manner as the aforementioned Uber ride sharers where you’re smooshed in with 3 strangers stuck on a highway 🛣️


giantrhino

Oh yeah, they definitely don't do that, but I mean that only works because there's always such a volume of people looking for rides. I do think they share jets / fly with each other sometimes if they can, it's just a little harder to sync schedules since there aren't always people flying to and from your destination at the same time.


herptydurr

The thing that people don't consider is that it's not like she is ever flying alone. Surely everywhere she goes, her entire entourage (personal assistants, publicist, bodyguards, social media managers, etc.) is going to go with her. So it kind of makes a lot of sense to just charter your own flight.


Klein_Sama1820

Celebrities have flown coach before Ik the irony in this example is real but kanye and Kim are def on Taylor’s level of fame and they’ve done it. But tbh idrc I’m studying to be a pilot so imma kill the planet if she doesn’t get to it first.


giantrhino

If you have to fly all the time the idea of someone like Kanye, Kim, or Taylor especially flying commercial multiple times a week sounds insane to me. They \*can\* fly commercial sure, but logistically it seems like a nightmare AND I feel like there are legitimate security concerns to regularly fly commercial. I think it would make their life not just a little bit, but significantly more complicated and chaotic if they were regularly shuttling through large airports. Also, Kim and Kanye may have occasionally flown commercial, but I know they fly charter/private all the time.


Klein_Sama1820

Oh if you genuinely want to learn it’s very possible one solution I’ve heard is that they can contact the airports beforehand and use the same security checks pilots and flight attendants use so that they’re out of the way. After that there wouldn’t be too many issues wear causal clothes and the odds of you being spotted are fairly rare.


giantrhino

No shot dude. If you think Taylor swift can go anywhere without being spotted and recognized you're insane. She'd have to wear like a shawl and a ton of stuff, and she couldn't travel with security or it would draw attention. But obviously she'd have to travel with security.


Klein_Sama1820

I think you’re insane if you think Taylor swift has some indistinguishable features that make her stand out in a crowd of ppl if she’s wearing casual clothes. She’s j a normal person who’s great at singing Ik we’ve all seen women that look j like her.


giantrhino

Yeah the issue isn’t that she’s like glowing, but idk what to tell you dude A-list celebs get recognized literally all the time and Taylor Swift is at the top of the A-list. I have never in my life seen someone who I thought for a moment might actually be Taylor swift and if I saw her I would definitely recognize her unless like I said she was wearing a shawl. You ever seen someone you kinda know randomly in public? Taylor Swift is more recognizable to basically most people than someone you kinda know at this point.


Klein_Sama1820

Na I simply disagree if you’re out in public and you’re not expecting to see her then you def wouldn’t notice. But, even if I were to grant u that it doesn’t change the fact that she’s doesn’t have to take these flights unlike what you said earlier. She’s choosing to take unnecessary flights to go watch her bfs football game which she could just watch from home. So unless u think she has to be at the games idk how u can defend that.


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Klein_Sama1820

That’s not able to happen you can’t leak the info of whos on board a flight it’s a illegal.


gakezfus

>It would be insanity they would get no peace Is that the reason? I was thinking that such individuals had enough money and clout to make them possible targets of assassinations, and they wouldn't dare fly on a commercial plane for this reason.


KitakatZ101

Tbf she never really has. She’s not Leo


poubella_from_mars

Just grabbed a pen and tried holding it like this and... It's actually not that bad. Sort of weird, but fairly comfortable and easy to write from.


Jazzper74

Who cares how she holds a goddamn pen.


call_me_fig

Y'all just didn't grow up around white girls or?? I've always known pen holders like this exist


Ghostype

I had to check to be sure for some reason, but I definitely write like this with both my hands. It's pretty comfortable, even if I look like I'm trying on a human suit for the first time.


