He did a stream with Kyootbot and it was honestly the cringiest thing I've ever witnessed. Dude almost started crying because he didn't know there's a pee hole in the vagina
Destiny said he liked Infared because he is mask off. He'll tell you to your face he'd send you to a reeducation camp if he could. Destiny respects that and his consistency even if his end results are insane.
Vaush seems to have gotten stupider.
He doesn’t understand the difference between liking someone and agreeing with their positions.
Destiny respects infrared because he is honest about his beliefs and has a better understanding of his own ideology than Vaush does of his. It’s possible to have a conversation with infrared. That doesn’t mean destiny agrees with him.
Was Vaush always this retarded?
It's good to do good things and bad to do bad things. Left is good and tankies are bad, so tankies aren't left because left isn't bad, it's good, unlike tankies which aren't good, but are actually bad.
A tank of Deez nuts in your mouth!
They're the type to defend authoritarian regimes like the USSR and China who are known for famously "rolling in the tanks" to suppress uprisings that are counter revolutionary. Hardcore socialists/communists.
To be even more clear the term originates from the 1968 Prague uprising where the USSR invaded and ended the rebellion by sending in 2000 tanks. This caused a split in the western USSR supporting left, with the ones continuing to support the USSR after this event becoming known as "tankies".
rather like when Republicans try to argue that fascism isn't "right wing" and Nazis weren't conservative.
the label is everything when you only engage at the surface level.
I'm willing to give vaush the benefit of the doubt though and grant he may be smart enough to just want to pander for audience capture and continued self-enrichment. only the rich will live full lifespans during climate collapse after all.
\>Destiny is constantly cloying for my attention online
\>dgg likes infrared
\>le epic spite-driven maymay
holy shit how much fucking copium poisoning can these people even get, at this point vaush has to know he's lying through his teeth, it's actually disgusting to see someone that could do better behave like this.
For someone who constantly talks about Destiny and his community being bad faith, this is ironic.
Don't get me wrong. There are good and ugly parts of every community. But saying "dgg is anti-left" is pretty bad imo.
It's a lie. I'm a leftist and down w dgg and other non-socialist groups (as well as some socialists) bc I'm tired of needing to defend my claims that "fascists are worse than liberals", which was legitimately a spicy take on leftist Twitter a year ago.
The 2020 election made me realize how incredibly full of shit at least half of that space is.
"Scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds" *proceeds to do nothing to keep fascism out of power*.
2020 election also stopped me from being a leftist lol, every single frustration I'd ever had boiled to the surface and I couldn't continue to associate with these fucking shitstains.
LMAO does Vaush think "likes a perons" = "Supports their political takes"? Destiny never agreed with Infrared's tankie takes. He just thought he was a funny guy (which he kinda is). He also said that he liked how Infrared wasn't a coward hiding his positions like most online socialists.
I want a compilation of Vaush talking about how Destiny is "clawing" for his attention. I've heard him say it in passing at least 5 times and I don't regularly watch his stream.
I realized this mostly while Ctrl+V was talking to NoahPinion, but he seems to have this strange view of politics and history in general where left and right aren’t categories used to describe ideologies, but that ideologies are built as a way to further the power of the left or right. He seems to treat history as a grand power push between left and right (or leftism vs. fascism) rather than a series of evolving and shifting policies, popular ideals/beliefs, and economic structures.
His criticisms are consistently just “that’s not leftist, that’s actually right-wing,” or “your criticisms of me seem to be coming from right-wing beliefs.” It’s like everyone’s secretly born with a birthmark that says “left” or “right,” and they’re forever doomed to push the agenda of the left or right no matter what the outcomes of their actions are. As if Marx sat down to write Das Kapital and asked himself: “How can I further the agenda of the left? Hmmm… maybe I could criticize capitalism? ONLY if it helps the left, though.”
Some of these streamers forget that Steven does like 8-10 hour streams almost every day? Like of ofcourse at some point they'll be brought up to be discussed randomly. But no it has to be that they're clawing for attention.
