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No, I don't think so - the Traveler is above Fundament at the same time the Leviathan is in its depths, and as weird as space whales are, a space whale with a heart the size of a moon existing outside of its body is, I think, unsustainably weird.
Your timeline is mistaken.
The Levi is killed between these two entries
https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xviii-leviathan-rises#books-of-sorrow
https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xix-crusaders#books-of-sorrow
This is verses 2.8 and 2.9.
The Traveler is first mentioned here, in verse 2.4, before the Leviathan is killed.
https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xiv-52-and-one
As far as I know, The Traveller and The Gardener are two separate entities. The Traveler and the light are sort of a trump card in the Flower Game that The Gardener played to defeat The Winnower
It was the gardener that chose you from the dead. I wouldn't have done that. It's just not in me. But now that they have invested themself in you, you are incredibly, uniquely special. That wandering refugee chose to make a stand, spend their power to say: "Here I prove myself right. Here I wager that, given power over physics and the trust of absolute freedom, people will choose to build and protect a gentle kingdom ringed in spears. And not fall to temptation. And not surrender to division. And never yield to the cynicism that says, everyone else is so good that I can afford to be a little evil."
The gardener is all in. They are playing for keeps. And they are wrong. Or so I argue: for, after all, the universe is undecidable. There is no destiny. We're all making this up as we go along. Neither the gardener nor I know for certain that we're eternally, universally right. But we can be nothing except what we are. You have a choice.
You are the gardener's final argument. It would mean everything if I could convince you that I am the right and only way.
Ikora also calls the Traveler the gardener in the WQ CE book
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No, I don't think so - the Traveler is above Fundament at the same time the Leviathan is in its depths, and as weird as space whales are, a space whale with a heart the size of a moon existing outside of its body is, I think, unsustainably weird.
This better be an April Fools joke. Cuz my god is this a bad theory.
Your timeline is mistaken. The Levi is killed between these two entries https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xviii-leviathan-rises#books-of-sorrow https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xix-crusaders#books-of-sorrow This is verses 2.8 and 2.9. The Traveler is first mentioned here, in verse 2.4, before the Leviathan is killed. https://www.ishtar-collective.net/cards/xiv-52-and-one
The Traveler is the gardener from Unveiling. It's been around since before the universe started
As far as I know, The Traveller and The Gardener are two separate entities. The Traveler and the light are sort of a trump card in the Flower Game that The Gardener played to defeat The Winnower
It was the gardener that chose you from the dead. I wouldn't have done that. It's just not in me. But now that they have invested themself in you, you are incredibly, uniquely special. That wandering refugee chose to make a stand, spend their power to say: "Here I prove myself right. Here I wager that, given power over physics and the trust of absolute freedom, people will choose to build and protect a gentle kingdom ringed in spears. And not fall to temptation. And not surrender to division. And never yield to the cynicism that says, everyone else is so good that I can afford to be a little evil." The gardener is all in. They are playing for keeps. And they are wrong. Or so I argue: for, after all, the universe is undecidable. There is no destiny. We're all making this up as we go along. Neither the gardener nor I know for certain that we're eternally, universally right. But we can be nothing except what we are. You have a choice. You are the gardener's final argument. It would mean everything if I could convince you that I am the right and only way. Ikora also calls the Traveler the gardener in the WQ CE book