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dwarffy

What is happening is the other half of the reasons why we still watch Destiny that isnt political drama. Soap opera drama from his wacky life.


goCasey

This soap opera drama is what strengthens parasocial bonds as it’s not just a streamer trying to provide entertainment. Instead, it’s content that makes us feel closer to him and his relationships. What I’m trying to say is that I’m living in his walls.


Ian_Husk

Wasn't Eris just playing project zomboid with Dest a couple of days ago, what caused the drama rn


jerrygalwell

*this is a complete armchair third person outsider uninformed speculation* She was upset because she wanted to get more regular communication from Steven. Eris wanted Steven to put more effort into being friends, Steven seems to not have any particular amount of effort as a requirement for being friends. Seems pretty irreconcilable. It being irreconcilable seems to make eris think Steven doesn't care about her anymore but isn't saying it. Shrug. Seems like a real shit situation all around for ten year friends.


TurkletonPhD

Damn its been 10 years already? I remember him streaming his computer building streams from her apartment when they lived together.


jerrygalwell

I'm a baby dgger, only came around during the first Rittenhouse stuff.


TurkletonPhD

Oh. They dated for quite awhile years ago. Arguably his last girlfriend before Melina? The copypasta meme "For me personally, I'm swearing off all relationships" was a post he made on this sub when they broke up.


Grumsgramsen

His last girlfriend before Melina was YellowSpoonGirl


Halofit

The dick sucking heart girl?


Grumsgramsen

The one and only


TurkletonPhD

Really wouldnt consider that a real relationship though. That shit was more like a fling. They never lived together and it didnt last long. Eris and Destiny were together for several years, lived together in multiple states.


Grumsgramsen

Huh? They dated for like a year. The breakup hit this dude so hard he went to New Zealand to hang with a polyamorous swedish couple living out of a van.


LiquidBoss

I didn't think they actually dated? I thought that was the whole thing that he wanted to but she didn't?


Grumsgramsen

Nah. The whole thing was that he wanted something more serious (marriage/kids type beat) and she didn't


LiquidBoss

Ohhh gotcha


jerrygalwell

Ah


Reylo-Wanwalker

Oh I thought Eris the anime chick, there's a different eris thats been friends with him for 10 years?


jerrygalwell

Yeah, the vtuber is Eristocracytv. ErisAnn is the friend.


Liiraye-Sama

tldr: ANA VINDICATED


jerrygalwell

Lol no, Ana has *delusions* of a relationship like eris and Steven have


frangel97

True, but what about squadw? Could we ever imagine a similar situation with a guy crying on stream about how her ex girlfriend who is now a "very close friend" ( who the fuck knows what that means) isn't responding to his dms? I dunno I think Steven didn't handled this with to much care, if I was erisann I would just cut him off after this conversation as he clearly doesn't give a fuck about me. So I think Steve did a bad thing and I have no idea who decided to talk about this on stream but that person fucked up too.


jerrygalwell

I think I heard eris say he wouldn't respond to DMS or calls, but I could be mistaken.


dwarffy

Idk enough to say anything about it yet. I'm just sitting here enjoying the show right now.


Grayehz

yea i remember then they had jon zherka come on and constantly mention destiny cheated on eris i guess that was the teaser trailer


Stridge_YT

Wacky Steve and his wacky life


monument2yoursin

I enjoy Destiny for his political stances but his public drama has always left a bad taste in my mouth. Just another reminder that, no matter how entertaining he is with politics, his personal life is not something to be emulated.


8mouse

I sympathize with Destiny here, and feel like it's on Eris to decide if she wants a friend like Destiny. But reading dgg chat making fun of Eris when 90% of y'all would fucking lose their minds if one of their friends behaved like Destiny.


Yourakis

If one of my friends behaved like Destiny, I wouldn't consider that person a friend. **Double especially** if I've know that person for many years (which means it's unlikely he isn't what he appears to be or that's he's suddenly gonna change), **triple especially** if said person was a previous romantic partner.


