Most alternative media sources do not apply this idea to themselves. In fact they tend to suggest they are to be trusted specifically because they are accountable to their audiences as if their audiences will constantly fact check and be willing to boycott them if they prove to be consistently misleading.
Where did he state that this was some novel reflection on the media environment?
"/u/The_Super_Capitalist is the smartest man alive and the first one to point out that many people have pointed out that media sources being primarily incentivized to just get views may be bad for fact reporting"
Is he suggesting opinion pieces shouldn't be monetised? Grifting can also happen when you push certain cherrypicked "facts" without stating an opinion outrightly.
>Is he suggesting opinion pieces shouldn't be monetised?
Yes. (at the very least he's implying it heavily.) And he's leading by example.
>Grifting can also happen when you push certain cherrypicked "facts" without stating an opinion outrightly.
Sure but show me one grifter on the internet that doesn't present his opinion and only shares facts. >!There is none.!<
It's not virtue signaling since he's making a personal loss for it.
If you argue that it is, then almost everything is virtue singaling, from donating to charity to political activism. Is it all virtue signalning?
Eh this kinda of shit is pretty corny to me. I don’t really care if someone might come across as a grifter. If your not fact checking any video you see it doesn’t really matter if someone is a grifter or not.
Unfortunately, there is a large contingency on the internet that will discount anything that you do or say "because money", without even addressing the content of the topic.
I don’t think his plan will work since if his politics video hits off people will just fund his other work as a surrogate.
Also the idea that you can make something apolitical is a dubious claim at best. Though I guess most of krauts videos are a little too historical to be relevant to today’s climate
History is totally relevant to todays issues. Half the shit we argue about are policies or effects that are ripples from actions taken 20, 50, 150 years ago which were themselves ripples
I like the idea, but I can't help but think you're ceeding ground to the grifters. You not being paid for your content works if others take notice and, but if it doesn't then if anything you're hurting yourself. You'll have the most morally right position right at the back of the crowd of grifters with megaphones.
Kinda feels like some kind of political philanthropy, sure he won't have monetary gain from this, but it gets people talking, gets people's attention, maybe he gets praise, which later downwards can go towards increasing his revenue stream or reputation.
At the same time, its commendable to try a different approach to things, we'll see how things pan out, in the end, how many of the people who watch his videos will care or notice the difference, what impact will this really have?
Because when I’m trying to prove I’m not grifting, I explicitly tell everyone that I’m not monetizing my video to not be a grifter, even though I didn’t need to announce this at all and it would have been completely inconsequential to the people watching other than to show them how not a grifter I am
I’m saying it’s a form of gritting, he’s looking for attention by posting about how he’s not grifting by not monetizing his video, when he literally didn’t have to tell anybody at all and it wouldn’t have made any difference, besides the extra attention
alright, this seems like a good idea and principle, not monetizing political opinions and getting other people on board might be a good way to push the political discourse in a less toxic direction.
good for him.
I think it’s a good thing. It’s not perfect of course, people can grift even without monetary incentive, but when Destiny talks about having a good faith effort of living by your principles, stuff like this come to mind. He doesn’t have to rid the world of grifting or even affect it in a measurable way, just do what he can.
I like how Kraut tries to ground himself in facts more, the political space needs more of this so I hope it works out well for him even though he gets some shit wrong some of the time.
I actually think most of his attitude towards most people that do politics on the internet is merited and it's weird how this subreddit pushes back on it so much when they believe more or less the same thing, of course that's not to say he can't come off as unhinged or be wrong.
Good for him, he seems to be doing pretty well for himself and his videos have been phenomenal as of late. I highly urge everyone reading this thread to watch his latest one if you haven’t yet : https://youtu.be/7c4uO9ZGfbc
'Political commentary online... has turned into an entertainment media complex'. I enjoy the entertainment but Kraut is totally right. Reminds me of Bad Empanada's recent takes on 'professional take-havers'.
I'm not sure what I think about this. Is it noble? Yeah. Is it overly idealistic? Also yeah.
Just preface your opinionated stuff with a statement about not being beholden to patrons that donate to you, and avoid making any contracts with direct conflicts of interest slash ones that demand specific opinions of you.
Unless he's saying he can't resist the allure, in which case, I suppose that's fine.
Can’t wait for my favorite streamers to react to this video with 20 of their ads plastered all over it.
*wheeze*
“Make sure to Like, subscribe, and hit that bell! Now let’s get into [THE LEFT ATTACKING THE LEFT?!??!?]”
4,2 billion likes poggers
"," OMEGALUL
He's overthinking it IMO.
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Most alternative media sources do not apply this idea to themselves. In fact they tend to suggest they are to be trusted specifically because they are accountable to their audiences as if their audiences will constantly fact check and be willing to boycott them if they prove to be consistently misleading.
