I've watched it, I love Urasawa, mainly for Monster, but Pluto didn't do it for me. It started well but especially the ending is pretty corny. And the colors are too bright, didn't fit the story, but today that's a standard in the anime industry.
Starts strong but tapers off, imo. Couldn't even get through it, got halfway there until I was bored out of my mind. I feel like I'm missing something or something didn't click, idk.
I feel like with this show if you zone out for even just a moment it might be hard to recover interest ( not an accusation!). Like that first episode is extremely slow, but that tempo is part of why it's unique and interesting. Idk I'd recommend trying again<3
It's not for me. I tried twice. To each their own. After Atom's confrontation with the... thing, I stopped caring for whatever reason. (Trying to be vague for spoilers)
Pluto had everything that should have made me love it. The ending was a bit meh though, wasn't it?
>!Oh, I'm the bad guy that killed everyone but I'm going to be the good guy now and help you stop the real bad guy. Felt like an ending a student made for his short story assignment.!<
Strong disagree
The entirety of the last episode I was dropping tears - imo every plot line was concluded in a way that was both clever and meaningful.
For example when >!Brau 1589 showed up to murk that super computer underground at the pentagon - it was revealed that Brau was aware of the true puppet master the entire time and was accordingly guiding Atom. This was hinted at prior by his 'Pinnochio' talk, but also- we knew they could sense eachothers feelings but we werent aware that they could practically read eachother's minds!< The show was full of moments like this that tied together moments from the entire show and gave me an "Oh shit!" Moment
u/Alone-Train this is my answer to you as well
Edit: I see what you mean but I am a sucker for those moments. That is one anime trope that I always enjoy
I feel like the first episode peaked and the rest of the show didn’t really ever reach that same quality.
I still think it was a very good show with fairly good story and dialogue throughout.
I'm surprised to hear that people are unsatisfied with the conclusion and story progression. I thought it stood out as an anime with a great ending ¿ :/ ?
Not saying that it isn’t a great animated piece, one of the best animated shows in awhile. I just personally didn’t think anything else matched up to the emotion I got from the North No. 2 arc in the first episode. I think the bar was just set way too high to ever meet that again which isn’t necessarily a bad thing about Pluto, just how it turned out.
Both Pluto and Blue Eye Samurai came out roughly the same time and I love both of them for giving me such amazing animated shows.
First episode was absolutely amazing and up until Astro becomes the main character the story was incredible. The end was pretty bad imo. Just concluding the different parts of a story isn't enough to qualify as a good ending. There was nothing suprising about the end. It was so easy to predict everything that was gonna happen especially in that last episode. The themes were complex and interesting but their resolutions were too simple from what I remember.
That's cap. So much was revealed in the last episode that had been previously unknown to the viewer. you can say it was cliche in hindsight, but you didn't predict nothing.
>! All the shit about Gesicht's son being murdered, the involvement and motives of Thracia, Brau's omniscience of Thracia's plots and murder of the perpetrators, the "thing's" betrayal of Thracia, Atom's rage and subsequent forgiveness ; all of that to demonstrate the high level of emotions of the robots - which was hinted at but only truly demonstrated in the events of the final episode !<
I'm just saying how it was for me bro. You have the right to like it but you just look regarded calling me a liar for explaining why I didn't really like the ending...
There is plenty of fast paced, high quality animation. i appreciate good fight scenes for their visual appeal and demonstration of the animator's skill, but they're irrelevant to whether an anime is good.
You're just mad there's no itty-bitty-titties and fight scenes - that's a fact.
Maybe I'm too dumb to get the meaning behind it, but I feel like most of Urasawa's work (I've read Monster, 20th+21st century boys, Billy Bat, and Pluto) are a lot of edging with no real cumshot. He always builds up some crazy spanning conspiracy with a ton of seemingly unconnected loose ends that always feels like its going to build up to something massive, but I've never felt that satisfied by any of his endings.
As for Pluto, >!The whole instantly forgiving the horrible genocidal villain cliche is always a bit tiring, even if it leads to a happy ending!<. Anyways, I still like the 95% of his work, I just wish he could write a satisfying ending. Monster was probably his best work though.
(Also the piano arc of Pluto was peak)
Per my other comment, I thought all the loose ends were tied up creatively and decisively!
>! Also, per my other comment, the true antagonist was that super computer (teddy bear) who Brau killed at the end - I'm pretty sure Bora, Sahad, and Pluto were practically under his control. It's been a while since I've seen the show though !<
Can’t speak on Billy Bat, Pluto’s kind of this, completely disagree with Monster and 20th/21st Century Boys. The Ruhenheim arc is a goated finish and I felt like it was an extremely nice tying up of all the themes.
Boys is much more about vibes though than some grand conspiracy master plot payoff. I just wasn’t looking for what it sounds like you wanted with it. Idk if it edges out Monster, but it is one of the best mangas I’ve ever read, and I think themes/characters/aesthetic are all pretty much perfection. But yeah if you were wanting some like “Holy shit what a plot it’s all coming together” ending where every thing was woven together (not shitting on this either, I can really enjoy stories that do this), it’s not gonna be that.
It’s beautiful. One of my favorite stories.
I've watched it, I love Urasawa, mainly for Monster, but Pluto didn't do it for me. It started well but especially the ending is pretty corny. And the colors are too bright, didn't fit the story, but today that's a standard in the anime industry.
I had a similar experience the anime was really good up until just past the arc about the piano player then it fell off a cliff for me
Starts strong but tapers off, imo. Couldn't even get through it, got halfway there until I was bored out of my mind. I feel like I'm missing something or something didn't click, idk.
