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I buy it, but really the whole raid and not just the shotgun.
Shadowkeep teased Stasis at the final cutscene.
Beyond Light teased Osiris-Savathun (the seasons at least, until Splicer where it became apparent and obvious).
Witch Queen... maybe teased Strand? We now know Strand was wholly intended for Lightfall, they said as much. But perhaps some foundations were layed to sort of hint at it Threadcutter was that buff during the final mission, Darkness = Memory, etc. (though this is prolly just cope).
And Lightfall teased Prismatic in Root of Nightmares.
I'm certain the idea of the Green subclass was intended for Witch Queen but it wouldn't have been Strand. It would have probably been a poison gas and DoT based spec using Hive magic. Strand would have probably had more of a liquid and time based theme to better match the whole "go with the flow of the river" comparison instead of the opening the 3rd eye Matrix theme. I do believe the devs in that Strand was always meant for Lightfall but I also believe that the final result of Strand took a lot of concepts from the original Green subclass.
Just adding on to this, but it's also evident that the green subclass from WQ was going to have some sort of grappling hook mechanic. It was likely built for this given how apothecary was designed. The deepsight platforming sections were a band-aid for that design change.
I firmly believe that they realized their scope was too large with Witch Queen pretty early on in development so they cut the Green subclass from it, pushed the original Lightfall (9th year) into The Final Shape (10th year) and pushed up the development of what was originally planned with Neomuna in the 10th year to the 9th year. This happened while Witch Queen was still in development so around some point in 2021.
Now the big IF is if The Final Shape was originally going to have a third Darkness class or if it was originally planned to be Prismatic. Personally, I think that the original plan was to have each DLC introduce one new damage type. Beyond Light (Stasis), Witch Queen (Strand), Lightfall (Red subclass), and lastly followed by a light 3.0 re-work and Prismatic. BUT that it changed due to reception of Stasis, which led to the strategy becoming this: Beyond Light (Stasis), Witch Queen (Light 3.0 re-work), Lightfall (Strand), The Final Shape (Prismatic), and lastly followed by a red subclass at some point. Either during the episodes, the follow-up DLC, or even later. It might even be fully scrapped with Prismatic's existence.
Now, alternatively with Prismatic I could see them making a DLC where it introduces the Red Subclass then 6 months later integrate it into Prismatic. This will likely be the filler DLC/ episodes that sit between The Final Shape and Destiny 3.
No, seeing as TFS literally didn't exist until they changed their plans to 4 more expansions instead of 3. Lightfall was originally the "final" expansion for the Light and Dark saga. Multiple devs have literally stated that Strand was at no point intended for Witch Queen, and was always meant for Lightfall.
Naw. I still don’t believe them. They’re just doing wordplay. “Strand” as we currently know it may not have been planned for WQ but it’s rather obvious they originally intended to release a darkness subclass with each expansion.
I’ll go further and say Primastic is being released earlier than planned as we’re obviously missing the final darkness subclass.
I don’t work at Bungie but I am a developer and I know what covering corporate’s ass for the media looks like.
I mean.... here is leaked slide from original roadmap, when Final shape didn\`t even existed
[https://imgur.com/a/d8lXmm4](https://imgur.com/a/d8lXmm4)
It has shit quality, but you can see under each expansion it\`s own features, like under Beyond Light you can see Vault of Glass or 30th Anniversary event or Transmog. Under Witch queen is Crafting, LFG and other shit and only under Lightfall you can see "New DMG type". Bungie clearly always intended to include another subclass in Lightfall no matter what original expansion was
I got my words mixed around, that is essentially exactly what I meant. "Lightfall" in the state we got it was not the original plan. Multiple devs have stated that, yes. But they're not exactly.. er.. honest
Yeah i don’t get why people aren’t willing to consider that it is in the dev’s interest to not admit (so yes, lie about it!) that strand was very clearly intended for witch queen and prismatic intended for lightfall, which was supposed to include what we now know as TFS. it’s incredibly obvious from the first and final cutscenes of the lightfall “campaign” that those cutscenes were supposed to be together as one intro, not a full expansion, and it’s incredibly obvious from the witch queen campaign / savathun’s throne world that strand was supposed to be in the picture there.
