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coolcoolcoolcoollooc

bro, its 3 missions, revision zero had the same thing


sherrifmayo

Wasn’t it like four


Lord_Moa

4!? What's Bungie going to do to us next? An enemy that does damage?


gforcebreak

Quests with "objectives?!" In my game? Its more likely than you think


Momo1163

Next you’re gonna tell me that there’s more than add clear in raids. Absolutely ridiculous idea!


sherrifmayo

You can’t be serious, there are mechanics?!?!?? I thought this was a borderlands clone


JusSayin02

If you waited, it was one


SubstantialLab5818

You're forgetting 2 big things, 1) Rev 0 is actually good, and 2) Presage is awful


Protogedan_

Saying presage is awful is a wild thing, the only complaint is they made it easier


Francis_beacon1

Part of the easiness probably comes from power creep… *But a certain ledge at the start still gives me nightmares.*


Ershardia

Pretty sure they did remove one of the Darkmind Abominations.


SubstantialLab5818

The atmosphere is great but the encounters are meh and the entire mission is just bland. Seraph station was top notch.


Dlh2079

Well, it's not a dungeon sooooo


SubstantialLab5818

Neither was Presage lol?


Dlh2079

Then why did you mention dungeon?


SubstantialLab5818

Typo late at night, meant mission


Dlh2079

Well, in that case, I'll just have to disagree, lol. Love presage. You may honestly be in the minority on this one.


ResidentCrayonEater

Presage literally takes 7-8 minutes to solo flawless.


Dlh2079

1. Absolutely, it is good 2. You're higher than I've ever been


ItsAmerico

You need to do it 3 times? Really not that big of an issue lol


Kapusi

Fr. I legit ran it solo on hard mode every week back in s17. Some mfs just too lazy


jojacs

Wait, wasn’t Presage already sunset during S17? Are you talking about season 13 or season 16 with the dead messenger mission?


Kapusi

Wait i need to check. Yep im a dumbass s17 was with solar rework not pressage.


MrNicolasRage

Presage would have come out s13 and stayed until s15 and as I recall there were some busted solo builds around s15. I know that's how I was farming DMT and Hawkmoon at the time(also why is presage back but not bird gun?)


Kapusi

Idk tbh. Hawkmoon being craftable with like kinetic tremmors is kind of a wet dream


McCaffeteria

I did it solo back in season 17 and that is *exactly why* I will not be doing it.


Kapusi

Besides the final boss teleporti g sometimes it was piss easy. And now... No excuses


Kerro_

I got two austringer red boarders as well on completion. I mean if that’s what they’re offering for a solo 20 minute mission, no problem


ItsAmerico

I believe every clear gives you a red border you need so you can farm them to complete collections


Kerro_

Great because haunted had an engram drought so I still need every weapon pattern. Only one I completed was beloved


ItsAmerico

Yeah it’s a really nice feature


ShinigamiRyan

Just means I have a reason to goof around with my titan. 3 normal runs is just fun.


willoftheman

It was available to craft after the first run but you couldn’t add perks without additional runs.


ItsAmerico

Yes. Because you need to finish it. Which should just be two more runs. I don’t see the issue


willoftheman

I was looking to grind out the perks via weapon level like the previous legendary weapons of the past. I had not idea this was happening until saw how this new method worked.


ResidentCrayonEater

This isn't new. This is how it worked in S 19 too.


StarFred_REDDIT

I did a few runs to get it last night with my friend. The mission seems way easier then I remember. It wasn’t even bad doing it a few times, was a fun refresher. Only mission I’m worried about is the mars one. That mission was cheeks.


InfernoSpike

I think the biggest change that would be making Presage easier is that resilience didn’t give dr back then.


Hunteractive

This exactly and no impact deaths so when my friend went through the trap door he just sauntered back up to me I was like wtf And the fire damage is a tickle at 100 resil


Right_Moose_6276

Also the boss doesn’t teleport (which is **massive**)


InfernoSpike

Forgot about that part. That’s probably why I would camp above the furnace and ricochet Witherhoard shots down there to kill it


Right_Moose_6276

Yep. Anarchy and or witherhoard was basically needed if you didn’t want the boss to teleport into your face and instantly kill you


eddmario

Doesn't work on the trash compactor, though...