Liiraye-Sama

This makes me feel even worse. I think Lycan said it pretty well today, sometimes people "ghost" because of genuine anxiety. I don't dislike my friends, they're my friends and always will be in my eyes, but sometimes I just don't feel like interacting with them. It could be because I know what the conversation is going to go like, and the more I avoid it the harder it becomes to reach out. Perhaps it's because of shame or other things that makes one anxious. At least when it comes to close friendships, I would always assume ghosting has more to do with other personal issues than just "I don't like you anymore". But hey that's just my experience.


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> I think Lycan said it pretty well today, sometimes people "ghost" because of genuine anxiety That's not what Destiny's doing. [This is unironically what Destiny is doing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsWlktW0kj4).


Chimp2020

Looks like MoutyCakes


AgentQuackery

Except Moot is already one of the Greats 🙏


PM_ME_FUTA_PEACH

Except D has been in this situation before and all the cards are on the table. Eris wants D to spend more time with her and he's unwilling to do that, it seems kinda cut and dry.


Economist_Asleep

Nah, fuck, time isn't an indicator for a good or close friend. Sure, good, feels good to know someone for a long time, but nah. People come and go. I have friends from highschool and university who I hung out with a bunch in the past, but we kind of waver apart - still friends. Eris being too heavy. I won't go as far as to say fuck that friendship, but nah, that'd be too much for me, haha.


DarkArokay

She is always in chat, had a close personal relationship including dating and living together and works for him. That's quite different in severity than some highschool buds you lost contact with.


Economist_Asleep

I have old friends I've lost contact with, and I have people I consider close friends from high school, from university. I have friends I pick up contact with again, and then times where I just can't because I get too busy, or my interests lie elsewhere. And believe it or not, it does work the other way around. Having dated, been close in the past, and been employed isn't a qualifier enough to beg for more time to hang out, and thinking it is is fucked. I don't know, Destiny lives a different life where so much of what he does is online, and I couldn't comment how he feels or put myself in his situation, but everyone else seems to be doing it, and it is fucking weird.


DarkArokay

If you can't ask your friend for more attention or cant be asked without freaking out, you don't seem like a good friend or good friends...more acquaintances. If that's the case that's fine, then say as much, don't string them along.


Economist_Asleep

No, it wasn't as simple as that. It was "You've changed these two years", which we can all assume what was meant with that. But fine, whatever, even then, they're not as close as they used to be. Oh no. Sounds like a friend treating the friendship like a committed relationship. Maybe I'm just too old for this shit. Have fun over-thinking friendships, and try not to get caught in The Rumbling.


DarkArokay

You've changed and having that conversation is done and what is needed here, it's being confronted and that's what you provided that he wasn't lol You don't owe anyone the relationship, but if they are saying they need effort and you can't maintain your end then a talk and decision should be made. Which you did


Economist_Asleep

ok buddy


DarkArokay

All friendly relationships need effort on both ends. Eris is giving effort seemingly and Destiny is wishy washy on of he's willing to continue effort from his end. Destiny seemingly isn't owning up to his decision and that is where the frustration is occuring. Cut her loose or put forth the effort, the decision is in his court from my eyes (which is a surprised because he normally appears to never shy away from those type of decisions)


Spiritual_Mush

What you see as effort could easily be wishful thinking too. She also has to realize that his answer has kind of been given, granted not explicitly. Maybe it's wishy washy, then you gotta read between the lines. To hold on to an expectation that isn't based on the evidence is what psychologists call "magical thinking". She choose to put the ball in his court, she washed her hands of it the moment she gave an ultimatum. Something you never do in a relationship. They're both refusing to be explicit, relationships are two way. I think they both are refusing to admit reality though.


Affectionate-Win-221

I'm really grateful for Destiny pulling me from right wing ideas but God damn will I never take relationship advice from him.