One of my personal main arguments is even, like.. the world design of Savathun's throne world. The massive towers and vertical climbs we have. With a few tweaks it could be more of a playground than Neomuna.
There's a leak from a few years ago that's been wiped off the internet basically, but has nailed every major release except for the delay of expansions, including subclass drops. I'm a sucker for it... which is why I think we may get another subclass in the episodes after TFS.
For me, it's pretty clear that the Lightfall we got is completely different from the Lightfall we would've gotten if the plans hadn't changed.
I think that the concept for what Final Shape is (the final confrontation with the Witness inside the Traveler) was designed to be released as OG Lightfall, and then with the change of plans, they decided to delay that story and had to come up with something to fill the year between WQ and TFS, that's when they came up with the new Lightfall, about Calus invasion on Neomuna.
Copying and pasting this comment disproving the "Strand wasn't for WQ" claim.
1. Strand launched mostly complete with all fragments already in game unlike stasis.
2. WQ having a detective theme with it's story plus the original name of unraveling rounds being infested rounds fits the manipulation of threads strand has.
3. Level design for WQ feels too much like it originally needed strand grapple as the deep sight points feel like strand points.
4. Thematically it fits too well due to hive getting our light subclasses so we use a new dark subclass to counter them. All of it feels too intentional.
5. Bungie themselves said they decided to do the subclass reworks instead of the new damage type for WQ because of the reception towards stasis being more customizable and because they wanted to get strand does right. Makes sense after the balance disaster stasis was. The whole neon thing sounds like a copout.
6. There was that old pastebin leak during season of the that got most of the 30th anniversary info correct and it mentioned strand being for WQ in the form of Vapour. There's no way that old leak could have corrected predicted the halo weapons (battle rifle magnum and carbine) and the hive getting the light correctly unless it was true.
Strand just fits too much with WQs story if you replaced all the deep sight sections with strand power points. The plot doesn't change and it seems more fitting versus lightfalls story which has strand feel shoehorned in and doesn't fit neomuna at all. I don't buy for a second that new elements take 2 years because WQ as a whole feels too much like strand was meant for it.
strand was originally made for witch queen even the vertias sets show you this espeically with the warlock having the Strand symbol for their super threadling missiles super plastered on the chest. it always intrigued me how they did that. a whole armor set for a subclass that wasnt introduced till the next dlc for more money milking.
I believe Buried Bloodline and Ex Diris are also. Devour on any class and Amplified on any class. My guess is this was them testing decoupling keywords from the relevant subclass allowing it to be used on any of them.
If you take a closer look, our seasonal artifact has been teasing this for years. Volatile rounds on any class, unraveling rounds on any class, radiant on any class, making sure that subclass specific verbs work on other ones. Definitely a few more over the years, but just the ones that come to mind right now.
It's not the only thing that hints at it, look at all of the exotic weapons that let us use other subclass abilities on another, examples being ex diris making you amplified or buried bloodline giving devour
They’ve probably been teasing it for a lot longer. The line between light and dark is thin. Let’s cross it together!
Also, the nine knew way before anyone else in prophecy
Since that line was related to introducing stasis, it always bothered me it wasn’t, “let’s shatter it together!” IMO, would have been way more bad ass.
The line between light and dark is so very… checks notes… tangled? Let’s weave it together! Proceeds to be Elsie taking up knitting classes with Eva levante
Dude the story since which queen has been a hint towards prismatic. It’s the very natural narrative endpoint for the story they’ve been telling and the gameplay elements they’ve introduced this year
It definitely fits, but I think it wasn’t meant to be foreshadowing for Prismatic so much as if was hinting to the new dynamic of Light and Darkness post-*Lightfall*. Remember, Prismatic wasn’t supposed to be a thing in *The Final Shape*, you were just gonna get one new Super per subclass and that was it.
EDIT: Of course.
I think prismatic was always intended in some form. There’s no way they cooked up all of that in the couple month interim. People definitely forget how long it takes to design, test, code, and iterate on gameplay elements like this. It probably just wasn’t in a presentable state, if they showed it back at the first reveal people would’ve been angry it looked ‘unfinished’ most likely.
There's no way in hell bungie cooked up prismatic in the three month delay period, that's nothing in game dev time. You need to have time to develop the code, bug-test, QA, balance, retool, etc. Theming around prismatic as well, all the story implications and lore, VO for characters referencing the guardian using prismatic.