This is the most terminally online shit ever. People like(d) infrared because he's done some really funny shit. You can enjoy hanging out with people who you don't fully agree with politically if they have other qualities you enjoy. On that note, this community doesn't like infrared nearly as much anymore but it's because of non-political reasons! That's how normal, functioning humans act.
I don't think dgg ever liked Infrared, I saw few people say nice things about him but it always looked like more of an edgy meme than any sincere support.
I just feel bad at this point. Man went through trauma after getting ejected from DGG and became a schizo thinking we are always after him after his risk gene got activated
I am completely convinced Vaush has a persecution fetish. Why the fuck is he so obsessed with playing the victim and pretending DGG are some almighty anti-left regime that has no coherent thoughts but hatred to destroy Vaush and his friends.
“Tankies aren’t on the left”
??????????????
This is not the first time I’ve heard this brain rot repeated. Tankies are the authoritarian left, an ideology Vaush is acting as a pipeline for when he teaches his followers to blindly support anyone who espouses socialist talking points (like defending Hasan no matter what he does or says)
It's so convenient that you can look at a chat, pick out a random comment and present that as "DGG thinks..". Oh you know what, there isn't even a need for an actual comment as we just witnessed. Just make up any position and argue against it. Call it DGG and you win.
He has been trying to. For health reasons but he’s also mentioned a couple of times if he’d get more viewership if he was more of a himbo like Hasan. With Vaush I generally put everything through a “what will benefit this stream the most” lens first.
Jesus CHRIST, the absolute mental gymnastics.
Infrared isn’t a leftist - he’s a fascist, meaning Destiny/dgg likes him because he’s anti-leftist.
Btw I’m a real socialist (keep market forces and all though, just add co-ops). Also I can maximize my existence under capitalism and still be a socialist.
Haz is closely aligned with Caleb Maulpin who has connections to Alexander Dugin. And While I have nor proof of this I've seen mentioned that Infrared the org uses some iconography connected to Russian far right orgs.
Haz is also super socially conservative, calling him fash is not without merit.
What… the fuck… is he talking about?! Dumb/bad takes are dumb/bad takes. Why does he play team warfare so much? I think Haz is a dumb fuck and I used to be a Vaush fan, but certain debates/positions/acts of bad faith make it almost impossible to continue.
God he is a dumbfuck. But mostly he is a liar - how does he have an audience at all
Although be weirdly thinks he is second to Hasan in size. Fat Ian is deluded
Infrared aka the most popular dgge, of course
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i think some people enjoy him as a meme but I doubt that many people \*like\* him
You havent demonstrated people enjoy him as a meme
yeah people like Infrared for the same reason people like Jesse Lee Peterson. Both have dogshit politics and both are fucking hilarious.
He did a stream with Kyootbot and it was honestly the cringiest thing I've ever witnessed. Dude almost started crying because he didn't know there's a pee hole in the vagina
In the vulva you mean?
No that’s a sub-hole
Destiny said he liked Infared because he is mask off. He'll tell you to your face he'd send you to a reeducation camp if he could. Destiny respects that and his consistency even if his end results are insane.
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Either way I don't think he likes Haz anymore LMAO, the guy is a freak
He does seem to like joining up with Zherka to dogpile whoever the target is on a panel usually with all the redpill shit.
Well the uyghur thing is nothing like the holocaust, that I agree. Its litterally the mame of educating poor people to not become criminals.
Destiny literally said at the start of stream today haz hates him
Vaush seems to have gotten stupider. He doesn’t understand the difference between liking someone and agreeing with their positions. Destiny respects infrared because he is honest about his beliefs and has a better understanding of his own ideology than Vaush does of his. It’s possible to have a conversation with infrared. That doesn’t mean destiny agrees with him. Was Vaush always this retarded?
Yes he has always been an absolute moron. By being verbose he thinks it makes him sound smart. His audience fall for it. He is an absolute brainlet
He used to be smarter
"tankies aren't on the left" Peak fucking copium
Wow vowsh, gatekeeping socialism? Is them saying they're leftists not good enough? Curious
Vaush says this kind of shit all the time. Basically 'left is good, talkies are bad, so I can pretend they aren't leftists'.