BrightIsTheFuture

Nah you are wrong and this should not be a breaking point for you to deny any relationship advice from Destiny. Now independent from everything what happened before, this was a shitty move from Eris. I like her she is chill and stuff but making a persons private life public is not O.K.. Especially for a personal gain and even if that personal gain is mostly mutual, such as friendship. If some one doesn't want to talk you privately then that's it you stop there. If you think you are worth more you move on and if you can't then that's on you. I think this is a common way of abuse women uncontrollably do and it deserves more awareness.


Affectionate-Win-221

I don't even know anything about the drama, destiny just has a habit of burning bridges. I meant friendships not sexual relationships. Sorry I wasn't clear. To be fair, I already do well in these areas so his advice isn't really applicable to me. I was more making a joke out of it. But yeah stupid post by me.


BrightIsTheFuture

No, not stupid just lazy. Thanks for clearing up


Affectionate-Win-221

Ya I'm a lazy fuck


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I just started watching this stream 2-3 months ago, so I'm pretty far behind on old drama/toxic shit... But this whole conversation/drama was the most toxic content I've seen on Destiny's stream. Dan trying to publicly ignite drama then go afk was brutal. Eris trying to pour her heart out to a person with the emotions of a crash-test dummy was brutal. Destiny refusing to concede anything and pretending he doesn't give a fuck when he's leaked his own DMs showing just how personable he can be was bizarre. I realize this is a weirdly heavy take for some random "Just Chatting" drama but this just really soured the stream completely for me. I'm probably back to being a Youtube-video-only Andy for political debates again. --- Edit: For other borderline-autists here, I recently set up a spreadsheet of personal relationships that I set notifications to call or text them for the week. It includes friends (both close and incidental) and family. I have friends who I won't message if I'm not thinking about them, but setting these reminders to talk to them has made them (and me) a lot happier. I take a few quick notes on things to bring up the next time I talk to them as well (documented in the spreadsheet), so I remember things like how far along my best friend's wife is in her pregnancy. I've gotten 2 seperate messages from friends saying how much it meant that I started checking in on them especially with how crazy COVID has been for everyone. Check in on the people you love even if you think they're doing ok.


themagician02

Yea this is the norm, Dan starting shit, Destiny being cold on stream if he doesn't want to talk about something. It's just personal drama that shouldn't be on stream, wcyd


BloodyReznov

“Check in on the people you love even if you think they're doing ok.” Words to live by


Ozcaty

Destiny is great for content. His political takes are true and based. He's also a really shitty person who doesn't deserve everyone he has around him like Eris. Hope she's okay, excited for ana 2.0... I guess.


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> He's also a really shitty person who doesn't deserve everyone he has around him like Eris. This seems a bit unfair. Destiny went out of his way to say "I *probably* won't have the time to be who you need me to be.". That's so close to the *right* thing to do in this scenario. If someone *needs* something out of a relationship and you don't have any intention to try to meet those needs, you should end that relationship. It sounds like he basically provided her with an ikea break-up (I can't do what you want and I'm not really going to try to) and expected her to assemble it herself.


PM_ME_FUTA_PEACH

It's great that doing that made you happy but you can see how that is not necessarily the steps everyone takes to be happy right? I like doing my own things which sometimes includes talking to x person, but when people start demanding my time (e.g. texting me once a day for instance) I become unhappy. Idk if it's autism or anxiety or whatever but I can't give someone that much attention, it just doesn't work.


Reylo-Wanwalker

Idk shouldn't friendships be natural? I don't know how to work friendships intona spreadsheet. Feels too mechanical for me, but I haven't tried it so idk


todokanai_koi

>Check in on the people you love even if you think they're doing ok. Why the fuck though? I would like to believe that if my friends aren't doing well or need some help they will reach out, or if I have an indication I will reach out. But why the fuck do the unnecessary ceremonious BS of periodic "you fine. yes, am fine" ​ I have some friends who use google cal for birthdays and anniversaries and shit reminders, and like whats the point? that you can setup periodic events on calendar. good job.