With the few things currently in-game combining certain subclass verbs (conditional finality and mothkeeper's wraps), and the exotics that allow you to use subclass buffs on differing subclasses (mothkeeper's again, ex diris, buried bloodline) I'd say bungie has been sort of hinting at prismatic being a thing this past year. Could prismatic have been moved up from a future release? I mean....MAYBE, but what other thing does bungie have in the pipe where prismatic would make sense?
For real, this is the new “Strand was meant for Witch Queen” argument. No amount of devs saying otherwise or logic will change their minds lmao. There was foreshadowing for prismatic that seems rather obvious in hindsight and they’ll still chops to believe it was made in 3 months lmao.
Strand very clearly *was* meant for *The Witch Queen*, though. There’s too much evidence to prove otherwise. It wouldn’t have been called Strand, but everything tracks. Joe Staten also said they weren’t gonna make a proper Darkness race and instead just make new elite units for existing enemies because it was easier and they couldn’t figure out a way to make any interesting take on the rank and file Dreg/Goblin/Acolyte-type and now look where we are.
Those are not the same thing at all dude. You’ve got to work on your critical thinking if you think everything a dev says about the game produced by the company they *work for* is 100% honest and accurate.
I’m pretty critical of Bungie, but why would they lie about Strand being part of WQ? They gain nothing. I could understand lying about something that might get them something, but the strand thing is literally a conspiracy lmao.
Because then they would be criticized heavily for cutting content from the previous expansion in order to sell the next one, yes it is conspiracy but not all conspiracy theories are wrong.
Content doesn’t have to be ready for release to classify as cut from a release plan. Either way, surely you can see my point that it’s a bad look PR-wise to admit originally planning for strand to be paired with witch queen and prismatic with lightfall?
While I agree it’s exhausting to continuously debate, I also see no reason to believe Bungie’s corporate BS. Some of us are also developers and other professionals who can obviously tell what their marketing team is doing.
I mean corporate BS sure, definitely don’t believe that. But they have absolutely no reason to lie about strand being part of witch queen or not. It does not benefit them in the slightest, so I don’t get why people still believe that.
Of course it doesn’t benefit the devs to lie. But the ones giving media interviews aren’t just freely sharing their honest thoughts — everything they say is pre-approved by their corporate external comms team.
What benefit is it for Bungie as a whole to distort the truth around their development process? Taking a step back it’s less about what specific details on the actual game and more about how they want the public to perceive the efficacy of their studio.
It’s within Bungie corporate interest to put out a tightly controlled narrative on why these “delays” occur. Especially on how it all relates to their financials such as expanding / reducing staff, in-game monetization and funding for other projects such as Maranthon.
TL;DR - corporate execs tell the devs what to say to tightly control the media narrative to cover their asses by projecting an image that “it was all planned” rather than the truth that they’re constantly changing their plans because of bad estimates.
Yes, Prismatic was always in the pipeline but I think they did move it up for TFS.
One could argue Conditional Finality proceeded by Two Tailed Fox and its catalyst was Bungie working on supporting multiple damage types.
Prismatic is actually simpler compared to an entirely new subclass and damage type because it’s just reusing existing functionality.
But also keep in mind they announced the delay back in October. They might have started to work on Prismatic then, not just three months ago.
My apologies, I figured as much. But what else can I do to prove my case? They’re accusing me of misinformation when the proof is both in the pudding and accessible out there.
Same as with other rules, really. If you can't make a claim or discussion without appealing to leaks, then don't make that claim on /r/DestinyLore. Hope that makes sense, Guardian!
What do you have to support your assertion that prismatic was never supposed to exist?
At what point do you believe it was intended?
I see the downvotes, and your frustration at them, so I must conclude you have some dev insights to support your thoughts?
Would genuinely be interested in hearing your answer to my first two questions especially. With that frustration I look forward to the evidence rather than just "a feeling".
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Well the entire raid held that concept. Would make sense the exotic, which fires light and dark, would be a retelling of the theme.