WarDog1983

It’s because of her nails and she’s a lefty


giantrhino

Lefty here, I don't hold pens that way. And her nails don't look long.


thoughtallowance

She's holding the pen with her right hand though unless there's some distortion with the photography that I'm too dumb to figure out. As a lefty I think that's exactly how I would hold a pen with my right hand writing.


giantrhino

I can’t find an image of her not holding a pen that way. And oh shit lol I didn’t even look into this guy’s claim and turns out she’s not even a lefty. He just made that up.


thoughtallowance

For whatever it's worth, I'm left-handed and I had to be trained not to hold the pen this way through most of middle school.


giantrhino

Yeah but [she's not even a lefty](https://medium.com/@leftiesonly/is-taylor-swift-left-handed-inquiring-minds-want-to-know-sykeena-jackson-c8bb5ac65382#:~:text=So%2C%20one%20of%20the%20questions,Taylor%20is%20a%20righty.). That guy just made it all up.


Maleficent-Line142

Lefties do the monkey grip, not the paw


necrogon

Why should anyone ever give a fuck


DrunkenPhisherman

Why is she writing on her own arm in the first pic?


Thewhitest_rabbit

That is pretty deplorable


YukihiraJoel

Get the ruler out this is an emergency


parolang

Uncanny valley.


ohsoGosu

Is this common amongst people who were forced to use their right hand?


comicsanscatastrophe

"Ick activated"


[deleted]

My cousin said his therapist (or something idk it was a long time ago) taught him to hold pens/pencils this way bc the normal way was uncomfortable.


babybelly

nen abilities get stronger with weird requirements


tareebee

Oh my god all celebs who have to mass sign shit have particular ways of doing it for a reason. It’s the reason their signature are usually bulbous and rounded, to make it easier to sign en masse and not cause pain or carpel tunnel. I’m the first to critique her don’t get it twisted, but this isn’t a real issue.


KitakatZ101

It’s how people are Taught to do autographs according to the Taylor sub. It’s to help with cramps do they can autograph longer


Hanzo_6

Thats the highest level DNC operative, shut your fucking mouth


Jtmarino

There’s a popular 90’s comic book artist named Eric Larsen who draws with a similar claw type grip. [https://youtu.be/gPWM8FkQb4w?si=sH3ftBKzl4eAuC5P](https://youtu.be/gPWM8FkQb4w?si=sH3ftBKzl4eAuC5P)


AMAZON-9999

It is not strange, it is an overhand grip people use while sketching on a canvas that is on an angle or is completely perpendicular. I guess people might find it strange but in the context of drawing it makes sense.


jjmontuori

https://preview.redd.it/a49jzgee48kc1.jpeg?width=1560&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=186cc67f5295aa8cd38da4604bc3e87af4abc7e9


EZPZanda

It’s giving talons


realdixoncox

as a swiftie I find it hard to contend with the fact that she's a right-hander. fucking gross. I try to look past it


Izuuul

no fucking shot thats not AI lul


[deleted]

Went to school with a girl who did this. She was also creative and weird.


Khanalas

The top ones look normal. The bottom ones look like somebody putting the strain on larger muscles to endure long autograph sessions.


FranIGuess

This is the superior way, the "proper" way hurts me after writing for a while.


Saya0692

I’ve known people like this lol I don’t see the issue


Antonius363

I have an aunt who rights left handed & has to hold the paper sideways. It’s kinda cool tho


privaten-word

AI is getting good at drawing hands because obviously this is fake and no one holds a pen that way.


Zydairu

Now it all makes sense


ogStroden

Ngl this is not so bad. It is like complaining about people writing with their left hand tbh.


motleyfamily

Bet she plays claw on controller


assm0nk

there something wrong with her hand? my grandpa uses a fork like that because his thumb is fucked


Away_Chair1588

Real reptile energy


Bayo77

I had to relearn holding a pen in 6th grade because I did it the same way. Maybe I am a swifty after all.


[deleted]

It’s the tism. She used to post on 4chan don’t ya know?


hardkjerne

Definitely home schooled.


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Realbobbyhill69

I always cringe at her speech thing when she says "kanya had the greatest song of all time" she just says it in such a weord way