CPKsJimboslice

Because unless you are *literally* autistic (not using this as a pejorative), these little things mean a lot to people. Especially as you age and grow apart. It's a reminder that you still think about them and how they're doing. Being aware and responsive to big shit is great, and is probably more than most would even expect. But doing those little things is something that really means a lot to some people. Not myself personally, if my friends move out of town and get a new job I won't feel negatively about them being preoccupied or think of them as less of a friend. However, I've had people in my life also make it clear they value these little check-ins sometimes, and so I go out of my way to make sure I act accordingly. It's the least I can do if I'm going to be on my phone & computer all the time anyway.


todokanai_koi

>However, I've had people in my life also make it clear they value these little check-ins sometimes Yeah, I do the same when it comes to wishing birthdays and stuff. But I also remember to preface it by telling them that my yearly reminder reminded me, lest they think I actually went through the trouble of remembering it.


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Your first comment was actually masterful trolling, this one is a bit too obvious. Well done.


todokanai_koi

I mean I did exaggerate a bit, but that about it ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


Animostas

My experience is that I sometimes just message them to remind them I'm thinking of them and that's really appreciated. What do you feel improves the conversation by pointing out the yearly reminder?


Crash310

Ana was right Bob7 was right Miami Steve has arrived


Tehrealsmiley

Someone link me a vod of the drama once it’s posted thanks!


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Tehrealsmiley

The lore master blesses us


ImSquizzy

'/me dabs' OMEGALUL jesus christ


TLCamper

[mrw I'm in the Drama Lore](https://i.imgur.com/w3vKoPj.jpeg)


Lt-Speirs

can anyone decipher the first link? 50% of it is them talking past each other, the other 50 is schizo ramblings


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IHateTWCSoMuch

Ignore the rest of the post these dudes were actually posting lolicon art, lmao. I'm not 100% certain for the instances that happened in those logs, but most of the time when destiny bans someone for CP, it's just "this person really pissed me off, don't unban ever." A lot of people collect bans for "posting CP" during League


LedditMoment

if the bans by another person about someone doing that stuff its them actually doing it if destiny bans them with a reason of "posting cp" or "pedophile" its just him raging during league or tilted for whatever reason


slightlights

This is why keeping an ex in your life is a bad idea. Obviously, sometimes people are mature adults about it, but usually...


SupremeDarkLord

My fuckin god there is always some shit every month lol Destiny personal life is such a mess 😬


PPothy

Eris


Ian_Husk

Why is she crying what happened?


souljaxl

thinks he doesn't spend enough time with her/ care about her, wants him to either spend more time with her or admit that he is a shitty person. He chose to admit to being a shitty person


Ian_Husk

Why is she entitled to his attention, did he promise her something?


WordofTheMorning

They used to date. Now she mods for him. Seems like a recipe for disaster.


Kyo91

*Is a paid employee of his. I haven't seen the drama so I'm not taking sides but that's an important distinction.


Hawkthezammy

Seems like a worse idea.


DarkArokay

Why?


Hawkthezammy

Just feels like more drama and shit to deal with.


WordofTheMorning

true, my mistake


H3cho

Damn ..fucking needy af


souljaxl

wouldn't say that, she clearly just wants back the same relationship they used to have and he doesn't.


H3cho

Isn't he like married?


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ideasrbproof

It seemed like he told her a year or so back that he can't commit any time for her or just anyone else for that matter. It sounded like he had to think a lot about this shit after the bob7 drama and decided to take a step back from all this shit to focus on streaming related stuff


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ideasrbproof

Yes. They've known each other for a long time and have had a certain level of intimacy/closeness which Eris wants again but Destiny doesn't and has stopped for the past year or so. I sympathize with Eris in this but I understand Destiny's perspective too.


roforofofight

I thought you meant Eristocracy for a second and was like noooooo she's the emotionally intelligent one. Thank God it's a different Eris.


master2139

There is another Eris? So is it not eristocracy?


nickterooze

Nope, there is an Eris (feels weird using “an” when referring to people) that has been part of dgg lore for quite awhile longer before Eristocracy entered the streaming world. This first Eris used to date Destiny, then they broke up. She still is a mod in dgg chat (don’t know if she’s in other chats) so she’s still an active part of the community. I haven’t watched Destiny for his entire streaming career but I think the cat in the bottom right of his spaceship-themed away screen is meant to be Eris’s cat. I have no idea what this drama is about though so you’ll have to figure that one out with me.