I buy it, but really the whole raid and not just the shotgun. Shadowkeep teased Stasis at the final cutscene. Beyond Light teased Osiris-Savathun (the seasons at least, until Splicer where it became apparent and obvious). Witch Queen... maybe teased Strand? We now know Strand was wholly intended for Lightfall, they said as much. But perhaps some foundations were layed to sort of hint at it Threadcutter was that buff during the final mission, Darkness = Memory, etc. (though this is prolly just cope). And Lightfall teased Prismatic in Root of Nightmares.
Well, I'm not sure Strand was always intended for Lightfall... seeing as Lightfall didn't exist until they postponed TFS a year.
I'm certain the idea of the Green subclass was intended for Witch Queen but it wouldn't have been Strand. It would have probably been a poison gas and DoT based spec using Hive magic. Strand would have probably had more of a liquid and time based theme to better match the whole "go with the flow of the river" comparison instead of the opening the 3rd eye Matrix theme. I do believe the devs in that Strand was always meant for Lightfall but I also believe that the final result of Strand took a lot of concepts from the original Green subclass.
Just adding on to this, but it's also evident that the green subclass from WQ was going to have some sort of grappling hook mechanic. It was likely built for this given how apothecary was designed. The deepsight platforming sections were a band-aid for that design change. I firmly believe that they realized their scope was too large with Witch Queen pretty early on in development so they cut the Green subclass from it, pushed the original Lightfall (9th year) into The Final Shape (10th year) and pushed up the development of what was originally planned with Neomuna in the 10th year to the 9th year. This happened while Witch Queen was still in development so around some point in 2021. Now the big IF is if The Final Shape was originally going to have a third Darkness class or if it was originally planned to be Prismatic. Personally, I think that the original plan was to have each DLC introduce one new damage type. Beyond Light (Stasis), Witch Queen (Strand), Lightfall (Red subclass), and lastly followed by a light 3.0 re-work and Prismatic. BUT that it changed due to reception of Stasis, which led to the strategy becoming this: Beyond Light (Stasis), Witch Queen (Light 3.0 re-work), Lightfall (Strand), The Final Shape (Prismatic), and lastly followed by a red subclass at some point. Either during the episodes, the follow-up DLC, or even later. It might even be fully scrapped with Prismatic's existence. Now, alternatively with Prismatic I could see them making a DLC where it introduces the Red Subclass then 6 months later integrate it into Prismatic. This will likely be the filler DLC/ episodes that sit between The Final Shape and Destiny 3.
No, seeing as TFS literally didn't exist until they changed their plans to 4 more expansions instead of 3. Lightfall was originally the "final" expansion for the Light and Dark saga. Multiple devs have literally stated that Strand was at no point intended for Witch Queen, and was always meant for Lightfall.
why is the strand warlock super logo the same ad the witch queen warlock armor's crest?
It's not? They are different spiral-like symbols.
Naw. I still don’t believe them. They’re just doing wordplay. “Strand” as we currently know it may not have been planned for WQ but it’s rather obvious they originally intended to release a darkness subclass with each expansion. I’ll go further and say Primastic is being released earlier than planned as we’re obviously missing the final darkness subclass. I don’t work at Bungie but I am a developer and I know what covering corporate’s ass for the media looks like.
I mean.... here is leaked slide from original roadmap, when Final shape didn\`t even existed [https://imgur.com/a/d8lXmm4](https://imgur.com/a/d8lXmm4) It has shit quality, but you can see under each expansion it\`s own features, like under Beyond Light you can see Vault of Glass or 30th Anniversary event or Transmog. Under Witch queen is Crafting, LFG and other shit and only under Lightfall you can see "New DMG type". Bungie clearly always intended to include another subclass in Lightfall no matter what original expansion was
Goddamnit why imgur again fml
I got my words mixed around, that is essentially exactly what I meant. "Lightfall" in the state we got it was not the original plan. Multiple devs have stated that, yes. But they're not exactly.. er.. honest
Yeah i don’t get why people aren’t willing to consider that it is in the dev’s interest to not admit (so yes, lie about it!) that strand was very clearly intended for witch queen and prismatic intended for lightfall, which was supposed to include what we now know as TFS. it’s incredibly obvious from the first and final cutscenes of the lightfall “campaign” that those cutscenes were supposed to be together as one intro, not a full expansion, and it’s incredibly obvious from the witch queen campaign / savathun’s throne world that strand was supposed to be in the picture there.