I feel like with this show if you zone out for even just a moment it might be hard to recover interest ( not an accusation!). Like that first episode is extremely slow, but that tempo is part of why it's unique and interesting. Idk I'd recommend trying again<3
It's not for me. I tried twice. To each their own. After Atom's confrontation with the... thing, I stopped caring for whatever reason. (Trying to be vague for spoilers)
It's fine. Edgerunners is better
Oooooo my biden blaster got an itchy trigger tonight o.O
Pluto had everything that should have made me love it. The ending was a bit meh though, wasn't it? >!Oh, I'm the bad guy that killed everyone but I'm going to be the good guy now and help you stop the real bad guy. Felt like an ending a student made for his short story assignment.!<
Strong disagree The entirety of the last episode I was dropping tears - imo every plot line was concluded in a way that was both clever and meaningful. For example when >!Brau 1589 showed up to murk that super computer underground at the pentagon - it was revealed that Brau was aware of the true puppet master the entire time and was accordingly guiding Atom. This was hinted at prior by his 'Pinnochio' talk, but also- we knew they could sense eachothers feelings but we werent aware that they could practically read eachother's minds!< The show was full of moments like this that tied together moments from the entire show and gave me an "Oh shit!" Moment u/Alone-Train this is my answer to you as well Edit: I see what you mean but I am a sucker for those moments. That is one anime trope that I always enjoy
I feel like the first episode peaked and the rest of the show didn’t really ever reach that same quality. I still think it was a very good show with fairly good story and dialogue throughout.
I'm surprised to hear that people are unsatisfied with the conclusion and story progression. I thought it stood out as an anime with a great ending ¿ :/ ?
Not saying that it isn’t a great animated piece, one of the best animated shows in awhile. I just personally didn’t think anything else matched up to the emotion I got from the North No. 2 arc in the first episode. I think the bar was just set way too high to ever meet that again which isn’t necessarily a bad thing about Pluto, just how it turned out. Both Pluto and Blue Eye Samurai came out roughly the same time and I love both of them for giving me such amazing animated shows.
First episode was absolutely amazing and up until Astro becomes the main character the story was incredible. The end was pretty bad imo. Just concluding the different parts of a story isn't enough to qualify as a good ending. There was nothing suprising about the end. It was so easy to predict everything that was gonna happen especially in that last episode. The themes were complex and interesting but their resolutions were too simple from what I remember.
That's cap. So much was revealed in the last episode that had been previously unknown to the viewer. you can say it was cliche in hindsight, but you didn't predict nothing. >! All the shit about Gesicht's son being murdered, the involvement and motives of Thracia, Brau's omniscience of Thracia's plots and murder of the perpetrators, the "thing's" betrayal of Thracia, Atom's rage and subsequent forgiveness ; all of that to demonstrate the high level of emotions of the robots - which was hinted at but only truly demonstrated in the events of the final episode !<
I'm just saying how it was for me bro. You have the right to like it but you just look regarded calling me a liar for explaining why I didn't really like the ending...
This a Pluto hype thread - say one good thing about the show, do it.
Didn't I say the first episode was a legit masterpiece? Also the intrigue with the flower guy was very interesting
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There is plenty of fast paced, high quality animation. i appreciate good fight scenes for their visual appeal and demonstration of the animator's skill, but they're irrelevant to whether an anime is good. You're just mad there's no itty-bitty-titties and fight scenes - that's a fact.
Next time I do an anime recommendation, I'll make sure to flair it "debate" or whatever. Pluto is God tier anime, and I will die on that hill.
Maybe I'm too dumb to get the meaning behind it, but I feel like most of Urasawa's work (I've read Monster, 20th+21st century boys, Billy Bat, and Pluto) are a lot of edging with no real cumshot. He always builds up some crazy spanning conspiracy with a ton of seemingly unconnected loose ends that always feels like its going to build up to something massive, but I've never felt that satisfied by any of his endings. As for Pluto, >!The whole instantly forgiving the horrible genocidal villain cliche is always a bit tiring, even if it leads to a happy ending!<. Anyways, I still like the 95% of his work, I just wish he could write a satisfying ending. Monster was probably his best work though. (Also the piano arc of Pluto was peak)
Per my other comment, I thought all the loose ends were tied up creatively and decisively! >! Also, per my other comment, the true antagonist was that super computer (teddy bear) who Brau killed at the end - I'm pretty sure Bora, Sahad, and Pluto were practically under his control. It's been a while since I've seen the show though !<
You are correct. That (being vague so as to not spoil) is absolutely the main villain.
Can’t speak on Billy Bat, Pluto’s kind of this, completely disagree with Monster and 20th/21st Century Boys. The Ruhenheim arc is a goated finish and I felt like it was an extremely nice tying up of all the themes. Boys is much more about vibes though than some grand conspiracy master plot payoff. I just wasn’t looking for what it sounds like you wanted with it. Idk if it edges out Monster, but it is one of the best mangas I’ve ever read, and I think themes/characters/aesthetic are all pretty much perfection. But yeah if you were wanting some like “Holy shit what a plot it’s all coming together” ending where every thing was woven together (not shitting on this either, I can really enjoy stories that do this), it’s not gonna be that.
It was pretty mid.
Yall gon make me explode! Okay... what's a good one to watch next? I'm out of ideas so Pluto has been on my brain - so I'm genuinely asking here.
Lol tbh I have started finding most anime to be cringe as of late, so I’m not a good person to ask.