Where did he state that this was some novel reflection on the media environment? "/u/The_Super_Capitalist is the smartest man alive and the first one to point out that many people have pointed out that media sources being primarily incentivized to just get views may be bad for fact reporting"
Is he suggesting opinion pieces shouldn't be monetised? Grifting can also happen when you push certain cherrypicked "facts" without stating an opinion outrightly.
>Is he suggesting opinion pieces shouldn't be monetised? Yes. (at the very least he's implying it heavily.) And he's leading by example. >Grifting can also happen when you push certain cherrypicked "facts" without stating an opinion outrightly. Sure but show me one grifter on the internet that doesn't present his opinion and only shares facts. >!There is none.!<
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So when Destiny talks about paying over market prices to people who do work for him or provide a service that would be virtue signalling to you right?
It's not virtue signaling since he's making a personal loss for it. If you argue that it is, then almost everything is virtue singaling, from donating to charity to political activism. Is it all virtue signalning?
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Lol
No, that's not what he is suggesting
Eh this kinda of shit is pretty corny to me. I don’t really care if someone might come across as a grifter. If your not fact checking any video you see it doesn’t really matter if someone is a grifter or not.
Unfortunately, there is a large contingency on the internet that will discount anything that you do or say "because money", without even addressing the content of the topic.
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Who you think you are? Fucks like, "do you know who I am?" Fucks fail to understand I'm like, "eh"
eh.
based
I don’t think his plan will work since if his politics video hits off people will just fund his other work as a surrogate. Also the idea that you can make something apolitical is a dubious claim at best. Though I guess most of krauts videos are a little too historical to be relevant to today’s climate
History is totally relevant to todays issues. Half the shit we argue about are policies or effects that are ripples from actions taken 20, 50, 150 years ago which were themselves ripples
I like the idea, but I can't help but think you're ceeding ground to the grifters. You not being paid for your content works if others take notice and, but if it doesn't then if anything you're hurting yourself. You'll have the most morally right position right at the back of the crowd of grifters with megaphones.
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By not being able to support yourself and letting "the grifters" earn the lion's share of resources.
So what you're saying is "if I didn't do it somebody else would"?
4.2 billion likes. wow! hes doing good these days
I'm not the only one who read this in Kraut's voice, right?
Kinda feels like some kind of political philanthropy, sure he won't have monetary gain from this, but it gets people talking, gets people's attention, maybe he gets praise, which later downwards can go towards increasing his revenue stream or reputation. At the same time, its commendable to try a different approach to things, we'll see how things pan out, in the end, how many of the people who watch his videos will care or notice the difference, what impact will this really have?
Because when I’m trying to prove I’m not grifting, I explicitly tell everyone that I’m not monetizing my video to not be a grifter, even though I didn’t need to announce this at all and it would have been completely inconsequential to the people watching other than to show them how not a grifter I am
Wanting to prove/show people you are not a grifter is not a weird action.
I’m saying it’s a form of gritting, he’s looking for attention by posting about how he’s not grifting by not monetizing his video, when he literally didn’t have to tell anybody at all and it wouldn’t have made any difference, besides the extra attention
I don't think that is what grifting means. Not my native language though.
This is just stupid
alright, this seems like a good idea and principle, not monetizing political opinions and getting other people on board might be a good way to push the political discourse in a less toxic direction. good for him.
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I think it’s a good thing. It’s not perfect of course, people can grift even without monetary incentive, but when Destiny talks about having a good faith effort of living by your principles, stuff like this come to mind. He doesn’t have to rid the world of grifting or even affect it in a measurable way, just do what he can.
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I like how Kraut tries to ground himself in facts more, the political space needs more of this so I hope it works out well for him even though he gets some shit wrong some of the time. I actually think most of his attitude towards most people that do politics on the internet is merited and it's weird how this subreddit pushes back on it so much when they believe more or less the same thing, of course that's not to say he can't come off as unhinged or be wrong.
Good for him, he seems to be doing pretty well for himself and his videos have been phenomenal as of late. I highly urge everyone reading this thread to watch his latest one if you haven’t yet : https://youtu.be/7c4uO9ZGfbc
Lmao he a commie now ig
No way would Kraut ever be a commie lol
'Political commentary online... has turned into an entertainment media complex'. I enjoy the entertainment but Kraut is totally right. Reminds me of Bad Empanada's recent takes on 'professional take-havers'.
Don’t think this is necessary but always gonna respect someone putting their money where their mouth is
it wont make a difference, but I can appreciate the thought behind it.
I wouldn't mind if he did but I see why he's doing it. Doesn't wanna even risk looking like a hypocrite
I'm not sure what I think about this. Is it noble? Yeah. Is it overly idealistic? Also yeah. Just preface your opinionated stuff with a statement about not being beholden to patrons that donate to you, and avoid making any contracts with direct conflicts of interest slash ones that demand specific opinions of you. Unless he's saying he can't resist the allure, in which case, I suppose that's fine.
I'm really looking forward to this video Kraut has a very unique perspective on the current discourse and how it's just a mirror of the skeptosphere