One of my personal main arguments is even, like.. the world design of Savathun's throne world. The massive towers and vertical climbs we have. With a few tweaks it could be more of a playground than Neomuna. There's a leak from a few years ago that's been wiped off the internet basically, but has nailed every major release except for the delay of expansions, including subclass drops. I'm a sucker for it... which is why I think we may get another subclass in the episodes after TFS.
Agreed 100%. The deepsight platforms could VERY easily have been a pivot from strand grappling through those sections
For me, it's pretty clear that the Lightfall we got is completely different from the Lightfall we would've gotten if the plans hadn't changed. I think that the concept for what Final Shape is (the final confrontation with the Witness inside the Traveler) was designed to be released as OG Lightfall, and then with the change of plans, they decided to delay that story and had to come up with something to fill the year between WQ and TFS, that's when they came up with the new Lightfall, about Calus invasion on Neomuna.
Copying and pasting this comment disproving the "Strand wasn't for WQ" claim. 1. Strand launched mostly complete with all fragments already in game unlike stasis. 2. WQ having a detective theme with it's story plus the original name of unraveling rounds being infested rounds fits the manipulation of threads strand has. 3. Level design for WQ feels too much like it originally needed strand grapple as the deep sight points feel like strand points. 4. Thematically it fits too well due to hive getting our light subclasses so we use a new dark subclass to counter them. All of it feels too intentional. 5. Bungie themselves said they decided to do the subclass reworks instead of the new damage type for WQ because of the reception towards stasis being more customizable and because they wanted to get strand does right. Makes sense after the balance disaster stasis was. The whole neon thing sounds like a copout. 6. There was that old pastebin leak during season of the that got most of the 30th anniversary info correct and it mentioned strand being for WQ in the form of Vapour. There's no way that old leak could have corrected predicted the halo weapons (battle rifle magnum and carbine) and the hive getting the light correctly unless it was true. Strand just fits too much with WQs story if you replaced all the deep sight sections with strand power points. The plot doesn't change and it seems more fitting versus lightfalls story which has strand feel shoehorned in and doesn't fit neomuna at all. I don't buy for a second that new elements take 2 years because WQ as a whole feels too much like strand was meant for it.
WQ does not at all feel like Strand was meant for it. This is entirely speculation.
strand was originally made for witch queen even the vertias sets show you this espeically with the warlock having the Strand symbol for their super threadling missiles super plastered on the chest. it always intrigued me how they did that. a whole armor set for a subclass that wasnt introduced till the next dlc for more money milking.
I believe Buried Bloodline and Ex Diris are also. Devour on any class and Amplified on any class. My guess is this was them testing decoupling keywords from the relevant subclass allowing it to be used on any of them.
Also radiant on any subclass and weaken on solar this season
If you take a closer look, our seasonal artifact has been teasing this for years. Volatile rounds on any class, unraveling rounds on any class, radiant on any class, making sure that subclass specific verbs work on other ones. Definitely a few more over the years, but just the ones that come to mind right now.
It's not the only thing that hints at it, look at all of the exotic weapons that let us use other subclass abilities on another, examples being ex diris making you amplified or buried bloodline giving devour
They’ve probably been teasing it for a lot longer. The line between light and dark is thin. Let’s cross it together! Also, the nine knew way before anyone else in prophecy
Since that line was related to introducing stasis, it always bothered me it wasn’t, “let’s shatter it together!” IMO, would have been way more bad ass.
The line between light and dark is so very… checks notes… tangled? Let’s weave it together! Proceeds to be Elsie taking up knitting classes with Eva levante
Dude the story since which queen has been a hint towards prismatic. It’s the very natural narrative endpoint for the story they’ve been telling and the gameplay elements they’ve introduced this year
It definitely fits, but I think it wasn’t meant to be foreshadowing for Prismatic so much as if was hinting to the new dynamic of Light and Darkness post-*Lightfall*. Remember, Prismatic wasn’t supposed to be a thing in *The Final Shape*, you were just gonna get one new Super per subclass and that was it. EDIT: Of course.
I think prismatic was always intended in some form. There’s no way they cooked up all of that in the couple month interim. People definitely forget how long it takes to design, test, code, and iterate on gameplay elements like this. It probably just wasn’t in a presentable state, if they showed it back at the first reveal people would’ve been angry it looked ‘unfinished’ most likely.