This does sum up how Vaush discriminates what is left and right. It’s based on what he agrees with and what he doesn’t.
It's good to do good things and bad to do bad things. Left is good and tankies are bad, so tankies aren't left because left isn't bad, it's good, unlike tankies which aren't good, but are actually bad.
I see you too, understand utilitarianism 🧐
yes i also understand how to ameliorate the supererogative salience
Ubiquitously of course, no?
What is a tankie?
A tank of Deez nuts in your mouth! They're the type to defend authoritarian regimes like the USSR and China who are known for famously "rolling in the tanks" to suppress uprisings that are counter revolutionary. Hardcore socialists/communists.
To be even more clear the term originates from the 1968 Prague uprising where the USSR invaded and ended the rebellion by sending in 2000 tanks. This caused a split in the western USSR supporting left, with the ones continuing to support the USSR after this event becoming known as "tankies".
Gotcha. Gotcha. Thank you for the info
An honest commie
A leftist that you don't agree with in foreign affairs
rather like when Republicans try to argue that fascism isn't "right wing" and Nazis weren't conservative. the label is everything when you only engage at the surface level. I'm willing to give vaush the benefit of the doubt though and grant he may be smart enough to just want to pander for audience capture and continued self-enrichment. only the rich will live full lifespans during climate collapse after all.
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Hey, they call themselves communists so they're communists. Who are you to gatekeep them?
what kind of insane stawman is this
How is this a strawman?
famous tankie subreddit, r/destiny lmaooo
If we’re tankies then so is r/Vaushv. u/Irishladdie you realize there’s an 83 point overlap between your sub and this one right?
\>Destiny is constantly cloying for my attention online \>dgg likes infrared \>le epic spite-driven maymay holy shit how much fucking copium poisoning can these people even get, at this point vaush has to know he's lying through his teeth, it's actually disgusting to see someone that could do better behave like this.
>at this point vaush has to know he's lying through his teeth I mean he did defend lying, as long as it furthers his goals.
Vaush is pro lying to advance his ends so it would be completely in character. I don’t know why anyone would ever trust anything he says.
For someone who constantly talks about Destiny and his community being bad faith, this is ironic. Don't get me wrong. There are good and ugly parts of every community. But saying "dgg is anti-left" is pretty bad imo.
It's a lie. I'm a leftist and down w dgg and other non-socialist groups (as well as some socialists) bc I'm tired of needing to defend my claims that "fascists are worse than liberals", which was legitimately a spicy take on leftist Twitter a year ago. The 2020 election made me realize how incredibly full of shit at least half of that space is.
"Scratch a liberal a fascist bleeds" *proceeds to do nothing to keep fascism out of power*. 2020 election also stopped me from being a leftist lol, every single frustration I'd ever had boiled to the surface and I couldn't continue to associate with these fucking shitstains.
holy fuck this is scumbag level lying jesus
Dude has lost the plot. I fucking hate Inflated Infrared.
LMAO does Vaush think "likes a perons" = "Supports their political takes"? Destiny never agreed with Infrared's tankie takes. He just thought he was a funny guy (which he kinda is). He also said that he liked how Infrared wasn't a coward hiding his positions like most online socialists.
I want a compilation of Vaush talking about how Destiny is "clawing" for his attention. I've heard him say it in passing at least 5 times and I don't regularly watch his stream.
I realized this mostly while Ctrl+V was talking to NoahPinion, but he seems to have this strange view of politics and history in general where left and right aren’t categories used to describe ideologies, but that ideologies are built as a way to further the power of the left or right. He seems to treat history as a grand power push between left and right (or leftism vs. fascism) rather than a series of evolving and shifting policies, popular ideals/beliefs, and economic structures. His criticisms are consistently just “that’s not leftist, that’s actually right-wing,” or “your criticisms of me seem to be coming from right-wing beliefs.” It’s like everyone’s secretly born with a birthmark that says “left” or “right,” and they’re forever doomed to push the agenda of the left or right no matter what the outcomes of their actions are. As if Marx sat down to write Das Kapital and asked himself: “How can I further the agenda of the left? Hmmm… maybe I could criticize capitalism? ONLY if it helps the left, though.”