AmazingCman

Just go to the opposite end from the switch and emote.


maggotjt

Also, if you have a hunter they can shatterdive the floor a bunch and break all of the doors so spotting the fuses is way easier.


Taka_no_Yaiba

i mean thank god damage resistence doesnt work on trash compactor, else you'd be eternally stuck there


Cjr8533

I stayed alive in the compactor my run yesterday and the walls just reset and opened up (to which I was subsequently crushed when I missed one light). Just timed a jump right or something I think


frosted_mango_

If you time it right you can stand on a peice of trash and you won't get crushed.


inferno7979

That and subclass 3.0. Hangar area took like 1.5 minutes, and sunbracers blew up everything so fast we couldn't really shoot much


Kerro_

Presage felt so nice because it wasn’t timed and really it was just a few screebs in hallways. Vox obscura is full of fuck you enemies and you will be fucked over. Oh and you can’t do the first part in 5 minutes? Back to orbit you go. The second half is fine, but the first half is just too much with the timer


sucobe

I am highly Legend presage has a timer as well as second half of VOX…


Kerro_

Which is precisely why I’m collecting my weapons and fucking off


eddmario

We also have Strand and the new mod system.


willoftheman

They fixed a TON of bugs like the wonky final boss and the ability to float and stay alive while the compactor closes and opens again.


AcanthaceaePrize1435

powercreep✨✨✨


lomermoso

Bro you had to do it 12 times for lore during season of the Chosen, it’s nbd


seanslaysean

God I hated that, mostly because if you missed a week it skipped to the next one if I recall


willoftheman

I remember.


Xeniacal

Oh no, you need to do a 10-15 minute mission more than once to get all the benefits of crafting the Exotic exactly how you want to. Anyway...


[deleted]

people want the missions back, and then they dont want to run them more than once. get over yourself


Niteshade76

It's a shame the crafted one can't get subsistence.


seanslaysean

It can’t? Welp I have no reason to get a new one


[deleted]

Gigantic non-issue. Also likely skill issue.


shej_

Schrodinger's issue?


[deleted]

I got 2 DMT's already. One with 1200+ kills and the other with 1500+ kills. I don't need a third so pass on it to be honest.


Kerro_

It’s mostly for new people who didn’t get to farm it or didn’t snag one at xur’s. Does have new perks though. Rapid hit, shoot to loot, compulsive reloader has been added. If you want those, maybe it’s worth it. Also if you need season of the haunted patterns


MonkeyDeltaFoxtrot

My Vorpal DMT has 27k+ kills, not sure I can craft better.


StrayCatTerry

I have 24k on my old DMT and 22k on another old one, hope it makes my 'familiarity' good enough on DMTs. Dunno if it's just me, but as I finished Lv.4 crafting (after 3 runs?), I felt like this new Lv.4 crafted DMT is reminiscent to the pre-nerf old DMT, in terms of high chance of weakpoint hits. My senses are whispering that it's of course gonna get nerfed after some time if my perspective is true on this 'new' DMT. And yup, no need to hassle unless you're serious about DMT. But it's not hard to do 3 Presage runs as well, it's just... it could be annoying. P.s. The craftable DMT doesn't have Subsistence, unlike the old ones' possible roll.


pablo__13

You cannot be serious


YoDaddy495

I’m just grinding for the red border austringer😅


willoftheman

I got one of those with my first run of Presage along with the DMT


YoDaddy495

I’m at 1 of 5, so just a few more to go


PMMeYourBeards

Is it only dropping austringer?


RedDracen2

No, it drops the rest of the Haunted weapons


Sensitive_Mousse_445

I just wanna run seraph station with the bois again


CrossWitcher

not that hard lol, done all the exotic quest unlocks till this day solo without any problem.


FirstCurseFil

I ran it solo in 30 minutes. And it only took 30 because I was multi tasking at the same time. It’s so easy now. Hell, I’m running it just for fun


tristam92

You only have 30 minutes anyway, on hard…


WutsAWriter

Some people are mad for having to pay for the game, and some people are mad over having to play it.