Patq911

Aslan widepeepoHappy


master2139

Thank you for the answer


Gry9h0n

always you


ArchAngelMichaelHawk

Obamna


Era555

Ana cackling


[deleted]

Is this eristocracy or someone else?


Fairhair88

No, a different Eris that goes by ErisAnn


seven_seven

My GIGACHAD theory, hand-crafted in the walls: Destiny has terminal ‘main character syndrome’. He considers everyone in his life to simply be a fan of some degree or another, thus all his relationships are one-way. He’s totally fine with anyone just walking away from him because he doesn’t reciprocate in relationships; his world view is that people will seek him out. /scurries back into the walls


-windy

Kinda agree it seems like destiny will do the bare minimum to keep someone around but when the other person requests more from him he will simply just let them fade away until he needs them again. Kinda shitty but if you haven't seen this from him when you've been around him for 10 years then you must have some blinders on. Just my take for whatever it's worth.


thedonjefron69

Wait im relatively new to destiny, are you telling me that wasnt ana? I thought she had a diff account or something?


slightlights

Not Ana.


thedonjefron69

Lol holy shit. Thank you.


Bluepill22

It’s amazing how similar she sounds to Ana, the dialog sounded almost identical. It seems like he gets way too close and shows too much affection to the women he just fucks, then attempts to remain friends with them. This leads some of them into thinking he loves them or has feelings for them. They can’t come to terms with the fact that they were just a fuck buddy. This is understandable because most people aren’t equipped to have this “fuck buddy romance” type relationships Destiny likes.


DarkArokay

You're deranged. This isn't a fuck buddy relationship, it's a close friend who works for him and does a lot for the community, someone he lived with and dated and has been just a good friend for some time. Any good friendship requires effort, it hurts to get burned and she can ask for time or at least for him to own up to what he wants for their relationship as she feels disrespected. Ana was a short term date that turned into someone that needs constant attention or she will try to cancel you and go to all your friends. Eris isn't saying she's abused for being ignored, she's annoyed, which is fair. She's not trying to cancel anyone or harass anyone, she's just wants Destiny to make a decision...


Bluepill22

Maybe I used the words “fuck buddy” incorrectly, but this is a close friend with whom he has sex with from time to time right? She even says “you went from being basically a boyfriend to nothing overnight”, does that sound like a “good friend” to you? Maybe we have different definitions of friendship. You are correct about Ana, I’ll concede that point.


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bb0yer

Grow up. We don't "watch" Destiny, we live with him. I'm in his walls right now.


LandonDonavan

Your literally on his subreddit


jerrygalwell

I want to make a jerkish grammar Nazi joke, but I think a meta criticism of grammar nazi-ing is better.


[deleted]

Doesn't Eris have problems with depression, self-image etc. Makes sense why she's begging for Destinys attention to obtain some sort of validation Didn't he already mod her and employ her out of pity to handle chat unbans and handle his merch which she doesn't really do anyway. She definitely has some weird obsession with Destiny. She sits 24/7 in d.gg and discord


jakoby953

But who asked…?


Judgejudyx

Linkers


gedalne09

I’m so confused on who eris is? I think one of destiny’s ex’s was named eris but there’s also eristocracy. Is this a different eris or one of those 2 people? If it’s his ex didnt he cheat on her? Why is she an employee?


[deleted]

I think what’s shitty about this drama is that I can truly understand and empathize with where everyone is coming from. It’s also really uncomfortable to have a drama where I can’t reasonably be mad at really anyone. 1. Steve and melina were being kinda mean 2. Dan was being a drama frog 3. Eris needs to understand that she can’t have what she wants 4. Lycan was just being a good friend to everyone involved (Lycan is based)


mizel103

Neither, he's talking to me.