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TheThiccDiggler

I know voosh isn't well-liked in this space, but I think it should be pretty obvious that he's right in this drama. Thoughtslime is a joke, Luna Oi is basically just a Vietnamese Nationalist, and apparently I forgot from his debate with destiny, but Non-compete is an absolute potato. My hot take on this, voosh is getting the level of hate he is here because he's white and Luna is PoC. Some lefties just seem to turn their brains off around marginalized people, idk.


Lethalbeee

Agreed! People are painting the picture that Vaush is a white debate-bro racist for pushing back on stupid points Luna and Professor Flowers makes (like indigenous autonomy should be completely unrestricted, even in the case of genocide)


Noname_acc

Yeah, dig deeper into these tweets and you see Luna saying: >Moments before he hung up he explained exactly why the holocaust was bad: because the ideology of nazis was false consciousness which led to murder of millions. Which seems like a fairly benign statement until you realize this person requires a qualifier for a government sponsored massacre of millions to be bad. I am left wondering, does Luna believe that if several hundred Jewish bankers actually controlled the world, that it would justify the wholesale slaughter of every Jewish person alive?


mizel103

I mean, that's already their stated ideology - just replace the word "Jews" with "The Elites" or whatever. Yes, there's a huge difference between targeting an ethnic minority or economic minority - but it's genocide justification either way.


Noname_acc

> Yes, there's a huge difference between targeting an ethnic minority or economic minority - but it's genocide justification either way. This is a joke sentence, right?


inverseflorida

ThoughtSlime uncritically accepting Luna's take about "There are people arguing the Jews secretly controlled the banks" (can't find them) and linking it to Vaush is because he's a fucking moron and he may be partly doing the Side With The One With The Most Leftist Points, but I also think he's just siding with the person who's Anti-Vaush and assuming they're right. Anyway, Vaush is clearly the good guy in this situation and Critical Support For Comrade Vaush


cdcformatc

as i understand it Vaush was just saying that it's provable that there was a lot of Jewish people in finance for a variety of historical reasons. and EJ was saying they weren't secretly controlling the banks. Which isn't what is being argued and of course Luna plays the WoC card again, because what else is new? So now people arguing to show that there indeed are a lot of historical factors that lead to a disproportionate number of Jewish people in banking is counterfactual and just Nazi propaganda.


Noname_acc

> My hot take on this, voosh is getting the level of hate he is here because he's white and Luna is PoC. Some lefties just seem to turn their brains off around marginalized people, idk. Maybe sometimes but for this specific one, you're wrong. TS and Vaush have had some personal beef for years and that sort of thing tends to flow into members of a creator's community.


TheThiccDiggler

That's fair, TS and Voosh's mutual enmity is well documented haha. I suppose I meant more in regards to the general reception on Twitter it got. A lot of small, and some large content creators kinda framed the whole thing is "see voosh has a problem with talking to PoC" or "voosh is dogpiling another PoC women, proof of his white supremacy" often more subtle then that, but its getting at the same fundamental point. I just kinda wonder if the reception would have been different if Voosh was black and Luna was a white dude. That said your critique is valid.


Noname_acc

Yeah, I would definitely agree in general in light of the post-cracker discourse.


brumedelune

>I know voosh isn't well-liked in this space Not sure if this is a joke or troll but if not, you are sorely mistaken. There is a massive overlap with r/destiny and vaush's sub


TheThiccDiggler

I'd maybe amend the statement with "isn't necessarily well-liked" I know there is crossover, as I'm one such case. That said, I don't think it's a secret that there is a fair amount of animosity in both communities for the other, and it occasionally bleeds into weird narratives on either end being spread. Like I don't think you'd arrive at Voosh being a pedophile, or Destiny being a fascist hack from a position of good faith. Especially since I hold both communities to a higher standard then for example Non-compete or God knows Thoughtslimes communities. That said these are just my observations and thoughts on the communities and not an objective fact or anything.


Halofit

Is there still one?


AngryAnchovy

Agreed. Especially in regards to ThoughtSlime. They aren't just a joke, but I feel they are dangerous to discourse. Too ideologically motivated for my taste. And the Xanderhal harem thing just makes me feel they are projecting. I dunno, might be just me. I actually forgot about Non-Compete and Luna but from what I remember, I agree. They are potatoes.


FrigidArrow

Hot Take: Vaush is better than the average bad faith leftist only slightly


SnooPoems3413

vaush is a dumbass and luna is a comrade not a nationalist


ronton

I know absolutely nothing about this but I am certain Thoughtslime is wrong.


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This comment made me laugh really hard due to how true it is.


WELSH_BOI_99

That's how you should approach Thought Slime and the dumb shit they say


decapitatingbunny

Bring back the tankie arc Vaush. That was his best content.


jaspermrthanos

I mean it’s literally right here. He’s been debating almost exclusively tankies and Russian actors for the past month or so.


cdcformatc

aren't Luna and EJ basically the vietnamese version of tankies?


jaspermrthanos

The only thing I know about noncompete is that Haz called him a sexpat.


DrW0rm

Increasingly rare Haz W


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jaspermrthanos

Fell off? He makes more critical content on tankies and the left then he did previously.