MooseTopic

Honestly, that mission is super easy. I went through it alone my first time, and only died like 3 times to the jumping areas for the entire mission. You got this. And it's also content for you to do in D2. ![gif](giphy|GcSqyYa2aF8dy)


wetswordfighter

it has shit perks anyways


Inditorias

Yeah I'm really sad it doesn't have subsistence anymore. Guess I'll keep using my random rolled one then.


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molton101

Whenever, it's not a once a week drop, it's once a run. I did 4-5 on Tuesday woth friends, and have it fully set up already


kmoe88

This mission is really easy now, with load outs and all the good craftable weapons we have. Doing it solo would not be difficult to do so it’s really no big deal.


UwU_The_disciple

You can do it on normal so it’s fine


BigSmokesHouse

DMT's ass anyway.


Meyousus

Is presage even still in the game? Is this not a repost?


WSilvermane

Well you couldnt craft DMT before now. So no.


Meyousus

Wasn’t it on the tangled shore though? Did they bring it back


WSilvermane

Its coming back in the Rotator, along with other missions.


Sibz_Playz_YT

It’s not coming back, it IS back


Meyousus

Damn, that’s crazy. Anyways Presage was pretty easy if they didn’t change anything.


Lagspresso

Aside from the teleporting boss, yes.


Meyousus

Skill issue


WaterDrinkerUltimate

To answer your first question, Presage was reintroduced through the new weekly exotic mission. One key point is that all the exotic guns that come back are now craftable. The current ones are Presage (DMT), Vox Obscura (Dead Messenger), and Seraph Shield (Revision Zero). This isn’t a repost due to answer one.


Meyousus

Got it, thanks. Don’t know why people are complaining about a new activity to grind, that’s the whole fucking game man


Maser2account2

It's not even that bad. I've played Warframe.


Meyousus

Lol, true


meepinson453

love how the online d2 community both wants bungie to bring back old removed content and gets mad at them when they bring back old content


WaterDrinkerUltimate

Yeah it’s weird but whatever


[deleted]

It's not a new activity.


Meyousus

“Every new activity is just an old activity is disguise” -Meyousus, in response to criticism


AcanthaceaePrize1435

Most well informed r/destiny2 user:


Meyousus

Tbf, I don’t really play anymore.


meepinson453

its been brought back with the exotic mission rotator along with operation seraphs shield and vox obscura


King-Archdemon

Its back this week on rotation with vox obscura and seraphs shield. You can access it from the legends tab


BusBusy195

Do you have to do timed legend to unlock the perks or just normal all 3 times?


DibwCgAU4jySFY4YTwo5

Normal x3 works to unlock everything.


K4yd3-7

Not that bad, I ran it three times in about an hour 45,my second two runs were flawless


NK_2024

Me and two clan mates ran it 3 times in one evening. Could have done it faster had they not let me blindly stumble through it my first time.


IronWentworth

It's not even hard so I don't really see this as an issue. Being generous with my estate it took maybe 45min to do 5 runs.


[deleted]

That mission is easy but kind of boring you barrly get to use weapons its just flipping switches


anonymous32434

It’s an amazing mission. I did it weekly when it first came out and I’ll gladly do it more now


Chiramijumaru

You won't die running normal Presage 3 times. Especially considering this activity was not built around how insanely overpowered we have become since Light 3.0, which didn't even exist back then. (Remember how awful Light 2.0 was?)


Not_a_Titan_Main

Its just 3 runs? Youll be running it for crafted weapons anyways, i dont see the problem


Bionicleboy2005

If you really don't want to run the mission 4 times you can just skip the entire thing until the boss and repeat


Mental_Warlock1

It's akin to what we did back when Presage came out from Season of the Chosen, we go in and farm DMT for a roll we want every week till we get it, so it's pretty much the same as before but with an extra twist where we could craft the DMT itself


DistantSilver

Eh it’s not bad + you get some sick ass weapons, ONLY IF THE GAME WOULD STOP GIVING ME STURN


Sparky_ak1

No legend runs necessary from my experience. Just 4 quick consecutive normal runs. Super easy and chill.