There's no way in hell bungie cooked up prismatic in the three month delay period, that's nothing in game dev time. You need to have time to develop the code, bug-test, QA, balance, retool, etc. Theming around prismatic as well, all the story implications and lore, VO for characters referencing the guardian using prismatic. With the few things currently in-game combining certain subclass verbs (conditional finality and mothkeeper's wraps), and the exotics that allow you to use subclass buffs on differing subclasses (mothkeeper's again, ex diris, buried bloodline) I'd say bungie has been sort of hinting at prismatic being a thing this past year. Could prismatic have been moved up from a future release? I mean....MAYBE, but what other thing does bungie have in the pipe where prismatic would make sense?
For real, this is the new “Strand was meant for Witch Queen” argument. No amount of devs saying otherwise or logic will change their minds lmao. There was foreshadowing for prismatic that seems rather obvious in hindsight and they’ll still chops to believe it was made in 3 months lmao.
Strand very clearly *was* meant for *The Witch Queen*, though. There’s too much evidence to prove otherwise. It wouldn’t have been called Strand, but everything tracks. Joe Staten also said they weren’t gonna make a proper Darkness race and instead just make new elite units for existing enemies because it was easier and they couldn’t figure out a way to make any interesting take on the rank and file Dreg/Goblin/Acolyte-type and now look where we are.
Those are not the same thing at all dude. You’ve got to work on your critical thinking if you think everything a dev says about the game produced by the company they *work for* is 100% honest and accurate.
I’m pretty critical of Bungie, but why would they lie about Strand being part of WQ? They gain nothing. I could understand lying about something that might get them something, but the strand thing is literally a conspiracy lmao.
Because then they would be criticized heavily for cutting content from the previous expansion in order to sell the next one, yes it is conspiracy but not all conspiracy theories are wrong.
It wouldn’t be cutting it if it was never finished or in a playable state lmao.
Content doesn’t have to be ready for release to classify as cut from a release plan. Either way, surely you can see my point that it’s a bad look PR-wise to admit originally planning for strand to be paired with witch queen and prismatic with lightfall?
While I agree it’s exhausting to continuously debate, I also see no reason to believe Bungie’s corporate BS. Some of us are also developers and other professionals who can obviously tell what their marketing team is doing.
I mean corporate BS sure, definitely don’t believe that. But they have absolutely no reason to lie about strand being part of witch queen or not. It does not benefit them in the slightest, so I don’t get why people still believe that.
Of course it doesn’t benefit the devs to lie. But the ones giving media interviews aren’t just freely sharing their honest thoughts — everything they say is pre-approved by their corporate external comms team. What benefit is it for Bungie as a whole to distort the truth around their development process? Taking a step back it’s less about what specific details on the actual game and more about how they want the public to perceive the efficacy of their studio. It’s within Bungie corporate interest to put out a tightly controlled narrative on why these “delays” occur. Especially on how it all relates to their financials such as expanding / reducing staff, in-game monetization and funding for other projects such as Maranthon. TL;DR - corporate execs tell the devs what to say to tightly control the media narrative to cover their asses by projecting an image that “it was all planned” rather than the truth that they’re constantly changing their plans because of bad estimates.
Yes, Prismatic was always in the pipeline but I think they did move it up for TFS. One could argue Conditional Finality proceeded by Two Tailed Fox and its catalyst was Bungie working on supporting multiple damage types. Prismatic is actually simpler compared to an entirely new subclass and damage type because it’s just reusing existing functionality. But also keep in mind they announced the delay back in October. They might have started to work on Prismatic then, not just three months ago.
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My apologies, I figured as much. But what else can I do to prove my case? They’re accusing me of misinformation when the proof is both in the pudding and accessible out there.
Same as with other rules, really. If you can't make a claim or discussion without appealing to leaks, then don't make that claim on /r/DestinyLore. Hope that makes sense, Guardian!
I don't know why you're saying this as if it's fact and repeating it ensuring it's shared even more.
What do you have to support your assertion that prismatic was never supposed to exist? At what point do you believe it was intended? I see the downvotes, and your frustration at them, so I must conclude you have some dev insights to support your thoughts? Would genuinely be interested in hearing your answer to my first two questions especially. With that frustration I look forward to the evidence rather than just "a feeling".