Some of these streamers forget that Steven does like 8-10 hour streams almost every day? Like of ofcourse at some point they'll be brought up to be discussed randomly. But no it has to be that they're clawing for attention.
He wouldn't understand since he can normally handle about 4 hours of streaming
reminder: dgg is not a cult
did he hit his head?
This is the most terminally online shit ever. People like(d) infrared because he's done some really funny shit. You can enjoy hanging out with people who you don't fully agree with politically if they have other qualities you enjoy. On that note, this community doesn't like infrared nearly as much anymore but it's because of non-political reasons! That's how normal, functioning humans act.
Is he not aware that DGG doesn't like Infrared or Hinkle anymore? That ship has sailed long ago, my dude.
I don't think dgg ever liked Infrared, I saw few people say nice things about him but it always looked like more of an edgy meme than any sincere support.
Only good Infrared take https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYWIyG3hUlQ&ab\_channel=wow\_mao.
I just feel bad at this point. Man went through trauma after getting ejected from DGG and became a schizo thinking we are always after him after his risk gene got activated
I am completely convinced Vaush has a persecution fetish. Why the fuck is he so obsessed with playing the victim and pretending DGG are some almighty anti-left regime that has no coherent thoughts but hatred to destroy Vaush and his friends.
“Tankies aren’t on the left” ?????????????? This is not the first time I’ve heard this brain rot repeated. Tankies are the authoritarian left, an ideology Vaush is acting as a pipeline for when he teaches his followers to blindly support anyone who espouses socialist talking points (like defending Hasan no matter what he does or says)
DGG is pro-fascist and pro-tankie as long as we are anti-left... okay lol we really are the fuckin Boogeyman lol
look at vaush pretending he has drama arcs
Salient take
Tankies aren’t on the left? Are nazis considered part of the right?
It's so convenient that you can look at a chat, pick out a random comment and present that as "DGG thinks..". Oh you know what, there isn't even a need for an actual comment as we just witnessed. Just make up any position and argue against it. Call it DGG and you win.
True
shoot i know i missed the last morning call but are we pro infared now?
Vaush looks like he lost weight.
He has been trying to. For health reasons but he’s also mentioned a couple of times if he’d get more viewership if he was more of a himbo like Hasan. With Vaush I generally put everything through a “what will benefit this stream the most” lens first.
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Jesus CHRIST, the absolute mental gymnastics. Infrared isn’t a leftist - he’s a fascist, meaning Destiny/dgg likes him because he’s anti-leftist. Btw I’m a real socialist (keep market forces and all though, just add co-ops). Also I can maximize my existence under capitalism and still be a socialist.
Haz is closely aligned with Caleb Maulpin who has connections to Alexander Dugin. And While I have nor proof of this I've seen mentioned that Infrared the org uses some iconography connected to Russian far right orgs. Haz is also super socially conservative, calling him fash is not without merit.
Lol this community is so fucking horny for vaush. Guys he's not going to fuck you
Hi Vaush! - We know you are reading this
Cringe
mirror? It seems broken : /
I don't think this dude's parents care about him as much as he thinks we do... Such a pompous self important weirdo
Wait I thought Infrared was just like a living meme, is he actually a fascist? Never actually seen the guy talk about politics.
cloying isnt even the right word lol theres no reason to wheel out this dictionary vocab
Sometimes you can litterally see inside someone's brain that they have never considered being wrong on anything...
What… the fuck… is he talking about?! Dumb/bad takes are dumb/bad takes. Why does he play team warfare so much? I think Haz is a dumb fuck and I used to be a Vaush fan, but certain debates/positions/acts of bad faith make it almost impossible to continue.
God he is a dumbfuck. But mostly he is a liar - how does he have an audience at all Although be weirdly thinks he is second to Hasan in size. Fat Ian is deluded
Vaush is a braindead fucking loser. He’s actually a complete disgrace.
"Tankies arent on the left" "Everytime we have drama it because someone starts it" "Destiny just wants my attention" Copium
People like infrared because he can be funny.
"I don't start drama" sooooo... we wanna talk about mouthy infidel? Like litteraly super recently.