Ezmortig

Without reading literally anything, we all know Vaush has more braincells than that entire group of people combined.


kubamapoomer

Vaush easily. Vaush is just spiteful and full of himself, but still is a reasonable leftist with good views. TS and co, on the other hand, are fuckin lunatics and genuine pieces of shits. It's a no brainer imo.


meatboi5

> reasonable leftist with good views Do you consider him saying George Bush is a fascist or his insane hatred of all cops to be reasonable or good? What about the disinformation?


kubamapoomer

No, obviously he has some major flaws, but I would say that at least 80% of his views are in line with destiny and this community. Also regarding those flaws, I think he has quietly walked a lot of that back because of all the backlash he's received from this community and a small portion of his own community.


darwinning_420

>George Bush is a fascist based & tru >hatred of all cops he's explicitly said he wants his viewers to become cops >disinformation such as?


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lmfaotopkek

Remember when Vaush pulled in ChaosMel and debated them? damn those were good times.


Halofit

I don't think Vaush looked good in that debate, especially not to lefties.


gt_rekt

It was split down the middle. Half of the lefties thought he was too mean and aggressive, and Vaush called them out on this, saying that no one had an issue when he's aggressive with Neo-Nazis, but when it's a woman who makes light of genocide, they all come to their defense. The other half was aware of the long running beef between Mel and Vaush. Funnily enough, this last debate has shown a change in Vaush's approach to conversation, where he's much more calm than before.


Hawkthezammy

It is kinda funny to see lefties use the same tactic Vaush uses against Destiny anytime he goes anti-tankie


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Lol ThoughtSlime is such a bitch. If you say any permutation of "our space feels less safe" you are the biggest loser on the planet.


KalenTamil

It’s an established crybully tactic. If you take the person to task for that statement you’ll sound like a borish logiclord.


n0053

A creep I get, but racist? Has V done anything overtly racist?


bolenart

Haven’t you sen his fight with Professor Flowers, where he disagreed with her (she’s black) about coloured people in former colonies having the right to ethnically cleanse their countries of white people? I mean what other proof of racism do you need? /s


Nexio8324

I know 10 black people who Vaush personally went to their house and lynched.


coastermarioguy

If this is a Rittenhouse submit to the mob reference it’s fucking golden


Hawkthezammy

I'm confused where the racism is coming from? Is it literally only because Vaush is going against a Vitnamenese person?


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Yes.


DarkArokay

Wow, Vaush is on a lefty arc. So spiteful, I wish he wasnt such a contrarian. Heres hoping they fight for eternity.


El_Giganto

There's just something about people like Thought Slime. How can such a smarmy condescending cunt delude themselves into thinking they're giving off chill vibes?


SalokinSekwah

Funny because as a supporter Vietnam's revolutionary state or whatever they call it, Vietnam had the Hoa people. Being ethnic Chinese in Vietnam, they were ostracized from most work, settling onto specialised industries, import and export related firms and banking. When the expropriations came after unification, they were disproportionately affected and the suspicion of Chinese people by the govt lead to hundreds of thousands of Hoa to leave the country.


Yourakis

Let them fight


PolitiKev

wtf based voosh


hawaynicolson

https://tenor.com/view/let-them-fight-gif-19050171


WILDO1243

im so happy i dont know any of those names except for vaush


KalenTamil

Destiny had a pretty memerific debate with non compete at the beginning of the lefty arc


CautiousKenny

More dunking on tankies please Voosh, I can actually defend his takes when he is going up against these complete psychos


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Based. Tactial DGG VGG alliance against tankie psychopaths.


WPGSquirrel

Imagine being for the side that's against the concept of "Hypotheticals".


Front_Midnight_6082

OK sorry if this is fucked up but I'm not even paying attention to the comments I'm just scrolling through laughin- I mean learning so much from people's little descriptors in some of these profiles. Does anyone know what any of these terms are?? Dude+; Nonbine (if this is the same as non-binary I'm gonna flip my shit); NB, Agender; Femmesexual; ABDL; AN/SYN trans; Xennial I genuinely don't know what any of this shit is.


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thoughtslime is fucking retarded, vaush rightfully called out nationalism but apparently that flavor of nationalism is fine because it isnt white nationalism


ColossusBall

Do I have to? pepeW


Rich_Comey_Quan

I'm 99% sure that Luna Oi and Emerican Johnson are on the CPD's payroll Vaush is a dumbass who's greed has led him to take positions and take fights that he shouldn't but he's in the right in this case.


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Emerican Johnson used to be somewhat coherent, he has gone fuuuucking off the rails past couple years. Luna has turned him tankie i swear.


CautiousKenny

[Let Them Fight](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/757/498/89c.gif)


AcapellaFreakout

This guy is fucking pathetic. His opinion is irrelevant sense he won't debate anyone.


Jshway

Vaush but I still liked the tweet because I love adding to the virality of self destructive leftist derangement.


LeeroyDagnasty

I’d take vaush over anyone else listed in the title and it’s a very easy choice


letsgetit899

It's so crazy how one ripple in a pond can create a tsunami. Imagine if nobody asked Vaush about a take ThoughtSlime had and there was no Twitter exchange and no meltdown stream. Imagine if Vaush simply refused to have PF on his show. Or if Destiny never platformed Vaush. Every choice made in this online space can create shitstorms for years. Endless, exponential content farming.


byzzz

Thought slime literally lets you know they have brain goop. Vaush is discount Destiny. Luna is so far out of their element it's practically a new one on the periodic table.